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(BBC-US)   Meet Tengai, the job interview robot who won't judge you. Or hire you, for that matter   (bbc.com) divider line
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2019-03-12 02:23:53 PM  
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I thought this was the robot for a second.
 
2019-03-12 02:29:52 PM  
I already have problems getting past HR drones who don't have the background to judge whether or not I'm a good scientist.  Now I have to convince a goddamn robot?

/although now that I think of it, the robot could probably do a better job
//or just tell me to pound sand more efficiently
 
2019-03-12 02:32:18 PM  

Bondith: I already have problems getting past HR drones who don't have the background to judge whether or not I'm a good scientist.  Now I have to convince a goddamn robot?

/although now that I think of it, the robot could probably do a better job
//or just tell me to pound sand more efficiently


Humans are biased, but at least they have different biases, so if you do 100 interviews, you will probably find one who doesn't reject you. If everybody uses perfectly unbiased robots to interview, then if one of them rejects you, you might as well lie down in the gutter and die, because you're unemployable.
 
2019-03-12 02:35:06 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Bondith: I already have problems getting past HR drones who don't have the background to judge whether or not I'm a good scientist.  Now I have to convince a goddamn robot?

/although now that I think of it, the robot could probably do a better job
//or just tell me to pound sand more efficiently

Humans are biased, but at least they have different biases, so if you do 100 interviews, you will probably find one who doesn't reject you. If everybody uses perfectly unbiased robots to interview, then if one of them rejects you, you might as well lie down in the gutter and die, because you're unemployable.


I can't get as far as the interview, and judging from the requirements in these job postings, I am unemployable.

/browses Craigslist for affordable gutters
 
2019-03-12 02:41:34 PM  
Sure.  Until they have layoffs.  Then Tengai will end up here....

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2019-03-12 02:44:52 PM  

Bondith: itcamefromschenectady: Bondith: I already have problems getting past HR drones who don't have the background to judge whether or not I'm a good scientist.  Now I have to convince a goddamn robot?

/although now that I think of it, the robot could probably do a better job
//or just tell me to pound sand more efficiently

Humans are biased, but at least they have different biases, so if you do 100 interviews, you will probably find one who doesn't reject you. If everybody uses perfectly unbiased robots to interview, then if one of them rejects you, you might as well lie down in the gutter and die, because you're unemployable.

I can't get as far as the interview, and judging from the requirements in these job postings, I am unemployable.

/browses Craigslist for affordable gutters


Sounds like you need another pass over your resume. Are you padding it by repeating yourself or adding things that are irrelevant, or blindingly obvious? If I see the words "Proficient with Microsoft Office" on a resume and it's not someone fresh out of college I immediately trash it, because they haven't done anything with their previous jobs.

What kind of scientist? Bench scientist or researcher? Were you part of any studies that got published?

If you're QC of some kind (pharma industry), what were some of your non routine tasks? Safety committee? Audit response team? Did you train people? Did you write/revise SOPs?
 
2019-03-12 02:51:11 PM  
So I can whip it out?
 
2019-03-12 02:58:55 PM  

Bondith: I can't get as far as the interview, and judging from the requirements in these job postings, I am unemployable.

/browses Craigslist for affordable gutters


I've had some interviews. But I've had three separate opportunities renege after I supposedly/almost had the job. One offered me a job on Thursday, we verbally agreed I would start Monday, and Friday I was told by the temp agency they're interviewing other people. Another interview seemed to go well, they were checking my references a week later, at the two week mark they're still deciding, and the next Monday they hire someone else. The latest one was because I have jury duty once a week and fark me if I do my civic duty. I think it's pretty clear that no matter how desperate someone is, they won't hire me because (a) I don't have a job, and (b) I'm not starving yet so I don't "need" a job. Possibly (c) I wore a tie, therefore I'm overqualified and won't stay in a low paying job.
 
2019-03-12 03:47:22 PM  
"Detecting elevated stress level, human, what is the cause of your anxiety? Are you not being truthful?"
'No, I'm pissed that no one in this entire goddamn company could be assed to even sit in on an interview for someone they might hire. Tells me a lot about you cock swallowers, actually. Yeah, I don't think I want to work here. So you can cram it where ever a robot crams things. Your access port, I assume. Suck it, I'm out.'
 
2019-03-12 03:56:48 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Bondith: I can't get as far as the interview, and judging from the requirements in these job postings, I am unemployable.

/browses Craigslist for affordable gutters

I've had some interviews. But I've had three separate opportunities renege after I supposedly/almost had the job. One offered me a job on Thursday, we verbally agreed I would start Monday, and Friday I was told by the temp agency they're interviewing other people. Another interview seemed to go well, they were checking my references a week later, at the two week mark they're still deciding, and the next Monday they hire someone else. The latest one was because I have jury duty once a week and fark me if I do my civic duty. I think it's pretty clear that no matter how desperate someone is, they won't hire me because (a) I don't have a job, and (b) I'm not starving yet so I don't "need" a job. Possibly (c) I wore a tie, therefore I'm overqualified and won't stay in a low paying job.


