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(The Raw Story)   Eleven million immigrants deported at a cost of $10,854 per deportee (according to ICE) equals $119,384,000,000. Sure Don Don, pull the trigger on that bluff   (rawstory.com) divider line
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2019-01-20 09:44:18 AM  
Imagine living in a world where forty percent of the country thinks three percent of the country is the reason they can't get a job.
 
2019-01-20 09:51:59 AM  
Nancy Pelosi has behaved so irrationally & has gone so far to the left that she has now officially become a Radical Democrat.

Wait, what was she before?
 
2019-01-20 09:55:21 AM  
I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.
 
2019-01-20 10:04:18 AM  
This is the lowball estimate. There are estimates as high as $620 billion.
 
2019-01-20 10:06:24 AM  
Good call subby.  It reminds me when the phone companies switched from rotary to touch tone (get off my lawn BTW).  The phone companies charged clients for the feature when it reality the touch tone switches save them a bloody fortune.  The wanted to swap people as quickly as possible but they also saw money to made.

In the same way - a temporary extension of DACA allows Trump to kick the can down the road and pretend he is offering something.  No negotiation until Trump re-opens the Government.  Stick with that.
 
2019-01-20 10:08:06 AM  

Pavia_Resistance: This is the lowball estimate. There are estimates as high as $620 billion.


to put that into perspective, that would be like paying off over 4,700,000 pornstars.
 
2019-01-20 10:10:04 AM  
It would probably cost $10k just to fly them to their home country. After they were located, detained, tried, locked up, processed and eventually deported.  That would easily be way more.
 
2019-01-20 10:14:27 AM  
The trump/McConnell shutdown has cost the US a little over 1% in GDP reduction so far, if donnie followed through on this threat it would cost  10%+  reduction in GDP for a few years.
 
2019-01-20 10:15:20 AM  

mrshowrules: Pavia_Resistance: This is the lowball estimate. There are estimates as high as $620 billion.

to put that into perspective, that would be like paying off over 4,700,000 pornstars.


Is "Stormy Daniels" becoming a unit a measure for money like Rhode Island is for geographic area?
 
2019-01-20 10:16:33 AM  

enry: Nancy Pelosi has behaved so irrationally & has gone so far to the left that she has now officially become a Radical Democrat.

Wait, what was she before?


Are we to believe bag is a problem?
 
2019-01-20 10:17:18 AM  

BizarreMan: enry: Nancy Pelosi has behaved so irrationally & has gone so far to the left that she has now officially become a Radical Democrat.

Wait, what was she before?

Are we to believe bag is a problem?


Believe that is a problem.. damn you auto correct
 
2019-01-20 10:21:43 AM  

BizarreMan: BizarreMan: enry: Nancy Pelosi has behaved so irrationally & has gone so far to the left that she has now officially become a Radical Democrat.

Wait, what was she before?

Are we to believe bag is a problem?

Believe that is a problem.. damn you auto correct


Also a good question.
 
2019-01-20 10:28:32 AM  
Their very absence would be a huge negative impact on the US economy.
 
2019-01-20 10:29:06 AM  

BizarreMan: Are we to believe bag is a problem?


That's not by bag, baby!
 
2019-01-20 10:30:41 AM  

mrshowrules: No negotiation until Trump re-opens the Government. Stick with that.


Exactly right.  You don't get to have your way by throwing wrenches into the gears.  That's a very dangerous precedent.
 
2019-01-20 10:40:57 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: mrshowrules: No negotiation until Trump re-opens the Government. Stick with that.

Exactly right.  You don't get to have your way by throwing wrenches into the gears.  That's a very dangerous precedent.


It's virtually unpresidented.
 
2019-01-20 10:42:19 AM  
His plan is not to waste money on things like due process, asylum hearings, human detention, etc.

If they look like illegals, put 'em on a bus to TJ and let Mexico sort'em out.

And if a few brown or black citizen-voters get deported by "accident" the important thing is that the trains ran on time.
 
2019-01-20 11:03:53 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Imagine living in a world where forty percent of the country thinks three percent of the country is the reason they can't get a job.


