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(Washington Post)   Realizing the V word is a turn-off to the mainstream, vegan restaurants, vegan suppliers, and vegan thought leaders successfully rebranded their cuisine as "plant-based," which cleverly evokes warm memories of farms, greenery, and french fries   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2019-02-16 12:43:43 PM  
Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.
 
2019-02-16 12:53:28 PM  
I assumed "plant based" included beef, because cows eat grass, so they're plant based.

This isn't brain surgery, people.
 
2019-02-16 12:55:39 PM  

MrBallou: I assumed "plant based" included beef, because cows eat grass, so they're plant based.

This isn't brain surgery, people.


So I'm vegetarian by proxy? Sweet!
 
2019-02-16 01:09:32 PM  

harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.


This seems about right. Don't pretend that something a burger or bacon. Just be your own tasty thing
 
2019-02-16 01:23:57 PM  
But french fries taste better when cooked in animal fat.  Then again, so does everything else

/ bacon grease popcorn FTW
 
2019-02-16 01:24:55 PM  

harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.


Agreed.  I only discovered a few years ago that I really like the taste of sweet red peppers.  But if someone had given me a sweet red pepper based burger, bklech.
 
2019-02-16 01:31:23 PM  

harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.


I have never understood that. Like, why turn your food to resemble something you protest? Because you still want to kinda resemble what the normies eat?

I mean, do what you want. Free country. But still ...
 
2019-02-16 01:31:45 PM  

ltnor: MrBallou: I assumed "plant based" included beef, because cows eat grass, so they're plant based.

This isn't brain surgery, people.

So I'm vegetarian by proxy? Sweet!


Oh great, now you are going to tell everybody.
 
2019-02-16 01:43:09 PM  

grokca: ltnor: MrBallou: I assumed "plant based" included beef, because cows eat grass, so they're plant based.

This isn't brain surgery, people.

So I'm vegetarian by proxy? Sweet!

Oh great, now you are going to tell everybody.


I'm vegetarian by proxy, you should really give it a try. You will so good about everything.
 
2019-02-16 02:14:07 PM  
F*cking Vegans.
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2019-02-16 02:23:07 PM  
I just drank a plant-based beer in the bath while watching Polar. I feel so virtuous.

Wait! Do yeast count as animals?
 
2019-02-16 02:30:26 PM  

rwhamann: But french fries taste better when cooked in animal fat.  Then again, so does everything else

/ bacon grease popcorn FTW


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2019-02-16 02:53:15 PM  

thealgorerhythm: I just drank a plant-based beer in the bath while watching Polar. I feel so virtuous.

Wait! Do yeast count as animals?


Actually, the alcohol is yeast pee.
 
2019-02-16 03:16:22 PM  

harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.


Well, I actually like some Veggie Burgers. We can still use 'burger' right?
Burger King used to have a great veggie burger. I'd get it just because I liked it and it packed more protein than a meat burger. 9g vs 19 g of protein for less calories.

Anyhow...it sucks now. They used to throw it on the grill too cook it..and "SOME PEOPLE" complained because it touched something that touched meat.
Now, they heat it in a microwave. And it limp, and sucks. You can still special order it...but try doing that through the drive in speaker  and you challenge the 17 yo with something outside of their work comfort zone.
 
2019-02-16 03:37:04 PM  
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2019-02-16 03:50:56 PM  
I love veggie topped pizza more than a meat topped pizza at times because I have had a meat topped pizza so often, but I wouldn't want a fake meat topping pizza that was really veggies. Either be a veggie or don't, but quit pretending. Talk about identity issues.

and I will sometimes put a vegetarian order in just to try something different and find it's pretty good..but if you miss eating meat..just eat it.
 
2019-02-16 04:14:26 PM  

thealgorerhythm: I just drank a plant-based beer in the bath while watching Polar. I feel so virtuous.

Wait! Do yeast count as animals?


