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2019-03-12 02:33:35 PM  
Yeah but, Nancy belittled Trump, and called him "unworthy of impeachment" in so many words.   He HAS to be pissed about it.
 
2019-03-12 04:21:19 PM  
Just pack your toothbrush, Donny
 
2019-03-12 04:53:03 PM  
"We're not ready," said David Bossie, a pugnacious Republican operative who served as Trump's deputy campaign manager and has been counseling both the White House and congressional Republicans.

I'm surprised he didn't say, "Wait a cotton-picking minute!"  I guess none of the reporters on this piece are African American.
 
2019-03-12 04:59:38 PM  

raerae1980: Yeah but, Nancy belittled Trump, and called him "unworthy of impeachment" in so many words.   He HAS to be pissed about it.


Imagine those tiny little hands tapping a smartphone furiously.
 
2019-03-12 04:59:39 PM  
Just because she said they're not going to impeach him doesn't mean they're not going to impeach him.
 
2019-03-12 05:01:03 PM  
 
2019-03-12 05:02:00 PM  
Maybe she is just stalling until it's too late for Pence to campaign.
 
2019-03-12 05:03:14 PM  
Trump is so stupid and incompetent the dems are starting to like having an easy target.
 
2019-03-12 05:03:56 PM  
I don't believe the White House is prepared for the sun to set in the west tonight and rise in the east tomorrow morning.
 
2019-03-12 05:03:57 PM  
Nobody expects... presidential impeachment! Our chief weapon is Mueller! Mueller and Nancy Pelosi. Uh, our two chief weapons are Mueller and Pelosi,,,  and a president that can't stop breaking the law.
I'll come in again
 
2019-03-12 05:04:41 PM  

raerae1980: Yeah but, Nancy belittled Trump, and called him "unworthy of impeachment" in so many words.   He HAS to be pissed about it.


Well, there is that whole children in concentration camps thing, a plan under way to invade Venezuela and plunder its oil, yadda yadda, but whatevs. Nancy's making money hand over fist with Trump, and that's her only concern. The "YAS KWEEN" .gifs she'll get on Twitter for doing nothing is just a bonus.
 
2019-03-12 05:05:14 PM  
This has always been the plan. How incompetent do you have to be to be unprepared?

Oh, right...
 
2019-03-12 05:09:04 PM  
Tell me one thing that the White House IS prepared for. I dare you!
*taps foot*

Well, I'm waiting...
*crickets*
 
2019-03-12 05:10:21 PM  
Trump doesn't have to be prepared because as it is now, the Senate Republicans won't vote to impeach no matter what.
 
2019-03-12 05:11:00 PM  
The sad thing is, the White House minions being farking idiots isn't considered a dealbreaker. Or even unusual at this point.

Republican voters are the stupidest motherfarkers on earth.
 
2019-03-12 05:11:53 PM  
I think Pelosi is being realistic, and saying that they're not going to impeach without a case that's going to get the 20-ish GOP votes needed for conviction in the Senate (an acquittal in the Senate would be played as a yuge victory for Dotard J). Because nothing short of murdering Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate is likely to get enough Republican votes for conviction.
 
2019-03-12 05:12:06 PM  
The last four words apply to every political crisis.
 
2019-03-12 05:14:14 PM  
An Empty Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste
Trump has no core beliefs, no policy, only a random series of ideas with no other purpose than what is in Trump's personal best interest. This is what happens when a president gets his economic, geopolitical and military strategy from Sean Hannity and Fox & Friends.
Trump doesn't read books or listen to people who do. Trump doesn't know what he doesn't know, but he does know that he loves a full bucket of warm KFC!
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2019-03-12 05:15:20 PM  
I find it interesting that the Republicans think the House Democrats will suffer from backlash because of overreach on account of public response to Clinton's impeachment.  It's overreach to impeach a president over a consensual relationship (I know, perjury).  It's not overreach to investigate real and verifiable criminal activity.

/ False equivalence.
// From Republicans???
 
2019-03-12 05:20:03 PM  

Percise1: Tell me one thing that the White House IS prepared for. I dare you!
*taps foot*

Well, I'm waiting...
*crickets*


The things they are prepared for aren't necessarily the things we want them to be prepared for, like separating immigrant children from their families and imprisoning them.  :-(
 
2019-03-12 05:20:49 PM  

Percise1: Tell me one thing that the White House IS prepared for. I dare you!
*taps foot*

Well, I'm waiting...
*crickets*


A meal.
 
