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(BBC-US)   Take a break from your TPS reports and consider 'Office Space' 20 years on. Re-watching it reveals how much office culture has changed - and how much it hasn't   (bbc.com) divider line
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2019-02-06 05:38:09 PM  
Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.
 
2019-02-06 06:45:30 PM  

Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.


Really, that was not so bad. It wan't a slide show or a three paragraph special. It wasn't done by tweet. I can live with it.
 
2019-02-06 07:44:54 PM  
The only thing unrealistic about Office Space was that software developers could get laid off. They were just a couple years early. Same guy wrote Idiocracy.
 
2019-02-06 07:48:13 PM  
Cubicles?  What sorcery is this?  Everyone today works at a desk in an open floor plan.
 
2019-02-06 07:49:05 PM  

edmo: Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.

Really, that was not so bad. It wan't a slide show or a three paragraph special. It wasn't done by tweet. I can live with it.


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2019-02-06 07:50:49 PM  
I recognize how nonsensical it is to have an introspective life realization over such a dumb movie (albeit one of my favorites), but watching that I realized how aligned my feelings were to what Peter was expressing. It isn't that I was in the wrong role or that my boss was a chode; it was that I didnt buy into any of it and just wanted to be "zonked out ".

/sellout
 
kab
2019-02-06 07:51:18 PM  

Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.


Done here, someone get the lights.  The person who wrote this article hasn't ever worked in corporate 'murka recently, if ever.

FrancoFile: Cubicles?  What sorcery is this?  Everyone today works at a desk in an open floor plan.


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2019-02-06 07:52:16 PM  
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Flair culture hasn't changed much.
 
2019-02-06 07:53:05 PM  
Corporate culture is an incurable virus in the US that is celebrated instead of researching for a vaccine.
 
kab
2019-02-06 07:53:13 PM  

Mugato: The only thing unrealistic about Office Space was that software developers could get laid off. They were just a couple years early. Same guy wrote Idiocracy.


That, and that you can walk into a restaurant, tell an attractive waitress that you'll be across the way having lunch, and she'll actually join you.
 
2019-02-06 07:55:15 PM  

FrancoFile: Cubicles?  What sorcery is this?  Everyone today works at a desk in an open floor plan.


...Which is the devil's work.  How does anyone appreciate that idea more than having a modicum of potentially private space where if you're careful and quick you can scratch your butt or blow your nose without having a whole room full of people be acutely, visually aware?
 
2019-02-06 07:56:23 PM  
1999 was a big year for people whining about their cushy white collar lives. American Beauty, Fight Club, even Neo would have been happier if he took the blue pill.
 
2019-02-06 07:58:39 PM  

Mugato: 1999 was a big year for people whining about their cushy white collar lives. American Beauty, Fight Club, even Neo would have been happier if he took the blue pill.


The infancy of the internet was pretty awesome too.
 
2019-02-06 08:00:03 PM  
We're not in Kansas anymore
 
2019-02-06 08:07:16 PM  
Freed from cubicle farms by introducing open office plans? Got it. Right.
 
2019-02-06 08:07:27 PM  

Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.


Well, there is one change.  I won't be fixing the Y2K bug again.
 
2019-02-06 08:10:00 PM  

dittybopper: Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.

Well, there is one change.  I won't be fixing the Y2K bug again.


Never had to do that but I did have TPS (transactions per second) reports.
 
2019-02-06 08:12:33 PM  
Silicon Valley start-ups of the late 2000s and early 2010s come to mind, with leaders who shunned suits and called for freedom and creativity in the workplace. Instead of personality-stripping cubicles, organisations would go on to favour open-air office plans with bean bags and ping-pong tables.

I worked in one such start-up. There was a ping-pong table, all the free soda you could drink and weekly meetings with a plastic garbage can full of beer. We often load tested our servers by playing Duke Nukem and Quake. This was in 1996.
 
2019-02-06 08:13:34 PM  
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2019-02-06 08:14:17 PM  
Some things never change
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2019-02-06 08:15:37 PM  

morg: Freed from cubicle farms by introducing open office plans? Got it. Right.


"Veal fattening pens" as Douglas Coupland labeled them
 
2019-02-06 08:15:59 PM  

PanicAttack: Mugato: 1999 was a big year for people whining about their cushy white collar lives. American Beauty, Fight Club, even Neo would have been happier if he took the blue pill.

The infancy of the internet was pretty awesome too.


I guess 20 years later it does seem like its infancy but we had the essentials; porn, chat rooms, online gaming, buying stuff, porn.
 
2019-02-06 08:16:19 PM  
I remember watching it and thinking I'd found kindred spirits both in Peter and Milton.
 
