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(Mother Jones)   Do you know it costs about 50 times more to make a call from an Illinois jail than the Illinois State Prison? Yeah, Jake Blues is pissed too   (motherjones.com) divider line
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2019-02-16 02:20:03 PM  
Anyone in jail that hasn't been convicted should be able to call for free.  They're innocent until proven guilty and should have full, un-timed access to their lawyer and family.
 
2019-02-16 02:23:30 PM  
No wonder jails hate cell phones, it cuts into their scam.
 
2019-02-16 02:24:13 PM  
For the 35% who have been convicted and are in jail...

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2019-02-16 02:25:17 PM  
In the Tijuana jail you only get mail.
 
2019-02-16 02:27:08 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: No wonder jails hate cell phones, it cuts into their scam.


They should just get TotalFark.

Thanks, man!
 
2019-02-16 02:27:35 PM  
They're usually made collect anyway, aren't they?
 
2019-02-16 02:38:33 PM  
He ran out of gas!
He got a flat tire!
He didn't have change for cab fare!
He  lost his tux at the cleaners!
He locked his keys in the car!
An old friend came in from out of town!
Someone stole his car!
There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts!

IT'S NOT HIS FAULT!
 
2019-02-16 03:25:17 PM  
Look if you're not going to grift, what's even the point.

/where do these scam charges go. Who benefits
 
2019-02-16 04:06:26 PM  

italie: They're usually made collect anyway, aren't they?


So now you're punishing people who weren't even considered for a crime, much less convicted.  How is that better?
 
2019-02-16 04:43:55 PM  

phalamir: italie: They're usually made collect anyway, aren't they?

So now you're punishing people who weren't even considered for a crime, much less convicted.  How is that better?



Didn't say it was better. I was just saying.
 
2019-02-16 05:04:09 PM  
I sure do. Phones are the biggest source of complaints from the offenders on my caseload; now that it's cheaper, they can make more calls and there are more issues. Plus, they can do video visits now--but those are pricey. The prisons make no money whatsoever off the phones. The jails, though...
 
2019-02-16 05:40:44 PM  
Joliet Jake was in the state pen though.
 
2019-02-16 06:11:27 PM  

Cagey B: Joliet Jake was in the state pen though.


He spent some in Cook county, Elwood too. They're on a mission from god.
 
2019-02-16 06:13:12 PM  

The English Major: I sure do. Phones are the biggest source of complaints from the offenders on my caseload; now that it's cheaper, they can make more calls and there are more issues. Plus, they can do video visits now--but those are pricey. The prisons make no money whatsoever off the phones. The jails, though...


Skype video calls are not expensive and can be set to record
 
2019-02-16 06:14:59 PM  
There's a huge difference in velocity between the two operations.  The loss of operating leverage requires a much higher gross margin to achieve similar target ROI's.

/ It's all business in the criminal justice business.
 
2019-02-16 06:30:08 PM  
When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.
 
2019-02-16 06:31:25 PM  
#blackthugsproblem
#whitemethheadsproblems
 
2019-02-16 06:31:52 PM  
https://www.keefegroup.com/

These bastards have a lock down on many facilities. From phone calls to toothpaste to probation. You WILL pay them in some form or fashion. And they are just one of the players in the game.
 
2019-02-16 06:33:22 PM  
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2019-02-16 06:34:21 PM  

Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.


Jesus Christ, Dude.

Well anyway, when I was in jail, phone calls were unlimited and free. It's not like it costs them anything.
 
2019-02-16 06:39:14 PM  
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I'm skipping out on rainbow horseshoes, my work is done
 
2019-02-16 07:11:09 PM  

Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.


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2019-02-16 07:17:04 PM  

Gubbo: Look if you're not going to grift, what's even the point.

/where do these scam charges go. Who benefits


Someone's cousin/brother/relative who owns the company that's providing services. That's generally how it works.
 
2019-02-16 07:17:16 PM  

Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.


Next up, in "things that make people feel better about their lives by comparison"...
 
2019-02-16 07:21:45 PM  

The English Major: I sure do. Phones are the biggest source of complaints from the offenders on my caseload; now that it's cheaper, they can make more calls and there are more issues. Plus, they can do video visits now--but those are pricey. The prisons make no money whatsoever off the phones. The jails, though...


I don't buy that. They make a profit in everything they do. I know some people in jail and their mothers are paying out bucks to fund BS pricing on phone and misc items. Like some churches, It's a scam... er... business, and business is good.
 
2019-02-16 07:27:27 PM  
It's stuff like this that really need to be addressed in the system. But these are hard issues to gain any traction on because no one wants to seem to be coddling criminals, regardless of what they did or what scams are being run on them as a result. Fortunately, things have gotten so bad that politicians are beginning to wade into the problems, but there's so many and they run so deep that I don't have much hope of real reform before the winds change again and everyone is trying to out-do each other with how tough on crime they are.
 
