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(NPR)   Lose your home in a California wildfire? Welcome to your new two bedroom dog house   (npr.org) divider line
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2019-02-18 06:36:07 PM  
I remember when tiny homes were just called campers.
 
2019-02-18 07:36:32 PM  
It's not much, but if it keep you warm, keeps you dry and prices in at $200/month with utilities in an area with a massive housing crunch, they're going to have a long line of people wanting to sign up.
 
2019-02-18 07:45:51 PM  
no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???
 
2019-02-18 07:46:35 PM  
So, a really expensive trailer park.  there are ways to do it cheaper.
 
2019-02-18 07:48:38 PM  
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2019-02-18 07:56:22 PM  

kona: [i.pinimg.com image 600x444]


I would live in that.
 
2019-02-18 07:56:33 PM  
King of the Coins (and Violins) - King of the Hill YouTube Poop (YTP)
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/nsfw
 
2019-02-18 07:56:41 PM  
Don't forget the new California state mandated solar panels
 
2019-02-18 07:59:16 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: I remember when tiny homes were just called campers.


Hooverville approvervilles
 
2019-02-18 08:00:48 PM  
Probably miles better than a FEMA trailer.
 
2019-02-18 08:02:42 PM  
There was a pretty fun thread about tiny homes the other day, better gets used to the smell of your partner's shiat
 
2019-02-18 08:03:30 PM  
Lawsuit stopping it in 3...2...1...
 
2019-02-18 08:08:41 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: I remember when tiny homes were just called campers.


Tiny homes are more like coffins for the sould.
 
2019-02-18 08:08:59 PM  

some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???


Here's a radical thought:  if you can't actually provide for yourself, and someone else has to help provide for you, they get to attach conditions to that help.

No drugs or alcohol is a perfectly reasonable restriction.
 
2019-02-18 08:12:46 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: SecretAgentWoman: I remember when tiny homes were just called campers.

Tiny homes are more like coffins for the sould.


Sold?
 
2019-02-18 08:15:39 PM  

SonOfSpam: Sean VasDeferens: SecretAgentWoman: I remember when tiny homes were just called campers.

Tiny homes are more like coffins for the sould.

Sold?


sigh...soul
 
2019-02-18 08:16:52 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: I remember when tiny homes were just called campers.


They are the stupid HGTV version of campers.
 
2019-02-18 08:18:42 PM  

fat boy: Don't forget the new California state mandated solar panels


Most new campers are solar ready.  I do not see tiny house campers being any different.
 
2019-02-18 08:19:01 PM  
When I was in school I lived in a succession of efficiency apartments. They were smaller than these tiny homes, cost around $150/month (some 25 years ago), and were probably smaller than the tiny houses. I'm not feeling the sadness.
 
2019-02-18 08:19:25 PM  

cepson: When I was in school I lived in a succession of efficiency apartments. They were smaller than these tiny homes, cost around $150/month (some 25 years ago), and were probably smaller than the tiny houses. I'm not feeling the sadness.


Did I mention they were smaller than the tiny houses?
 
2019-02-18 08:20:45 PM  

gar1013: some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???

Here's a radical thought:  if you can't actually provide for yourself, and someone else has to help provide for you, they get to attach conditions to that help.

No drugs or alcohol is a perfectly reasonable restriction.


You're not perchance a librarian?
 
2019-02-18 08:31:37 PM  
meh, it's more space than a family of 5 has in most of the world. It's more space than many urban dwellers have for a fraction of the price. It's energy efficient, low footprint, easily movable. No outrage from me.
 
2019-02-18 08:31:54 PM  
Alternatively titled "Why not to shop for insurance based off the cheapest policy, particularly when you have pricey real estate"
 
2019-02-18 08:36:22 PM  
It seems like I live in a "Tiny" house, I spend a lot of time in 2 rooms... Bedroom & bathroom.
 
2019-02-18 08:37:40 PM  
And honestly i would expect better, less inflammatory reporting from NPR.

Yes, claims will take a while to process for the insured. The quality of your policy will reflect in how long that time is.

