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2019-02-16 04:15:45 AM  
Where am I going to get my size 15s?
 
2019-02-16 06:01:10 AM  

Coelacanth: Where am I going to get my size 15s?


Maybe Burlington? I was in one yesterday and the women's shoes went up to 13, never saw that before.
 
2019-02-16 06:33:51 AM  

Coelacanth: Where am I going to get my size 15s?


I had a difficult time finding 11.5 shopping P. And the dollar being worth a dime their prices weren't all that wonderful.
 
2019-02-16 08:14:40 AM  

Coelacanth: Where am I going to get my size 15s?


online?

/I have weird feet too
//Converse sneakers are the only casual footwear that fit me right. I just wished they lasted longer.
 
2019-02-16 08:25:23 AM  

sinko swimo: Coelacanth: Where am I going to get my size 15s?

I had a difficult time finding 11.5 shopping P. And the dollar being worth a dime their prices weren't all that wonderful.


I wear 11.5, too, but depending on the shoe, I have worn as small as 10.5 and as large as 12.5. I think it's a small inkling of how women feel shopping dress sizes.
I usually shop at a one-off local place that carries all kinds of stuff. They even carry a huge selection of work shoes. I just got a pair of Merrell composite toe boots that may be the most comfortable shoes I have worn in a long time.
 
2019-02-16 08:42:07 AM  
If they still have airwalks I'm going to one of the closing sales and snagging an airwalks sign for nostalgia
 
2019-02-16 09:20:21 AM  
Private equity strikes again?
 
2019-02-16 09:31:45 AM  
The Shopko near me has a Payless sign on it (haven't actually gone into the store). First they go bankrupt, then the shoe store inside goes bankrupt. Maybe it will spread to the neighboring stores.
 
2019-02-16 09:41:15 AM  
Payless is one of the few places that I can find my shoe size as well.  I wear a Men's size 8 or 8.5 depending on the brand.  I HAVE to try on my shoes.  Even when they otherwise fit, I usually have to get a pair of inserts for my arches.  But still, I'm just happy to find shoes.

I am saddened by this news.
 
2019-02-16 09:50:28 AM  
Doesn't it feel bad?
 
2019-02-16 10:17:19 AM  

jayphat: Private equity strikes again?


PE firms Golden Gate Capital and Blum Capital Partners acquired Payless in 2012 in a leveraged buyout when publicly traded Collective Brands was broken up. After Payless filed for bankruptcy in April 2017, aggrieved creditors filed a claim in bankruptcy court, alleging that Golden Gate Capital and Blum Capital Partners had siphoned over $400 million out of the company via a special dividend before the bankruptcy filing. The PE firms were concerned enough about this claim that they agreed to settle it in July 2017


It is worth noting Diane Feinstein's husband runs Blum Capital.
 
2019-02-16 10:21:11 AM  
Chris Rock is heartbroken.
 
2019-02-16 10:35:52 AM  

Coelacanth: Where am I going to get my size 15s?


Same size. Zappos. Prices are meh but free returns. Usually buy multiple pairs of shoes return the ones that don't fit right.
 
2019-02-16 10:38:16 AM  
What am I missing?  Every pair of shoes I've tried from Payless have been absolute garbage.

Granted, I haven't shopped there in 20 years.

I wear a men's size 7 wide.  I get my shoes online.
 
2019-02-16 11:22:15 AM  
This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?
 
2019-02-16 11:40:34 AM  

kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?


Same here. A good 30 dollar pair of dressy shoes can always be found there, throw a pair of gel inserts in them and they're great.  they generally last me a year before they're trash.  I doubt i would get 3 years out of a 100$ pair of dress shoes, so payless remains a good bargain.  I'll probably be keeping an eye on kohls sales and amazon for future cheap dress shoe purchases.
 
2019-02-16 11:52:57 AM  
Serious question for Payless shoppers here: can you not find the exact shoe and size online, for either the same price or cheaper?
 
