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(NPR)   Thirty-three years ago this week, Space Shuttle Challenger exploded 73 seconds into its final flight. Here's the guy who tried to stop that launch   (npr.org) divider line
    More: Hero, Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, Kennedy Space Center, Space Shuttle, Roger Boisjoly, Space Shuttle Columbia, Space Shuttle Challenger, STS-51-L, NASA contractor Morton Thiokol  
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2019-01-29 02:31:07 PM  
I can't imagine the feeling of helplessness in not being able to stop such a thing.

RIP Mr.Boisjoly
 
2019-01-29 02:51:42 PM  
My sister worked for Thiokol and I like to blame her. Although she was just 7 when it happened.
 
2019-01-29 02:53:22 PM  

LarryDan43: My sister worked for Thiokol and I like to blame her. Although she was just 7 when it happened.


That will happen when you employ 7 year olds in the solid booster industry.
 
2019-01-29 02:53:25 PM  
I heard him give a talk about this in college.  He was pretty bitter.  Probably about his later blackballing, not just the management errors.
 
2019-01-29 02:53:30 PM  
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2019-01-29 02:53:46 PM  
I'm sure they marked him as "not a team player."
 
2019-01-29 02:54:14 PM  
Maybe the extra apostrophe punctured the tank casing. Why do you hate America's manned space program, subby?
 
2019-01-29 02:55:04 PM  
NCSB: My brother and I would watch the launches from the parking lot of the apartment complex we lived in. We were watching the launch and couldn't believe our eyes when the shuttle exploded. We ran in to see what happened on the news. It was a very sad day and one I will never forget.
 
2019-01-29 02:56:03 PM  
I was in a taxi (old school Uber to the kiddies) on base at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. The driver pulled over and turned off the meter so we could both listen to what the fark was happening on the radio.
 
2019-01-29 02:56:49 PM  
As someone who watched this at a time "when they rolled the TV cart into the classroom"

We didn't know what to do.
/the teacher didn't either
 
2019-01-29 02:57:34 PM  
The weirdest thing I remember is that it was a snow day for Atlanta-area schools.

Yes, really.  That's how I wound up watching it live at a friend's house.
 
2019-01-29 02:57:57 PM  
Uhg.. I remember this to well, every school in N.H. was showing the launch in class. Still makes me sad...
 
2019-01-29 02:58:11 PM  
I was not quite 14. We were watching live at school. I dont remember too much other than general shock and confusion.

However I seem to recall it was less than 2 days before the first Need Another Seven Astronauts jokes began to float around. Kids are mean.
 
2019-01-29 02:59:42 PM  
I was in Social Studies class when someone came knocking on the door and reported to the teacher that Space Shuttle exploded. Everyone in class laughed. My next class was Science and they rolled in the television to watch the coverage. That's when students starting make the horrible jokes we hear all the time now. "What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts." "What did Christa McAuliffe tell her husband on the day of the launch? You feed the dog. I'll feed the fish." "What was Christa McAulliffe's last words? What's this red button for?"

I think you get the picture. Boy were we assholes back then.
 
2019-01-29 03:00:09 PM  

Beerguy: I was in a taxi (old school Uber to the kiddies) on base at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. The driver pulled over and turned off the meter so we could both listen to what the fark was happening on the radio.


I was doing a good job of not crying.
 
2019-01-29 03:00:44 PM  
This guy is a great lesson in ethics, namely that those telling people to "behave ethically" will punish that behavior if it results in inconvenience. "Ethics" is a set of rules people refuse to write down so they can accuse others of breaking them without being held to the same standard.
 
2019-01-29 03:00:52 PM  

edmo: I'm sure they marked him as "not a team player."


If he'd gone along, they'd have marked him as, "designated fall guy", so he made the right choice,
 
2019-01-29 03:01:48 PM  

tothekor: I was in Social Studies class when someone came knocking on the door and reported to the teacher that Space Shuttle exploded. Everyone in class laughed. My next class was Science and they rolled in the television to watch the coverage. That's when students starting make the horrible jokes we hear all the time now. "What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts." "What did Christa McAuliffe tell her husband on the day of the launch? You feed the dog. I'll feed the fish." "What was Christa McAulliffe's last words? What's this red button for?"

I think you get the picture. Boy were we assholes back then.


How do we know Christa McAuliffe's eyes were blue? Because one blue this way, one blue that way.

Yeah... even pre-Fark, we were pretty Farked.
 
2019-01-29 03:03:24 PM  
its'
 
2019-01-29 03:04:10 PM  

tothekor: I was in Social Studies class when someone came knocking on the door and reported to the teacher that Space Shuttle exploded. Everyone in class laughed. My next class was Science and they rolled in the television to watch the coverage. That's when students starting make the horrible jokes we hear all the time now. "What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts." "What did Christa McAuliffe tell her husband on the day of the launch? You feed the dog. I'll feed the fish." "What was Christa McAulliffe's last words? What's this red button for?"

I think you get the picture. Boy were we assholes back then.