No, yeast are in the Fungi kingdom.  I upset a vegan GF when I told her yeast were not plants.  She ate brewer's yeast for the B vitamins.  Had a bit of a fight when I explained they were not animals either.  The makeup sex was good.
 
2019-02-16 04:15:43 PM  
When I throw a roast on top of a bed of taters and veggies for the last hour of cooking, does that count as a "plant-base?"
 
2019-02-16 04:33:38 PM  

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Damn!! Beat be to it.
 
2019-02-16 04:34:34 PM  
 
2019-02-16 04:35:00 PM  
Damn!! How do you post a gif?
 
2019-02-16 04:40:20 PM  

ababyatemydingo: Damn!! How do you post a gif?


Click on that little button on the reply window that has a sun and mountains. You can put your link in there and preview it.
 
2019-02-16 04:58:51 PM  
Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.
 
2019-02-16 05:11:47 PM  

PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.


I'd never heard the term myself so I looked it up and found this.

As far as I can tell it's for people who don't think simply being sanctimoniously vegan makes them quite insufferable enough.
 
2019-02-16 05:17:39 PM  
This is a plant

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Therefore this is a plant-based food

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2019-02-16 05:35:44 PM  
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2019-02-16 05:47:20 PM  

HawgWild: harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.

I have never understood that. Like, why turn your food to resemble something you protest? Because you still want to kinda resemble what the normies eat?

I mean, do what you want. Free country. But still ...


Because it's not reasonable to expect restaurants to have a completely separate veggie menu outside of a different patty, and it's even less reasonable to expect it at a backyard BBQ.  I just want to have a "burger" or whatever sometimes and not feel completely ostracized.  I'm not protesting burgers over the concept of forming a patty and putting it onto a bun.  I just don't want to kill a cow for it.
 
2019-02-16 06:10:40 PM  
As usual, the whining about vegetarians people outweigh the whining vegetarians.

/Eats meat
 
2019-02-16 06:11:46 PM  

PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."
"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?
"Clean food." Please.


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2019-02-16 06:19:20 PM  
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2019-02-16 06:24:14 PM  
I'm an omnivore and really like some of the veggie burgers. Had a gal at a restaurant once that actually didn't want to accept my order of a veggie burger with bacon on it. She said, "what's the point?"

I said, "I'm not a goddamn vegetarian, ok? Just put the friggin bacon on that thing. That's the friggin point"
 
2019-02-16 06:31:19 PM  

Gordon Bennett: As far as I can tell it's for people who don't think simply being sanctimoniously vegan makes them quite insufferable enough.


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2019-02-16 06:45:22 PM  

harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.


So deep!  Now explain why not eating animals does not, for some reason, relieve you of the guilt you might feel if you ate animals.

Difficulty: no Trumpspeak

/I eat meat, but I wish I didn't like it so well.  I have gotten to know various meat animals personally, and the little twinge of guilt I feel when eating them does not arise from psychosis or neurosis.  It arises from having noticed that they are every bit as happy to not be killed for food as any dog or cat.  Feel free to take a crack at convincing me otherwise, but you'd better be a dog-eater or I will probably mock you again, for hypocrisy if nothing else.  Please do not be pathetic enough to insist that pets are completely different from meat animals.

The only animals we keep (deliberately) on our farm are bees... If you want to mock vegans for refusing to eat honey, I'm with you on that
 
2019-02-16 07:38:28 PM  

PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.


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2019-02-16 07:50:44 PM  

MrBallou: I assumed "plant based" included beef, because cows eat grass, so they're plant based.

This isn't brain surgery, people.


You can make "plant based" plastic that is indistinguishable from petroleum based plastic.
 
2019-02-16 07:53:11 PM  

Gordon Bennett: PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.

I'd never heard the term myself so I looked it up and found this.

As far as I can tell it's for people who don't think simply being sanctimoniously vegan makes them quite insufferable enough.


It's trendy enough to be a buzzword for semi-fast food now:
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2019-02-16 08:02:37 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: Gordon Bennett: PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.

I'd never heard the term myself so I looked it up and found this.