2019-02-16 11:59:24 AM  

kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?


Ok, I spent 300 on a pair of  black dress shoes, Edmond Allen wingtips. I have had them resoled three times and had them for about fifteen years. 150 on  a pair of Florsheim oxford wingtips. Have had them resoled twice and owned them for about ten years. Good leather if taken care of lasts.
 
2019-02-16 11:59:25 AM  

phedex: kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?

Same here. A good 30 dollar pair of dressy shoes can always be found there, throw a pair of gel inserts in them and they're great.  they generally last me a year before they're trash.  I doubt i would get 3 years out of a 100$ pair of dress shoes, so payless remains a good bargain.  I'll probably be keeping an eye on kohls sales and amazon for future cheap dress shoe purchases.


Yeah, but I like trying on shoes before I buy them. Online sales would be risky for me.
 
2019-02-16 12:12:46 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?

Ok, I spent 300 on a pair of  black dress shoes, Edmond Allen wingtips. I have had them resoled three times and had them for about fifteen years. 150 on  a pair of Florsheim oxford wingtips. Have had them resoled twice and owned them for about ten years. Good leather if taken care of lasts.


Sam Vimes agrees.
 
2019-02-16 12:24:17 PM  

kdawg7736: phedex: kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?

Same here. A good 30 dollar pair of dressy shoes can always be found there, throw a pair of gel inserts in them and they're great.  they generally last me a year before they're trash.  I doubt i would get 3 years out of a 100$ pair of dress shoes, so payless remains a good bargain.  I'll probably be keeping an eye on kohls sales and amazon for future cheap dress shoe purchases.

Yeah, but I like trying on shoes before I buy them. Online sales would be risky for me.


Zappos free returns
 
2019-02-16 12:28:31 PM  
Their shoes may not be durable, but if I needed a pair for just the gym or the beach, Payless was the place to go.

I've given up on online stores.  You'd think a size 9M would be relatively consistent, but that's not the case. I have shoes running from 8M to 91/2M.
 
2019-02-16 12:45:09 PM  

DeltaPunch: Serious question for Payless shoppers here: can you not find the exact shoe and size online, for either the same price or cheaper?


I can't try on online shoes before I buy them.  Shirts and maybe socks are about the only apparel I'd be reasonably confident in buying online.  Shoes are too quirky and when you're only looking at payless caliber shoes that quirkiness factory goes way up.  Like dress shoes that look nice but the foot-hole was badly made so its constantly biting at your Achilles tendon, know what I mean?
 
2019-02-16 12:56:03 PM  

DeltaPunch: Serious question for Payless shoppers here: can you not find the exact shoe and size online, for either the same price or cheaper?


I'm sure I could, but I actually like to try stuff on before I soak money into it.  This isn't a one-size-fits-all world, after all.  And when you're putting shoes on kids that change sizes every 3 months, buying cheap shoes that only last the 3 months is totally worth it.  I don't feel bad if my son outgrows a $10 pair of shoes 2 months after I got them.  But if I have to pay $50 for the same pair (and yes, I've done comparison shopping enough to know that can and does happen), you can bet I'll be pissed.
 
2019-02-16 02:17:13 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?

Ok, I spent 300 on a pair of  black dress shoes, Edmond Allen wingtips. I have had them resoled three times and had them for about fifteen years. 150 on  a pair of Florsheim oxford wingtips. Have had them resoled twice and owned them for about ten years. Good leather if taken care of lasts.


Good for you, I'm sure that 300 dollars is equivalent to 350 dollars of todays money at this point, plus the costs of fixing them periodically. For me though, i'd rather keep that kind of money in the bank or spend it on things that are a little more fun than a pair of shoes.
 
2019-02-16 02:20:23 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?

Ok, I spent 300 on a pair of  black dress shoes, Edmond Allen wingtips. I have had them resoled three times and had them for about fifteen years. 150 on  a pair of Florsheim oxford wingtips. Have had them resoled twice and owned them for about ten years. Good leather if taken care of lasts.