Yes, some people owned outright or rented and were uninsured. They chose to shoulder that risk themselves, and while i empathize with them and would never wish someones house burning down on them, uhh, I, and most reasonable people, would choose to have insurance for that reason.

So i find a hard time making a river to cry when your new place someone essentially gives you after you made a series of bad decisions isn't to your liking.
 
2019-02-18 08:38:12 PM  

Alwysadydrmr: kona: [i.pinimg.com image 600x444]

I would live in that.


I'd probably spend almost all my time on that porch. Computer, PS4 and all.
 
2019-02-18 08:39:06 PM  
How many has Subby taken in?
 
2019-02-18 08:39:50 PM  
Open Your Own Treasure House

Daiju visited the master Baso in China. Baso asked: "What do you seek?"
"Enlightenment," replied Daiju.
"You have your own treasure house. Why do you search outside?" Baso asked.
Daiju inquired: "Where is my treasure house?"
Baso answered: "What you are asking is your treasure house."
Daiju was enlightened! Ever after he urged his friends: "Open your own treasure house and use those treasures."
 
2019-02-18 08:48:45 PM  
Well... better than nothing after you decided to live at the top of a hill covered by trees (that's almost been burned down a couple times before) and didn't bother to get fire insurance?  I would live in one of those.  If it had internet.  Otherwise, back to Starbucks.

"as some fire refugees start to leave the area and the state altogether."
Some people wised up at least.
 
2019-02-18 08:53:16 PM  

some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???


Even prisons have drugs and really crappy homemade alcohol.
 
2019-02-18 08:57:34 PM  

gar1013: some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???

Here's a radical thought:  if you can't actually provide for yourself, and someone else has to help provide for you, they get to attach conditions to that help.

No drugs or alcohol is a perfectly reasonable restriction.


Heres a radical thought :if you cant actually provide a liveable wage for your employees, and require them to lean on social welfare to live and remain employed (or temped, or contracted), you should have attached conditions for remaining a business.

/steps of tangellicly related soapbox
 
2019-02-18 08:57:50 PM  

gar1013: some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???

Here's a radical thought:  if you can't actually provide for yourself, and someone else has to help provide for you, they get to attach conditions to that help.

No drugs or alcohol is a perfectly reasonable restriction.


Can we do that for all forms of support? Food stamps? Welfare? Obamacare?
 
2019-02-18 08:58:07 PM  

jso2897: Open Your Own Treasure House

Daiju visited the master Baso in China. Baso asked: "What do you seek?"
"Enlightenment," replied Daiju.
"You have your own treasure house. Why do you search outside?" Baso asked.
Daiju inquired: "Where is my treasure house?"
Baso answered: "What you are asking is your treasure house."
Daiju was enlightened! Ever after he urged his friends: "Open your own treasure house and use those treasures."


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2019-02-18 09:02:32 PM  

some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???


They're catering only to the sober and well adjusted portion of the homeless population.
 
2019-02-18 09:04:20 PM  
That doesn't look any smaller than my first place. Should I feel sorry for myself retroactively?
 
2019-02-18 09:10:58 PM  

nytmare: Probably miles better than a FEMA trailer.


I never had to live in one but after hurricanes Frances and Jeanne I knew people who did.  Id take a tiny house over those shoddy things any day.
 
2019-02-18 09:28:54 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: nytmare: Probably miles better than a FEMA trailer.

I never had to live in one but after hurricanes Frances and Jeanne I knew people who did.  Id take a tiny house over those shoddy things any day.


I still feel that the supposed "fumes" from formaldehyde etc that was supposedly making everyone sick wasnt really the trouble. Because I bought one brand new unused for a hunting club. And know several others that did as well. Every single one had roof leaks on the front right corner. Fixed the leaks. Pulled the paneling and ceiling tile and the whole bedroom area was saturated with mold from being wet. Once replaced none of us ever had sinus or lung related issues from using them.
 
2019-02-18 09:33:44 PM  
Welcome to the Hipster life.
 
2019-02-18 09:59:07 PM  

mrmopar5287: gar1013: some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???

Here's a radical thought:  if you can't actually provide for yourself, and someone else has to help provide for you, they get to attach conditions to that help.

