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2018-11-09 10:27:30 AM  
"There are 40 people in this world and five of them are hamburgers."
-Captain Beefheart
 
2018-11-09 10:37:24 AM  
Trump political wisdom -- "half the world are women and the other half don't give a crap about them."
 
2018-11-09 11:36:47 AM  
The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.
 
2018-11-09 11:40:31 AM  
I just turned 40, and off the top of my head, the NFL players who are older than me are Tom Brady, Sebastian Janikowski, and Phil Dawson.
 
2018-11-09 11:42:24 AM  
Brady is OK but he is no Otto Graham
 
2018-11-09 11:42:40 AM  

The_Sponge: I just turned 40, and off the top of my head, the NFL players who are older than me are Tom Brady, Sebastian Janikowski, and Phil Dawson.


Adam Vinatieri is the oldest active player in the league.
 
2018-11-09 11:42:57 AM  
No mention of the greatest of all time, Tyler Palko?
 
2018-11-09 11:43:30 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: The_Sponge: I just turned 40, and off the top of my head, the NFL players who are older than me are Tom Brady, Sebastian Janikowski, and Phil Dawson.

Adam Vinatieri is the oldest active player in the league.



D'oh!  Thank you.
 
2018-11-09 11:50:52 AM  
Most of the other 232 have had their names appended to the back of a jersey on display in Cleveland.
 
2018-11-09 11:51:49 AM  

The_Sponge: I just turned 40, and off the top of my head, the NFL players who are older than me are Tom Brady, Sebastian Janikowski, and Phil Dawson.


Happy birthday, old man. Go Hawks.

/just turned 48 on November 5
 
2018-11-09 11:52:02 AM  

JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.


Add together the Browns, Bears, Bills and Jets and you must get close to half of those.
 
2018-11-09 11:54:13 AM  

Super Chronic: The_Sponge: I just turned 40, and off the top of my head, the NFL players who are older than me are Tom Brady, Sebastian Janikowski, and Phil Dawson.

Happy birthday, old man. Go Hawks.

/just turned 48 on November 5



Thanks....happy birthday to you as well.

/Wish you had been there in London.
//It was a blast.
 
2018-11-09 11:54:41 AM  
The Chargers have had fewer starting QBs in that time than the Pats.  Pretty damn impressive to only have 3 starting QBs in 18 seasons and still not win anything.

Also, the Bengals have had fewer starting QBs in that time than the Steelers.  That's kind of crazy.
 
2018-11-09 11:56:47 AM  

Super Chronic: Most of the other 232 have had their names appended to the back of a jersey on display in Cleveland.


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It cracks me up that Doug Pederson is on that jersey.
 
2018-11-09 11:59:25 AM  
If people are wondering if Kronke/Demoff sandbagged the Rams to be able to move to LA, lets look at this illustrious list:

Rams (20):Marc Bulger 95, Sam Bradford 49, Jared Goff 31, Kurt Warner 23, Case Keenum 14, Kellen Clemens 12, Nick Foles 11, Austin Davis 8, Shaun Hill 8, Jamie Martin 7, Kyle Boller 4, Keith Null 4, A.J. Feeley 3, Gus Frerotte 3, Ryan Fitzpatrick 3, Chris Chandler 2, Brock Berlin 1, Scott Covington 1, Trent Green 1, Sean Mannion 1

Warner/Bulger were the 2001-2006 QBs here and Keenum/Goff are the LA guys.  The rest started games the last 10 years the Rams were in STL, IIRC.
 
2018-11-09 12:01:06 PM  

bluenote13: The Chargers have had fewer starting QBs in that time than the Pats.  Pretty damn impressive to only have 3 starting QBs in 18 seasons and still not win anything.


Is that right? Rivers, Brees.... who else? I realize Rivers never misses a start, but I'd have thought early in the 2000s there would have been a bit of a QB carousel there. Brees didn't really emerge in his first few years.

Anyway, it's also impressive to have 2/3 of a team's QBs over an 18-year period be HOFers. Not as impressive as winning a Super Bowl or even making it to a Super Bowl, or seriously threatening to make it to a Super Bowl, but impressive nonetheless.
 
2018-11-09 12:02:32 PM  

Super Chronic: Is that right? Rivers, Brees.... who else?


