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2019-01-09 09:28:47 PM  
Picard / Orville "mirror dimension" crossover episode.
Get busy and make it happen, lawyers.
 
2019-01-09 09:35:47 PM  
The Picard series will be the first onscreen Trek story set in the aftermath of that event, which would have altered the balance of power in the galaxy.

I see what they did there.
 
2019-01-10 02:45:22 AM  
Jeanne Lucille Picard?
 
2019-01-10 03:01:08 AM  
Reveal he is gay and have Ian McKellen play his husband.
 
2019-01-10 05:39:19 AM  
I don't care if it tastes like pumpkin pie, I'm still not paying for another subscription. If it's good enough, put it on network tv. If not, it's just another good thing greed has killed.
 
2019-01-10 05:54:44 AM  
You're the man now...

http://picard.ytmnd.com/
 
2019-01-10 06:46:29 AM  
Out of all of the potential new Trek they talk about at the bottom of the article, the Michelle Yeoh one has the most of my interest. And the least shiny clean Federation. There may be a correlation, there.
 
2019-01-10 06:55:04 AM  
No calling out farker in headline
 
2019-01-10 07:46:41 AM  
So this will be a Picard who lived his whole life in the Kelvin timeline? Hmm. I'm not sure how they're going to make this work, but obviously they think they can do it.
 
2019-01-10 08:17:04 AM  

bloobeary: Picard / Orville "mirror dimension" crossover episode.
Get busy and make it happen, lawyers.


I've just started The Orville and I have been pleasantly surprised. It's not as good as Discovery but it's not Family Guy in space like I thought.
 
2019-01-10 08:39:41 AM  

bloobeary: Picard / Orville "mirror dimension" crossover episode.
Get busy and make it happen, lawyers.


I'm surprised Stewart hasn't done a cameo on Orville. Hell, I'm surprised he's not a semi-regular voice actor, line a perverted food replicator who only serves penis-shaped entrees.
 
2019-01-10 09:01:03 AM  
Uggggghhh why couldn't they just forget that that movie happened.
 
2019-01-10 09:05:19 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: So this will be a Picard who lived his whole life in the Kelvin timeline? Hmm. I'm not sure how they're going to make this work, but obviously they think they can do it.


It doesn't work, at all. I mean I guess if it's an entirely different Picard in a different universe, which they sort have already done with the TNG movies but why bother?
 
2019-01-10 09:06:15 AM  
so there was a 4 comic series telling the prequel story of 2009 trek, picard and spock getting together to try and stop the supernova that would eat the galaxy (science isn't a big deal to JJ)

end of issue 4 was spock disappearing with that little ship in the black hole (reappearing in the 2009 movie) and you see picard still existing after that (since they made a new timeline).

so I guess this is picard after that 4th comic.

I actually like this treatment from RLM concerning it but it sounds too good.
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2019-01-10 09:06:37 AM  

Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate: Uggggghhh why couldn't they just forget that that movie happened.


The should have done like The Matrix and not made any sequels.
 
2019-01-10 09:11:29 AM  
'If we do this, I want it to be so different, I want it to be both what people remember but also not what they're expecting at all, otherwise why do it?'

Isn't this what literally everyone says about every one of these types of properties?  Easy to say, awfully hard to do
 
2019-01-10 09:14:56 AM  

Naido: 'If we do this, I want it to be so different, I want it to be both what people remember but also not what they're expecting at all, otherwise why do it?'

Isn't this what literally everyone says about every one of these types of properties?  Easy to say, awfully hard to do


It worked great for Jake Skywalker.
 
2019-01-10 09:16:06 AM  

PreMortem: I don't care if it tastes like pumpkin pie, I'm still not paying for another subscription. If it's good enough, put it on network tv. If not, it's just another good thing greed has killed.


I am not paying for a nother subscription service just for one show.

STD fell flat for me so I have no reason for a subscription to something I will barely use.
 
2019-01-10 09:31:19 AM  

CipollinaFan: bloobeary: Picard / Orville "mirror dimension" crossover episode.
Get busy and make it happen, lawyers.