No drugs or alcohol is a perfectly reasonable restriction.

Can we do that for all forms of support? Food stamps? Welfare? Obamacare?


I guess prohibiting users of those would result in a higher class of tenants too
 
2019-02-18 10:13:43 PM  

Schmerd1948: gar1013: some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???

Here's a radical thought:  if you can't actually provide for yourself, and someone else has to help provide for you, they get to attach conditions to that help.

No drugs or alcohol is a perfectly reasonable restriction.

You're not perchance a librarian?


I don't work in a library.

If you meant libertarian, I wouldn't characterize myself as one.  I will say that I believe if you are on government assistance, that tobacco, alcohol, and gambling should be off limits.

Grown up activities are for grown ups. If you can't support yourself, then you don't need to be doing certain things.
 
2019-02-18 10:30:33 PM  

some_beer_drinker: no drug or alcohol use? is it a prison camp???


Won't be seeing these guys moving there any time soon.
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If Trailer Park Boys were remade for the US, would it look more like Top Gear USA or The Office?
/ remake is entirely unnecessary. Swearnet would never allow it anyway.
 
2019-02-18 10:36:29 PM  

zjoik: /steps of tangellicly related soapbox


Were you trying to say "tangentially"? Because I'm picturing an angelic tangerine.

What an angelic tangerine may look like.
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2019-02-18 11:02:46 PM  

gar1013: I will say that I believe if you are on government assistance, that tobacco, alcohol, and gambling should be off limits.


Ah-ha, but lemme guess, not if you're a job creator getting tax breaks. Not THAT kind of government assistance. Or using the interstate highway system. Or the police or the fire department. We'd just like to punish the poor... I mean, incentivize bootstrappiness, right?

This rhetorical undercurrent that people choose poverty because it's easy so it'll help if we make it harder makes my ass tired.
 
2019-02-18 11:06:09 PM  

caljar: So, a really expensive trailer park.  there are ways to do it cheaper.


It continues to amaze me that no one ever seems to figure out that when you need cheap housing quickly there are plenty of used camper trailers you can buy for cheap. No need to build them, just drive them on over. Give people a place to park and hook up utilities and you are done. Apparently we need to have HGTV do a show promoting them so people know they exist, despite them being everywhere.
 
2019-02-18 11:09:31 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: gar1013: I will say that I believe if you are on government assistance, that tobacco, alcohol, and gambling should be off limits.

Ah-ha, but lemme guess, not if you're a job creator getting tax breaks. Not THAT kind of government assistance. Or using the interstate highway system. Or the police or the fire department. We'd just like to punish the poor... I mean, incentivize bootstrappiness, right?

This rhetorical undercurrent that people choose poverty because it's easy so it'll help if we make it harder makes my ass tired.


Tax breaks are not the same thing as literally being given money by the government.

Looks like AOC has a Fark account after all. Must be embarrassing when Bill DeBlasio has to educate you.
 
2019-02-18 11:19:00 PM  
And, ya know what?

gar1013: If you can't support yourself, then you don't need to be doing certain things.


This article partially concerns people who are homeless because AN ENORMOUS WILDFIRE BURNED UP THEIR HOUSES. They will be given some priority slots in the "no drugs or alcohol" tiny house village. "You need to adult harder" does not address a goddamn natural disaster.

It is just so fundamentally terrifying that one's success and security are luck-dependent, that no matter how many redundancies you put in place there are circumstances out there that can reduce you to living in a cardboard box and cashing in food stamps. Maybe a fire. Maybe a mental breakdown. Maybe an abusive relationship. Maybe a doc got you hooked on oxy-contin for chronic pain. Maybe an illness. Maybe you're just a complete and total screw-up who blew through every opportunity - also a possibility, but not the only one. So we tell ourselves bedtimes stories. It's okay. I'll never lose everything. Poor people are that way for a reason, they deserve it, it's their own fault. I just won't be bad like that. It'll never happen to me. And the result is a social safety net with more holes than a motheaten coat.

"No drugs or alcohol for you, poor person. You can't handle it. Heck, you're probably an addict, anyway. Something wrong with you, that's for sure. Me, though, I'm a reprehensible person but I have a house. I deserve this beer. And everything else I have, that's for sure."
 
