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(NBC New York)   Pro-tip for panhandlers: Don't carry your iPhone X in your $500 purse, just in case the cops stop you while you're begging for diaper money   (nbcnewyork.com) divider line
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2019-03-12 08:59:04 AM  
Considering the fact that we have Joel Osteen panhandling for jets and mansions, subs, I don't think we have the right to call anybody a "fake panhandler" regardless of what crappy apple product they roll with.
 
2019-03-12 09:03:10 AM  
I thought this was the norm for today's society.  Iphones and expensive personal accessories are more important than the kid's needs.
 
2019-03-12 09:21:53 AM  

pueblonative: Considering the fact that we have Joel Osteen panhandling for jets and mansions, subs, I don't think we have the right to call anybody a "fake panhandler" regardless of what crappy apple product they roll with.


I was just wondering the difference between a "fake panhandler" and a "real panhandler".
 
2019-03-12 09:23:05 AM  
I've been suspicious about the roadside panhandlers around here for a while. There's always one per intersection, no more, and they change out periodically, with a different person every few days.

That's just way to regular too be spontaneous. It seems very organized, which suggests an organizer.
 
2019-03-12 09:36:35 AM  
I saw a young woman on the subway last summer speaking very loudly about how she was poor, broke and needed money. I noticed she was wearing newish nice clothing, was very well-kempt and was obviously able-bodied. The whole thing was just embarrassing.
 
2019-03-12 09:55:13 AM  
There is or was a panhandler over at exit 63 of the Long Island expressway. They sit quietly on a white contractor's bucket with a cardboard sign asking for hand outs at the red light.

At the end of the day, they walk across the street into the Radisson hotel parking lot and get into their (what appears to be new) Mercedes Benz and drive off.

Still, better then finding a photo of a sick kid and then pretending it's their kid putting up collection jars, asking for cancer donations, I suppose.
 
2019-03-12 09:55:32 AM  

MrBallou: I've been suspicious about the roadside panhandlers around here for a while. There's always one per intersection, no more, and they change out periodically, with a different person every few days.

That's just way to regular too be spontaneous. It seems very organized, which suggests an organizer.


You just described a Union.
 
2019-03-12 09:56:41 AM  

pueblonative: Considering the fact that we have Joel Osteen panhandling for jets and mansions, subs, I don't think we have the right to call anybody a "fake panhandler" regardless of what crappy apple product they roll with.


I listen to Joel's sirius station almost every day.  I have heard hundreds of sermons.  I have never once heard him ask for money.  Not once.

Just sayin.
 
2019-03-12 09:56:52 AM  
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2019-03-12 09:56:53 AM  

Merltech: I thought this was the norm for today's society.  Iphones and expensive personal accessories are more important than the kid's needs.


Expensive electronics are a necessity for raising kids. How else are you going to get them to shut the fark up since you're not allowed to smack 'em around anymore?
 
2019-03-12 09:56:54 AM  

FlashHarry: I saw a young woman on the subway last summer speaking very loudly about how she was poor, broke and needed money. I noticed she was wearing newish nice clothing, was very well-kempt and was obviously able-bodied. The whole thing was just embarrassing.


I can't wait for the optical equivalent of noise cancelling headphones.
 
2019-03-12 09:57:17 AM  
That's not real or fake, that's just panhandling.
 
2019-03-12 09:57:35 AM  
Article buries the lede:

"Their investigation led her to admit that she and several other women got dropped off to panhandle throughout NJ," the Facebook post read.

We just watched one human trafficking ring get taken down in Florida, and another one being dismantled right here in Washington - we have a modern-day Fagin here, apparently recruiting & exploiting women to panhandle throughout New Jersey, and the cops basically said "well, here's your citation, head back to your Fagin and let him deal with your underperforming ass?"
 
2019-03-12 09:59:07 AM  

big pig peaches: Merltech: I thought this was the norm for today's society.  Iphones and expensive personal accessories are more important than the kid's needs.

Expensive electronics are a necessity for raising kids. How else are you going to get them to shut the fark up since you're not allowed to smack 'em around anymore?


