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(ESPN)   How Tim Donaghy ended up fixing NBA games with some truly foul behavior   (espn.com) divider line
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2019-02-19 10:11:47 AM  
Just read that in the mag. What a pathetic guy. Reminds me of some of the traitors who've sold secrets to foreign powers for all of $30K or so. WTF?
 
2019-02-19 12:22:37 PM  

edmo: Just read that in the mag. What a pathetic guy. Reminds me of some of the traitors who've sold secrets to foreign powers for all of $30K or so. WTF?


That's why they put in the requirement that you have to have your credit checked as part of the process to get top secret clearance.  You don't need to pay some guy $10M to sell out secrets -- find the guy who needs like $25K to get their house out of foreclosure.  Desperation really lowers that pricetag.
 
2019-02-19 12:23:50 PM  
Everyone has their price.  They found his.  Just makes me wonder how much more there was.  I mean, not just Donaghy, but others.  The Sacramento/Lakers series alone that one year should be enough to make an entire federal case.
 
2019-02-19 12:35:03 PM  
The guy is lucky the wiseguys haven't run Vegas in decades.
 
2019-02-19 12:47:09 PM  
I will never forget the...(ok i guess i did forget!) the 2006 or so playoffs, Suns vs whomever.  one of our best players at the time, SToudamire, Diaw, one of those guys, i remember he got 3 extremely ticky-tack fouls early in the game, such that the next day the local sports dudes were like, "and what was with those three fouls?  he had to sit the whole first half, it definitely affected the Suns offense."

well well farkin well, 2-3 years later Donaghy's thing happens and, i hope you're sitting down, Donaghy called that game. and what does Donaghy say when he's caught?"  "I never overtly fixed a game, my thing was the over/under.  you find out what the over/under is, whistle their top scorer, boom, you take points off the board.  you aren't necessarily guaranteeing who wins or loses, so i never fixed the game per se, i just 'managed' how many points might be scored.  best way to do that is to give a guy a few fouls and send him to the bench.  maybe his teammates pick up the slack, maybe they don't, either way you just massaged the over/under."

i was farking furious.
 
2019-02-19 12:50:36 PM  
That's going to be a lot of players to put an asterisk by.
 
2019-02-19 02:24:31 PM  

Cubs300: The Sacramento/Lakers series alone that one year should be enough to make an entire federal case.


Except that Donaghy didn't start making bets on his own games until 2003...
 
2019-02-19 02:50:08 PM  

Free Radical: Cubs300: The Sacramento/Lakers series alone that one year should be enough to make an entire federal case.

Except that Donaghy didn't start making bets on his own games until 2003...


So there wasn't any funny business before that?  Not saying there was, but that series had enough questionable calls to make me think that maybe the NBA isn't/wasn't completely on the up-and-up.  That's the only example I had, because it was pretty high profile.  Can't say most people care too much about a late January matchup between the Nuggets and the Blazers, for an example.
 
2019-02-19 03:31:04 PM  
I've long viewed the NBA as very similar to the WWF - phenomenally talented athletes performing physical feats that I'd never be able to do.  With winners and losers scripted in to generate the most drama/entertainment, since it's good for the ratings.

I stopped watching the WWF as a kid.  It's not still real to me.  Same for the NBA.

/sure, whatever sport I like is probably broken, too
 
2019-02-19 03:51:39 PM  

poorsigmund: I've long viewed the NBA as very similar to the WWF - phenomenally talented athletes performing physical feats that I'd never be able to do.  With winners and losers scripted in to generate the most drama/entertainment, since it's good for the ratings.

I stopped watching the WWF as a kid.  It's not still real to me.  Same for the NBA.

/sure, whatever sport I like is probably broken, too


Pro wrestling is way less fixed than the NBA, and wrestling matches are scripted!
 
2019-02-19 04:06:02 PM  

poorsigmund: I've long viewed the NBA as very similar to the WWF - phenomenally talented athletes performing physical feats that I'd never be able to do.  With winners and losers scripted in to generate the most drama/entertainment, since it's good for the ratings.

I stopped watching the WWF as a kid.  It's not still real to me.  Same for the NBA.

/sure, whatever sport I like is probably broken, too


Better watch it.  The NBA Truthers will come after you with a vengeance.  This thread might end up getting a whole 30 comments when you account for that factor.
 
