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2019-02-22 11:49:27 PM  
Better raise prices to make up for lost revenue.
 
2019-02-22 11:55:27 PM  
Let me warm up my nano-scale violin.
 
2019-02-23 12:04:36 AM  

Tourney3p0: Better raise prices to make up for lost revenue.


That seems to be the general plan and is about as rational as a state (such as mine) that has residents fleeing in droves because of high taxes raise taxes.  After looking into the alternatives a few years ago I could not find a good alternative though.  Even with a repeater for the modem the TV in the living room is often SOL.  The only things we really want are the channels that carry NHL and NCAA football.
 
2019-02-23 12:09:39 AM  
Comcast: this isn't rocket science.  You control the bundles and we aren't buying.

Maybe Eddie Lampert should buy Comcast and implement Ayn Rand pricing.
 
2019-02-23 12:23:41 AM  
Looking forward to the cable shills here to tell us how much we'll regret it when they're gone.
 
2019-02-23 12:25:01 AM  

Tourney3p0: Better raise prices to make up for lost revenue.


Article covers that.

" Most providers, like Google's (googl, +0.98%) YouTube TV and AT&T's (t, +0.94%) DirecTV Now, had to raise prices last year to account for higher costs charged by cable programmers, so subscriber growth has slowed. "

It's pretty much self defeating.
 
2019-02-23 12:32:26 AM  

GrailOfThunder: Tourney3p0: Better raise prices to make up for lost revenue.

Article covers that.

" Most providers, like Google's (googl, +0.98%) YouTube TV and AT&T's (t, +0.94%) DirecTV Now, had to raise prices last year to account for higher costs charged by cable programmers, so subscriber growth has slowed. "

It's pretty much self defeating.


Not a problem.  Subscriber growth is going to slow as a result, but that's to be expected.  What we can do is raise prices again to make up for it.
 
2019-02-23 12:45:01 AM  
so where are we getting around the ol' cable provider is also the internet provider?

They will measure this soon enough and adjust.
 
2019-02-23 12:57:36 AM  
OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.
 
2019-02-23 01:12:27 AM  

Chevello: OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.


6G will be here soon.
 
2019-02-23 01:36:50 AM  
Streaming is there for people who want to keep paying. OTA broadcasts are usually high quality, definitely better than pay TV. $150-200 and some patience will get you a bunch of free-to-air satellite channels (NHK, First Nations Experience, PBS in various forms, news feeds, international). A master feed of Nature or Nova is gorgeous.
 
2019-02-23 02:25:10 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Streaming is there for people who want to keep paying. OTA broadcasts are usually high quality, definitely better than pay TV. $150-200 and some patience will get you a bunch of free-to-air satellite channels (NHK, First Nations Experience, PBS in various forms, news feeds, international). A master feed of Nature or Nova is gorgeous.


People that grew up with analog antennas, or even rabbit ears, generally aren't aware of the picture quality improvements that Digital HD is broadcast in now; many of them still think that antennas = lousy reception, fuzzy pictures, etc.  And there's really no incentive for TV stations themselves to try to educate these individuals, as they don't WANT people to move off cable back to OTA, as that costs them revenue that the cable companies bring in per subscriber.

My setup is an HD antenna, HDHomeRun 2-channel box, and Plex, which doubles as both a player and a DVR. I can pull in around 50 channels OTA. Works very well.
 
2019-02-23 02:50:30 AM  

Chevello: OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.


The content providers need to get rid of the redundant networks. We don't need 200 channels when 50 of them specialize in showing "Law & Order" reruns and five run "Undercover Boss" constantly. Not having so many networks would lower the cost of TV packages, even in "skinny bundle" services. More doesn't always mean better.
 
2019-02-23 03:01:46 AM  
Cut the cord in 2012 then plugged back in for a month in 2014 and will never return.  I just can't handle the constant irrelevant commercials and the fact stuff is only broadcast on a specific schedule. That business model may have worked before, but why bother now?  I mean who watches SNL live anymore?

As for advertising, at least the Hulu-class ones have some sense of who I am and can close one eye and fire in my general direction.

While I'm sure I will regret this statement in a decade, I enjoy my streaming, usually commercial-free, subscription-based overloads.
 
