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2019-03-11 02:26:01 PM  
This is why I quit Sim City:

"We need more Police, Fire and schools!"

/raises taxes to balance budget

"Taxes are too high!"

/initiates major diaster
 
2019-03-11 02:31:04 PM  
"I'm not anti-tea party but we have to occasionally ... for good education and highways, you need to bite the bullet and move forward," said Greer, who chairs the Alabama House Transportation, Utilities and Infrastructure Committee

Then why the fark did you and the rest of your republican god botherers fight tooth and nail against a lottery?
 
2019-03-11 02:35:08 PM  

Onionhead: This is why I quit Sim City:

"We need more Police, Fire and schools!"

/raises taxes to balance budget

"Taxes are too high!"

/initiates major diaster


Stop pressing the tornado button you chucklefark
 
2019-03-11 02:37:44 PM  
This is one of those places where the libertarian ideals of taxes and freedom run up against the reality of physics. Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.
 
2019-03-11 02:43:39 PM  

SurfaceTension: This is one of those places where the libertarian ideals of taxes and freedom run up against the reality of physics. Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.


See also: Kansas
 
2019-03-11 02:45:28 PM  
There is not a road fixing tax in America that is designed to actually fix the roads.

If they fix the roads, they wont have an issue they know they can exploit to raise taxes.

over and over and over.
 
2019-03-11 02:52:59 PM  
addressing in what most places would be called a progressive agenda,

So the GOP version of blue dog Democrats? I nominate calling them red cat Republicans.

Onionhead: This is why I quit Sim City:

"We need more Police, Fire and schools!"

/raises taxes to balance budget

"Taxes are too high!"


I found the cheat codes and created a trickle down economy to become the greatest mayor ever. Lowered taxes and provided full services.
 
2019-03-11 02:56:18 PM  

SurfaceTension: This is one of those places where the libertarian ideals of taxes and freedom run up against the reality of physics. Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.


Clearly they want the feds to pay for shiat.
 
2019-03-11 03:03:58 PM  

Shadow Blasko: Onionhead: This is why I quit Sim City:

"We need more Police, Fire and schools!"

/raises taxes to balance budget

"Taxes are too high!"

/initiates major diaster

Stop pressing the tornado button you chucklefark


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2019-03-11 03:06:38 PM  
I think they should just ban gasoline completely and go back to horses.
 
2019-03-11 03:07:22 PM  

Shadow Blasko: Onionhead: This is why I quit Sim City:

"We need more Police, Fire and schools!"

/raises taxes to balance budget

"Taxes are too high!"

/initiates major diaster

Stop pressing the tornado button you chucklefark


Sometimes I like to turn on all the disasters simultaneously as well as the riots, then demolish the fire and police stations just to watch it all burn. It can be therapeutic.
 
2019-03-11 03:07:49 PM  

pueblonative: SurfaceTension: This is one of those places where the libertarian ideals of taxes and freedom run up against the reality of physics. Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.

See also: Kansas


Ugh, we used to have such great roads, too. The GOP's decision to switch from a six-year replacement schedule to a FIFTY YEAR schedule was an intentionally self-inflicted disaster.
 
2019-03-11 03:08:20 PM  

SurfaceTension: This is one of those places where the libertarian ideals of taxes and freedom run up against the reality of physics. Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.


OCC: No, that's socialism!
 
2019-03-11 03:08:50 PM  
A gas tax hurts the poor more than anyone else.. its really, really, regressive.
 
2019-03-11 03:09:13 PM  
Gas taxes are disproportionately hard on the poor. They should love it.
 
2019-03-11 03:09:20 PM  
This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?
 
2019-03-11 03:09:32 PM  
It's a well known fact that decreasing tax rates increases tax revenue. Why don't they make the gas tax rate negative and start raking in the cash?
 
2019-03-11 03:09:46 PM  
Conservatives want free stuff, refuse to pay for it.

Liberals want stuff but also want to pay for it.

Who are the real deadbeats, again?
 
2019-03-11 03:10:31 PM  

vrax: This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?


I think road shipping accounts for something like 98% of all road wear. Maybe we could tax the shipping companies directly as well.
 
2019-03-11 03:10:34 PM  
It's not called flyover country for nothing.
 
2019-03-11 03:10:37 PM  
Infrastructure is Socialism.
 