They were savage. I remember them. "They found Christa McAulliffe's shampoo on the beach. What's it called? Head and shoulders."
 
2019-01-29 03:04:11 PM  
The explosion of Challenger and the deaths of its crew, including Teacher-in Space Christa McAuliffe

Well, almost anyway.
 
2019-01-29 03:04:31 PM  

pounddawg: As someone who watched this at a time "when they rolled the TV cart into the classroom"

We didn't know what to do.
/the teacher didn't either


Same here. They called our parents and sent us home. I think they cancelled school the whole next day too.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2019-01-29 03:05:09 PM  
"The calculations behind wind-chill numbers are inaccurate so we should discard it altogether rather than fix it" - sounds like familiar logic, now let me thing, where have I heard that before.....

/climate change deniers
//Obamacare haters
///brexiteers with the EU...
 
2019-01-29 03:06:20 PM  
I warned ya not to launch, but did ya listen?
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2019-01-29 03:06:38 PM  

LarryDan43: My sister worked for Thiokol and I like to blame her. Although she was just 7 when it happened.



Ditto.

/I mean that I was 7 at the time.
//And not that I blame your sister.
 
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2019-01-29 03:07:29 PM  
I was a freshman in high school. I was at my locker getting my books for the next class. A teacher in the speech therapy class next to my locker shouted something. We looked into the room, and saw that forked smoke trail. The teacher told us the shuttle just blew up.

I was stunned to say the least. It is my generation's "where were you when .... happened?" moment.
 
2019-01-29 03:07:42 PM  

Xai: "The calculations behind wind-chill numbers are inaccurate so we should discard it altogether rather than fix it" - sounds like familiar logic, now let me thing, where have I heard that before.....

/climate change deniers
//Obamacare haters
///brexiteers with the EU...


You may have one too many browser tabs open
 
2019-01-29 03:07:55 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The explosion of Challenger and the deaths of its crew, including Teacher-in Space Christa McAuliffe

Well, almost anyway.


Originally, NASA wanted to put Big Bird in space (along with Carroll Spinney).
 
2019-01-29 03:08:11 PM  

Xai: "The calculations behind wind-chill numbers are inaccurate so we should discard it altogether rather than fix it" - sounds like familiar logic, now let me thing, where have I heard that before.....

/climate change deniers
//Obamacare haters
///brexiteers with the EU...


And its freaking engineering. Stuff is pretty hard and fast, especially with materials.

"Its cold, it will not work as advertised." Red line, move the launch.

Whats the worst that could happen? Oh, a total vehicle loss, on the pad, or on ascent? Yeah, see you in March.
 
2019-01-29 03:09:47 PM  

Exile On Beale Street: pounddawg: As someone who watched this at a time "when they rolled the TV cart into the classroom"

We didn't know what to do.
/the teacher didn't either

Same here. They called our parents and sent us home. I think they cancelled school the whole next day too.



Wow.  IIRC, school still went on as planned, although our teacher talked about it when we came back from recess.  That night, I remember my parents talking about it during dinner, and we watched Reagan's live speeh.
 
2019-01-29 03:09:52 PM  
Is it still speculated that they were all alive in the cabin until they hit the water?
 
2019-01-29 03:11:01 PM  

Solid State Vittles: The explosion of Challenger and the deaths of its crew, including Teacher-inall overSpace Christa McAuliffe



FTFY
 
2019-01-29 03:11:15 PM  

pounddawg: As someone who watched this at a time "when they rolled the TV cart into the classroom"

We didn't know what to do.
/the teacher didn't either


TV?  I watched right out the window of the classroom, just down the Indian River.
 
2019-01-29 03:11:47 PM  

the_innkeeper: Xai: "The calculations behind wind-chill numbers are inaccurate so we should discard it altogether rather than fix it" - sounds like familiar logic, now let me thing, where have I heard that before.....

/climate change deniers
//Obamacare haters
///brexiteers with the EU...

And its freaking engineering. Stuff is pretty hard and fast, especially with materials.

"Its cold, it will not work as advertised." Red line, move the launch.

Whats the worst that could happen? Oh, a total vehicle loss, on the pad, or on ascent? Yeah, see you in March.


Facts don't matter in political circles. All about gambling until you get called.
 
2019-01-29 03:11:59 PM  
Instead of parking their kids on his doorstep, the Thiokol employees should carve the names of the challenger astronauts on every mangers tombstone, so that 100 years from NASA employees remember the horrifically awful decisions their predecessors made and remember never to follow that kind of bureaucracy again.
 
2019-01-29 03:12:22 PM  

tothekor: I was in Social Studies class when someone came knocking on the door and reported to the teacher that Space Shuttle exploded. Everyone in class laughed. My next class was Science and they rolled in the television to watch the coverage. That's when students starting make the horrible jokes we hear all the time now. "What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts." "What did Christa McAuliffe tell her husband on the day of the launch? You feed the dog. I'll feed the fish." "What was Christa McAulliffe's last words? What's this red button for?"

I think you get the picture. Boy were we assholes back then.