2019-02-23 03:26:12 AM  
The bundled cable model has vastly inflated the amount of money flowing to the pro sports leagues, and once that dries up its going to be apocalyptic for their revenue. I expect major strikes and lockouts.
 
2019-02-23 04:41:02 AM  
Amazon Recast -- one-time payment, and get an over-the-air DVR you can put anywhere in your house and watch TV on multiple devices
 
2019-02-23 05:49:55 AM  

DesertCoyote: Chevello: OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.

The content providers need to get rid of the redundant networks. We don't need 200 channels when 50 of them specialize in showing "Law & Order" reruns and five run "Undercover Boss" constantly. Not having so many networks would lower the cost of TV packages, even in "skinny bundle" services. More doesn't always mean better.


Exactly.  Why pay for a cable package when the same content is on day after day?  I can search for exactly what I want at any point and stream it instantly.  True On-Demand.  I now pay as much for access as for a single device mobile phone plan and it provides connectivity to everything in my house.

And we won't even discuss how they do business.  Glad to be rid of them all.
 
2019-02-23 09:18:29 AM  
Pay lots of money so I can watch commercials while waiting for the show I'm not interested in watching to come back on?
 
2019-02-23 09:22:49 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Chevello: OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.

6G will be here soon.


How do I cut the radio waves?!
 
2019-02-23 09:33:39 AM  
The local cable company is so desperate, their office staff is required to make personal visits to the homes of former subscribers in the evening.  Recently I had a cable company guy knock on my door at 9PM, he looked desperate.  I'm not nasty to them, and I explain it to them very politely.  I have broadband net, and an antenna (I live very close to NYC, easy to get over the air broadcasts).  What I tell tell them boils down to, "Your biz model is a dinosaur, and the meteor has hit."
 
2019-02-23 09:37:42 AM  

DesertCoyote: Chevello: OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.

The content providers need to get rid of the redundant networks. We don't need 200 channels when 50 of them specialize in showing "Law & Order" reruns and five run "Undercover Boss" constantly. Not having so many networks would lower the cost of TV packages, even in "skinny bundle" services. More doesn't always mean better.


That drives me batty that the bundles that the cable companies deign to give us would be the same station 4 times over. Regular, HD, Spanish, On Demand, 15 shopping networks, but fark you if you want TBS, Cartoon Network and Comedy Central all in one package that isn't there 500+ channel one.
 
2019-02-23 10:00:26 AM  
I mean who watches SNL live anymore?

Kids too young to go to bars/clubs, maybe some family types who still stay up to 1 AM on Saturdays, and the kind of douches who wait until midnight to even leave the house. So, same as always I reckon.
 
2019-02-23 10:41:56 AM  
People are too busy to set personal schedules around shows. Haven't used a DVR that wasn't a clunky, slow thing that was old tech twenty years ago. Just easier to stream or download.
 
2019-02-23 10:45:55 AM  

Excelsior: Amazon Recast -- one-time payment, and get an over-the-air DVR you can put anywhere in your house and watch TV on multiple devices


Call me when Amazon develops the Roku app for the Recast. I might be waiting a long time for that. Same with the YouTube TV app for the Fire Stick.
 
2019-02-23 10:55:05 AM  
The more think about it, the more I miss old cable. Cable before netflix. I feel like I watched a lot more different shpws on old cable, as the shows I really wanted to watch only came on so often. So I would channel surf, end up watching a show or movie I would never actually pick to put on, and sometimes I'd enjoy it.

That being said, not only is being able to stream what I want, went I want a lot nicer, as now I don't get stuck watching infomercials at 1 in the morning.

Also Netflix and DVR killed cable. What use to be a carefully selected and scheduled order of different shows throughout the day has degraded to marathons of a single show per channel, which is just Netflix with ads and no control.

But it does really seem the hardest thing about streaming is deciding what to watch.
 
2019-02-23 11:11:31 AM  

tjsands1118: The more think about it, the more I miss old cable. Cable before netflix. I feel like I watched a lot more different shpws on old cable, as the shows I really wanted to watch only came on so often. So I would channel surf, end up watching a show or movie I would never actually pick to put on, and sometimes I'd enjoy it.

That being said, not only is being able to stream what I want, went I want a lot nicer, as now I don't get stuck watching infomercials at 1 in the morning.