2019-02-19 04:42:59 PM  

Free Radical: Cubs300: The Sacramento/Lakers series alone that one year should be enough to make an entire federal case.

Except that Donaghy didn't start making bets on his own games until 2003...


He unspecifically specifically mentioned the 2002 WCF in his book as being fixed.

Three absolute truths from that series, I think:
1. Damn you, Robert Horry
2. The Kings got screwed in Game Six
3. The Kings choked Game Seven on their own.
 
2019-02-19 05:10:52 PM  

poorsigmund: I've long viewed the NBA as very similar to the WWF - phenomenally talented athletes performing physical feats that I'd never be able to do.  With winners and losers scripted in to generate the most drama/entertainment, since it's good for the ratings.



when david stern would call in that one ref (during the spurs run) to call pivotal series games (joey crawford?) that always seemed weird.  and you had a ref, DIck Bavetta, whose nickname was "Home Town Dick", as guess who got all the calls?  and Stern suspending the two suns for "leaving he bench" (they stood up) when that same game, earlier, TIm Duncan left the bench and walked on to the court during a kerfuffle.....no suspension there.  the NBA at times does seem fixed.
 
2019-02-19 05:13:03 PM  
I'm not able to back this up with any strong analytics, but I feel like the league has become ... I dunno, far less predictable under Silver. Stern seemed more like one to manipulate results to help TV ratings.

We're now five years into Silver's reign and we're facing the prospect of a Warriors/Bucks finals, which we never would have seen under Stern (Lakers/Kings has been mentioned here; let's not forget Bucks/Sixers, where, faced with the prospect of the Bucks or Allen Iverson in the finals, a particularly harsh punishment left the Bucks without Scott Williams in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals). LeBron's on a team that looks unlikely to make the playoffs. We're seeing fewer series finding ways to go to seven games and fewer games tightening up and being decided in the final moments to "increase viewership." I'm not going to say it's necessarily more interesting, but it feels a little more like a real sport somehow, not a contrived series of events to make sure the most marketable stars are on TV at the right times.

So yeah. It makes me wonder how complicit Stern was in all of it. Don't get me wrong; Silver served under Stern. But I feel like Silver is, or has become, the best commissioner in American sport right now, in part because he's made the NBA feel less contrived than it did under Stern. It's an accomplishment.
 
2019-02-19 05:17:04 PM  
Some games were fixed in the NBA? Color me shocked. See also 2001 eastern conference finals Bucks vs Sixers and the draft where Patrick Ewing went to the Knicks.
 
2019-02-19 07:36:40 PM  

rickythepenguin: poorsigmund: I've long viewed the NBA as very similar to the WWF - phenomenally talented athletes performing physical feats that I'd never be able to do.  With winners and losers scripted in to generate the most drama/entertainment, since it's good for the ratings.


when david stern would call in that one ref (during the spurs run) to call pivotal series games (joey crawford?) that always seemed weird.  and you had a ref, DIck Bavetta, whose nickname was "Home Town Dick", as guess who got all the calls?  and Stern suspending the two suns for "leaving he bench" (they stood up) when that same game, earlier, TIm Duncan left the bench and walked on to the court during a kerfuffle.....no suspension there.  the NBA at times does seem fixed.


No shiat. David Stern fixed more NBA games than any ref
 
2019-02-20 06:44:32 AM  

relaxitsjustme: rickythepenguin: poorsigmund: I've long viewed the NBA as very similar to the WWF - phenomenally talented athletes performing physical feats that I'd never be able to do.  With winners and losers scripted in to generate the most drama/entertainment, since it's good for the ratings.


when david stern would call in that one ref (during the spurs run) to call pivotal series games (joey crawford?) that always seemed weird.  and you had a ref, DIck Bavetta, whose nickname was "Home Town Dick", as guess who got all the calls?  and Stern suspending the two suns for "leaving he bench" (they stood up) when that same game, earlier, TIm Duncan left the bench and walked on to the court during a kerfuffle.....no suspension there.  the NBA at times does seem fixed.

No shiat. David Stern fixed more NBA games than any ref


In Stern's defense, Michael Jordan bet a lot of money on some of those games.
 
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