2019-03-12 05:24:26 PM  
If that's the goal she's smart enough not to broadcast it until it's time. And that time is soon. paleeze
 
2019-03-12 05:28:17 PM  

azn_firebug: Percise1: Tell me one thing that the White House IS prepared for. I dare you!
*taps foot*

Well, I'm waiting...
*crickets*

The things they are prepared for aren't necessarily the things we want them to be prepared for, like separating immigrant children from their families and imprisoning them.  :-(


They didn't even do that well...

EyeballKid: A meal.


I thought about adding "Serving McD hamberders doesn't count", but "laying in bed eating McD hamberders and watching F&F" would be technically correct. Too bad that's a pure net negative until the coronary or stroke.
 
2019-03-12 05:29:05 PM  

Learned Hand Job: I think Pelosi is being realistic, and saying that they're not going to impeach without a case that's going to get the 20-ish GOP votes needed for conviction in the Senate (an acquittal in the Senate would be played as a yuge victory for Dotard J). Because nothing short of murdering Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate is likely to get enough Republican votes for conviction.


True. Sad, and frustrating, but true.
 
2019-03-12 05:29:16 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Just because she said they're not going to impeach him doesn't mean they're not going to impeach him.


She also said George W. Bush's impeachment was "off the table" after becoming Speaker in 2007, and surprise surprise, no impeachment occurred.

Bear in mind at this time in George W. Bush's administration, America was about to invade Iraq.
 
2019-03-12 05:34:58 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Crewmannumber6: Just because she said they're not going to impeach him doesn't mean they're not going to impeach him.

She also said George W. Bush's impeachment was "off the table" after becoming Speaker in 2007, and surprise surprise, no impeachment occurred.

Bear in mind at this time in George W. Bush's administration, America was about to invade Iraq.

Dick Cheney was about to rape the world, us included, for trillions.
 
2019-03-12 05:35:21 PM  
Nancy is definitely playing some kind of game here.  She knows publicly declaring this stance is going to lose her some political capital with the base, but she might have all that locked up anyway.  After all, she can take the heat for that kind of statement and keep it off other democrats, meanwhile it shifts focus of the party and junior members to other issues.

She wants to see his ass impeached as much as anyone, but she also knows that even with damning evidence the Senate will never convict him, there's nothing he could do that would cause them to turn, so it's kind of a waste.

What I don't get is, wouldn't it be a good idea to force the hand of the Senate to cast their votes? Put them on record as supporting The Orange Asswipe?

Maybe she's just biding her time until the Muller report comes out and she has a better idea of the landscape before making a decision.

Like I said, this seems an odd move, but the one thing it tells me is that she's likely up to something, she wouldn't make a statement like that off the cuff, it's far too calculated.
 
2019-03-12 05:37:07 PM  

BizarreMan: I don't believe the White House is prepared for the sun to set in the west tonight and rise in the east tomorrow morning.


They're going to up the Daylight Saving so that there's no sunset.
 
2019-03-12 05:39:12 PM  
Doesn't matter what level of preparedness the White House has.

Turtle will make sure it fails in the Senate for the rest of this year, baring something that blows apart the Republican party (which, unless the rub and tug madam does that, I don't see happening).  So we have until some time next year before impeachment proceedings will start in the house.  For the rest of this year we'll be seeing information and "findings" pile up.  I figure right about July of next year we'll start to see more and more committees reviewing possible impeachment bills.  Then around September we'll go to daily hearings on those bills.  Some time around the end of October there will be 3 weeks of daily debate on the house floor of the merits of each of these very comprehensive sets of charges.

And on November 4th it will be all shelved because federal prosecutors under the new president will handle the matter.  That will include arresting about half of the Republicans in the Senate, including all of the leadership.

Impeachment has always been a political act.  The Republican party has always failed in their impeachment attempts, essentially strengthening their opponent.  The Democratic party has used impeachment much more successfully, as they've gotten rid of the target president in some way before the actual use of the mechanism has been engaged.  This time will be no different, though I believe we're going to see an election defeat not a resignation this time around.
 
2019-03-12 05:39:17 PM  

Learned Hand Job: I think Pelosi is being realistic, and saying that they're not going to impeach without a case that's going to get the 20-ish GOP votes needed for conviction in the Senate (an acquittal in the Senate would be played as a yuge victory for Dotard J). Because nothing short of murdering Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate is likely to get enough Republican votes for conviction.


Killing Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate may sway enough Democrats to support Trump for a third term.
 
