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(Palm Beach Post)   How much is the fine for removing a human kidney by mistake if the doc doesn't bother to read the patient's medical file? 300,000. Cents   (palmbeachpost.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Physician, Dr. Ramon Vazquez, Surgery, Medicine, West Palm Beach surgeon, Maureen Pacheco, patient's medical condition, Dr. Vazquez  
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2019-01-13 03:12:54 PM  
"It's a sad day when a doctor places blame on his patient after needlessly removing one of her vital organs," Ward said.

Gee...ya think?

"Hey doc...I keep getting headaches.  I think it's brain cancer."

"Let's open up that skull!"
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2019-01-13 03:31:31 PM  
They should be paying at least the hospital costs associated with such a removal and I doubt that's as little as 30k
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2019-01-13 04:41:29 PM  
TFA: The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation. Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.
 
2019-01-13 05:04:04 PM  

Xai: They should be paying at least the hospital costs associated with such a removal and I doubt that's as little as 30k


Uh, you're still off by a zero.

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From TFA:  
The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation.
Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.


So the patient is getting over half a million in compensation. Not bad, assuming her lawyer doesn't take most of it.

In addition to the $3,000, the mistaken surgeon has to pay a little under $5,000 for remedial classes, give an hour long lecture on what amounts to "How I Farked Up" and pay some other undisclosed (but probably large) amount to the pile of settlement money.

Considering this is the guys' only significant mistake so far in a very distinguished career and the kidney was in a weird location... meh. I think it's fair.

Considering the severe "economic anxiety" I'm currently in I'd be thrilled to trade a kidney for that amount.
 
2019-01-13 05:23:02 PM  
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2019-01-13 06:27:21 PM  

Diogenes: "Hey doc...I keep getting headaches. I think it's brain cancer."

"Let's open up that skull!"


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2019-01-13 06:28:02 PM  
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2019-01-13 06:30:54 PM  
Medical malpractice is the #1 killer in the US. Above overdose, homicide, suicide, arkanicide, cancer, the government and Amazon.
 
2019-01-13 06:32:03 PM  
Note the $3000 was the sanction by the state against the surgeon.   The patient settled for an "undisclosed sum" with the doctor.
 
2019-01-13 06:32:39 PM  
"undeveloped but functioning"

Maybe "underdeveloped"?  Otherwise it was just a meat lump.
 
2019-01-13 06:34:17 PM  
$3000!!  WHOOT WHOOT!1!

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2019-01-13 06:35:10 PM  
Subby posts like a Democrat.
 
2019-01-13 06:37:25 PM  

Riche: Considering the severe "economic anxiety" I'm currently in I'd be thrilled to trade a kidney for that amount.


Have you tried hating everyone different from you and blaming them for all your problems? I heard that works great for a lot of people.
 
2019-01-13 06:37:30 PM  
Paging the Dr Death podcast crew
 
2019-01-13 06:44:10 PM  

ZAZ: TFA: The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation. Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.


How are you allowed to practice without malpractice insurance?!
 
2019-01-13 06:47:04 PM  
At that cost, he could remove both and get one right and cover the cost of the one that's a mistake.
 
2019-01-13 06:51:55 PM  

TOSViolation: Subby posts like a Democrat.


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"Democrats are the biggest liars, I know it, you know it, everyone knows it. Believe me!"
 
2019-01-13 06:53:04 PM  
Someone is on a really lazy threadshiatting spree.
 
2019-01-13 06:58:42 PM  

tuxq: Medical malpractice is the #1 killer in the US. Above overdose, homicide, suicide, arkanicide, cancer, the government and Amazon.


Being born is actually the number 1 reason that people are killed.

I say we do away with both birthing and medical procedures.  It's the only way to be sure more people are killed.
 
2019-01-13 07:05:04 PM  
FTA, she got 250k from each surgeon already. this one was the smart? one who didn't carry malpractice insurance and got thrown under the medical board review bus and came out practically unscathed.

This is just his professional licks, he'll probably get more civil actions soon enough.

It's nearly impossible to tell cancer from normal cells without a biopsy and analyzing the cellular composition. Not until its way too late to do anything about.
 
2019-01-13 07:07:17 PM  

flemardo: "undeveloped but functioning"

Maybe "underdeveloped"?  Otherwise it was just a meat lump.


Your gonads and kidneys and adrenals all form as the same organ and split. There's a LOT of people with streak organs where they didn't divide or grow and a lot of people who have multiples of each where it divided more than once.
 
2019-01-13 07:24:55 PM  
"How much is a human kidney worth if the doc removes it by mistake after not bothering to read the patient's medical file? 300,000. Cents"

That makes zero cents.
 
2019-01-13 07:31:20 PM  
After lawyers' fees, that works out to about tree fiddy.
 
2019-01-13 08:17:16 PM  

Riche: In addition to the $3,000, the mistaken surgeon has to pay a little under $5,000 for remedial classes, give an hour long lecture on what amounts to "How I Farked Up" and pay some other undisclosed (but probably large) amount to the pile of settlement money.