The 3%ers, folks.
 
2019-01-20 11:04:07 AM  
I would love for Pelosi to fire back that at least she isn't scared of Coulter or Limbaugh like Trump is.
 
2019-01-20 11:04:26 AM  
I'm sure all those ICE officers who have already missed one paycheck, and are on track to miss at least one more, will be happy to round up 11 million people for you for free.
 
2019-01-20 11:04:28 AM  

thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.


You missed some zeros...
 
2019-01-20 11:05:47 AM  

thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.


Username checks out.
 
2019-01-20 11:06:06 AM  

Hills-Sachs_Legion: I'm sure all those ICE officers who have already missed one paycheck, and are on track to miss at least one more, will be happy to round up 11 million people for you for free.


ICE agents and Border Patrol officers are probably going to be even more open to bribes than they are already.

/protip: they were pretty damn open to bribes before the shutdown
 
2019-01-20 11:06:08 AM  
That's only the direct cost. You also have to account for the economic impact of losing 11 million consumers.
 
2019-01-20 11:06:22 AM  
It's not so much a carrot as it is a mushroom, not so much a stick as a matchhead.

/IYKWIMAITYD
 
2019-01-20 11:07:08 AM  

thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.


$119 Billion with B
/still probably cheaper than a full buildout of the wall
//both are terrible ideas
 
2019-01-20 11:08:02 AM  
Trump is running into the same problem the Reich had in getting rid of the Jews.  It's not cost-effective.  I wonder what his final solution might be?

Yes, I went there.  I don't give a crap anymore.  Or, to quote the Trumper motto "Fark your feelings."
 
2019-01-20 11:08:28 AM  

BMulligan: That's only the direct cost. You also have to account for the economic impact of losing 11 million consumers.


And workers.
 
2019-01-20 11:09:05 AM  

Pavia_Resistance: mrshowrules: Pavia_Resistance: This is the lowball estimate. There are estimates as high as $620 billion.

to put that into perspective, that would be like paying off over 4,700,000 pornstars.

Is "Stormy Daniels" becoming a unit a measure for money like Rhode Island is for geographic area?


Partially correct. Stormy Daniels is indeed now a unit of measurement but I almost always see it used wrong. Stormy Daniels is a measure of buoyancy
 
2019-01-20 11:09:21 AM  
Anyone else hate these articles that are essentially just telling you what was in some tweets, and then also showing the tweets? Either pick one, or do some analysis and report context. The current way is just stupid.
 
2019-01-20 11:10:30 AM  
Don't forget the devastating effects to the economy.

But yeah, he'd do that in a second if he had the chance.
 
2019-01-20 11:11:06 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: I would love for Pelosi to fire back that at least she isn't scared of Coulter or Limbaugh like Trump is.


That would feel awesome. But purely from a political strategy perspective, best to let the pundits say that for her.
 
2019-01-20 11:12:41 AM  

mrshowrules: Good call subby.  It reminds me when the phone companies switched from rotary to touch tone (get off my lawn BTW).  The phone companies charged clients for the feature when it reality the touch tone switches save them a bloody fortune.  The wanted to swap people as quickly as possible but they also saw money to made.

In the same way - a temporary extension of DACA allows Trump to kick the can down the road and pretend he is offering something.  No negotiation until Trump re-opens the Government.  Stick with that.


We stayed with rotary because it was cheaper but also because by just picking up your receiver it connected a line, whether you dialled or not, and that cost them money and a line (you don't pay unless you dial). I didn't like them trying to charge me more for what cost them less so, when I was out, the phone was off the hook and they were on the hook.
 
2019-01-20 11:13:36 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Imagine living in a world where forty percent of the country thinks three percent of the country is the reason they can't get a job.


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2019-01-20 11:14:02 AM  

emersonbiggins: thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.

$119 Billion with B
/still probably cheaper than a full buildout of the wall
//both are terrible ideas


I've heard various cost numbers for building a wall, but has ongoing maintenance costs ever been given?

