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2019-02-09 12:54:25 PM  
Kenilworth residents are considering a wall to keep the crazy Poors  in Winnetka south out. Seeing the examples of what happened in Barrington and Naperville with expansion  the fear could be well founded.
 
2019-02-09 01:56:09 PM  
Unhappy with the prospect of her kindergartner facing a roughly four-mile commute to Avoca Elementary School in Glenview each day, Rakowicz said she enrolled her son in the private Catholic school just blocks from her home.

You people just don't understand. It's four miles. Four. Do you know how many times a mile fits into four miles? Four times, that's how many. And a mile by itself is 5,280 feet. Do you get that? If you take four miles and add up all the feet that are in them, that's 21,120 feet. Mount Everest itself is just a little more than 29,000 feet tall, and people die on Mount Everest almost every year. They need oxygen just to survive. If we accept that an average man is 6 feet tall, that means that in the stretch of road that Rakowicz's young child must endure each day, over 3,500 men could be laying in wait with garrotes, guns, or glutens. A full grown male tiger can reach lengths of up to 13 feet from nose to tail; this perilous route could contain over 1,600 tigers. Maybe if it was your own child at steak, you wouldn't be so glib with the snark, subby. Grow up.
 
2019-02-09 01:59:10 PM  
Sounds like she failed reading comprehension.


Which fark handles are her's?
 
2019-02-09 01:59:20 PM  
"I saw the Avoca district on the real estate listing, but I thought it must be a mistake, because Avoca Elementary School is all the way in Glenview, several miles away from my home," Rakowicz said.

She's only rich because she is/was hot.

Do some farking research beyond Zillow.

It would be a miracle of urban planning to have schools placed where everyone can go to their closest building.  In reality, doing that would have some buildings way beyond capacity and others way under capacity.
 
2019-02-09 01:59:27 PM  
The real estate listing for the home she bought told her what school district she was part of and she didn't believe it? No further investigation on her part? What a moron
 
2019-02-09 02:00:08 PM  
"I saw the Avoca district on the real estate listing, but I thought it must be a mistake, because Avoca Elementary School is all the way in Glenview, several miles away from my home," Rakowicz said.

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If it was such a big deal for you, maybe you should have looked into it a bit more rather than assuming the f*cking listing was wrong...
 
2019-02-09 02:00:15 PM  
What kind of vapid narcissist of a parent doesn't check the school district boundaries before purchasing a home? Apparently a "Gretchen Racowicz".
 
2019-02-09 02:00:35 PM  
FTFA:But Rakowicz, a single mom who moved to the North Shore from Chicago in April 2018, said she was shocked to discover that the school district boundaries included her small neighborhood in Winnetka among those in Wilmette, Northfield and Glenview assigned to Avoca School District 37, not Winnetka School District 36.

I thought parents usually checked schools and school districts before they moved. Maybe it's just me but when on Zillow it tells ya right there.
 
2019-02-09 02:01:26 PM  
Well I see we all thought the same thing.
 
2019-02-09 02:01:44 PM  
I was going to say that the slightest amount of investigation would show what school district she was in... until I saw that she had checked and just ignored it.  Dumb woman is dumb
 
2019-02-09 02:02:31 PM  
"I saw the Avoca district on the real estate listing, but I thought it must be a mistake, because Avoca Elementary School is all the way in Glenview, several miles away from my home," Rakowicz said.

Oh that's smart, it's only a permanent, life-altering decision and a million dollar house.  No need to check up on things you think are mistakes.
 
2019-02-09 02:02:34 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Unhappy with the prospect of her kindergartner facing a roughly four-mile commute to Avoca Elementary School in Glenview each day, Rakowicz said she enrolled her son in the private Catholic school just blocks from her home.

You people just don't understand. It's four miles. Four. Do you know how many times a mile fits into four miles? Four times, that's how many. And a mile by itself is 5,280 feet. Do you get that? If you take four miles and add up all the feet that are in them, that's 21,120 feet. Mount Everest itself is just a little more than 29,000 feet tall, and people die on Mount Everest almost every year. They need oxygen just to survive. If we accept that an average man is 6 feet tall, that means that in the stretch of road that Rakowicz's young child must endure each day, over 3,500 men could be laying in wait with garrotes, guns, or glutens. A full grown male tiger can reach lengths of up to 13 feet from nose to tail; this perilous route could contain over 1,600 tigers. Maybe if it was your own child at steak, you wouldn't be so glib with the snark, subby. Grow up.


