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2019-01-20 05:09:42 PM  
Nope but it is a good riftrax.
 
2019-01-20 05:17:58 PM  
concluded that people who used cannabis at age 15 were more than four times as likely to develop schizophrenia.

Which is why it's 21 and up where it's legal, dipshiat, and schizophrenia is known to have a large genetic component as well as a stress component. We don't completely outlaw plants because a tiny portion of the population might one say have a bad reaction that they'd already have had eventually anyway.

His prime assertion is that we've been hoodwinked by the legalization lobby.

No, we were hoodwinked by prohibitionists, and we are rectifying the wrong presently. Good day sir. I SAID GOOD DAY.
 
2019-01-20 05:22:26 PM  
I started smoking when I was 13, and we've always been perfikly nurml
 
2019-01-20 05:23:22 PM  
A provocative new book by a former New York Times

A former New York Times you say?

he posits that North America's much higher marijuana use than Europe's is one reason that there is an opioid addiction crisis here.

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2019-01-20 05:38:57 PM  
The rates of schizophrenia diagnosis have NOT doubled over the last decade. Shut yer hole.
 
2019-01-20 05:44:11 PM  
Writing a Scare Book by ignoring the need for controlled studies, mistaking correlation for causation, and cherry picking your data appears to be a good way to get lots of attention.
 
2019-01-20 05:52:44 PM  
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2019-01-20 05:54:11 PM  

fusillade762: he posits that North America's much higher marijuana use than Europe's is one reason that there is an opioid addiction crisis here.

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Funny, seems like all the news articles are showing that the opioid crisis was caused wild over-prescribing it, along with lots of "bonus" sales money
 
2019-01-20 06:10:03 PM  
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2019-01-20 06:36:12 PM  
Alan Cumming - Reefer Madness
Youtube 8P_qjLhtA74
 
2019-01-20 07:04:42 PM  
ag·it·prop
/ˈajətˌpräp/
noun
political (originally communist) propaganda, especially in art or literature.
 
2019-01-20 07:33:49 PM  
Have you ever watched Reefer Madness....


....on weed?
 
2019-01-20 07:35:42 PM  
Singal disputed Berenson's claim of "sharp increases in murders and aggravated assaults since 2014," saying that while Oregon's murder rate rose 1.0 per cent from 2015 to 2016 (compared to the national rate of 7.9 per cent), it dropped 11.6 per cent between 2016 and 2017.

But what Berenson wrote is this: "Combined, the four states saw a 35 per cent increase in murders and a 25 per cent increase in assaults between 2013 and 2017, far outpacing the national trend even adjusting for population."


Cannabevets-like research detected.
 
2019-01-20 07:35:51 PM  
Finally somebody is telling it like it is.
 
2019-01-20 07:36:27 PM  
Cab Calloway - Reefer Man (1932)
Youtube QzNgAEqPyMI
 
2019-01-20 07:38:28 PM  

King Something: Have you ever watched Reefer Madness....


....on weed?


Isn't that the proper way to watch it?

/has
 
2019-01-20 07:39:31 PM  
You can make the statistic say anything you want, especially if you're just pulling random numbers out yer ass.

/ I do not partake
// nearly all of my friends do
/// I'm the most violent psychotic of the bunch
 
2019-01-20 07:39:52 PM  
When I think hippies, I think violence. Those drunks are just so mellow.
 
2019-01-20 07:43:24 PM  

Ima4nic8or: Finally somebody is telling it like it is.


Confusing correlation with causation and flat out intentionally misleading is "telling it like it is"? You and I must have very different definitions of "telling it like it is".

FTFA:
Singal disputed Berenson's claim of "sharp increases in murders and aggravated assaults since 2014," saying that while Oregon's murder rate rose 1.0 per cent from 2015 to 2016 (compared to the national rate of 7.9 per cent), it dropped 11.6 per cent between 2016 and 2017.
But what Berenson wrote is this: "Combined, the four states saw a 35 per cent increase in murders and a 25 per cent increase in assaults between 2013 and 2017, far outpacing the national trend even adjusting for population."
He also added a caveat. "Knowing exactly how many of these crimes are related to marijuana is impossible without researching each of them in detail."
 
2019-01-20 07:44:00 PM  
Maybe schizotypal teenagers seek out marijuana to ease their angst...and not that it causes schizophrenia. In the same way that nearly every schizo smokes cigarettes or uses nicotine in some way. That doesn't mean every smoker is schizo.

Half-truth science and a book written that specifically panders to the ignorant xeno.

Will we have potheads? Yep. But they're more fun than violent alcoholics.
 
