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(MSNBC)   We have just the person to cut through all the rhetoric and posturing on this Jussie Smollett business. (That's great. I hope it's not someone like Al Sharpton, though.) And here he is: (Please don't be Al Sharpton.) Al Sharpton. (NOOOOOOOOO)   (msnbc.com) divider line
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2019-02-18 08:11:42 AM  
In 20 years Jussie Smollet will be an MSNBC contributor...with lapband surgery?
 
2019-02-18 08:42:01 AM  

Chris Ween: In 20 years Jussie Smollet will be an MSNBC contributor...with lapband surgery?


Did... you just future fatshame someone... That's unique.
 
2019-02-18 08:52:37 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Chris Ween: In 20 years Jussie Smollet will be an MSNBC contributor...with lapband surgery?

Did... you just future fatshame someone... That's unique.


Thin shamed.  He looks...odd and wrong.   All that extra skin....and huge noggin.
 
2019-02-18 09:22:17 AM  
Video only? Kind some kind soul who risked life and limb to listen to what this knucklehead had to say give us a brief tl;dr version? Emphasize on the stupid and nonsensical that I'm sure was in it.
 
2019-02-18 09:23:22 AM  
I called it!  I said all along that what is happening would be exactly what is happening.  You all owe me.  I'm right again!
 
2019-02-18 09:27:24 AM  
I don't like to be cynical, but I really don't think the Reverend Al is going to bring anything helpful to this.
 
2019-02-18 09:29:15 AM  

Chris Ween: Shadow Blasko: Chris Ween: In 20 years Jussie Smollet will be an MSNBC contributor...with lapband surgery?

Did... you just future fatshame someone... That's unique.

Thin shamed.  He looks...odd and wrong.   All that extra skin....and huge noggin.


I think some people are just supposed to be rotund.
 
2019-02-18 09:30:17 AM  
Al Sharpton is a liar. Full stop.
 
2019-02-18 09:31:44 AM  

Shadow Blasko: Chris Ween: In 20 years Jussie Smollet will be an MSNBC contributor...with lapband surgery?

Did... you just future fatshame someone... That's unique.


I wish I had thought of that.

*shakes tiny fists*
 
2019-02-18 09:34:44 AM  
I have to agree with Al, he said it isn't a left wing or right wing thing since Donny Trump fell for it.  It actually is a matter of whether you are an idiot or not, and are you  stupid enough to fall for such an obvious scam.
 
2019-02-18 09:38:26 AM  

Eightballjacket: I have to agree with Al, he said it isn't a left wing or right wing thing since Donny Trump fell for it.  It actually is a matter of whether you are an idiot or not, and are you  stupid enough to fall for such an obvious scam.


Fark has a lot of idiots then.
 
2019-02-18 09:44:16 AM  

This text is now purple: Eightballjacket: I have to agree with Al, he said it isn't a left wing or right wing thing since Donny Trump fell for it.  It actually is a matter of whether you are an idiot or not, and are you  stupid enough to fall for such an obvious scam.

Fark has a lot of idiots then.


This is like the quintessential Fark post of all time.
 
2019-02-18 09:47:50 AM  
I don't even know why they are investigating this.  I thought you are always supposed to believe the victim 100% of the time regardless of every tenet of our justice system.

/ Next Step:  See what celebrities basically express remorse that a black man WASN'T attacked and beaten in the streets, because even though this time it didn't really happen, they are just sure it is happening all over the place and this will detract from hating Trump and (if you're Ellen Page) Mike Pence for fictional reasons.
 
2019-02-18 09:56:43 AM  
https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694290​.​pdf

There isn't a good source for false-positive numbers, but roughly 1% of applications are denied.

10% of rejected applications are investigated. 2/3rds of these are 3-day rejections. 1/3rd are delayed rejections, where the FBI took too long to get off their ass and the gun was transferred to someone who shouldn't have been approved. Standard rejections are essentially never prosecuted. Rough 13 in 10,000. Of delayed rejections, 1 in 100 result in charges. 25% of both sets result in convictions.