2019-03-11 03:11:16 PM  

dwrash: A gas tax hurts the poor more than anyone else.. its really, really, regressive.


Yea, but this way, businesses don't have to pay more in state taxes. And then the businesses can use that money to employ more Alabamans, who will wisely spend that money in local economies.
 
2019-03-11 03:11:42 PM  
Republicans don't deserve to live in a civilization since they obviously don't understand what it takes to build and operate one. If they had any balls or integrity they'd fark off to the wilderness and leave the rest of us alone.
 
2019-03-11 03:12:17 PM  

Riothamus: vrax: This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?

I think road shipping accounts for something like 98% of all road wear. Maybe we could tax the shipping companies directly as well.


Heavy vehicle use tax is already a thing.
 
2019-03-11 03:13:00 PM  

I sound fat: If they fix the roads, they wont have an issue they know they can exploit to raise taxes.


SurfaceTension: Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.


/you don't sound fat
//you sound stupid
///Username checks out SurfaceTension
 
2019-03-11 03:13:18 PM  

optikeye: "I'm not anti-tea party but we have to occasionally ... for good education and highways, you need to bite the bullet and move forward," said Greer, who chairs the Alabama House Transportation, Utilities and Infrastructure Committee

Then why the fark did you and the rest of your republican god botherers fight tooth and nail against a lottery?


BECAUSE JESUS!!!
 
2019-03-11 03:14:03 PM  

Fart_Machine: Riothamus: vrax: This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?

I think road shipping accounts for something like 98% of all road wear. Maybe we could tax the shipping companies directly as well.

Heavy vehicle use tax is already a thing.


But is it proportional? Does it at least outweigh the revenue raised by consumer gas taxes?
 
2019-03-11 03:14:08 PM  

Riothamus: vrax: This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?

I think road shipping accounts for something like 98% of all road wear. Maybe we could tax the shipping companies directly as well.


Oh, it does, but don't they already pay a number of fees?  Though I have no idea what they are applied towards.  And if not, they definitely should.  However, that's the same industry that took a shiat over catalyst requirements to lower their disproportionately high emissions.
 
2019-03-11 03:14:55 PM  

culebra: Republicans don't deserve to live in a civilization since they obviously don't understand what it takes to build and operate one. If they had any balls or integrity they'd fark off to the wilderness and leave the rest of us alone.


It's their raahht/ferrdumz to dick over whatever civilization they want. Your suggestion is just proof that liberals are intolerant millennial communist authoritarian socialists that want to ruin everyone's freedom.
 
2019-03-11 03:15:59 PM  
YOU WILL REGRET THIS!!!
 
2019-03-11 03:19:30 PM  

vrax: This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?


Answer #1:  Stupid.  With the "And selfish."  "And short-sighted." modifiers.

Answer #2:  Depends --  Are the toll roads going to be privately owned and provide profit to the wealthy owners who donate to t(R)eason-pa(R)ty politicians?

Then, yes, yes they do.  They will want them very badly, once the deliberate misinformation and willful ignorance efforts converge on the topic.
 
2019-03-11 03:19:48 PM  

Kornchex: I sound fat: If they fix the roads, they wont have an issue they know they can exploit to raise taxes.

SurfaceTension: Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.

/you don't sound fat
//you sound stupid
///Username checks out SurfaceTension


He sounds like derprash's alt.
 
2019-03-11 03:19:55 PM  

Ambivalence: SurfaceTension: This is one of those places where the libertarian ideals of taxes and freedom run up against the reality of physics. Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.

Clearly they want the feds to pay for shiat.


The too big, gigantic federal gubmint that they want to drown in a bathtub? That federal gubmint?
 
2019-03-11 03:22:06 PM  

damageddude: addressing in what most places would be called a progressive agenda,

So the GOP version of blue dog Democrats? I nominate calling them red cat Republicans.

Onionhead: This is why I quit Sim City:

"We need more Police, Fire and schools!"

/raises taxes to balance budget

"Taxes are too high!"

I found the cheat codes and created a trickle down economy to become the greatest mayor ever. Lowered taxes and provided full services.


Turn "Disasters" off then set a tax rate to increase the Treasury $100 or $200 a year.  Let the it run in the back ground for a week or so.  Rejoin the game 10,000 years later with a couple billion saved up.
 