2019-01-20 07:45:25 PM  
 a journalist, turned-crime-novelist, turned-non-fiction-author

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2019-01-20 07:49:46 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I started smoking when I was 13, and we've always been perfikly nurml


Me two
 
2019-01-20 07:50:12 PM  
As a teen, I used to hang out in a small pool hall near my home. Almost everyone there over the age of 15 were smoking joints almost constantly, and he ventilation was pretty much zero. You could get a buzz just being in the room for 15 min. Not only did it now mess me up, but I made a fortune playing high stakes game of snooker table golf over the years. Thanks to weed! lol
 
2019-01-20 07:51:14 PM  
I like weed. Recently switched to vaping. Like it even more.
 
2019-01-20 07:54:12 PM  

tuxq: Maybe schizotypal teenagers seek out marijuana to ease their angst...and not that it causes schizophrenia. In the same way that nearly every schizo smokes cigarettes or uses nicotine in some way. That doesn't mean every smoker is schizo.

Half-truth science and a book written that specifically panders to the ignorant xeno.

Will we have potheads? Yep. But they're more fun than violent alcoholics.


I have a friend who is a super fun mellow drunk but an anhry, slapping people the couple times she got stoned. Thankfully, she's only 4'9", so mainly, guys just gotta watch their balls.
 
2019-01-20 07:59:45 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: As a teen, I used to hang out in a small pool hall near my home. Almost everyone there over the age of 15 were smoking joints almost constantly, and he ventilation was pretty much zero. You could get a buzz just being in the room for 15 min. Not only did it now mess me up, but I made a fortune playing high stakes game of snooker table golf over the years. Thanks to weed! lol


Snooker table? Go on...

/zip
 
2019-01-20 07:59:58 PM  

envirovore: King Something: Have you ever watched Reefer Madness....


....on weed?

Isn't that the proper way to watch it?

/has


It is a pretty shiatty movie high or sober
 
2019-01-20 08:00:57 PM  
Marijuana use causes mental illness?  That's bonkers.  The author of this book must be smoking something.

Raoul Eaton: mistaking correlation for causation


Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?

mongbiohazard: Confusing correlation with causation


Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?

whither_apophis: fusillade762: he posits that North America's much higher marijuana use than Europe's is one reason that there is an opioid addiction crisis here.

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Funny, seems like all the news articles are showing that the opioid crisis was caused wild over-prescribing it, along with lots of "bonus" sales money


Might ring truer in Canada, where the Vancouver area is at once the center of the weed legalization "movement" and the area hardest hit by the opioid crisis, as is pointed out in TFA.
 
2019-01-20 08:02:24 PM  
Let's just assume for a minute that this guy is right.

Okay, now that we're done laughing, are the damages associated with cannabis on the same level as the damages associated with it being illegal? Cartels and organized crime, police locking people away, police ruining people's lives, lost tax revenue, lost medical research, lost new drugs developed from said research, use of other drugs like alcohol as legal substitutes?

Somehow I think he's a farking idiot.
 
2019-01-20 08:03:54 PM  

spacechecker: Pointy Tail of Satan: As a teen, I used to hang out in a small pool hall near my home. Almost everyone there over the age of 15 were smoking joints almost constantly, and he ventilation was pretty much zero. You could get a buzz just being in the room for 15 min. Not only did it now mess me up, but I made a fortune playing high stakes game of snooker table golf over the years. Thanks to weed! lol

Snooker table? Go on...

/zip


Aww dammit. That's a real thing. I was hoping to make a joke off of a typo like I've seen other cool people do. I'll go back to the nerd table now. Womp womp wooooomp
 
2019-01-20 08:03:59 PM  
I don't think occasional weed smoking is particularly harmful, but every single regular user that I know is a complete and utter moron. They're all emotionally and educationally stunted, and they all goof off incessantly and act like they're teenagers; basically, none of them try to actually be good at anything. I can't say that it's the weed that causes it, but it's an extremely strong correlation among my small sample size.
 
2019-01-20 08:08:26 PM  

tirob: Marijuana use causes mental illness?  That's bonkers.  The author of this book must be smoking something.

Raoul Eaton: mistaking correlation for causation

Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?

mongbiohazard: Confusing correlation with causation

Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?

whither_apophis: fusillade762: he posits that North America's much higher marijuana use than Europe's is one reason that there is an opioid addiction crisis here.

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Funny, seems like all the news articles are showing that the opioid crisis was caused wild over-prescribing it, along with lots of "bonus" sales money

Might ring truer in Canada, where the Vancouver area is at once the center of the weed legalization "movement" and the area hardest hit by the opioid crisis, as is pointed out in TFA.