2019-03-12 05:40:47 PM  

EyeballKid: Percise1: Tell me one thing that the White House IS prepared for. I dare you!
*taps foot*

Well, I'm waiting...
*crickets*

A meal.


If you call ordering 140 Big Macs "prepared"...
 
2019-03-12 05:42:02 PM  
"We're not ready" or "We weren't ready" would make some good Trump 2020 slogans. Maybe "we're still not ready" would be the best.
 
2019-03-12 05:42:23 PM  
I'm no Pelosi fan (*understated AF*) but ... given the current Senate, this is the way to go.  Failing to convict would be a political disaster, and impeaching him a second time, oy, what a great way to empower his "I told you - they're out to get me!" garbage that riles up his base.
 
2019-03-12 05:44:46 PM  
Even assuming they have a source of reasonable doubt on collusion (not at all likely, but not impossible), they're still farked.

-His list of financial crimes like tax evasion and money laundering is a mile long and goes back to about 3 seconds after he became old enough to legally sign things.
-His list of grifts, scams, and simply not paying contractors is similarly a mile long.
-He's actively profiting off the presidency including taking straight-up bribes.
-His original chief of staff flat-out stated the goal was to "deconstruct the government". One only has to look at the state of the State Dept, EPA, etc, to see that this was NOT just rhetoric.
-He publicly threatens both witnesses and media, and does it on Twitter so it's there forever for any jury to review.
-He instructs his party to ignore the constitution, again, publicly.
-He uses emergency powers to deal with things that are not only blatant lies, but if even if they were true, have been going for years and are therefore not an emergent situation that Congress didn't have time to pass legislation for. (i.e. the whole reason emergency powers are allowed to exist)

I'm going to stop there, but you could easily add another 10 items to that list. Every one of those, BY ITSELF, is both obviously true and impeachable. Almost all of them are crimes, including a pile of felonies. He makes Nixon look like a pillar of virtue.

They can't be "ready" to defend him against the indefensible. The only thing any of them can do is be ready to take a new job (if they weren't directly involved in any of the above), or be ready to spend quite some time in prison (if they were).
 
2019-03-12 05:45:12 PM  
The only evidence Pelosi really has is Cohen's testimony.  It was damning but not strong enough for impeachment.  She's gathering information on 80 of Trump's cronies.
 
2019-03-12 05:46:09 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Crewmannumber6: Just because she said they're not going to impeach him doesn't mean they're not going to impeach him.

She also said George W. Bush's impeachment was "off the table" after becoming Speaker in 2007, and surprise surprise, no impeachment occurred.

Bear in mind at this time in George W. Bush's administration, America was about to invade Iraq.


True, but IMHO w/ neoliberalism on the decline now, she can't afford to run that sort of "derp we need to heal the nation" gambit in 2019.
 
2019-03-12 05:51:18 PM  

trerro: Even assuming they have a source of reasonable doubt on collusion (not at all likely, but not impossible), they're still farked.

-His list of financial crimes like tax evasion and money laundering is a mile long and goes back to about 3 seconds after he became old enough to legally sign things.
-His list of grifts, scams, and simply not paying contractors is similarly a mile long.
-He's actively profiting off the presidency including taking straight-up bribes.
-His original chief of staff flat-out stated the goal was to "deconstruct the government". One only has to look at the state of the State Dept, EPA, etc, to see that this was NOT just rhetoric.
-He publicly threatens both witnesses and media, and does it on Twitter so it's there forever for any jury to review.
-He instructs his party to ignore the constitution, again, publicly.
-He uses emergency powers to deal with things that are not only blatant lies, but if even if they were true, have been going for years and are therefore not an emergent situation that Congress didn't have time to pass legislation for. (i.e. the whole reason emergency powers are allowed to exist)

I'm going to stop there, but you could easily add another 10 items to that list. Every one of those, BY ITSELF, is both obviously true and impeachable. Almost all of them are crimes, including a pile of felonies. He makes Nixon look like a pillar of virtue.

They can't be "ready" to defend him against the indefensible. The only thing any of them can do is be ready to take a new job (if they weren't directly involved in any of the above), or be ready to spend quite some time in prison (if they were).


The GOP already defended against all these things... they're fake news, it's ok because everyone does it and they just don't care because they're stiggin it to the libs. Sure, there's always the judicial branch but they've been stacking that with derper judges. So our hope really is that on occasion, even derper judges rise above their derp to make good rulings because they do care about precedent and rule of law. But the odds on that aren't that great. Hopefully, since he's committed crimes at both federal and state level, there's gonna be several chances to get a good judge in place for at least some of these accusations. So that considerably improves the odds. But they're still not super great.
 