So 4 in 10,000 of standard rejections result in a conviction. 1% are rejected. Basically 4 in a million applicants will be convicted after the 3-day application review. This is attributed to investigators, prosecutors, judges, and juries all devaluing these cases and the fact that prosecutors usually can't prove intent (it's not a strict liability crime). Now, at each pruning step, false positives get pruned. Some of the 90% dropped are cases that weren't worth pursuing, but some are people who should have been approved. Some in the next 75%-99.9% prune are also false positives. I'm less inclined to think there are many false positives in the group actually brought to trial, but I can't prove otherwise. Your rights were still trampled upon, but usually it doesn't result in prosecution.
 
2019-02-18 09:57:19 AM  

This text is now purple: https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694290​.​pdf

There isn't a good source for false-positive numbers, but roughly 1% of applications are denied.

10% of rejected applications are investigated. 2/3rds of these are 3-day rejections. 1/3rd are delayed rejections, where the FBI took too long to get off their ass and the gun was transferred to someone who shouldn't have been approved. Standard rejections are essentially never prosecuted. Rough 13 in 10,000. Of delayed rejections, 1 in 100 result in charges. 25% of both sets result in convictions.

So 4 in 10,000 of standard rejections result in a conviction. 1% are rejected. Basically 4 in a million applicants will be convicted after the 3-day application review. This is attributed to investigators, prosecutors, judges, and juries all devaluing these cases and the fact that prosecutors usually can't prove intent (it's not a strict liability crime). Now, at each pruning step, false positives get pruned. Some of the 90% dropped are cases that weren't worth pursuing, but some are people who should have been approved. Some in the next 75%-99.9% prune are also false positives. I'm less inclined to think there are many false positives in the group actually brought to trial, but I can't prove otherwise. Your rights were still trampled upon, but usually it doesn't result in prosecution.


and here I posted in the wrong thread, proving fark is chock-full of idiots.
 
2019-02-18 09:57:42 AM  
Man this guy is in a lot of pain. I hope he gets help.
 
2019-02-18 10:01:32 AM  
jeez, yall can blame donald trump for anything.

I wonder if there is a 3 minute video of Sharpton speaking in the last year where whe does not mention Trump.
 
2019-02-18 10:11:25 AM  

I sound fat: jeez, yall can blame donald trump for anything.

I wonder if there is a 3 minute video of Sharpton speaking in the last year where whe does not mention Trump.


Most people dont listen to Sharpton's opinions. The only reason he gets on TV is because he would always call the station volunteering to come on. His opinions dont reflect a majority of people.
 
2019-02-18 10:11:50 AM  
Al needs to shut the fark up. The more that comes out about this whole sordid event, the worse it smells. The last thing it needs is the good reverend getting involved. Tawana Brawley should have been enough to keep him off TV for the rest of his life, but for some inexplicable reason, it wasn't.
 
2019-02-18 10:13:02 AM  

JolobinSmokin: Man this guy is in a lot of pain. I hope he gets help.


I bet if he looks hard enough, there's someone he can hire...
 
2019-02-18 10:15:42 AM  

Lupis626: JolobinSmokin: Man this guy is in a lot of pain. I hope he gets help.

I bet if he looks hard enough, there's someone he can hire...


I love fark. Guy is mentally unstable and it's funny and comes with jokes.

This is why I keep coming back here.
 
2019-02-18 10:18:52 AM  

Eightballjacket: I have to agree with Al, he said it isn't a left wing or right wing thing since Donny Trump fell for it.  It actually is a matter of whether you are an idiot or not, and are you  stupid enough to fall for such an obvious scam.


Wait.. Are you telling me Al Sharpton made sense for once?
 
2019-02-18 10:21:37 AM  

styckx: Eightballjacket: I have to agree with Al, he said it isn't a left wing or right wing thing since Donny Trump fell for it.  It actually is a matter of whether you are an idiot or not, and are you  stupid enough to fall for such an obvious scam.

Wait.. Are you telling me Al Sharpton made sense for once?


Blind squirrel. Acorn.
 
2019-02-18 10:44:43 AM  
I like his take that if this was perpetrated as a hoax, they need to be persecuted to the full extent of the law. If he wants to wait until more information comes out before making any further opinions of what happened, more power to him.