Vancouver has had a heroin problem for decades and pot did not cause it.
 
2019-01-20 08:11:52 PM  
Level the playing field.  Drop the proof or percent alcohol metric, and you could prove that alcohol is responsible for everything from bad hair days to an increase in zombies.

For a drug that is not well studied and has no clear way of gauging "how much" and "what strength" is being used, crap like this article needs a black box warning.    That standard unit problem needs to be addressed.

They haven't even started to create a standard unit for cannibis intoxication or for number of times a day  limits for masturbation, for that matter.
 
2019-01-20 08:14:50 PM  

tirob: Marijuana use causes mental illness?  That's bonkers.  The author of this book must be smoking something.

Raoul Eaton: mistaking correlation for causation

Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?

mongbiohazard: Confusing correlation with causation

Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?

whither_apophis: fusillade762: he posits that North America's much higher marijuana use than Europe's is one reason that there is an opioid addiction crisis here.

[img.fark.net image 498x219]

Funny, seems like all the news articles are showing that the opioid crisis was caused wild over-prescribing it, along with lots of "bonus" sales money

Might ring truer in Canada, where the Vancouver area is at once the center of the weed legalization "movement" and the area hardest hit by the opioid crisis, as is pointed out in TFA.


Vancouver is also the popular Canadian port for "Asian Deliveries", and a great climate to grow weed at the same time.
 
2019-01-20 08:16:19 PM  
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2019-01-20 08:21:24 PM  

some_beer_drinker: I like weed.


I like weed, too!
 
2019-01-20 08:24:56 PM  

alechemist: Nope but it is a good riftrax.


I like "Maniac."
From the people who brought you Reefer Madness, here's some drug-free madness.
 
2019-01-20 08:33:43 PM  

fusillade762: A provocative new book by a former New York Times

A former New York Times you say?

he posits that North America's much higher marijuana use than Europe's is one reason that there is an opioid addiction crisis here.

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Yeah. That checks out. It's also probably why we have so many more instances of heart disease and diabetes.
 
2019-01-20 08:36:32 PM  
I've never seen a person in a recreational weed shop who wasn't chill as fark so you will please take note of my skepticism here.
 
2019-01-20 08:38:53 PM  

tirob: Marijuana use causes mental illness?  That's bonkers.  The author of this book must be smoking something.

Raoul Eaton: mistaking correlation for causation

Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?

mongbiohazard: Confusing correlation with causation

Are you *sure* you want to argue that mentally ill people are more likely to use weed than people who have not been diagnosed with a mental illness?


What's wrong with acknowledging that self-medicating behavior exists?  Aside from the fact that if it works for even a few people, then your pot-is-EEEVIL nonsense goes up in smoke, that is.
 
2019-01-20 08:43:35 PM  
Schizophrenia rates by geography (with red being higher incidence):

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Note: many countries that are intolerant of cannabis have high schizophrenia rates.  For example, Singapore is ranked 7th (312 cases per 100,000) in the world.  Anyone think cannabis use is the reason for that?

/US rate: 185 per 100,000
 
2019-01-20 08:45:47 PM  
After nearly a century of lies. I'm sure people will listen.
 
2019-01-20 08:46:06 PM  
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2019-01-20 09:10:10 PM  
Marijuana makes you violent? Better get back to butt-chugging, alcohol has never demonstrated an association with violence.
 
2019-01-20 09:36:21 PM  

whither_apophis: fusillade762: he posits that North America's much higher marijuana use than Europe's is one reason that there is an opioid addiction crisis here.

[img.fark.net image 498x219]

Funny, seems like all the news articles are showing that the opioid crisis was caused wild over-prescribing it, along with lots of "bonus" sales money


Not to mention opioid deaths go down when states legalize medical marijuana.
 
2019-01-20 09:45:52 PM  
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2019-01-20 09:48:18 PM  
IF ONLY BECKY HAD READ THIS !!!
 
2019-01-20 09:49:46 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/8P_qjLht​A74]


Mary Jane/Mary Lane
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2019-01-20 09:51:54 PM  
I've known potheads. And I can't say anything about psychosis and "reefer madness", but those that are the daily-use sort always seem a bit... slow. Not stupid, some of them are quite bright. But rather, it's like their brains work the way that Shatner speaks.

/ playing with your brain chemistry before it's fully formed is a bold move
 
2019-01-20 10:05:37 PM  
Unpopular opinion: Pot is not harmless. I'll just leave it at that.
 
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