2019-02-06 08:17:50 PM  

Mugato: PanicAttack: Mugato: 1999 was a big year for people whining about their cushy white collar lives. American Beauty, Fight Club, even Neo would have been happier if he took the blue pill.

The infancy of the internet was pretty awesome too.

I guess 20 years later it does seem like its infancy but we had the essentials; porn, chat rooms, online gaming, buying stuff, porn.


Agreed. My point was it was a niche community rather than everyone and their grandma or everyone's grandmas.
 
KIA
2019-02-06 08:19:27 PM  
Hint: it hasn't.

In fact, people keep getting dumber, coming up with more nonsensical projects and requirements and meaningless tasks.  And meetings!  Oh, the endless meetings about stupid crap!

I found a postcard once.  And now I've found it again:

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2019-02-06 08:19:28 PM  
The response Lawrence gave to what he would do with a million dollars will not change over 20, 200, or 2000 years.
 
2019-02-06 08:19:41 PM  

PanicAttack: Mugato: PanicAttack: Mugato: 1999 was a big year for people whining about their cushy white collar lives. American Beauty, Fight Club, even Neo would have been happier if he took the blue pill.

The infancy of the internet was pretty awesome too.

I guess 20 years later it does seem like its infancy but we had the essentials; porn, chat rooms, online gaming, buying stuff, porn.

Agreed. My point was it was a niche community rather than everyone and their grandma or everyone's grandmas.


Grandma porn
 
2019-02-06 08:22:37 PM  
I watched it the first time the night before I started my Boobies-college job with Motorola as a software engineer. It was true then and it's true now. The only difference is I work for a small firm without a lot of corporate overhead, but we sell to massive conglomerates and when I visit onsite they still have reams of needless paperwork.
 
2019-02-06 08:23:40 PM  

Mugato: The only thing unrealistic about Office Space was that software developers could get laid off. They were just a couple years early. Same guy wrote Idiocracy.


Software developers getting laid was also unrealistic.
 
2019-02-06 08:23:51 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I watched it the first time the night before I started my Boobies-college job with Motorola as a software engineer. It was true then and it's true now. The only difference is I work for a small firm without a lot of corporate overhead, but we sell to massive conglomerates and when I visit onsite they still have reams of needless paperwork.


Damn. That job sounds cooler than I remember.
 
2019-02-06 08:24:53 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Rapmaster2000: I watched it the first time the night before I started my Boobies-college job with Motorola as a software engineer. It was true then and it's true now. The only difference is I work for a small firm without a lot of corporate overhead, but we sell to massive conglomerates and when I visit onsite they still have reams of needless paperwork.

Damn. That job sounds cooler than I remember.


Damn, no wonder Motorola shutdown.
 
2019-02-06 08:25:22 PM  
It predicted the popularity of red Swingline staplers pretty well.
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2019-02-06 08:31:19 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I watched it the first time the night before I started my Boobies-college job with Motorola as a software engineer. It was true then and it's true now. The only difference is I work for a small firm without a lot of corporate overhead, but we sell to massive conglomerates and when I visit onsite they still have reams of needless paperwork.


I tried to get in to boobies college. When I asked for an application, they handed me a bra and said, "Here you go. Fill this out."

/I never had a chance of getting accepted. I had all A's.
 
2019-02-06 08:32:41 PM  

dittybopper: Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.

Well, there is one change.  I won't be fixing the Y2K bug again.


dittybopper: Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.

Well, there is one change.  I won't be fixing the Y2K bug again.


At around 3:18AM GMT, January 19th 2038, some of our kids will get to do it again.

Y2k38 bug
 
2019-02-06 08:36:36 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Mugato: The only thing unrealistic about Office Space was that software developers could get laid off. They were just a couple years early. Same guy wrote Idiocracy.

Software developers getting laid was also unrealistic.


A few months earlier, audiences accepted that a guy who looked like Keanu Reeves would be a lonely hermit who got his self esteem from hacking.
The suspension of disbelief toe had already been dipped in the water.
 
2019-02-06 08:38:07 PM  

Jaymi77: edmo: Mugato: Absolutely nothing has changed. Except now it's a little easier for people with no marketable skills to write articles like this on the internet.

Really, that was not so bad. It wan't a slide show or a three paragraph special. It wasn't done by tweet. I can live with it.

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I was expecting a ten minute video listicle that could be read in 30 seconds.
 
2019-02-06 08:40:12 PM  

Argyle82: The response Lawrence gave to what he would do with a million dollars will not change over 20, 200, or 2000 years.


Two Centauri Fembots at the same time, man, for forty quatloos
 
2019-02-06 08:40:59 PM  

skyotter: It predicted the popularity of red Swingline staplers pretty well.
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Amazing how that happened.
 