My eyes didn't roll out of my head after listening to one of his arguments for a change.
 
2019-02-18 10:50:07 AM  

jso2897: This text is now purple: Eightballjacket: I have to agree with Al, he said it isn't a left wing or right wing thing since Donny Trump fell for it.  It actually is a matter of whether you are an idiot or not, and are you  stupid enough to fall for such an obvious scam.

Fark has a lot of idiots then.

This is like the quintessential Fark post of all time.


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2019-02-18 10:57:25 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Al needs to shut the fark up. The more that comes out about this whole sordid event, the worse it smells. The last thing it needs is the good reverend getting involved. Tawana Brawley should have been enough to keep him off TV for the rest of his life, but for some inexplicable reason, it wasn't.


Considering his involvement in the Brawley fiasco* he is actually the perfect person to provide insight on fraudulent claims becoming a media circus.

*for which he was civilly sued but never actually paid a dime. It was paid in part by none other than.....Johnnie Cohrane!
 
2019-02-18 11:05:59 AM  
It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to.
 
2019-02-18 11:36:23 AM  

This text is now purple: This text is now purple: https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694290.​pdf

There isn't a good source for false-positive numbers, but roughly 1% of applications are denied.

10% of rejected applications are investigated. 2/3rds of these are 3-day rejections. 1/3rd are delayed rejections, where the FBI took too long to get off their ass and the gun was transferred to someone who shouldn't have been approved. Standard rejections are essentially never prosecuted. Rough 13 in 10,000. Of delayed rejections, 1 in 100 result in charges. 25% of both sets result in convictions.

So 4 in 10,000 of standard rejections result in a conviction. 1% are rejected. Basically 4 in a million applicants will be convicted after the 3-day application review. This is attributed to investigators, prosecutors, judges, and juries all devaluing these cases and the fact that prosecutors usually can't prove intent (it's not a strict liability crime). Now, at each pruning step, false positives get pruned. Some of the 90% dropped are cases that weren't worth pursuing, but some are people who should have been approved. Some in the next 75%-99.9% prune are also false positives. I'm less inclined to think there are many false positives in the group actually brought to trial, but I can't prove otherwise. Your rights were still trampled upon, but usually it doesn't result in prosecution.

and here I posted in the wrong thread, proving fark is chock-full of idiots.


i had a seven paragraph rebuttal prepared linking everything you said to the Jesse Smollet case before I realize you posted in the wrong thread.

Yep.
 
2019-02-18 11:40:44 AM  

disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to.


It takes a big man to admit he was wrong on fark.
 
2019-02-18 11:42:34 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: This text is now purple: This text is now purple: https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/694290.​pdf

There isn't a good source for false-positive numbers, but roughly 1% of applications are denied.

10% of rejected applications are investigated. 2/3rds of these are 3-day rejections. 1/3rd are delayed rejections, where the FBI took too long to get off their ass and the gun was transferred to someone who shouldn't have been approved. Standard rejections are essentially never prosecuted. Rough 13 in 10,000. Of delayed rejections, 1 in 100 result in charges. 25% of both sets result in convictions.

So 4 in 10,000 of standard rejections result in a conviction. 1% are rejected. Basically 4 in a million applicants will be convicted after the 3-day application review. This is attributed to investigators, prosecutors, judges, and juries all devaluing these cases and the fact that prosecutors usually can't prove intent (it's not a strict liability crime). Now, at each pruning step, false positives get pruned. Some of the 90% dropped are cases that weren't worth pursuing, but some are people who should have been approved. Some in the next 75%-99.9% prune are also false positives. I'm less inclined to think there are many false positives in the group actually brought to trial, but I can't prove otherwise. Your rights were still trampled upon, but usually it doesn't result in prosecution.

and here I posted in the wrong thread, proving fark is chock-full of idiots.

i had a seven paragraph rebuttal prepared linking everything you said to the Jesse Smollet case before I realize you posted in the wrong thread.

Yep.