I've just started The Orville and I have been pleasantly surprised. It's not as good as Discovery but it's not Family Guy in space like I thought.


I really wanted to like THE ORVILLE, but even though I can see that MacFarlane is approaching it with
a respect for the original, he can't suspend his sledgehammer style of humour without actual wit enough
to make it work for me.
 
2019-01-10 09:38:05 AM  

rummonkey: PreMortem: I don't care if it tastes like pumpkin pie, I'm still not paying for another subscription. If it's good enough, put it on network tv. If not, it's just another good thing greed has killed.

I am not paying for a nother subscription service just for one show.

STD fell flat for me so I have no reason for a subscription to something I will barely use.


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2019-01-10 09:49:53 AM  

PreMortem: I don't care if it tastes like pumpkin pie, I'm still not paying for another subscription. If it's good enough, put it on network tv. If not, it's just another good thing greed has killed.


To be on network TV it doesn't need to be good, it has to be broad and non-offensive. If you want big budget shows for smaller audiences, subscription services are a good way to finance them. I didn't particularly enjoy Discovery, especially how it wrapped up, but it was well worth the 8 bucks I spent to watch it over the course of 2 months.

If it isn't worth 4 dollars to you to watch a season of high budget star trek, then you aren't the target audience.

But if you are saying that you will ignore the subscription model on principle, you are begging for more NCIS and Autism-Crime-Solver shows.
 
2019-01-10 10:01:25 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: So this will be a Picard who lived his whole life in the Kelvin timeline? Hmm. I'm not sure how they're going to make this work, but obviously they think they can do it.


No, that's not how I read it.  The only person from the "Prime" universe that went to the "Kelvin" timeline was Spock.  He did this AFTER a Supernova took out Romulus and he did it in an attempt to "right" things.

It sounds like this series just takes place in the "Prime" universe after the Romulan Supernova.  It's not clear if it's after Spock leaves to go back time or not, but it does take place in the main Star Trek universe, not the Kelvin one.
 
2019-01-10 10:07:38 AM  
I give it two years tops.

/next generation has not aged well
 
2019-01-10 10:33:44 AM  
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eyes....in the dark......one moon....circles.....

/save us, troy
//one of my favorite episodes!
 
2019-01-10 10:46:49 AM  
I think it was one of the RedLetterMedia guys who saif something along the lines of "NuTrek is Trek made by people who don't like Trek and what it supposed to represent"
 
2019-01-10 10:46:55 AM  

BadReligion: Reveal he is gay and have Ian McKellen play his husband.


Can we have them traveling across the galaxy in a DeLorean with the 2 grumpy men from the muppet show in the back seat?
 
2019-01-10 10:53:11 AM  

Bslim: I think it was one of the RedLetterMedia guys who saif something along the lines of "NuTrek is Trek made by people who don't like Trek and what it supposed to represent"


Having worked with Paramount in Star Trek specifically, it's kind of always been that way. At least since 2000 ish.
 
2019-01-10 11:00:00 AM  

rummonkey: PreMortem: I don't care if it tastes like pumpkin pie, I'm still not paying for another subscription. If it's good enough, put it on network tv. If not, it's just another good thing greed has killed.

I am not paying for a nother subscription service just for one show.

STD fell flat for me so I have no reason for a subscription to something I will barely use.


It occurs to me that most people who watch STD have virtually no chance of catching an STD

/I kid!
//sorry!!
///three!!!
 
2019-01-10 11:27:14 AM  

sno man: Out of all of the potential new Trek they talk about at the bottom of the article, the Michelle Yeoh one has the most of my interest. And the least shiny clean Federation. There may be a correlation, there.


Sounds like a "Section 31" series if she's playing the main character. Time to resubscribe if this is happening...
 