As far as I can tell it's for people who don't think simply being sanctimoniously vegan makes them quite insufferable enough.

It's trendy enough to be a buzzword for semi-fast food now:
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That pretty funny considering bread is, by definition of "clean food", not clean.
 
2019-02-16 08:05:50 PM  

Gordon Bennett: PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.

I'd never heard the term myself so I looked it up and found this.

As far as I can tell it's for people who don't think simply being sanctimoniously vegan makes them quite insufferable enough.


Some of those make sense.  But then there's this:

Clean foods contain just one or two ingredients. Any product with a long ingredient list is human-made and not considered part of a clean diet.

About that...

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2019-02-16 08:06:37 PM  

PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.


Sandy Mangina is my Amy Winehouse drag act.
 
2019-02-16 08:06:54 PM  

Wizzbang: ababyatemydingo: Damn!! How do you post a gif?

Click on that little button on the reply window that has a sun and mountains. You can put your link in there and preview it.


Thx!!
 
2019-02-16 08:08:07 PM  

NakedDrummer: That pretty funny considering bread is, by definition of "clean food", not clean.


I haven't been in Panera for a while, but I got the feeling they want to get away from bread anyway, kind of like Dunkin Donuts would prefer not to sell you donuts. Bread is a lot of hassle to bake fresh and it goes stale, and so on. Kale and stuff at least keeps for a few days.
 
2019-02-16 08:14:07 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Gordon Bennett: PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.

I'd never heard the term myself so I looked it up and found this.

As far as I can tell it's for people who don't think simply being sanctimoniously vegan makes them quite insufferable enough.

Some of those make sense.  But then there's this:

Clean foods contain just one or two ingredients. Any product with a long ingredient list is human-made and not considered part of a clean diet.

About that...

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And the guy in the kitchen had that banana in his ass yesterday
 
2019-02-16 08:19:25 PM  
"shrugs" it's just smart marketing.  "Vegan" implies a lifestyle, "plant based" doesn't.
 
2019-02-16 08:25:12 PM  

harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.


According to a vegetarian I work with*, the fake meats are more for people early in the process of going vegetarian/vegan.  It's like how a lot of people quit smoking but occasionally suck on a vaporizer robot's penis.

*I worked with him for 3 years before even knowing he was a vegetarian.
 
2019-02-16 08:29:43 PM  

cousin-merle: HawgWild: harleyquinnical: Just stop trying to make plants taste and feel like meat.  If you are that guilt ridden about eating meat, see a psychologist to work through your issues. Eating "plant-based cuisine" will not help you with your guilt.

I have never understood that. Like, why turn your food to resemble something you protest? Because you still want to kinda resemble what the normies eat?

I mean, do what you want. Free country. But still ...

Because it's not reasonable to expect restaurants to have a completely separate veggie menu outside of a different patty, and it's even less reasonable to expect it at a backyard BBQ.  I just want to have a "burger" or whatever sometimes and not feel completely ostracized.  I'm not protesting burgers over the concept of forming a patty and putting it onto a bun.  I just don't want to kill a cow for it.


Nobody kills cows for the hamburgers, they get killed for the steaks sirloin/tenderloin/flat iron etc..., the ground chuck and other hamburger meat is just making sure nothing goes to waste.
 
2019-02-16 08:49:21 PM  

Gordon Bennett: PunkTiger: Veganism is one thing, but what has really been sanding my mangina in recent months is the term "clean food."

"We only serve clean food in this restaurant." As opposed to what, serving things you've swept off the floor? Has the kale been rinsed with bleach? Taken a Brillo pad to the potatoes and carrots? Serving Lysol smoothies?

"Clean food." Please.

I'd never heard the term myself so I looked it up and found this.

As far as I can tell it's for people who don't think simply being sanctimoniously vegan makes them quite insufferable enough.


Some of those things are common sense - sigh.

But "drink at least two liters of water a day" - has been debunked. It's not that you *shouldn't*, but you don't *need* to. If your pee is pale yellow to transparent, you're getting enough water.
 