2019-03-11 03:24:31 PM  
As I recall the roads in AL, at least the ones I've been on, were kind of nice.

I was sort of surprised how universally derpy Alabama people are even compared to their neighbor with the worst roads in the country, Mississippi, funnily enough for that exact reason.

Oh well. I don't live there and never plan to visit again. Let them fight.
 
2019-03-11 03:25:19 PM  

king of vegas: Gas taxes are disproportionately hard on the poor. They should love it.


Came here to make this observation.
The gas tax pits Republicans' hatred of taxes against their hatred of poor people.
 
2019-03-11 03:26:49 PM  

vrax: This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?


That is a fee or fine.  It is not a tax.

Taxes are bad an unavoidable.  Fees and fines are a consistent source of revenue because noone ever changes to avoid them.
 
2019-03-11 03:28:31 PM  
Same thing is currently happening in Michigan.
 
2019-03-11 03:30:38 PM  

DORMAMU: vrax: This is what gas taxes are farkin' for, you morons!  It's the most direct way to tax people for that usage and maintenance.  How stupid are these people?  Do they want toll roads?

That is a fee or fine.  It is not a tax.

Taxes are bad an unavoidable.  Fees and fines are a consistent source of revenue because noone ever changes to avoid them.


Sure, OK, but it's called a gas tax, so I'm just going with it.
 
2019-03-11 03:32:37 PM  

Ambivalence: SurfaceTension: This is one of those places where the libertarian ideals of taxes and freedom run up against the reality of physics. Roads deteriorate with use over time, and no amount of "freedom" is going to change that.

Clearly they want the feds to pay for shiat.


ie make dem blue state libs pay for it.
 
2019-03-11 03:35:43 PM  
Guys, you arent calculating the gas tax curve right...

If they lower the gas tax to negative 100% then tax revenues will skyrocket and they'll have both infinite tax revenue and free gas for everyone.
 
2019-03-11 03:36:30 PM  

Onionhead: This is why I quit Sim City:

"We need more Police, Fire and schools!"

/raises taxes to balance budget

"Taxes are too high!"

/initiates major diaster


so...it was perfectly realistic?  heh
 
2019-03-11 03:38:24 PM  
"I'm not anti-tea party but we have to occasionally ... for good education and highways, you need to bite the bullet and move forward," said Greer

State Rep. Lynn Greer of Rogersville sounds very confused.  Public education and public highways are things opposed by the GOP.  In fact, this type of public largess has been branded as "socialism" by the Republican party.  Rep Greer may be overdue for a difficult personal revelation about being in the wrong party.
 
2019-03-11 03:39:38 PM  
Alabama gets $3.25 for every dollar they send to the federal government. Those socialists are looking for more.
 
2019-03-11 03:40:55 PM  

Muta: damageddude: addressing in what most places would be called a progressive agenda,

Turn "Disasters" off then set a tax rate to increase the Treasury $100 or $200 a year.  Let the it run in the back ground for a week or so.  Rejoin the game 10,000 years later with a couple billion saved up.


Alternatively, I imagine one could deposit a penny in a bank in the current era, and travel to the End of Time and take advantage of the operations of compound interest?
 
2019-03-11 03:41:01 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think they should just ban gasoline completely and go back to horses.


As someone who lives near a recent (last ten years or so) influx of Amish - No. Just no. They beat the crap out of the road I live on much worse than my light truck.
 
2019-03-11 03:41:29 PM  
Initially came to read the comments.  Now, I'm going to find my old Sim City game....
 
2019-03-11 03:41:53 PM  
LOLabama.
 
2019-03-11 03:47:48 PM  

dwrash: A gas tax hurts the poor more than anyone else.. its really, really, regressive.


Then the Plutocrat Party ought to be very much in favor of it.
 
2019-03-11 03:48:58 PM  
Indiana increased their gas tax last year, which is a good thing.  The wife and I traveled up to Chicago last May and their were massive craters in the middle of Indiana's interstates.  The stretches around Indianapolis were the worse.  I made it a point to stay far back from any traffic in front of me so I could see any potholes coming and move around in my lane to avoid hitting them and damaging my car.  (Yes, they were that bad.)

Ohio's roads aren't nearly that bad, but they aren't good, either.  Ohio just passed a gas tax increase, as well.
 
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