Please, snipers laying along the path to school won't be parallel to the roadway, they'll be perpendicular. You should recalculate based on two feet average shoulder width for each possible sniper. You're looking at potentially over 9,000 snipers.
 
2019-02-09 02:04:05 PM  
We have a similar issue near where I live.

Although I live in a predominantly white upper middle class enclave, the problem of school districting is definitely an issue among ourselves too. Instead of being in the nearby school, my kid has to take a bus half an hour to his school in the next town over. This means his bus arrives 15 minutes earlier than for the local school, he returns 15 minutes later, and most of the bus ride is on the highway.

With the current snow storm making the roads hazardous, putting him on a bus is an unpalatable situation. If he were enrolled in the nearby school, I could drive him there in less than 10 minutes.

School district lines should be drawn with neighborhoods in mind. Sending neighbors to different schools is bad for helping kids build friendships, which is one of the most important aspects of growing up.
 
2019-02-09 02:04:20 PM  
The solution is a hard and fast rule.  No boundry of any kind can ever change.  Starting...    NOW!  Then allow her to send her kids to the school they are currently zoned in.  However if she refuses, she agrees that her children are not allowed in any educational facility, ever.
 
2019-02-09 02:06:03 PM  
Thinks this is hyperbole.

/Reads article.

Nope, she a white Helicopter mom crusader, living in a $1.75 million house. You'd better believe she don't want her little angels contaminated with melanin.
 
2019-02-09 02:08:26 PM  
School districting: How does it work? (not very well, actually)
She's spending more than $1m on a house and didn't take the time to see where her kids were going to school?

"I saw the Avoca district on the real estate listing, but I thought it must be a mistake, because Avoca Elementary School is all the way in Glenview, several miles away from my home," Rakowicz said.

Then make a call and find out if it's correct if it matters that much to you. Every time my wife and I have bought a house, we make sure we know where the kids will go to school - it's part of the process.
 
2019-02-09 02:08:28 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Unhappy with the prospect of her kindergartner facing a roughly four-mile commute to Avoca Elementary School in Glenview each day, Rakowicz said she enrolled her son in the private Catholic school just blocks from her home.

You people just don't understand. It's four miles. Four. Do you know how many times a mile fits into four miles? Four times, that's how many. And a mile by itself is 5,280 feet. Do you get that? If you take four miles and add up all the feet that are in them, that's 21,120 feet. Mount Everest itself is just a little more than 29,000 feet tall, and people die on Mount Everest almost every year. They need oxygen just to survive. If we accept that an average man is 6 feet tall, that means that in the stretch of road that Rakowicz's young child must endure each day, over 3,500 men could be laying in wait with garrotes, guns, or glutens. A full grown male tiger can reach lengths of up to 13 feet from nose to tail; this perilous route could contain over 1,600 tigers. Maybe if it was your own child at steak, you wouldn't be so glib with the snark, subby. Grow up.


You would make an excellent lobbyist.
 
2019-02-09 02:09:33 PM  
Okay, I've got a radical solution to this issue...

1.) Put all property taxes into one general fund
2.) Distribute that fund equally to all schools, regardless of the property values of the areas surrounding those schools

Quit treating quality education as a privilege of the well-to-do, and start treating it as a right for every child.

The result of this could be terrifying, though: lowered crime rates, reduction in poverty, increased entrepreneurship, increased productivity, a more active and robust economy, and a deeper involvement in local, state, and national government.  And let's not even begin to consider the absolute horror of the magnificent contributions to culture, art, music, and literature that might result from a well-educated populace.

Like I said, "radical."
 
2019-02-09 02:09:47 PM  
Boy, if this isn't classism, I don't know what it is.
 
2019-02-09 02:10:09 PM  
Uggh, white women
 
2019-02-09 02:11:41 PM  
I thought subby was engaging in a bit of hyperbole for comic effect. Then I read the article.

Holy shiat. "I know the school that they're in is better - but it's just not white enough..."
 
2019-02-09 02:12:21 PM  

Gilligann: The real estate listing for the home she bought told her what school district she was part of and she didn't believe it? No further investigation on her part? What a moron


This. Also,
FTA:"When I called District 36, they told me if I wanted my son to go to Greeley, I could pay $25,000 a year for out-of-district tuition, and I was like, 'Are you kidding me? I'm already paying $34,000 a year in property taxes.'"

I like that in the article she went straight to the "Don't you know who I am!? I pay your salary!" defense.
 
2019-02-09 02:12:22 PM  
Is she a mommy blogger too?
 
2019-02-09 02:13:23 PM  
She has the entitled coont thing down to a T. Well done.
 