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2019-03-12 09:59:56 AM  
You know, if we want equal justice for the rich and poor - and we do a lot of screaming that this is exactly what we want - then there should be no more or less attention paid to a wealthy beggar than there is to a poor one.

Arrest them, run them off, or leave them alone, but do it equally.

Personally, I have a problem with wealthy beggars, but it is fairly hypocritical to want pan handlers treated differently based on personal assets.

Wasn't this lady just doing a live action GoFundMe?
 
2019-03-12 10:00:03 AM  
Dumbass.  Everyone is panhandling on Twitter and GoFundMe now.
 
2019-03-12 10:01:36 AM  
Panhandling has really lost itself. I mean, where's the pan? Are you holding a handle? Personally I'd like to see a movement back towards grassroots, holistic, artisan panhandling. When's the last time my windshield got squeegeed? It's been forever I tells yah. These modern beggers with their money and homes don't know how to work for their beggings.

Yep, I tell you what, I just want to see more tried and true crazy homeless people in the world so destitute that they have to beg for "real" and not these beggers-by-day we have now. That will surely improve society
 
2019-03-12 10:03:16 AM  

big pig peaches: Merltech: I thought this was the norm for today's society.  Iphones and expensive personal accessories are more important than the kid's needs.

Expensive electronics are a necessity for raising kids. How else are you going to get them to shut the fark up since you're not allowed to smack 'em around anymore?


Got a point there....
 
2019-03-12 10:04:53 AM  
Well obviously she must need it. People don't debase their dignity to beg for money otherwise.
 
2019-03-12 10:06:39 AM  
Gypsies
 
2019-03-12 10:07:42 AM  
I like what Nashville does: Prints a weekly/monthly paper.  Sells it to pan handlers for a quarter each (subsidized).  They sell it for a dollar each.  They wear big, clear, signs that identify that they are playing by the rules.  Those folks get money.  The folks just sitting around asking don't.
 
2019-03-12 10:09:22 AM  
I just hope this doesn't result in the police harassing those in actual need. Here we have the police needlessly antagonizing a double amputee Vietnam vet.

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2019-03-12 10:09:46 AM  
FTA:

"Their investigation led her to admit that she and several other women got dropped off to panhandle throughout NJ,"

Ah so she was pimped out to panhandle. Therefore, the police should be going after the ringleader, right?
Story doesn't mention any of that.

Seems like the cops are using a band-aid when they should be using a tourniquet.
 
2019-03-12 10:09:59 AM  
Well, you cannot easily buy diapers with an iPhone, jewelry or an $500 purse.
 
2019-03-12 10:11:24 AM  
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2019-03-12 10:11:27 AM  

MrBallou: I've been suspicious about the roadside panhandlers around here for a while. There's always one per intersection, no more, and they change out periodically, with a different person every few days.

That's just way to regular too be spontaneous. It seems very organized, which suggests an organizer.


I agree. I see it all the time in my area.  On the intersection entering the our local mall, on/off ramps, and major intersections.  I've actually seen them switch out, and ride a mile down the street on their bike to the next intersection.  It is organized, I'm almost certain.  They most likely employ the addicted and elderly to carry out the begging, from my experience.  While I think the people doing the begging are probably homeless, the is a hierarchy at work.  It's kind of interesting, I wish there was a documentary or investigation about it.
 
2019-03-12 10:12:14 AM  
"Union police posted a picture of the woman on their Facebook page Monday, saying she was seen walking in and out of traffic at the exit to Route 78, carrying a sign with a picture of a baby and asking for money. "

So....then NBC posts a picture with her face cut out and no link to the Facebook post. Thanks NBC, for warning the public about this dangerous headless panhandler! She may actually be gathering money to buy a horse and terrify the locals!
 
2019-03-12 10:14:36 AM  

pup.socket: Well, you cannot easily buy diapers with an iPhone, jewelry or an $500 purse.


Not according to the new LetGo commercials, Pianos; Lawnmowers...can be traded for cash!
 
2019-03-12 10:19:08 AM  

steklo: FTA:

"Their investigation led her to admit that she and several other women got dropped off to panhandle throughout NJ,"

Ah so she was pimped out to panhandle. Therefore, the police should be going after the ringleader, right?
Story doesn't mention any of that.