Zardoz: Zardoz speaks to you, his chosen ones. You have been raised up from brutality, to kill the brutals who multiply, and are legion. To this end, Zardoz your god gave you the gift of the gun. The gun is good.
Exterminators:
The gun is good.
Zardoz: The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!

I mean, who are you of all people to argue with the flying head?
 
2019-02-18 12:14:40 PM  

This text is now purple: disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to.

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong on fark.


This is a day we shall remember forever. The day a man stood up on Fark and stated with conviction, "I WAS WRONG!" Years from now we will look back and proudly say, "I was there. I was logged in to Fark on that glorious day when disco ball bravely confessed his mistake! Let us all dare to be like him and admit to our misstatements! We few, we happy few, we band of Farkers; for he to-day that sought forgiveness for his errors as he did shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and those not logged in and now a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks of Disco Ball's Day."
 
2019-02-18 12:37:26 PM  

Slypork: This text is now purple: disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to.

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong on fark.

This is a day we shall remember forever. The day a man stood up on Fark and stated with conviction, "I WAS WRONG!" Years from now we will look back and proudly say, "I was there. I was logged in to Fark on that glorious day when disco ball bravely confessed his mistake! Let us all dare to be like him and admit to our misstatements! We few, we happy few, we band of Farkers; for he to-day that sought forgiveness for his errors as he did shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and those not logged in and now a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks of Disco Ball's Day."


LOL!
 
2019-02-18 12:38:42 PM  

HeadLever: I like his take that if this was perpetrated as a hoax, they need to be persecuted to the full extent of the law. If he wants to wait until more information comes out before making any further opinions of what happened, more power to him.

My eyes didn't roll out of my head after listening to one of his arguments for a change.


Except they should have, because he was responsible for pushing the Tawana Brawley rape hoax.
 
2019-02-18 12:46:42 PM  
Guy needs prison, not help.

Creating hatred for your own gain puts you up there with Trump and Miller and the scorn should be on par or greater.
 
2019-02-18 12:51:04 PM  
Well, it takes a race hustler to know a race hustler.  Might as well get commentary from an expert on the matter.

This Smollett idiot needs to spend some time in prison.
 
2019-02-18 12:55:55 PM  
It is funny how the need for patience and knowing all the facts is directly tied to whether or not the person with their feet to the fire is on "your side".  See Alyssa Milano and Asia Argento for another perfect example.
 
2019-02-18 01:00:33 PM  
disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to

I'm gay and on the gay blogs and boards I go to, this is a big deal. It's divided between "Farking liar, way to give us all a bad name" and "He's telling the truth! The homophobes got to the two witnesses and are paying those guys to lie!!!".

I'm just kind of baffled that anyone i.e. Jussie Smolllett who pays the least bit of attention to social media didn't realize that there would be CCTV's on every block, that the footage from them would cause problems later.
 
2019-02-18 01:08:24 PM  

Henry Holland: disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to

I'm gay and on the gay blogs and boards I go to, this is a big deal. It's divided between "Farking liar, way to give us all a bad name" and "He's telling the truth! The homophobes got to the two witnesses and are paying those guys to lie!!!".

I'm just kind of baffled that anyone i.e. Jussie Smolllett who pays the least bit of attention to social media didn't realize that there would be CCTV's on every block, that the footage from them would cause problems later.


If you're insane enough to pull something like this you may not be thinking things through very well overall
 
2019-02-18 01:19:02 PM  
 
2019-02-18 01:44:35 PM  

Eightballjacket: I have to agree with Al, he said it isn't a left wing or right wing thing since Donny Trump fell for it.  It actually is a matter of whether you are an idiot or not, and are you  stupid enough to fall for such an obvious scam.


So the Rev Sharpie didn't fall for it?  Or is an idiot?

/Or both?
 
2019-02-18 01:47:47 PM  

I sound fat: jeez, yall can blame donald trump for anything.

I wonder if there is a 3 minute video of Sharpton speaking in the last year where whe does not mention Trump.


I wonder if there is a clip where he does mention Tawans Brawley.

/no?  Then he can fark right off, lying scammer; he does more to promote racism than any man in America.
 