Whoops, I hadn't scrolled down in TFA and didn't realize the answer was right there.
 
2018-11-09 12:03:54 PM  

Super Chronic: Super Chronic: Is that right? Rivers, Brees.... who else?

Whoops, I hadn't scrolled down in TFA and didn't realize the answer was right there.


Rivers has started 200 in a row.  I assume the 3rd one was back in Brees' days.
 
2018-11-09 12:16:00 PM  
I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.
 
2018-11-09 12:31:40 PM  

JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.


I was actually really surprised to see the Vikings with 19 compared to the Bears 21 - the popular narrative is all about Chicago  but I wouldn't have thought they'd be that close:

Bears (21):Jay Cutler 102, Kyle Orton 33, Rex Grossman 31, Jim Miller 21, Mitch Trubisky 20, Chris Chandler 13, Josh McCown 7, Kordell Stewart 7, Matt Barkley 6, Brian Griese 6, Brian Hoyer 5, Chad Hutchinson 5, Craig Kenzel 5, Mike Glennon 4, Caleb Hanie 4, Shane Matthews 3, Jonathan Quinn 3, Jimmy Clausen 2, Henry Burris 1, Jason Campbell 1, Todd Collins 1

Vikings (19):Daunte Culpepper 64, Christian Ponder 36, Brett Favre 29, Teddy Bridgewater 28, Brad Johnson 23, Tarvaris Jackson 20, Sam Bradford 17, Case Keenum 14, Gus Frerotte 13, Matt Cassel 9, Kirk Cousins 9, Donovan McNabb 6, Todd Bouman 3, Kelly Holcomb 3, Joe Webb 2, Spergon Wynn 2, Josh Freeman 1, Brooks Bollinger 1, Shaun Hill 1


... or that Cutler started almost twice the games Culpepper did (who I still associate with Vikings QB from growing up). Also weird that Trubisky is already about to overtake Jim Miller and that Orton had more than Grossman.
 
2018-11-09 12:39:44 PM  

foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.


I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.
 
2018-11-09 02:27:14 PM  

The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.


Are we still pretending PED's are only used by the lyin'est cheatin'est rustlers in all of pro sports?  Are we pretending you get some moral high ground in any of this?  Is it 2007 again?
 
2018-11-09 02:42:41 PM  
Congrats Tim Brody!
 
2018-11-09 02:47:19 PM  
Also:  "Josh McCown, Brian Hoyer and Gus Frerotte have each started for five different teams (...)"

Who the hell is Gus Frerotte?!??
 
2018-11-09 02:49:05 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

Are we still pretending PED's are only used by the lyin'est cheatin'est rustlers in all of pro sports?  Are we pretending you get some moral high ground in any of this?  Is it 2007 again?


Minnesota Twins fan, here.

Juicers should have their ENTIRE CAREERS vacated. Period.
 
2018-11-09 03:08:48 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

Are we still pretending PED's are only used by the lyin'est cheatin'est rustlers in all of pro sports?  Are we pretending you get some moral high ground in any of this?  Is it 2007 again? Did I forget my meds? Where are my keys? Who's on first?


ftfy
 
2018-11-09 03:09:49 PM  

The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.


If you can prove it, I'll gladly turn in my Brady fan card and jump on board the cheatin train with every other hater.  Until then, simply saying he's taking PED's just to say it is ridiculous.
 
2018-11-09 03:27:12 PM  

natural316: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

If you can prove it, I'll gladly turn in my Brady fan card and jump on board the cheatin train with every other hater.  Until then, simply saying he's taking PED's just to say it is ridiculous.


No Brady fan by any means, but I agree.  Loudly claiming "there's no other way" is not legitimate reasoning.
 
2018-11-09 03:41:47 PM  

006andahalf: natural316: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

If you can prove it, I'll gladly turn in my Brady fan card and jump on board the cheatin train with every other hater.  Until then, simply saying he's taking PED's just to say it is ridiculous.

No Brady fan by any means, but I agree.  Loudly claiming "there's no other way" is not legitimate reasoning.

Brady will deserve an * when he gets his gold jacket.
 
2018-11-09 03:44:02 PM  

006andahalf: natural316: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

If you can prove it, I'll gladly turn in my Brady fan card and jump on board the cheatin train with every other hater.  Until then, simply saying he's taking PED's just to say it is ridiculous.