2019-02-16 09:02:19 PM  

knobmaker: So deep!  Now explain why not eating animals does not, for some reason, relieve you of the guilt you might feel if you ate animals.

Difficulty: no Trumpspeak

/I eat meat, but I wish I didn't like it so well.  I have gotten to know various meat animals personally, and the little twinge of guilt I feel when eating them does not arise from psychosis or neurosis.  It arises from having noticed that they are every bit as happy to not be killed for food as any dog or cat.  Feel free to take a crack at convincing me otherwise, but you'd better be a dog-eater or I will probably mock you again, for hypocrisy if nothing else.  Please do not be pathetic enough to insist that pets are completely different from meat animals.

The only animals we keep (deliberately) on our farm are bees... If you want to mock vegans for refusing to eat honey, I'm with you on that


I've actually got nothing against vegetarians or vegans, and used to frequent a Chinese restaurant that shared a building with a veterinarian... so I'd say there's a 50/50 on my being a dog/cat eater... also, I'm not particularly fond of cats.

But there are several differences between dogs and livestock.  You don't read about cows pulling people out of house fires, nor do you read about chickens attacking a goddamn bear because it's person is in trouble.  Dogs are loyal to the point where they knowingly risk/sacrifice their own lives on our behalf.

Then there's the fact that our distant ancestors formed an alliance with their more distant ancestors.  Their noses and ears kept countless humans alive over the tens of thousands of years since we formed the pact.  At this point we've probably been somewhat bred to like dogs because the people that didn't less likely to make it and disadvantaged at hunting.

Finally, they're pack animals, like use.  Our relationship is tribal if not familial.  We're both complex social animals.  It's one thing for a cow to have feelings, it's another for your dog to realize you're sad and put it's head on your lap.
 
2019-02-16 09:14:06 PM  

electricjebus: knobmaker: So deep!  Now explain why not eating animals does not, for some reason, relieve you of the guilt you might feel if you ate animals.

Difficulty: no Trumpspeak

/I eat meat, but I wish I didn't like it so well.  I have gotten to know various meat animals personally, and the little twinge of guilt I feel when eating them does not arise from psychosis or neurosis.  It arises from having noticed that they are every bit as happy to not be killed for food as any dog or cat.  Feel free to take a crack at convincing me otherwise, but you'd better be a dog-eater or I will probably mock you again, for hypocrisy if nothing else.  Please do not be pathetic enough to insist that pets are completely different from meat animals.

The only animals we keep (deliberately) on our farm are bees... If you want to mock vegans for refusing to eat honey, I'm with you on that

I've actually got nothing against vegetarians or vegans, and used to frequent a Chinese restaurant that shared a building with a veterinarian... so I'd say there's a 50/50 on my being a dog/cat eater... also, I'm not particularly fond of cats.

But there are several differences between dogs and livestock.  You don't read about cows pulling people out of house fires, nor do you read about chickens attacking a goddamn bear because it's person is in trouble.  Dogs are loyal to the point where they knowingly risk/sacrifice their own lives on our behalf.

Then there's the fact that our distant ancestors formed an alliance with their more distant ancestors.  Their noses and ears kept countless humans alive over the tens of thousands of years since we formed the pact.  At this point we've probably been somewhat bred to like dogs because the people that didn't less likely to make it and disadvantaged at hunting.

Finally, they're pack animals, like use.  Our relationship is tribal if not familial.  We're both complex social animals.  It's one thing for a cow to have feelings, it's another for your dog to realize yo ...


Pigs are smarter than dogs.

Unfortunately they are far more tasty.

Also, our attachment to cats is absurd, those little monsters would kill us in a second if the tables were turned.
 
2019-02-16 09:44:13 PM  

lilplatinum: our attachment to cats is absurd, those little monsters would kill us in a second if the tables were turned.


Cats (and dogs) are fine. It's people that suck.
 
2019-02-17 12:38:09 AM  
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