2019-02-16 07:35:41 PM  

2farknfunny: There's a huge difference in velocity between the two operations.  The loss of operating leverage requires a much higher gross margin to achieve similar target ROI's.

/ It's all business in the criminal justice business.


Username doesn't check out as much as you think.
 
2019-02-16 07:37:49 PM  
Reason number 3,695,337 why Illinois sucks.

/god I hate it here
 
2019-02-16 08:09:47 PM  

TorpedoOrca: The English Major: I sure do. Phones are the biggest source of complaints from the offenders on my caseload; now that it's cheaper, they can make more calls and there are more issues. Plus, they can do video visits now--but those are pricey. The prisons make no money whatsoever off the phones. The jails, though...

Skype video calls are not expensive and can be set to record


Everything is recorded...
 
2019-02-16 08:11:28 PM  

Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.


I'm going to use this story in my research paper analyzing mean falling distance between apples and trees.
 
2019-02-16 08:14:04 PM  

downstairs: Anyone in jail that hasn't been convicted should be able to call for free.  They're innocent until proven guilty and should have full, un-timed access to their lawyer and family.


I'd give all prisoners say 10 numbers they can call for free and reasonable rates for all other numbers.  We shouldn't be financially abusing prisoners, period.
 
2019-02-16 08:26:36 PM  

The English Major: TorpedoOrca: The English Major: I sure do. Phones are the biggest source of complaints from the offenders on my caseload; now that it's cheaper, they can make more calls and there are more issues. Plus, they can do video visits now--but those are pricey. The prisons make no money whatsoever off the phones. The jails, though...

Skype video calls are not expensive and can be set to record

Everything is recorded...


Can you please tell me where the hell I left my car keys?
 
2019-02-16 08:33:34 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: The English Major: TorpedoOrca: The English Major: I sure do. Phones are the biggest source of complaints from the offenders on my caseload; now that it's cheaper, they can make more calls and there are more issues. Plus, they can do video visits now--but those are pricey. The prisons make no money whatsoever off the phones. The jails, though...

Skype video calls are not expensive and can be set to record

Everything is recorded...

Can you please tell me where the hell I left my car keys?


In the bag near the door.
 
2019-02-16 09:12:41 PM  

italie: They're usually made collect anyway, aren't they?


Not anymore. It's an online/phone card system.
 
2019-02-16 09:14:12 PM  

Gubbo: Look if you're not going to grift, what's even the point.

/where do these scam charges go. Who benefits


The jails get a cut of the % by only allowing one MAYBE two companies to run through their system. They tell the inmates or their loved ones where and how to apply money, calls get made, jail gets paid.
 
2019-02-16 09:23:08 PM  
It's ridiculous that, in this day and age  anyone can get away with charging someone to use the phone. It's not like the old days when Ma Bell had a monopoly on long distance phone. With the Internet it's virtually free. To charge prisoners for it is just heinous.
 
2019-02-16 10:28:56 PM  

Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.


I fully understand where you are coming from.  My step-daughter was completely out of control when she hit her teen years (drugs, alcohol, ditching school, etc).  If her mother would have simply slapped her across her mouthy little face, just once, a whole lot of issues might have been avoided.  It had to be her mother, definitely not me, for it to matter.  Unfortunately, her mother was more interested in being her best friend than in being her mother.  Last I heard the little biatch got tossed in jail as an adult.  I don't know the charge, but I would guess it was drug related.

/Yes, I'm divorced
 
2019-02-16 11:26:52 PM  
Usually anyone with a bond amount gets numerous free phone calls upon arrival in jail.  After that, they can call collect or have a friend/family member set up a paid account on their personal phone to accept calls.  This is quite expensive and set up through a third party service.  We usually encourage inmates to write letters and utilize visits to exchange information.  (Most have never written a letter in their lives.... it's quite intimidating at first for them.)

I imagine that most jails prefer the expensive, third party service due to it keeping the number/length of calls down.  Having inmates sitting by phones all day calling any number they can think of out of pure boredom can be distracting to operations in the jail.  The younger ones are so used to having their cell phones glued to their hand 24/7, they tend to want to be on the phone all the time, but quickly run out of things to say.

Many jails have implemented tablets for email (usually a fee per email), video conferences, voice mail left for inmates (also a fee per message) and other means to keep the phones from being the only means of communication.

Inmates can generally meet face to face with lawyers whenever needed for court reasons.

Summary:  There is plenty of communication for jail inmates with the outside world.
 
2019-02-16 11:53:30 PM  

swahnhennessy: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: The English Major: TorpedoOrca: The English Major: I sure do. Phones are the biggest source of complaints from the offenders on my caseload; now that it's cheaper, they can make more calls and there are more issues. Plus, they can do video visits now--but those are pricey. The prisons make no money whatsoever off the phones. The jails, though...

Skype video calls are not expensive and can be set to record

Everything is recorded...

Can you please tell me where the hell I left my car keys?