Also Netflix and DVR killed cable. What use to be a carefully selected and scheduled order of different shows throughout the day has degraded to marathons of a single show per channel, which is just Netflix with ads and no control.

But it does really seem the hardest thing about streaming is deciding what to watch.


The only thing I miss about it is knowing what new shows are coming out. Sure, there are recommendations here or other forums, but sometimes I don't hear about a show I might enjoy until it's getting canceled. I may still find it and watch it, but I don't want to get too invested if I know it's not going anywhere.

This last week I've been checking into getting cable for our new house, but after going through the channel lineups vs. the price points, there's no value there over Netflix/ Prime/ other services. The cheapest plans have fewer channels than I can get OTA and there's a surcharge for HD and another for local sports which I never watch anyways. F-That.
 
2019-02-23 01:59:57 PM  

RunsLikeRiver: I mean who watches SNL live anymore?


That's the only thing I watch live.

$9 antenna from Walmart.

Amusing that's your example of an unimportant reason to not cut the cord.
 
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2019-02-23 03:18:42 PM  

Chevello: OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.


We're already there.  When I moved in December, a decent internet connection cost less when bundled with tv than it did on its own.
 
2019-02-23 05:10:35 PM  
Fark cable companies. Glad they dying.
 
2019-02-23 05:11:22 PM  

DesertCoyote: Call me when Amazon develops the Roku app for the Recast. I might be waiting a long time for that. Same with the YouTube TV app for the Fire Stick.


No Youtube app on the fire stick wasn't a delivere choice by Amazon -- it is a casualty in an ongoing dispute between Amazon and Google.They have fighting each other for a while. Amazon decided not to carry the google chromecast in their stores (being a direct competitor to Amazon's own fire/firestick ecosystem), and refused to add chromecast support into the Amazon Prime video app. In response, Youtube blocked the Firestick's youtube app from working. When Amazon made a browser-based workaround, youtube actively blocked that from working as well.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/22/16​9​21102/google-breaks-amazon-fire-tv-you​tube-workaround

So as far as there not being any youtube on the fire stick, it all boils down to "when giants fight, it's the grass that suffers".
 
2019-02-23 07:46:15 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Chevello: OK folks. The world has enough cable cutters. You're going to make internet only plans cost as much as the cable bill I was trying to cut back on.

6G will be here soon.


Which means I'll hit my monthly bandwidth limit in seconds instead if minutes.
 
2019-02-24 12:41:12 AM  

drewogatory: I mean who watches SNL live anymore?

Kids too young to go to bars/clubs, maybe some family types who still stay up to 1 AM on Saturdays, and the kind of douches who wait until midnight to even leave the house. So, same as always I reckon.


I'm watching it live right now. It's one of the few shows I watch regularly. I have an antenna for when my internet goes out and Saturdays are my Mondays, so I get off at 10, get home at 10:15, take the dog out, and lay down and turn on SNL around 10:30.

/I don't usually pay much attention to it though, mostly I just mess around on Fark with the tv on for background noise.
 
2019-02-24 03:49:15 AM  

Excelsior: When Amazon made a browser-based workaround, youtube actively blocked that from working as well.


youtube via firefox on the amazon fire is working for me fine.
 
2019-02-24 10:37:08 AM  

GrailOfThunder: kittyhas1000legs: Streaming is there for people who want to keep paying. OTA broadcasts are usually high quality, definitely better than pay TV. $150-200 and some patience will get you a bunch of free-to-air satellite channels (NHK, First Nations Experience, PBS in various forms, news feeds, international). A master feed of Nature or Nova is gorgeous.

People that grew up with analog antennas, or even rabbit ears, generally aren't aware of the picture quality improvements that Digital HD is broadcast in now; many of them still think that antennas = lousy reception, fuzzy pictures, etc.  And there's really no incentive for TV stations themselves to try to educate these individuals, as they don't WANT people to move off cable back to OTA, as that costs them revenue that the cable companies bring in per subscriber.

My setup is an HD antenna, HDHomeRun 2-channel box, and Plex, which doubles as both a player and a DVR. I can pull in around 50 channels OTA. Works very well.


The massive limestone bluff between my house and the TV stations say, "Nope".
 
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