2019-03-12 06:02:15 PM  
She's said repeatedly that impeachment isn't gonna happen.  You guys don't need to guess at what long con game she's playing.  Just take her at her word.

She's too busy killing "The Green Dream or whatever they call it" to fulfill either her constitutional responsibility or the mandate given to her by the voters.

So go back to making memes of her sassily giving trump a standing ovation.  The children in cages appreciate your brave equivocating.
 
2019-03-12 06:02:51 PM  

HerptheDerp: Nancy is definitely playing some kind of game here.  She knows publicly declaring this stance is going to lose her some political capital with the base, but she might have all that locked up anyway.  After all, she can take the heat for that kind of statement and keep it off other democrats, meanwhile it shifts focus of the party and junior members to other issues.

She wants to see his ass impeached as much as anyone, but she also knows that even with damning evidence the Senate will never convict him, there's nothing he could do that would cause them to turn, so it's kind of a waste.

What I don't get is, wouldn't it be a good idea to force the hand of the Senate to cast their votes? Put them on record as supporting The Orange Asswipe?

Maybe she's just biding her time until the Muller report comes out and she has a better idea of the landscape before making a decision.

Like I said, this seems an odd move, but the one thing it tells me is that she's likely up to something, she wouldn't make a statement like that off the cuff, it's far too calculated.


Before Mueller is finished, impeachment would be dumb. Republicans would have the justification to vote against removal on the basis that it shouldn't be voted on until the investigation is complete. If Mueller's report comes out and it is bad for Trump, then you push it through and force the Senate GOP to side with Trump without the easy cop put.

You also don't want to say that you are planning to impeach anyway as that would just look petty and reduce the impact of the report since it is apparently meaningless to the decision. Much better to seem to have no plans to impeach and then coming out and saying "this is so damning that we must impeach Trump right now".

That may not be Pelosi's plan, but that seems like the way to play it.
 
2019-03-12 06:08:42 PM  

raerae1980: Yeah but, Nancy belittled Trump, and called him "unworthy of impeachment" in so many words.   He HAS to be pissed about it.


Always such an awesome rhetorical trap. "I am TOO worthy of impeachment!"

Befuddled: Trump doesn't have to be prepared because as it is now, the Senate Republicans won't vote to impeach no matter what.


Y'all don't need the Senate to impeach, just to convict. That's one of the reasons I'm personally ambivalent about impeachment; can you imagine what a jackass this guy will be if he gets impeached and weasels out of it? Good lord, we'll never hear the end of it.
 
2019-03-12 06:14:37 PM  
It says they aren't ready for investigations. Which one is still happening and others are almost ready to begin.

Those are what could be put impeachment on the table.
 
2019-03-12 06:15:51 PM  
I had a wee peak at Nancy's  playbook.

Things to do: impeach Trump. Impeach Pence. Impeach your way down the Line of Succession, stopping where? Just before you impeach Nancy, that's where, fool!

She's not waiting for the White House to get its affairs and its lies in order. She's waiting for the signal that Muehler is ready to impeach the whole Cabinet and then some.
 
2019-03-12 06:16:12 PM  

Muta: The only evidence Pelosi really has is Cohen's testimony.  It was damning but not strong enough for impeachment.  She's gathering information on 80 of Trump's cronies.


There is plenty of evidence.  And if you ignore everything he said and just look into the leads he gave, There is a shiatpile of paperwork documenting many blatant crimes.  You need not use Cohen's testimony at all, and it is not "the only evidence" by a mile.
 
2019-03-12 06:20:45 PM  
The line of succession.

Look at it.

LOOK AT IT, DAMN YOU!

There, that's better:

No.Office[2]IncumbentParty
1
Vice PresidentMike PenceRepublican
2
Speaker of the House of RepresentativesNancy PelosiDemocratic
3
President pro tempore of the SenateChuck GrassleyRepublican
4
Secretary of StateMike PompeoRepublican
5
Secretary of the TreasurySteven MnuchinRepublican
6[A]
Secretary of DefensePatrick M. ShanahanRepublican
7
Attorney GeneralWilliam BarrRepublican
8[A]
Secretary of the InteriorDavid BernhardtRepublican
9
Secretary of AgricultureSonny PerdueRepublican
10
Secretary of CommerceWilbur RossRepublican
11
Secretary of LaborAlexander AcostaRepublican
12
Secretary of Health and Human Services[C]Alex AzarRepublican
13
Secretary of Housing and Urban DevelopmentBen CarsonRepublican
-[D]
Secretary of TransportationElaine ChaoRepublican
14
Secretary of EnergyRick PerryRepublican
15
Secretary of EducationBetsy DeVosRepublican
16
Secretary of Veterans AffairsRobert WilkieRepublican
17
Secretary of Homeland SecurityKirstjen NielsenIndependent


You really only need to look at the first two names. Once she gets her hands on the Oval Office Coke delivery button, she ain't going any where. But she might want to fire a few people, say, down the list as far as Ben Carson and Elaine Chao.