My experience has been that getting shoes re-soled generally costs the same as just buying a comparable new pair. I mean, $125-$150 pair of shoes, new soles $99. I don't get the math there.
 
2019-02-16 03:11:10 PM  
Bla. Says clearance starts Sunday. So that means today is probably full price and Sunday is 80% off full so it won't catch up to regular price for another couple weeks.


Didn't go there much but my wife did. I usually found decent slip ons.
 
2019-02-16 03:46:39 PM  
It's interesting that they fault the second-run discount stores like Burlington / TJMaxx. I wonder where those stores will get their merchandise once all the first-run stores go out of business?
 
2019-02-16 04:42:19 PM  
I usually get my shoes at Shoe Carnival. Occasionally I'll get a buy one pair get one pair half off coupon. Spend about $75-80 for 2 pair.
 
2019-02-16 04:49:49 PM  
Payless Shoesource...
The Spongebob Squarepants of corporate naming
 
2019-02-16 04:54:08 PM  

DeltaPunch: Serious question for Payless shoppers here: can you not find the exact shoe and size online, for either the same price or cheaper?


I can.  I am less inclined to buy online.  For me, it's a hassle depending on my budget to buy 1-3 pairs, try on at home, then return two.  That's not smart business for the company if it's free returns, making it eventually catch up with consumers.

Shoes is one area that I feel reasonably certain shouldn't have been affected by online shopping as badly.

What's really sad is a local Payless was just hiring.  Guess not now.
 
2019-02-16 05:13:51 PM  

kdawg7736: Yeah, but I like trying on shoes before I buy them. Online sales would be risky for me.


Only until you find one you like. Once you do, you can just re-order sight unseen.

(If you're lucky, they keep carrying them. I'd been re-ordering the exact same ones in two different colors for literally 15 years straight until they were finally discontinued last year.)
 
2019-02-16 05:33:28 PM  

Oreamnos: Red Shirt Blues: kdawg7736: This sucks. I get my dressy shoes there for work since they are cheap. Now where will I find discount men's dressy shoes?

Ok, I spent 300 on a pair of  black dress shoes, Edmond Allen wingtips. I have had them resoled three times and had them for about fifteen years. 150 on  a pair of Florsheim oxford wingtips. Have had them resoled twice and owned them for about ten years. Good leather if taken care of lasts.

My experience has been that getting shoes re-soled generally costs the same as just buying a comparable new pair. I mean, $125-$150 pair of shoes, new soles $99. I don't get the math there.


Last time I got my Johnston and Murphy's resoled it was $35. Not bad for a pair of $300 shoes, though I don't wear them much anymore. Too fancy.
 
2019-02-16 05:35:49 PM  
thanks, Obama
 
2019-02-16 08:59:51 PM  

dumbobruni: Coelacanth: Where am I going to get my size 15s?

online?

/I have weird feet too
//Converse sneakers are the only casual footwear that fit me right. I just wished they lasted longer.


14 4E for me.
Some New Balance shoes fit ok, but the Sketchers service grade shoes are a new go to find, and last much longer. Much cheaper.
But I'm am old fart, solid black or white shoes dont bother me.
 
2019-02-16 10:28:04 PM  
I can't think of that many retail places to try on shoes first that are left, and that's a damn shame.

No, I don't like ordering shoes online. It'shiat and miss as far as fit goes, and that's a timewaster to keep sending ones that don't fit back and wait for other ones to come in.
 
2019-02-16 10:56:18 PM  

Coelacanth: Where am I going to get my size 15s?


DSW in Henderson?
 
2019-02-17 12:14:28 AM  
The local payless just had to replace its front doors because some idiot drove through them. Never understood how it stayed it business, there is a Fred Meyer that it's literally attached to that has a better selection of shoes and frequent sales. Plus, you know, liquor and lawnmowers.
 
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