Seems like the cops are using a band-aid when they should be using a tourniquet.


I noted that too. How is this not a trafficking concern?
 
2019-03-12 10:20:06 AM  

big pig peaches: Merltech: I thought this was the norm for today's society.  Iphones and expensive personal accessories are more important than the kid's needs.

Expensive electronics are a necessity for raising kids. How else are you going to get them to shut the fark up since you're not allowed to smack 'em around anymore?


I thought drugs was the tool of savvy parents.
 
2019-03-12 10:23:19 AM  

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That's what happens when literally nobody wants a particular chunk of land.  They leg wrestled and Oklahoma lost, fair and square.
 
2019-03-12 10:24:02 AM  

Murflette: I noted that too. How is this not a trafficking concern?


More than likely this is a "gypsy" gang. I saw "Romanian" in the headline and the first thing I thought of was Gypsy's pulling this crap.

Trafficking won't come into play here unless the Gypsy ring leader managed to get some Europeans to come over against their will to do the panhandling and whatever else is up their sleeve.

These Gypsies use their own local family members for this crap when they aren't out and about trying to (scam) sell you a new roof or pave your driveway...
 
2019-03-12 10:25:14 AM  

steklo: pup.socket: Well, you cannot easily buy diapers with an iPhone, jewelry or an $500 purse.

Not according to the new LetGo commercials, Pianos; Lawnmowers...can be traded for cash!


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2019-03-12 10:26:09 AM  
There's a panhandler here in Chicago who's always out begging for money for a bus ticket to see her family in Milwaukee. One day my friend, who works for United, went up to her and said "fark a bus ticket. I can get you a free flight right now!"

She didn't take him up on the offer lol
 
2019-03-12 10:34:02 AM  

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I think of this as less of a pan and more like a meat cleaver of stupidity striking right in the middle of the country
 
2019-03-12 10:35:15 AM  

Frank N Stein: There's a panhandler here in Chicago who's always out begging for money for a bus ticket to see her family in Milwaukee. One day my friend, who works for United, went up to her and said "fark a bus ticket. I can get you a free flight right now!"

She didn't take him up on the offer lol


We've got a guy like that near us too. Hits the Walgreens parking lot asking for bus fare to get back to a regularly changing home town (Reno, Bakersfield, Redding, etc.)

One time I called him on it and he flipped right the fark out. Screaming yelling, calling me all kinds of names. It was pretty funny really. Laughing at him seemed to upset him even more.

Hope he gets home soon, or gets hit by a bus.
Whichever.


But for reals, don't give money to anyone asking for it. Donate to a charity or volunteer some time or make donations of unwanted items. You'll get the same (if not better) feeling of doing something good for others and you'll know where your time/money/items are actually going.
 
2019-03-12 10:37:56 AM  

Merltech: I thought this was the norm for today's society.  Iphones and expensive personal accessories are more important than the kid's needs.


Back in the mid 1990's, I worked at some welfare motels down in Richmond. I did the maintenance. It was not unusual for a group of adults to get adjoining rooms, but a shiatload of crack cocaine, place the kids in one room while they got high in the other. These kids would have designer clothes and shoes but nothing to eat except a box of cereal while the parents smoked crack and ate Popeye's chicken.
 
2019-03-12 10:40:17 AM  

sboyle1020: MrBallou: I've been suspicious about the roadside panhandlers around here for a while. There's always one per intersection, no more, and they change out periodically, with a different person every few days.

That's just way to regular too be spontaneous. It seems very organized, which suggests an organizer.

You just described a Union.


Yep, though I bet the pension plan sucks.
 
2019-03-12 10:41:01 AM  

Coconice: You know, if we want equal justice for the rich and poor - and we do a lot of screaming that this is exactly what we want - then there should be no more or less attention paid to a wealthy beggar than there is to a poor one.

Arrest them, run them off, or leave them alone, but do it equally.

Personally, I have a problem with wealthy beggars, but it is fairly hypocritical to want pan handlers treated differently based on personal assets.

Wasn't this lady just doing a live action GoFundMe?


The biggest generally difference between rich people doing X and poor people doing X, is how they actually do it.