2019-02-18 11:27:48 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: And, ya know what?

gar1013: If you can't support yourself, then you don't need to be doing certain things.

This article partially concerns people who are homeless because AN ENORMOUS WILDFIRE BURNED UP THEIR HOUSES. They will be given some priority slots in the "no drugs or alcohol" tiny house village. "You need to adult harder" does not address a goddamn natural disaster.

It is just so fundamentally terrifying that one's success and security are luck-dependent, that no matter how many redundancies you put in place there are circumstances out there that can reduce you to living in a cardboard box and cashing in food stamps. Maybe a fire. Maybe a mental breakdown. Maybe an abusive relationship. Maybe a doc got you hooked on oxy-contin for chronic pain. Maybe an illness. Maybe you're just a complete and total screw-up who blew through every opportunity - also a possibility, but not the only one. So we tell ourselves bedtimes stories. It's okay. I'll never lose everything. Poor people are that way for a reason, they deserve it, it's their own fault. I just won't be bad like that. It'll never happen to me. And the result is a social safety net with more holes than a motheaten coat.

"No drugs or alcohol for you, poor person. You can't handle it. Heck, you're probably an addict, anyway. Something wrong with you, that's for sure. Me, though, I'm a reprehensible person but I have a house. I deserve this beer. And everything else I have, that's for sure."


You should calm down.
 
2019-02-18 11:32:11 PM  

gar1013: Tax breaks are not the same thing as literally being given money by the government.


A tiny house is not being given money by the government! It's a freakin' incentive, so people don't bug out of California because they can't find a house after the huge fire. So they will stay and rebuild their lives and spend their money there. Gee, not unlike Amazon, but not wealthy enough to make assholes like you drop trou and start fapping to the prospect of 25 million bajillion or whatever potential jobs which Amazon was not even willing to say would be local hires.

gar1013: Looks like AOC has a Fark account after all. Must be embarrassing when Bill DeBlasio has to educate you.


If you're trying to insult me, that's a bad pick. Why don't you school me, gar? You have the same qualifications as Bill, an internet connection and a reprehensible personality. Punch the poor some more, that plays real well with the base.
 
2019-02-18 11:42:29 PM  

DoBeDoBeLurk: And, ya know what?

gar1013: If you can't support yourself, then you don't need to be doing certain things.

This article partially concerns people who are homeless because AN ENORMOUS WILDFIRE BURNED UP THEIR HOUSES. They will be given some priority slots in the "no drugs or alcohol" tiny house village. "You need to adult harder" does not address a goddamn natural disaster.

It is just so fundamentally terrifying that one's success and security are luck-dependent, that no matter how many redundancies you put in place there are circumstances out there that can reduce you to living in a cardboard box and cashing in food stamps. Maybe a fire. Maybe a mental breakdown. Maybe an abusive relationship. Maybe a doc got you hooked on oxy-contin for chronic pain. Maybe an illness. Maybe you're just a complete and total screw-up who blew through every opportunity - also a possibility, but not the only one. So we tell ourselves bedtimes stories. It's okay. I'll never lose everything. Poor people are that way for a reason, they deserve it, it's their own fault. I just won't be bad like that. It'll never happen to me. And the result is a social safety net with more holes than a motheaten coat.

"No drugs or alcohol for you, poor person. You can't handle it. Heck, you're probably an addict, anyway. Something wrong with you, that's for sure. Me, though, I'm a reprehensible person but I have a house. I deserve this beer. And everything else I have, that's for sure."


They should have just raked the leaves away.  Or, better, they can come and live in my camper, it was 5 below last night, and there is 22 inches of snow on the ground, so I can guarantee you that there will not be a forest fire here this week.   But, I don't allow drugs, but you can do drink all you want, as long as you are not the driver.
 
2019-02-18 11:42:53 PM  
You know, these might be okay of they were allowed to sit on foundations. How much land do they get each? I could see them just being expanded the way normal houses often are.

The biggest problem is that they are required to be trailers. Why not just put down single-wides on foundations? Too big? Too expensive?
 
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