I know any semblance of future planning from this administration is a pipe dream. Why anyone would think that a guy whose whole business MO was to run up debt and then leave everyone else with the responsibility of paying it while he pockets profit and runs was a good idea I'll never understand.  Thanks idiots.
 
2019-01-20 11:14:19 AM  

emersonbiggins: thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.

$119 Billion with B
/still probably cheaper than a full buildout of the wall
//both are terrible ideas

Judges would have also accepted "user name checks out."
 
2019-01-20 11:14:29 AM  

mrshowrules: Pavia_Resistance: This is the lowball estimate. There are estimates as high as $620 billion.

to put that into perspective, that would be like paying off over 4,700,000 pornstars.


.
That's a LOT of fake boobs.
 
2019-01-20 11:14:58 AM  
I agree. Time to start deporting these illegal immigrants and punish the people who hire them.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us​/​trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-wor​kers.html
 
2019-01-20 11:15:45 AM  

Pavia_Resistance: mrshowrules: Pavia_Resistance: This is the lowball estimate. There are estimates as high as $620 billion.

to put that into perspective, that would be like paying off over 4,700,000 pornstars.

Is "Stormy Daniels" becoming a unit a measure for money like Rhode Island is for geographic area?


.

I'll get back to you on that in a Scaramucci.
 
2019-01-20 11:16:16 AM  

thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.


emersonbiggins: thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.

$119 Billion with B
/still probably cheaper than a full buildout of the wall
//both are terrible ideas


$119,384,000,000 isn't $119 Billion, it's $119 Trillion. a.k.a. more than five times the current US debt.

It would be easier to eat Taco Bell and try to shart yourself to the moon than to get that much funding.
 
2019-01-20 11:18:01 AM  

BMulligan: That's only the direct cost. You also have to account for the economic impact of losing 11 million consumers.


Also a good percentage of them are workers, usually working at fairly low wages.  That being said, thet will create a labor shortage, which would cause wages to rise due to the fact that noone else would do the jobs they do for the amount currently being offered, or worse yet, the job does not get filled. And product shortages will occur.
 
2019-01-20 11:18:02 AM  
Mexico will pay for it
 
2019-01-20 11:18:20 AM  

Mike_LowELL: Imagine living in a world where forty percent of the country thinks three percent of the country is the reason they can't get a job.


Alright ghost of Don LaFontaine you're creeping us out now with movie intros
 
2019-01-20 11:18:24 AM  
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2019-01-20 11:18:55 AM  
If I'm reading that last tweet right, he's trying to hold her to her original invitation to speak to Congress per their "contract".  We all know how he respects contracts.
 
2019-01-20 11:19:10 AM  

thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.


Math is hard
 
2019-01-20 11:19:22 AM  
If it happens all at once there will be some synergies that'll bring the whole thing down to $106.5B, and those savings will be passed on to the customer.

.

the dot indicates sarcasm
 
2019-01-20 11:20:35 AM  

R0AHN: $119,384,000,000 isn't $119 Billion, it's $119 Trillion.


uh
 
2019-01-20 11:20:43 AM  
So, he is acknowledging that allowing or removing illegal immigrants isn't about safety or the economy, but about leverage and hostages.  He isn't saying that he will remove 11 million undocumented immigrants because of some fictional crisis, but because a rival politician pisses him off.
 
2019-01-20 11:23:31 AM  

R0AHN: thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.

emersonbiggins: thedumbone: I don't get it.  He's pushing hard for a $5.7B down payment for a wall that has pretty questionable effectiveness.  $119M for concrete action sounds almost reasonable.

All he has to so now is find all those illegals.  It's weird that we haven't been trying to deport them before now.

$119 Billion with B
/still probably cheaper than a full buildout of the wall
//both are terrible ideas

$119,384,000,000 isn't $119 Billion, it's $119 Trillion. a.k.a. more than five times the current US debt.

It would be easier to eat Taco Bell and try to shart yourself to the moon than to get that much funding.


Math is hard
x000 =  thousand
x000,000 = million
x000,000,000 = billion
x000,000,000,000 = trillion
 
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