2019-01-10 11:52:19 AM  
From the headline I thought this was going to Picard in the Kelvin timeline which would have been upsetting as I have no desire to see such a thing. I'm fine with this however, with the conclusion of DS9, Voyager and the various movies the main timeline federation universe has changed a lot. The Romulans are gone, the Cardassians are in turmoil, the Klingons have been weakened by multiple wars including a civil war, the Borg are less of a threat, and while the Dominion exist they are unlikely to try to take over the Alpha Quadrant again. Part of my problem with STD was that it went back to the TOS era (I blame executives that don't grasp that most Star Trek fans are fans of the TNG era) instead of continuing the main timeline which is full of potential. The idea of updating the enemies to match real world threats is great and having a race of religious fanatics works fine, they could simple have been a race on the other side of the Cardassian/Romulan border that the Federation had never dealt with before or maybe with their continual defeats and losses a large segment of Klingon population embraces their old dead gods believing that their ancient warrior ways have been lost and thus abandoned Kahless and the Khitomer Accords. The point is that there is a lot of potential outside of the dried up well that is TOS and reconning everything and making the Klingons look different again was all lazy and dumb.
 
2019-01-10 11:58:59 AM  
Do we get Data back in the form of B4's growth?  It was supposed to happen in a new movie, but Nemesis was so poorly received, the sequel was canceled, and we were stuck with a Dataless universe.
 
2019-01-10 12:01:35 PM  

Gyro the Greek Sandwich Pirate: Uggggghhh why couldn't they just forget that that movie happened.


Because taking 3 major movies full of events out of canon will piss off a lot of fanboys, and you know how pissy and biatchy fanboys get.
 
2019-01-10 12:07:14 PM  
Alex Kurtzman, Akiva Goldsman, Kirsten Beyer, Michael Chabon

Not inspiring a lot of confidence with those names, but hopefully they can make something of it.  Chabon is a decent author and Beyer is a Star Trek fanatic(but not a very accomplished author or screenwriter).
 
2019-01-10 12:15:03 PM  

Bruce Campbell vs Army of Farkness: Do we get Data back in the form of B4's growth?  It was supposed to happen in a new movie, but Nemesis was so poorly received, the sequel was canceled, and we were stuck with a Dataless universe.


Maaaan, that movie makes me angry.
 
2019-01-10 12:37:50 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: CipollinaFan: bloobeary: Picard / Orville "mirror dimension" crossover episode.
Get busy and make it happen, lawyers.

I've just started The Orville and I have been pleasantly surprised. It's not as good as Discovery but it's not Family Guy in space like I thought.

I really wanted to like THE ORVILLE, but even though I can see that MacFarlane is approaching it with
a respect for the original, he can't suspend his sledgehammer style of humour without actual wit enough
to make it work for me.


And this years plots are becoming Family Guy in Space...Bortus peeing, Bortus addicted to porn, <insert next Bortus action here>
 
2019-01-10 12:44:23 PM  

Bruce Campbell vs Army of Farkness: Do we get Data back in the form of B4's growth?  It was supposed to happen in a new movie, but Nemesis was so poorly received, the sequel was canceled, and we were stuck with a Dataless universe.


You aren't if Spiner has anything to say about it because he's old and fat (not so much anymore) and portraying an immortal perfect android is kinda difficult, which is why they went to the trouble of killing Data in the first place. If they want to spend the money they can do that CG head de-aging wizard shiat Disney has been playing with. That said, the Countdown comics mentioned in the thread and ST:O depict Data as having overtaken B4 at some point (which is a bit weird as Data always intended for B4 to be his own person/android and only uploaded his memories as a way to maybe kickstart his learning) and was the then-current captain of the Enterprise, with Picard having resigned and become an ambassador to Vulcan.
 
2019-01-10 01:08:08 PM  

gingerjet: I give it two years tops.

/next generation has not aged well


Bullshiate.

I've been rewatching it with my son, who hadn't seen it yet, and it holds up.

/Season 1 still wasn't the greatest, but it quickly became consistently good in Season 2
 
2019-01-10 01:09:01 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: So this will be a Picard who lived his whole life in the Kelvin timeline? Hmm. I'm not sure how they're going to make this work, but obviously they think they can do it.


No, this is in the original TNG timeline after OG Spock got sucked away into the past to make the Kelvin trouser leg.
 
2019-01-10 01:11:42 PM  

vudukungfu: No calling out farker in headline


Now there's a name I have not heard in a long time.
 