Can you say Vice-President Carson? Can you say Vice-President Chao? Well, if not, then she'll keep those two.
 
2019-03-12 06:20:53 PM  
Indictments. Ready for those?
 
2019-03-12 06:22:53 PM  
She could also keep Wilbur Ross. He's the type of guy that all Presidents appoint: somebody from Goldmann Sachs to keep an eye on the Government.

Steve Bannon was a middle manager at Goldman Sachs. The real Goldman Sachs rep had a clue how business works.
 
2019-03-12 06:24:16 PM  

mdarius: Indictments. Ready for those?


Indictments are like Massage Parlour coupons. I don't know how they work but I am for as many as you can get.
 
2019-03-12 06:29:38 PM  

Percise1: Tell me one thing that the White House IS prepared for. I dare you!
*taps foot*

Well, I'm waiting...
*crickets*


Lots and lots of empty cages eagerly awaiting to be filled.
 
2019-03-12 06:32:31 PM  

brantgoose: The line of succession.

Look at it.

LOOK AT IT, DAMN YOU!

There, that's better:

No.Office[2]IncumbentParty
1
Vice PresidentMike PenceRepublican
2
Speaker of the House of RepresentativesNancy PelosiDemocratic
3
President pro tempore of the SenateChuck GrassleyRepublican
4
Secretary of StateMike PompeoRepublican
5
Secretary of the TreasurySteven MnuchinRepublican
6[A]
Secretary of DefensePatrick M. ShanahanRepublican
7
Attorney GeneralWilliam BarrRepublican
8[A]
Secretary of the InteriorDavid BernhardtRepublican
9
Secretary of AgricultureSonny PerdueRepublican
10
Secretary of CommerceWilbur RossRepublican
11
Secretary of LaborAlexander AcostaRepublican
12
Secretary of Health and Human Services[C]Alex AzarRepublican
13
Secretary of Housing and Urban DevelopmentBen CarsonRepublican
-[D]
Secretary of TransportationElaine ChaoRepublican
14
Secretary of EnergyRick PerryRepublican
15
Secretary of EducationBetsy DeVosRepublican
16
Secretary of Veterans AffairsRobert WilkieRepublican
17
Secretary of Homeland SecurityKirstjen NielsenIndependent


You really only need to look at the first two names. Once she gets her hands on the Oval Office Coke delivery button, she ain't going any where. But she might want to fire a few people, say, down the list as far as Ben Carson and Elaine Chao.

Can you say Vice-President Carson? Can you say Vice-President Chao? Well, if not, then she'll keep those two.



Chao is not a natural born citizen. She can't be VP.


Not our worst line of succession. With Nancy on it, it's way better than what we had  on 9/11:
Dick Cheney (murders homeless people for spare organs to extend his life)
Dennis Hastert (child molester)
Strom Thurmond (Confederate zombie and a rapist)
 
2019-03-12 06:36:55 PM  

HerptheDerp: Nancy is definitely playing some kind of game here.  She knows publicly declaring this stance is going to lose her some political capital with the base, but she might have all that locked up anyway.  After all, she can take the heat for that kind of statement and keep it off other democrats, meanwhile it shifts focus of the party and junior members to other issues.

She wants to see his ass impeached as much as anyone, but she also knows that even with damning evidence the Senate will never convict him, there's nothing he could do that would cause them to turn, so it's kind of a waste.

What I don't get is, wouldn't it be a good idea to force the hand of the Senate to cast their votes? Put them on record as supporting The Orange Asswipe?

Maybe she's just biding her time until the Muller report comes out and she has a better idea of the landscape before making a decision.

Like I said, this seems an odd move, but the one thing it tells me is that she's likely up to something, she wouldn't make a statement like that off the cuff, it's far too calculated.


They just told her, without prompting, "we couldn't defend against impeachment charges right now". I mean, that was kind of known, but it's usually a good idea not to tell opposing counsel "thank God you're not prosecuting us, we couldn't be ready for trial anyway."
 
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