In the bag near the door.


Kitchen counter behind the half-eaten bag of almond M&Ms. You forgot to seal the bag.
 
2019-02-17 04:27:29 AM  

Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.


do you now live in tennessee?
 
2019-02-17 04:30:26 AM  

OgreMagi: Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.

I fully understand where you are coming from.  My step-daughter was completely out of control when she hit her teen years (drugs, alcohol, ditching school, etc).  If her mother would have simply slapped her across her mouthy little face, just once, a whole lot of issues might have been avoided.  It had to be her mother, definitely not me, for it to matter.  Unfortunately, her mother was more interested in being her best friend than in being her mother.  Last I heard the little biatch got tossed in jail as an adult.  I don't know the charge, but I would guess it was drug related.

/Yes, I'm divorced


although i can understand the line of thinking; what may also have happened is setting a new standard of behaviour for getting what you think you need/want

(instead of a mouthy drug addict, a violent mouthy drug addict)
 
2019-02-17 04:42:18 AM  

zjoik: OgreMagi: Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.

I fully understand where you are coming from.  My step-daughter was completely out of control when she hit her teen years (drugs, alcohol, ditching school, etc).  If her mother would have simply slapped her across her mouthy little face, just once, a whole lot of issues might have been avoided.  It had to be her mother, definitely not me, for it to matter.  Unfortunately, her mother was more interested in being her best friend than in being her mother.  Last I heard the little biatch got tossed in jail as an adult.  I don't know the charge, but I would guess it was drug related.

/Yes, I'm divorced

although i can understand the line of thinking; what may also have happened is setting a new standard of behaviour for getting what you think you need/want

(instead of a mouthy drug addict, a violent mouthy drug addict)


She was already violent.
 
2019-02-17 08:16:00 AM  
They should have to use carrier pigeons.....cry me a river, if you wanted to make a phone call, your dumb ass should not have broken the law and been thrown in jail.
 
2019-02-17 08:55:22 AM  

irocu88: They should have to use carrier pigeons.....cry me a river, if you wanted to make a phone call, your dumb ass should not have broken the law and been thrown in jail.


So the whole innocent until proven guilty and right to legal counsel should really just be suggestions and not laws.
 
2019-02-17 09:42:56 AM  

Mugato: So the whole innocent until proven guilty and right to legal counsel should really just be suggestions and not laws


That's what bail is for......if you are in jail awaiting trial its not a matter of "if" you broke the law, its to what extent......so yea, sucks to be you. So if you want sympathy, you will have to look between shiat and syphilis in the dictionary.
 
2019-02-17 11:20:10 AM  

Mugato: irocu88: They should have to use carrier pigeons.....cry me a river, if you wanted to make a phone call, your dumb ass should not have broken the law and been thrown in jail.

So the whole innocent until proven guilty and right to legal counsel should really just be suggestions and not laws.


Legal counsel will gladly come and visit you, travel time is billable
 
2019-02-17 04:14:05 PM  

irocu88: Mugato: So the whole innocent until proven guilty and right to legal counsel should really just be suggestions and not laws

That's what bail is for......if you are in jail awaiting trial its not a matter of "if" you broke the law, its to what extent......so yea, sucks to be you. So if you want sympathy, you will have to look between shiat and syphilis in the dictionary.


Poverty is a crime, eh?
 
2019-02-17 07:37:22 PM  

OgreMagi: zjoik: OgreMagi: Ex-Texan: When my Mom was in jail, family members asked me to chip in to get her  phone card. I thought:"Well i don't want to talk to her", so no. She wound up just getting released from jail after a couple months. She set her house on fire, and I'm thinking with her behavior a delusional rants, if my Dad, before he divorced her, should have just taken th time to knock the fark out of her, at least once, it would help her. Now I don't condone violence, never hit my kids or my Wife, but I think in that case it would have served to straighten her out.
Now she lives i an apartment, so if she sets fire to that, I hope she does it well. No survivors.

I fully understand where you are coming from.  My step-daughter was completely out of control when she hit her teen years (drugs, alcohol, ditching school, etc).  If her mother would have simply slapped her across her mouthy little face, just once, a whole lot of issues might have been avoided.  It had to be her mother, definitely not me, for it to matter.  Unfortunately, her mother was more interested in being her best friend than in being her mother.  Last I heard the little biatch got tossed in jail as an adult.  I don't know the charge, but I would guess it was drug related.

/Yes, I'm divorced

although i can understand the line of thinking; what may also have happened is setting a new standard of behaviour for getting what you think you need/want

(instead of a mouthy drug addict, a violent mouthy drug addict)

She was already violent.


damn, glad you got out of that
 
2019-02-18 04:24:15 AM  

irocu88: They should have to use carrier pigeons.....cry me a river, if you wanted to make a phone call, your dumb ass should not have broken the law and been thrown in jail.


Because no innocent person has ever been arrested, right?
 
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