Rich people might beg for money, but they rarely do it at busy intersections in an unsafe fashion.  Rich people might beg for money and use it to buy drugs... But they do those drugs inside a house or hotel.  Poor people beg for money, buy drugs, and act crazy on the train and occasionally piss themselves.

Conceptual, same thing.
In practice, very different.
 
2019-03-12 10:42:48 AM  
Ugh, nevermind.  I need sleep and I have totally misunderstood.

Sorry
 
2019-03-12 10:58:22 AM  

FormlessOne: Article buries the lede:

"Their investigation led her to admit that she and several other women got dropped off to panhandle throughout NJ," the Facebook post read.

We just watched one human trafficking ring get taken down in Florida, and another one being dismantled right here in Washington - we have a modern-day Fagin here, apparently recruiting & exploiting women to panhandle throughout New Jersey, and the cops basically said "well, here's your citation, head back to your Fagin and let him deal with your underperforming ass?"


$500 purse, jeelry and iPhoneX says Roma/Traveller not poor, exploited woman.
 
2019-03-12 10:58:27 AM  
 
2019-03-12 10:59:08 AM  

steklo: Murflette: I noted that too. How is this not a trafficking concern?

More than likely this is a "gypsy" gang. I saw "Romanian" in the headline and the first thing I thought of was Gypsy's pulling this crap.

Trafficking won't come into play here unless the Gypsy ring leader managed to get some Europeans to come over against their will to do the panhandling and whatever else is up their sleeve.

These Gypsies use their own local family members for this crap when they aren't out and about trying to (scam) sell you a new roof or pave your driveway...


The other fun thing they do in my area is mass shoplifting in department stores. One of the oldest scams in the book involves a whole pack of gypsies coming into a store. Usually, there's at least ten. Five or six of them will get in a big fight, yelling, cursing, knocking stuff over. While the attention is diverted to the "fight," a few others will grab as much stuff as they can and calmly walk out the door. As soon as they hit the doors and set off the merchandise alarms, they all scatter.

It's very well choreographed.

They are a delightful people!
 
2019-03-12 11:00:58 AM  

icon0fs1n: Even better when the local businesses call out fake panhandlers as well.


And this is exactly why I don't give any money to panhandlers. I do give money to my local shelter.
 
2019-03-12 11:03:49 AM  
Is there a maximum wealth allowed for pandhandling? Is it a hard cut off or is it phased out starting at a certain level?
 
2019-03-12 11:08:38 AM  

pueblonative: Considering the fact that we have Joel Osteen panhandling for jets and mansions, subs, I don't think we have the right to call anybody a "fake panhandler" regardless of what crappy apple product they roll with.


Or we can call the both fake panhandlers and not give either of them the time of day.
 
2019-03-12 11:10:40 AM  

BizarreMan: pueblonative: Considering the fact that we have Joel Osteen panhandling for jets and mansions, subs, I don't think we have the right to call anybody a "fake panhandler" regardless of what crappy apple product they roll with.

I was just wondering the difference between a "fake panhandler" and a "real panhandler".


The smell mostly.
 
2019-03-12 11:12:02 AM  
At my old job in a manufacturing plant, they kept having workforce shortages, but if you went to the highway on any given day you could find 3-4 able bodied adults panhandling at intersections.

My suggestion to HR was to buy a van and train a team of "workforce press gang members".
 
2019-03-12 11:15:23 AM  
Yeah! Makes the rest of us panhandlers look bad. Should i be upset? Was obvious tag on vacation?
 
2019-03-12 11:18:14 AM  
We've got a guy near my place that is out most days. The problem I have with him is that he always has a large cup of Starbucks and that just isn't the right look to adopt for the job in my book.

As for being well dressed, I volunteer at a shelter in Minneapolis (Simpson Shelter/Housing Services- if you want to really help, they do a great job and run a very good program that works! Check them out) and, for a year, we had a guy who left every morning to his job in a suit and tie (he cashiered at a bank). Every night, he carefully cleaned the suit and pressed it. He had a very rough story and was trying to bounce back in difficult circumstances. You never know who is truly homeless. He came in one day, showed everyone the key to his new apartment an we never saw him again.

My favorite guy in Minneapolis is the guy who has a sign that reads: I'll be honest- It's for beer.
 
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