2019-02-18 01:55:21 PM  

Henry Holland: disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to

I'm gay and on the gay blogs and boards I go to, this is a big deal. It's divided between "Farking liar, way to give us all a bad name" and "He's telling the truth! The homophobes got to the two witnesses and are paying those guys to lie!!!".

I'm just kind of baffled that anyone i.e. Jussie Smolllett who pays the least bit of attention to social media didn't realize that there would be CCTV's on every block, that the footage from them would cause problems later.


I imagine that he just assumed that no one would question what must be a given in the bubble in which he lives. He no doubt thought,  "Who will wonder whether or not Trump supporters would bash a gay black man?"
One of the strangest theories I heard mentioned, from Adam Corolla I think, was that Smollett got those scratches on his face earlier that evening at a club during a fight with his boyfriend over another man.

/the homophobic humor many love to hear is going to be even more prevalent now
 
2019-02-18 02:09:01 PM  
I feel the most reprehensible thing about this is his collusion with the Nigerian scammers.
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2019-02-18 02:10:39 PM  

Slypork: This text is now purple: disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to.

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong on fark.

This is a day we shall remember forever. The day a man stood up on Fark and stated with conviction, "I WAS WRONG!" Years from now we will look back and proudly say, "I was there. I was logged in to Fark on that glorious day when disco ball bravely confessed his mistake! Let us all dare to be like him and admit to our misstatements! We few, we happy few, we band of Farkers; for he to-day that sought forgiveness for his errors as he did shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and those not logged in and now a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks of Disco Ball's Day."


He sounds fat..
 
2019-02-18 02:11:49 PM  

wellreadneck: One of the strangest theories I heard mentioned, from Adam Corolla I think, was that Smollett got those scratches on his face earlier that evening at a club during a fight with his boyfriend over another man.


That "strangest theory" is much more likely to be true than anything in the original account.
 
2019-02-18 02:41:12 PM  

DiggityDynomite: I feel the most reprehensible thing about this is his collusion with the Nigerian scammers.
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2019-02-18 02:51:01 PM  
From Tawana Brawley to Tawana Smolley and 250 lbs later; what a crazy ride it has been!
 
2019-02-18 03:15:47 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Al needs to shut the fark up. The more that comes out about this whole sordid event, the worse it smells. The last thing it needs is the good reverend getting involved. Tawana Brawley should have been enough to keep him off TV for the rest of his life, but for some inexplicable reason, it wasn't.


Back in the day...
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When shell suits were all the sexy...
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...even for obese, medallion-wearing black men with culturally appropriated hair styles, apparently.
 
2019-02-18 03:28:52 PM  
Don't blame these poor fools. They're just following the hypocrite's creed:

"This is my hypocritical judgment. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My hypocritical judgment is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My hypocritical judgment, without me, is still pretty potent. Without my hypocritical judgment, I am useless. I must fire my hypocritical judgment true. I must lob my baseless accusations straighter than my enemy who is trying to destroy my reputation and my credibility. I must hypocritically judge and accuse them before they hypocritically judge and accuse me.

My hypocritical judgment and I know that what counts in this war of words is not the empty rhetoric we spew, the noise our face holes make, nor the chaos we create. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit. My hypocritical judgment is inhumane, even as I, because it is nothing but half-truths and lies.

Thus, I will learn to use it against anyone and everyone, including my own brethren, if need be. I will learn their weaknesses, their strengths, their vulnerable parts, and put them all squarely in my sights. I will ever guard my hypocritical judgment against facts, truth, and the consequences of my actions.

I will keep my hypocritical judgment sharp and ready. We will become a part of each other. Before myself, I swear this creed. My hypocritical judgment and myself are the defenders of my political, social, and personal bias. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of the lives we deem worth saving. So be it, until victory is my political and social group's and there is no enemy... until I create new ones out of unsuspecting people with opinions and beliefs that differ from mine."
 
2019-02-18 03:30:56 PM  

This text is now purple: disco ball: It looks like I wrongly defended Mr. Smollett. I apologize to any of you I gave a hard time to.

It takes a big man to admit he was wrong on fark.


To paraphrase Jack Handey, it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man

/I kid!  Well done, disco ball!
 
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