2019-01-10 01:13:41 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Bruce Campbell vs Army of Farkness: Do we get Data back in the form of B4's growth?  It was supposed to happen in a new movie, but Nemesis was so poorly received, the sequel was canceled, and we were stuck with a Dataless universe.

You aren't if Spiner has anything to say about it because he's old and fat (not so much anymore) and portraying an immortal perfect android is kinda difficult, which is why they went to the trouble of killing Data in the first place. If they want to spend the money they can do that CG head de-aging wizard shiat Disney has been playing with. That said, the Countdown comics mentioned in the thread and ST:O depict Data as having overtaken B4 at some point (which is a bit weird as Data always intended for B4 to be his own person/android and only uploaded his memories as a way to maybe kickstart his learning) and was the then-current captain of the Enterprise, with Picard having resigned and become an ambassador to Vulcan.


There's a whole bit in the philosophy of personal identity about what makes a person themselves. Nemesis actually did a fantastic job exploring those themes. One of them is whether someone physically identical to you with all of your memories would be the same person.
 
2019-01-10 01:19:36 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Bruce Campbell vs Army of Farkness: Do we get Data back in the form of B4's growth?  It was supposed to happen in a new movie, but Nemesis was so poorly received, the sequel was canceled, and we were stuck with a Dataless universe.

You aren't if Spiner has anything to say about it because he's old and fat (not so much anymore) and portraying an immortal perfect android is kinda difficult, which is why they went to the trouble of killing Data in the first place.


Eh, it isn't to much trouble to say that Data found a way to replicate ageing to better get a complete human experience. Hell realistically you could even have another actor play Data (although I would be very careful to find someone who can do the mannerisms correctly) and simply say that Data wanted to see how a changed physical appearance would affect how people interact with him. Star Trek has pretty advanced cosmetic surgery tech since in some episode they have been able to disguise themselves as Klingons so this should be well within the realm of plausibility.
 
2019-01-10 01:22:33 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: So this will be a Picard who lived his whole life in the Kelvin timeline? Hmm. I'm not sure how they're going to make this work, but obviously they think they can do it.


No, it takes place in the aftermath of Romulus being destroyed in the original timeline.  So Spock can be assumed to have died in the black hole, as well as Nero and his crew.

And to answer the question posed in the article as far as who was a better captain, Kirk or Picard, the answer is Sisko.
 
2019-01-10 01:39:17 PM  

salvador.hardin: PreMortem: I don't care if it tastes like pumpkin pie, I'm still not paying for another subscription. If it's good enough, put it on network tv. If not, it's just another good thing greed has killed.

To be on network TV it doesn't need to be good, it has to be broad and non-offensive. If you want big budget shows for smaller audiences, subscription services are a good way to finance them. I didn't particularly enjoy Discovery, especially how it wrapped up, but it was well worth the 8 bucks I spent to watch it over the course of 2 months.

If it isn't worth 4 dollars to you to watch a season of high budget star trek, then you aren't the target audience.

But if you are saying that you will ignore the subscription model on principle, you are begging for more NCIS and Autism-Crime-Solver shows.


I disagree, I simply feel that CBS doesn't have enough of a catalog that interests me to justify I subscription for 1 or 2 shows.

I have Netflix and Amazon prime video subscriptions and between their rotating catalog of available viewing and their new exclusive content they are definitely worth the fee. If Netflix started off with just its original programming, for example, I would have a hard time justifying it there as well.

It is more about the over all breadth of selection available. CBS just does not have it.  Maybe they will in the future but as it stands right now there just isn't enough to excite me.
 
2019-01-10 01:41:25 PM  

recoil47: thatguyoverthere70: So this will be a Picard who lived his whole life in the Kelvin timeline? Hmm. I'm not sure how they're going to make this work, but obviously they think they can do it.

No, that's not how I read it.  The only person from the "Prime" universe that went to the "Kelvin" timeline was Spock.  He did this AFTER a Supernova took out Romulus and he did it in an attempt to "right" things.

It sounds like this series just takes place in the "Prime" universe after the Romulan Supernova.  It's not clear if it's after Spock leaves to go back time or not, but it does take place in the main Star Trek universe, not the Kelvin one.