Kids are assholes. Unless they mock a native American in which case they are irredeemable racists who should be banned from society forever because nobody who is just an asshole would do something like that.
 
2019-01-29 03:12:22 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: tothekor: I was in Social Studies class when someone came knocking on the door and reported to the teacher that Space Shuttle exploded. Everyone in class laughed. My next class was Science and they rolled in the television to watch the coverage. That's when students starting make the horrible jokes we hear all the time now. "What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts." "What did Christa McAuliffe tell her husband on the day of the launch? You feed the dog. I'll feed the fish." "What was Christa McAulliffe's last words? What's this red button for?"

I think you get the picture. Boy were we assholes back then.

They were savage. I remember them. "They found Christa McAulliffe's shampoo on the beach. What's it called? Head and shoulders."


NASA is going to start doing endorsement deals.  "Today's shuttle launch is brought to you by Ocean Spray."
 
2019-01-29 03:12:47 PM  

mcsiegs: Is it still speculated that they were all alive in the cabin until they hit the water?


Yeah, James Taylor wrote a song about it, presciently.
 
2019-01-29 03:15:55 PM  
Hands up who tried to impress a girl at a party being edgy by telling Challenger jokes only to find out she was one of Christa McAullufe's students who was there that day when it happened.

No one? So I'm still the only one that has ever happened to? I thought so.

/no, sir, since you asked, I did not get laid that night
 
2019-01-29 03:17:14 PM  

gunga galunga: Hands up who tried to impress a girl at a party being edgy by telling Challenger jokes only to find out she was one of Christa McAullufe's students who was there that day when it happened.

No one? So I'm still the only one that has ever happened to? I thought so.

/no, sir, since you asked, I did not get laid that night



Wow.
 
2019-01-29 03:17:36 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: Solid State Vittles: The explosion of Challenger and the deaths of its crew, including Teacher-in all over Space Christa McAuliffe


FTFY


I was thinking of going with Teacher-in-Space-Sky Christa McAuliffe but I didn't want to be rude.
 
2019-01-29 03:17:45 PM  
I read an article that I am trying to find where the vultures that we call the press started hounding the kids to get reactions. It didn't go well for them.
 
2019-01-29 03:19:30 PM  

The_Sponge: gunga galunga: Hands up who tried to impress a girl at a party being edgy by telling Challenger jokes only to find out she was one of Christa McAullufe's students who was there that day when it happened.

No one? So I'm still the only one that has ever happened to? I thought so.

/no, sir, since you asked, I did not get laid that night


Wow.


Yup.

Have to GBTW, but long story short. She knew I didn't know and wouldn't have told those jokes if I did, and I was incredibly sorry. Nevertheless, I upset her terribly and she made it clear she wanted me to stay the fark away from her.

I fled the party ten minutes later.
 
2019-01-29 03:19:33 PM  

monty666: mcsiegs: Is it still speculated that they were all alive in the cabin until they hit the water?

Yeah, James Taylor wrote a song about it, presciently.


Last I read the theory was that even if they were alive they would have been unconscious from the g-forces.
 
2019-01-29 03:20:22 PM  

The_Sponge: LarryDan43: My sister worked for Thiokol and I like to blame her. Although she was just 7 when it happened.


Ditto.

/I mean that I was 7 at the time.
//And not that I blame your sister.


I bet you went right along with her  diabolical plans.  She was pretty hot.

What? You were 7 too, gosh.
 
2019-01-29 03:21:21 PM  
It's called the Normalization of Deviance. This is #1 in a great series of videos about it.
Mike Mullane - Normalisation of deviance - IAFF - Part 1
Youtube Ljzj9Msli5o
 
2019-01-29 03:21:58 PM  

gunga galunga: The_Sponge: gunga galunga: Hands up who tried to impress a girl at a party being edgy by telling Challenger jokes only to find out she was one of Christa McAullufe's students who was there that day when it happened.

No one? So I'm still the only one that has ever happened to? I thought so.

/no, sir, since you asked, I did not get laid that night


Wow.

Yup.

Have to GBTW, but long story short. She knew I didn't know and wouldn't have told those jokes if I did, and I was incredibly sorry. Nevertheless, I upset her terribly and she made it clear she wanted me to stay the fark away from her.

I fled the party ten minutes 73 seconds later.


Fixed.
 
2019-01-29 03:24:30 PM  

pounddawg: As someone who watched this at a time "when they rolled the TV cart into the classroom"

We didn't know what to do.
/the teacher didn't either


9/11 was the "rolled the TV cart into the classroom" moment I remember most.

/Challenger was a little before my time.
//Hadn't heard the challenger jokes.  But I remember the 9/11 ones.
///I'll never forget those jokes.
 
2019-01-29 03:24:39 PM  
I think that's one of those moments that people remember like when JFK was assassinated.  I was in 3rd grade and on my way to gym class when I overheard a teacher tell my teacher that the space shuttle blew up.  Then I proceeded to kick ass in dodge ball.  Win some lose some that day.
 
2019-01-29 03:26:50 PM  
ITS'

Oh come on!
 
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