2019-02-09 02:15:23 PM  
I would have some sympathy for her if she had been in the house for many years and got redistricted.

But then again in that situation, if it's that important, you should have the equity to move.
 
2019-02-09 02:15:26 PM  
Every time I've moved, ive always checked to see which school my kids would be attending beforehand. It might not be the only factor I've made my decision on, but it takes like two minutes by going to the school district's website.
 
2019-02-09 02:17:14 PM  
Given how they're nearly all white women, subby's headline would be excellent for an Anti-VAX rally too.
 
2019-02-09 02:17:43 PM  
Four miles?  When I was a kid, that would have been  closer than the closest school of any kind.  And the bus had to go farther from the school before it got closer.  Indeed on the way home, the bus drove right past my house, when a mile dropped off kids, and then returned to my house as they did not let elementary school students cross the 55 mph county road.  And heck, some of the kids not long before I got off had to walk one or two thousand on feet on a dirt road after miles on the bus.

Your kid will live.
 
2019-02-09 02:18:57 PM  
OMG a whole 4 mile bus ride. I walked farther than that. In the snow. Up hill. Both ways.
 
2019-02-09 02:19:00 PM  

Dawnrazor: Okay, I've got a radical solution to this issue...

1.) Put all property taxes into one general fund
2.) Distribute that fund equally to all schools, regardless of the property values of the areas surrounding those schools

Quit treating quality education as a privilege of the well-to-do, and start treating it as a right for every child.

The result of this could be terrifying, though: lowered crime rates, reduction in poverty, increased entrepreneurship, increased productivity, a more active and robust economy, and a deeper involvement in local, state, and national government.  And let's not even begin to consider the absolute horror of the magnificent contributions to culture, art, music, and literature that might result from a well-educated populace.

Like I said, "radical."


Rich white people: "This area is starting to have poor minorities, let's change school district lines so I don't have to pay for their education."

*School district with poor minorities loses funding and results in a more uneducated populace committing more crimes lowering their property value.*

Rich white people: 
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2019-02-09 02:19:12 PM  
If you ignored information you had you're a dummy.

That said, the districting in the Chicago burbs can be really goofy in my experience, even if you do the research before you buy. My oldest sister went to a different elementary and junior high than my other sister and I, and I went to two different elementary schools for K-4 and 5-6... same house.

I spent a lot of time on the bus as a result, which wasn't a big deal, but it sucked having all your friends from school live 30-45 minutes away by bike.
 
2019-02-09 02:19:41 PM  
Maybe Mom needed to attend a school where students are taught/develop better reading comprehension skills -- like Avoca.

I grew up on a farm, was several miles from the elementary & jr high -- about about 15 from the High school. And I lived closer than most of my classmates. A few thing about riding the bus -- everyone knew the relative financial situation of everyone else (you saw each other's houses) - and you got to know each other on those bus rides. Even if you were not close friends, you got to know each other -- and to get along. I may have forgotten 90% of the math I 'learned' -- but I still know how to get along with people.
 
2019-02-09 02:21:19 PM  
FTFA: "I saw the Avoca district on the real estate listing, but I thought it must be a mistake, because Avoca Elementary School is all the way in Glenview, several miles away from my home," Rakowicz said.

"But I didn't investigate further before spending more than a million dollars," the moron continued.
 
2019-02-09 02:21:56 PM  
Glenview is a great town.  Its school district is ranked 10th in the state.  Your child is in preschool.  You are a crazy lady.
 
2019-02-09 02:22:30 PM  
FTFA: After Gretchen Rakowicz paid nearly $1.3 million for a five-bedroom home in southeast Winnetka last year, she assumed her kindergarten-aged son would attend nearby Greeley Elementary School....


It's a wonder how someone that stupid is able to afford a 1.3 million dollar home in the first place.
 
2019-02-09 02:22:46 PM  
WhoTF doesn't check the school district before buying a home?  I've had coworkers who took on ridiculous commutes just to keep their kids in good districts.  I don't even have ankle biters and I looked at the ratings just to see.  Sure glad I didn't have to make a choice based on the quality of schools.
 
2019-02-09 02:22:54 PM  

r1niceboy: Thinks this is hyperbole.

/Reads article.

Nope, she a white Helicopter mom crusader, living in a $1.75 million house. You'd better believe she don't want her little angels contaminated with melanin.


I was inclined to think it was a case of "Everyone is racist!" but then I read the article.

She wants her kid moved to the school with higher class sizes, lower overall ratings, lower proficiency grades in language and math, and 89% white people.

