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(Detroit Free Press)   Yo, dawg, I hear you like airbag recalls   (freep.com) divider line
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2019-03-12 06:21:46 AM  
Yo, dawg, I don't click on Freeperville.
 
2019-03-12 06:48:56 AM  

jgbrowning: Yo, dawg, I don't click on Freeperville.


The Detroit Free Press is hardly "Freeperville".
They chose their shortened name poorly.
 
2019-03-12 06:50:23 AM  

ZMugg: jgbrowning: Yo, dawg, I don't click on Freeperville.

The Detroit Free Press is hardly "Freeperville".
They chose their shortened name poorly.


Thanks for the information! I was obviously under the wrong impression.
 
2019-03-12 07:00:35 AM  
What the hell, Honda?
 
2019-03-12 07:08:05 AM  

jgbrowning: ZMugg: jgbrowning: Yo, dawg, I don't click on Freeperville.

The Detroit Free Press is hardly "Freeperville".
They chose their shortened name poorly.

Thanks for the information! I was obviously under the wrong impression.


So was I until I clicked on a link and discovered the error of my ways.
You're welcome.
;^D
 
2019-03-12 08:00:12 AM  
The recall that will never end.
 
2019-03-12 09:32:46 AM  
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2019-03-12 09:46:28 AM  
I am getting a kick out of this ...

Seriously, I am getting my airbag replaced today on my MKX. I have to drive a shiatty rental all day. I seriously don't understand why a dealership wouldn't use the opportunity to put people in a vehicle with all the bells and whistles in order to persuade them to trade up.
 
2019-03-12 11:14:43 AM  

GameSprocket: I am getting a kick out of this ...

Seriously, I am getting my airbag replaced today on my MKX. I have to drive a shiatty rental all day. I seriously don't understand why a dealership wouldn't use the opportunity to put people in a vehicle with all the bells and whistles in order to persuade them to trade up.


Wife took our Nissan in today for bags as well, so I, too, am getting a kick. They gave her a Rogue for the day, which she'll enjoy as her car is nine years old. Our next new one will be hers.
 
2019-03-12 11:25:01 AM  

greatgodyoshi: GameSprocket: I am getting a kick out of this ...

Seriously, I am getting my airbag replaced today on my MKX. I have to drive a shiatty rental all day. I seriously don't understand why a dealership wouldn't use the opportunity to put people in a vehicle with all the bells and whistles in order to persuade them to trade up.

Wife took our Nissan in today for bags as well, so I, too, am getting a kick. They gave her a Rogue for the day, which she'll enjoy as her car is nine years old. Our next new one will be hers.


The real kicker is that they called with over $1000 worth of maintenance that they wanted to do as well. I refused everything but the spark plug replacement and battery terminal cleaning, but between those and the "loaner" (new definition of loan) car, they are still charging me over $600.

I am seriously thinking about going with Toyota for my next vehicle. I never got the shakedown at the Toyota dealer.
 
2019-03-12 01:13:21 PM  

GameSprocket: greatgodyoshi: GameSprocket: I am getting a kick out of this ...

Seriously, I am getting my airbag replaced today on my MKX. I have to drive a shiatty rental all day. I seriously don't understand why a dealership wouldn't use the opportunity to put people in a vehicle with all the bells and whistles in order to persuade them to trade up.

Wife took our Nissan in today for bags as well, so I, too, am getting a kick. They gave her a Rogue for the day, which she'll enjoy as her car is nine years old. Our next new one will be hers.

The real kicker is that they called with over $1000 worth of maintenance that they wanted to do as well. I refused everything but the spark plug replacement and battery terminal cleaning, but between those and the "loaner" (new definition of loan) car, they are still charging me over $600.

I am seriously thinking about going with Toyota for my next vehicle. I never got the shakedown at the Toyota dealer.


Oof. Sorry. Ours went the other way. We called for the airbag and they told us that our springs needed changing out as well, free of charge. My wife hasn't called to complain that they found anything else else that "needs" doing, so it looks like we'll get this done with no additional cost, which is a shocker to me. You almost never get away without some filter or other that will just kill you if you don't change it RIGHT NOW!
 
2019-03-12 02:35:22 PM  
I think it's awesome just for the irony. Airbags were failing because they had too much moisture. So they put more dessicants in them. Those dessicants trapped moisture. Too much dessicant resulted in too much moisture.
 
2019-03-12 06:05:01 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: I think it's awesome just for the irony. Airbags were failing because they had too much moisture. So they put more dessicants in them. Those dessicants trapped moisture. Too much dessicant resulted in too much moisture.


Nah, just gets used up over time.
 
2019-03-12 06:58:30 PM  

SwiftFox: itcamefromschenectady: I think it's awesome just for the irony. Airbags were failing because they had too much moisture. So they put more dessicants in them. Those dessicants trapped moisture. Too much dessicant resulted in too much moisture.

Nah, just gets used up over time.


No, I believe what happened is that the dessicants are supposed to be dry before they are installed in a more or less sealed compartment to keep it dry. Instead, they soaked up moisture by being stored improperly in the factory, and because there was a lot of dessicant, it soaked up a lot of moisture.
 
2019-03-12 07:48:04 PM  
Checked the mailbox today and there was another recall for the CR-V. Already had both airbags done, plus the door lock actuators, so I was kinda surprised. Turns out cars can corrode in areas where there is lots of road salt.
 
2019-03-12 11:25:08 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: SwiftFox: itcamefromschenectady: I think it's awesome just for the irony. Airbags were failing because they had too much moisture. So they put more dessicants in them. Those dessicants trapped moisture. Too much dessicant resulted in too much moisture.

Nah, just gets used up over time.

No, I believe what happened is that the dessicants are supposed to be dry before they are installed in a more or less sealed compartment to keep it dry. Instead, they soaked up moisture by being stored improperly in the factory, and because there was a lot of dessicant, it soaked up a lot of moisture.


Yes, improper storage of the propellant and the descant at the assembly plant were the problems with the Takata airbags for the most part. Improper compaction of the propellant was also an issue, but only became one because the less compacted tablets were more susceptible to moisture damage.

You see, when you put your assembly plant in southern Mexico and have no climate control in the buildings, the employees are going to open the windows and doors of the buildings so they don't die of heat exhaustion. With a tropical river running through the manufacturing complex (not kidding here, they had a sizable tropical river that bisected the property), humidity levels are going to be rather high. You then don't store the tablets properly when they are on site to keep them in the bags right until you assemble the units, things are going to get mushy.

The two binding agents for the explosives used were dry, powdered clay and graphite. The graphite was only used on a limited basis. The clay was excellent at pulling moisture out of the air. This is one of the reasons the plant to product the tablets was in an arid climate, so moisture would not be a problem. The constantly broken humidity sensors in the propellant plant on the other hand, well, the tablets were most likely still OK since random testing of them at the plant passed them to ship.

\worked for Takata for a while
\\that place was horribly managed and they were always doing stupid things
\\\things that led to explosions on site regularly
 
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