Don't wear a suit and tie when dealing with tech bros, they hate formal attire. I wore a suit when applying to a drone company and they flat out asked why I wore a suit. Apparently 'because this is an interview' wasn't a good answer.

Polo and slacks is formal attire in tech fields.
 
2019-03-12 03:59:07 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Bondith: I already have problems getting past HR drones who don't have the background to judge whether or not I'm a good scientist.  Now I have to convince a goddamn robot?

/although now that I think of it, the robot could probably do a better job
//or just tell me to pound sand more efficiently

Humans are biased, but at least they have different biases, so if you do 100 interviews, you will probably find one who doesn't reject you. If everybody uses perfectly unbiased robots to interview, then if one of them rejects you, you might as well lie down in the gutter and die, because you're unemployable.


Back when I was actually looking for a job last time, having been laid off a couple months before 9/11/2001, I built a small database using (IIRC) Lotus Approach.  I had gotten SmartSuite on my home computer courtesy of a former employer.

I figured the best way to handle it was to automate the process as much as possible.  So I spent a day or two figuring out what I needed and setting it up, and then all I would have to do is get the Sunday papers and add jobs that looked interesting, then go on the job websites like monster.com and add those jobs into my little database.  Then I could print out customer cover letters, the appropriate resume, and labels pretty much automatically.  Then I'd stuff the envelopes and mail them.  I'd essentially be done job searching by Monday afternoon, unless there was an interview or something later in the week.

Back then you had to certify your unemployment via phone and that you were searching for a job, but every few weeks you actually had to show up at the local department of labor.  So I'd show up with my nifty formatted report on my job search activity.   All laid out nice with company names along with dates for resumes, phone contacts, interviews, etc.  and with who.

It's sad to say but sometimes you've got to pull a Mike Damone.

Mike Damone: I mean don't just walk in. You move across the room. And you don't talk to her. You use your face. You use your body. You use everything. That's what I do. I mean I just send out this vibe and I have personally found that women do respond. I mean, something happens.

Mark Ratner: Well, naturally something happens. I mean, you put the vibe out to 30 million chicks, something is gonna happen.

Mike Damone: That's the idea, Rat. That's the attitude.

Mark Ratner: The attitude?

Mike Damone: Yeah! The attitude dictates that you don't care whether she comes, stays, lays, or prays. I mean whatever happens, your toes are still tappin'. Now when you got that, then you have the attitude.
 
2019-03-12 04:22:12 PM  
I've met with ten guys.  Didn't get the job.
 
2019-03-12 04:38:17 PM  
ok we really gotta get back to the sue of words and maybe just write out whole complete thoughts that ASSUME NOTHING.

FTA:
Meet Tengai, the job interview robot who won't judge you
What we mean that you just have to assume because we w ere too lazy to spell it all out.Meet Tengai, the job interview robot that is not programed with any algorithms for judgement of human aspects such as skin color, sex, sexual orientation, religious/spiritual beliefs, or physical beauty judgment data.

It is however an interview bot so the fook its programing is design to JUDGE if you are qualified for the job or not. We just didn't include any specific data for the criteria to judge and weight the applicant based on those other factors that are expected to be irrelevant to obtaining the highest quality talent, that we humans get kinda hung up on pointlessly.

But seriously make no mistakes, interview bot judges the fook out you, just not taking those particular things into account is all.

cause you know, interview, kinda the whole point is to get some in person first hand JUDGEMENTS about you.


won't judge aspects of what you are
 
2019-03-12 07:15:46 PM  

dittybopper: Back then you had to certify your unemployment via phone and that you were searching for a job, but every few weeks you actually had to show up at the local department of labor.  So I'd show up with my nifty formatted report on my job search activity.   All laid out nice with company names along with dates for resumes, phone contacts, interviews, etc.  and with who.


Oh, the way I got in gear recently was I looked up the requirements to get unemployment in NY, even though I've never actually tried (and am not eligible). You have to, I believe, do something work related, like apply for a job or interview or go to a job fair three times a week on three separate days. It sounds like a low bar, but it's a valuable reference point. After a couple of weeks of applying for two jobs every day, I started getting interviews. I've slacked off in the last couple weeks, but people are still talking to me, and at this point I may just ask if I can be let off of jury duty for now as a hardship, because I would be working tomorrow if it wasn't for that.
 
2019-03-12 07:22:49 PM  

GodComplex: Don't wear a suit and tie when dealing with tech bros, they hate formal attire.


The last time I applied to a tech company, it wasn't in California, they were kind of wannabe tech bros, and I didn't wear a suit jacket because it was suggested not to. They rejected me for unspecified lack of cultural fit. I assume that means they guessed I was over 40.
 
2019-03-13 05:02:52 AM  
I think I'd have trouble taking a robot interviewer seriously.
 
2019-03-13 06:47:06 AM  
All I want are two things: Stop asking stupid interview questions like "What do you want from this company?" (Answer: Your money.) and explicit rejections.
 
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