Because it's 3 miles closer, of course. That's the ticket.
 
2019-02-09 02:27:28 PM  
Just another Heartland Weirdass:

Sounds like she failed reading comprehension.

Which fark handles are her's?


Do I need to point out the irony of this post or....?
 
2019-02-09 02:27:31 PM  
A similar issue happened in northern Michigan years ago, a very rich potato farmer had his company in one county & lived in a different county & wanted his taxes to go to the county where he lived. I don,t remember the out come but it was a screaming match in the courts for a long time.

/was also the year the Ohio Nat Guard live bombed Mancelona MI they celebrate it every yr there.
//Michigan the land of fun & frolic.
///Come for the taxes, enjoy the crazy.
 
2019-02-09 02:30:20 PM  
The thing about America, the thing that makes it work and which makes it actually achieve some of its revolutionary aims and ideals, is that it is almost as easy to go down as it is to go up.

I read that 9% of Americans will be in the top 1% at least part of their life cycle, which means that 8% have genuine hopes of being 1% (versus the 19% that think they are already there) and that eight times as many people will fall out of the 1% as stay there, and that is very conserative, since not all the people in the 1% now have a snowflake's hope in Yale of staying there forever.

Anxiety is the characteristic sentiment of the comfortable middle classes, and among the rich it becomes something akin to terror.

Where's my Grumpy Cat at?

In Europe, things are both better and worse. You can attain high status only by being born into it, like the Hollywood celebrities of which Weezer sings. Being high class by birtth means you have a right to be poor, nasty, and skid row scum if you like, you will always be Marquis or Duke.

Only duchesses and other nobs by marriage can lose their caste, but they seldom give up their titles, even though a divorce or death of a husband is supposed to end the reign of the Merry Dowager.

I sort of like the European way where class is almost but not quite caste, but the American way of a giant Babylonian Lottery has its charms and I have to admit that America's Founders did something really unusual and almost unique when they tried to create a democracy of equals out of the rubbish materials available to them, mostly Anglos, Irish, Germans and Swedes at the time.

As a liberal, I yeard for real equality and brotherhood of man, but I would like mine with an aristocratic flair and taste that is absent from the bushwazie, not to mention the Bushes.
 
2019-02-09 02:31:03 PM  
Yuck! Nothing worse than a Poor, you people.
 
2019-02-09 02:31:35 PM  
If you need anything else manslained, America, I will be over here in Canada, pointedly not minding my own business because there ain't no fun in that.
 
2019-02-09 02:32:14 PM  
these stories always remind me of the stories you hear at the begin of each school year where some parent is mad cause their kid can't ride the bus to school cause they live within the must walk to school range even though the bus has to drive right pass their house.
 
2019-02-09 02:32:44 PM  
I bet she needs to talk to the manager a lot.
 
2019-02-09 02:33:10 PM  

guestguy: "I saw the Avoca district on the real estate listing, but I thought it must be a mistake, because Avoca Elementary School is all the way in Glenview, several miles away from my home," Rakowicz said.

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If it was such a big deal for you, maybe you should have looked into it a bit more rather than assuming the f*cking listing was wrong...


I would bet money she didn't think it was "a mistake". She simply thought the rules don't apply to her.

She likely got a good price on her home Because of the school district. Now she's pleading ignorance, and trying to farkover the school district she bought into.

Frankly, either sell, cough up money to private school/buy into the other district, or suck it up and send your kid to the school assigned to the home You bought.
 
2019-02-09 02:33:15 PM  
TFA states they want to take their kids out of the school thats 25% asian and put them in the school thats only 3% asian. Probably just don't want their kids to be on the bottom of the grading curve.
 
2019-02-09 02:33:44 PM  

SirEattonHogg: FTFA: After Gretchen Rakowicz paid nearly $1.3 million for a five-bedroom home in southeast Winnetka last year, she assumed her kindergarten-aged son would attend nearby Greeley Elementary School....


It's a wonder how someone that stupid is able to afford a 1.3 million dollar home in the first place.


To be fair, it only mentions that she bought the house, there is no mention of being able to afford it. I wouldn't put it past this trollup to live beyond her means.
 
2019-02-09 02:33:57 PM  
Abolish private schools
 
2019-02-09 02:34:04 PM  
Yawn....The more progressive a city is the more segregated it is.  Google "Huffington Post Segregation Map"
 
2019-02-09 02:35:08 PM  

Pocket Ninja: You people just don't understand. It's four miles. Four.


That's as many as 4 ones, and that's terrible!
 
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