Used to be a website Hog on Ice, guy was a lawyer in Florida saying how useless the mandated annual classes were.  He turned into a religious fundie, closed down HogOnIce and started a new site that was nothing but religious BS.

Hogonice was one of my goto daily pages, I miss it.  His new site (been 10 years or so now), can fark right off.

I wonder how his dad is, he used to talk about him all the time.

/ been trying to buy his book for years now
// take 1:  he's updating it, the original isn't available
/// take 2:  forgot for a while, out of print, it's on my list of "see it buy it"
 
2019-01-13 08:40:54 PM  

mrmopar5287: ZAZ: TFA: The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation. Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.

How are you allowed to practice without malpractice insurance?!


Seriously. I can't even wrap my mind around that.
 
2019-01-13 09:41:23 PM  

thegreatmurgatroid: tuxq: Medical malpractice is the #1 killer in the US. Above overdose, homicide, suicide, arkanicide, cancer, the government and Amazon.

Being born is actually the number 1 reason that people are killed.

I say we do away with both birthing and medical procedures.  It's the only way to be sure more people are killed.


Medical errors aren't necessarily malpractice. But medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death, I think, so it's nothing to make light of.

Source: Johns Hopkins (but what would they know, amiright?)
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/​m​edia/releases/study_suggests_medical_e​rrors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death​_in_the_us
 
2019-01-13 09:47:42 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: thegreatmurgatroid: tuxq: Medical malpractice is the #1 killer in the US. Above overdose, homicide, suicide, arkanicide, cancer, the government and Amazon.

Being born is actually the number 1 reason that people are killed.

I say we do away with both birthing and medical procedures.  It's the only way to be sure more people are killed.

Medical errors aren't necessarily malpractice. But medical errors are the 3rd leading cause of death, I think, so it's nothing to make light of.

Source: Johns Hopkins (but what would they know, amiright?)
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/m​edia/releases/study_suggests_medical_e​rrors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death​_in_the_us


That is, to put in perspective, more than all respiratory diseases, I assume including those from smoking.
 
2019-01-13 10:20:57 PM  
ftfa: 'her kidney never ascended into the abdomen and was located in her pelvic region'

Never heard of a slow-poke kidney before - and looks like that doc didn't pay attention in class that day.
 
2019-01-13 10:33:18 PM  

TOSViolation: Subby posts like a Democrat.


Nice! Thank's for the compliamant!
 
2019-01-13 11:06:23 PM  
Nobody?

Ok.

So, did they search the doctor for Fava beans?
 
2019-01-13 11:49:58 PM  

mrmopar5287: ZAZ: TFA: The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation. Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.

How are you allowed to practice without malpractice insurance?!


I challenge you to find cardiac surgeons or obstetricians that carry malpractice now. Know why? This shiat. They get sued for crap all the time. If they dont carry it they are much less likely to get sued for petty crap and only for serious medical mistakes. All thier assets will be protected and they have made themselves relatively judgement proof. Welcome to GOP medicine and justice.
 
2019-01-14 12:40:35 AM  

aseras: mrmopar5287: ZAZ: TFA: The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation. Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.

How are you allowed to practice without malpractice insurance?!

I challenge you to find cardiac surgeons or obstetricians that carry malpractice now. Know why? This shiat. They get sued for crap all the time. If they dont carry it they are much less likely to get sued for petty crap and only for serious medical mistakes. All thier assets will be protected and they have made themselves relatively judgement proof. Welcome to GOP medicine and justice.


I guess your last sentence explains it all, but still ... I thought the point of malpractice insurance was to prevent a patient who has a strong case that a doctor acted ignorantly and arrogantly and caused actual harm from depriving said doctor of some personal luxuries via a court judgment.
Also, why wouldn't a hospital require a doctor to have malpractice insurance as a condition of privileges?
 
2019-01-14 02:36:27 AM  

Alcaste: TOSViolation: Subby posts like a Democrat.

Nice! Thank's for the compliamant!


Democrat-typing detected.
 
2019-01-14 08:39:04 AM  

ZAZ: TFA: The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation. Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.


If I were the patient, I'd insist that a condition of that settlememt wluld be that the doctors have to inform every current, former, and future patient of their negligence in this case.

That plus a quarter million apiece sounds decent.
 
2019-01-14 08:52:55 AM  

mrmopar5287: ZAZ: TFA: The malpractice insurers for Pacheco's primary surgeons, Dr. John Britt and Dr. Jeffrey Kugler, settled for $250,000 apiece, according to the state Office of Insurance Regulation. Vazquez does not carry malpractice insurance and settled the case for a nominal amount, his attorneys have said.

How are you allowed to practice without malpractice insurance?!


Tort reform, a favorite plank of the GOP.

But you knew that.
 
2019-01-14 10:26:40 AM  

TOSViolation: Alcaste: TOSViolation: Subby posts like a Democrat.

Nice! Thank's for the compliamant!

Democrat-typing detected.


The biggest woosh I've ever seen on this website. Don't change, TOSViolation.
 
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