2019-02-06 08:41:44 PM  
Honestly, working in tech, in an office, is still 99.99999999999% the same. Except with more company swag and flexible dress codes, which they cover up by giving you so much swag you have a company polo for every day of the week.

Other than that, yup.
 
2019-02-06 08:43:51 PM  

stoli n coke: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Mugato: The only thing unrealistic about Office Space was that software developers could get laid off. They were just a couple years early. Same guy wrote Idiocracy.

Software developers getting laid was also unrealistic.

A few months earlier, audiences accepted that a guy who looked like Keanu Reeves would be a lonely hermit who got his self esteem from hacking.
The suspension of disbelief toe had already been dipped in the water.


He was also a programmer who had to wear a suit to work, which I'm sure was the dress code for some software cube farms, just none I've been to.
 
2019-02-06 08:44:01 PM  

Argyle82: The response Lawrence gave to what he would do with a million dollars will not change over 20, 200, or 2000 years.


Yep.  All of human civilization has just been an attempt to impress the opposite sex.

/ and sometimes the same sex
 
2019-02-06 08:49:42 PM  

kab: Mugato: The only thing unrealistic about Office Space was that software developers could get laid off. They were just a couple years early. Same guy wrote Idiocracy.

That, and that you can walk into a restaurant, tell an attractive waitress that you'll be across the way having lunch, and she'll actually join you.


Assuming she likes kung-fu movies, sure.
 
2019-02-06 08:49:58 PM  
I watched this movie in college, graduated, looked around at the job market, and joined the Army to avoid that fate.
To my dismay, I found that the same crap happened in garrison, and even while deployed to some extent.
The closer you get to the top in any career, the more relatable is "Office Space".
 
2019-02-06 08:52:59 PM  

KIA: Hint: it hasn't.

In fact, people keep getting dumber, coming up with more nonsensical projects and requirements and meaningless tasks.  And meetings!  Oh, the endless meetings about stupid crap!

I found a postcard once.  And now I've found it again:

[stjent.pinnaclecart.com image 280x200]


Another thing that I just realized has changed: Automation has lead to more layoffs and a worse product.

Used to be that applying to a job meant an actual human would look at your resume. Now a farking program scans it for keywords, doesn't know the difference between some synonyms, and rejects the perfect candidate because they didn't use the exact right words.

/Bitter? Me? Nah.
 
2019-02-06 08:54:44 PM  
Now that I've had a few beers, I had another thought. I got my first corporate job in 1997 and found Fark in 2001.

Fark and my career are pretty much inseparable.

*explosion noise* I just blew my mind!
 
2019-02-06 08:57:40 PM  

Fireproof: KIA: Hint: it hasn't.

In fact, people keep getting dumber, coming up with more nonsensical projects and requirements and meaningless tasks.  And meetings!  Oh, the endless meetings about stupid crap!

I found a postcard once.  And now I've found it again:

[stjent.pinnaclecart.com image 280x200]

Another thing that I just realized has changed: Automation has lead to more layoffs and a worse product.

Used to be that applying to a job meant an actual human would look at your resume. Now a farking program scans it for keywords, doesn't know the difference between some synonyms, and rejects the perfect candidate because they didn't use the exact right words.

/Bitter? Me? Nah.


You didn't use the exact right word. Rejected!
 
2019-02-06 09:01:02 PM  

KIA: Hint: it hasn't.

In fact, people keep getting dumber, coming up with more nonsensical projects and requirements and meaningless tasks.  And meetings!  Oh, the endless meetings about stupid crap!

I found a postcard once.  And now I've found it again:

[stjent.pinnaclecart.com image 280x200]


If you believe that all of the great Roman construction projects occured without meetings....you are wrong.
 
2019-02-06 09:03:12 PM  
Never worked in an office. Never waited tables. Based on the movies, it sucks hard.
 
2019-02-06 09:03:29 PM  
The gig economy / contracting has become much more prevalent. (Did not RTFA.) Most of Peter and his friends would not actually be employees of Innertech. They'd be project temps or something.
 
2019-02-06 09:07:15 PM  

Crewmannumber6: PanicAttack: Mugato: PanicAttack: Mugato: 1999 was a big year for people whining about their cushy white collar lives. American Beauty, Fight Club, even Neo would have been happier if he took the blue pill.

The infancy of the internet was pretty awesome too.

I guess 20 years later it does seem like its infancy but we had the essentials; porn, chat rooms, online gaming, buying stuff, porn.

Agreed. My point was it was a niche community rather than everyone and their grandma or everyone's grandmas.

Grandma porn


Two old chicks at the same time, man.
 
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