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2019-01-10 01:41:32 PM  

Anenu: From the headline I thought this was going to Picard in the Kelvin timeline which would have been upsetting as I have no desire to see such a thing. I'm fine with this however, with the conclusion of DS9, Voyager and the various movies the main timeline federation universe has changed a lot. The Romulans are gone, the Cardassians are in turmoil, the Klingons have been weakened by multiple wars including a civil war, the Borg are less of a threat, and while the Dominion exist they are unlikely to try to take over the Alpha Quadrant again. Part of my problem with STD was that it went back to the TOS era (I blame executives that don't grasp that most Star Trek fans are fans of the TNG era) instead of continuing the main timeline which is full of potential. The idea of updating the enemies to match real world threats is great and having a race of religious fanatics works fine, they could simple have been a race on the other side of the Cardassian/Romulan border that the Federation had never dealt with before or maybe with their continual defeats and losses a large segment of Klingon population embraces their old dead gods believing that their ancient warrior ways have been lost and thus abandoned Kahless and the Khitomer Accords. The point is that there is a lot of potential outside of the dried up well that is TOS and reconning everything and making the Klingons look different again was all lazy and dumb.


The 24th century crossover books had an antagonist race of zealots, I think the Kinshaya. Xenophobic and guided by "prophecy', they allied with the Tholians, Imperial Romulans, Breen, and Tzenkethi to create the Typhon Pact, a Warsaw Pact standin. Pretty good story.
 
2019-01-10 01:42:52 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: Bruce Campbell vs Army of Farkness: Do we get Data back in the form of B4's growth?  It was supposed to happen in a new movie, but Nemesis was so poorly received, the sequel was canceled, and we were stuck with a Dataless universe.

You aren't if Spiner has anything to say about it because he's old and fat (not so much anymore) and portraying an immortal perfect android is kinda difficult, which is why they went to the trouble of killing Data in the first place. If they want to spend the money they can do that CG head de-aging wizard shiat Disney has been playing with. That said, the Countdown comics mentioned in the thread and ST:O depict Data as having overtaken B4 at some point (which is a bit weird as Data always intended for B4 to be his own person/android and only uploaded his memories as a way to maybe kickstart his learning) and was the then-current captain of the Enterprise, with Picard having resigned and become an ambassador to Vulcan.


I dont recall ever encountering Data in STO. Little help?
 
2019-01-10 01:43:27 PM  

ltdanman44: [img.fark.net image 475x363]

eyes....in the dark......one moon....circles.....

/save us, troy
//one of my favorite episodes!


"The crew slowly goes insane due to prolonged sleep deprivation."  Also known as my marriage.
 
2019-01-10 01:47:41 PM  

AlanMooresBeard: BadReligion: Reveal he is gay and have Ian McKellen play his husband.

Can we have them traveling across the galaxy in a DeLorean with the 2 grumpy men from the muppet show in the back seat?


Back seat?
 
2019-01-10 01:52:54 PM  

Anenu: KingBiefWhistle: Bruce Campbell vs Army of Farkness: Do we get Data back in the form of B4's growth?  It was supposed to happen in a new movie, but Nemesis was so poorly received, the sequel was canceled, and we were stuck with a Dataless universe.

You aren't if Spiner has anything to say about it because he's old and fat (not so much anymore) and portraying an immortal perfect android is kinda difficult, which is why they went to the trouble of killing Data in the first place.

Eh, it isn't to much trouble to say that Data found a way to replicate ageing to better get a complete human experience. Hell realistically you could even have another actor play Data (although I would be very careful to find someone who can do the mannerisms correctly) and simply say that Data wanted to see how a changed physical appearance would affect how people interact with him. Star Trek has pretty advanced cosmetic surgery tech since in some episode they have been able to disguise themselves as Klingons so this should be well within the realm of plausibility.


Make Data a broad.

They put his Katra in Lal's body. Problem solved.
 
2019-01-10 02:10:49 PM  

Andy Andy: vudukungfu: No calling out farker in headline

Now there's a name I have not heard in a long time.


only fark(ette) I ever met in RL
 
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