No Brady fan by any means, but I agree.  Loudly claiming "there's no other way" is not legitimate reasoning.


Thirded. Also no Brady fan by any means.
 
2018-11-09 04:34:00 PM  

JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.


You're not wrong, though I eagerly await the years where the Packers and, sure why not, the Patriots have to suffer through QB roulette. Both fanbases have been blessed with spectacular QB play for so long that they will disintegrate the moment their franchises have to start the modern equivalents of Johnathan Quinn, Chad Hutchison, and Henry Burris at QB just to limp through a season. That their teams will draft a QB in the first round and they get their hopes up only to find he's the next Cade McNown (though Jameis Winston is doing a mighty fine job of living down to that assbag's reputation). And their teams trade away two first round picks to get the next Jay Cutler to not give a fark while being a turnover machine at the most important position on the team. Knowledge that the Packers, and yes, the Patriots will soon have to suffer through this is what sustained me through the Bears' long QB drought.

/and if you don't think it can happen to your team, look at what the 49ers went through after Montana-Young
 
2018-11-09 04:41:53 PM  

germ78: JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.

You're not wrong, though I eagerly await the years where the Packers and, sure why not, the Patriots have to suffer through QB roulette. Both fanbases have been blessed with spectacular QB play for so long that they will disintegrate the moment their franchises have to start the modern equivalents of Johnathan Quinn, Chad Hutchison, and Henry Burris at QB just to limp through a season. That their teams will draft a QB in the first round and they get their hopes up only to find he's the next Cade McNown (though Jameis Winston is doing a mighty fine job of living down to that assbag's reputation). And their teams trade away two first round picks to get the next Jay Cutler to not give a fark while being a turnover machine at the most important position on the team. Knowledge that the Packers, and yes, the Patriots will soon have to suffer through this is what sustained me through the Bears' long QB drought.

/and if you don't think it can happen to your team, look at what the 49ers went through after Montana-Young


Part of me think Bill will bail when Tom decides to retire and part of me says he will stay around for a year, spend big and try to win one without Brady as a 'fark you' to all the people who say he can't win without Brady (which he hasn't done).
 
2018-11-09 04:43:56 PM  

germ78: JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.

You're not wrong, though I eagerly await the years where the Packers and, sure why not, the Patriots have to suffer through QB roulette. Both fanbases have been blessed with spectacular QB play for so long that they will disintegrate the moment their franchises have to start the modern equivalents of Johnathan Quinn, Chad Hutchison, and Henry Burris at QB just to limp through a season. That their teams will draft a QB in the first round and they get their hopes up only to find he's the next Cade McNown (though Jameis Winston is doing a mighty fine job of living down to that assbag's reputation). And their teams trade away two first round picks to get the next Jay Cutler to not give a fark while being a turnover machine at the most important position on the team. Knowledge that the Packers, and yes, the Patriots will soon have to suffer through this is what sustained me through the Bears' long QB drought.

/and if you don't think it can happen to your team, look at what the 49ers went through after Montana-Young


I'm a self loathing Beard fan.

I too look forward to what you state.
 
2018-11-09 04:48:58 PM  

brizzle365: 006andahalf: natural316: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

If you can prove it, I'll gladly turn in my Brady fan card and jump on board the cheatin train with every other hater.  Until then, simply saying he's taking PED's just to say it is ridiculous.

No Brady fan by any means, but I agree.  Loudly claiming "there's no other way" is not legitimate reasoning.
Brady will deserve an * when he gets his gold jacket.


Just one?

* Taping other teams' signals
* Deflated footballs
* Linebacker PED'd himself into a career-ending stroke
* And Aaron Hernandez

I get a feeling a retrospective of "the Patriot Way" will be like watching The Departed, annoying accents and all.
 
2018-11-09 04:58:53 PM  
The fact that Mariota already has the 2nd most starts for the Titans since 2001 shouldn't be surprising, but it is.
 
2018-11-09 05:02:19 PM  

bluenote13: Part of me think Bill will bail when Tom decides to retire and part of me says he will stay around for a year, spend big and try to win one without Brady as a 'fark you' to all the people who say he can't win without Brady (which he hasn't done).


No doubt, coaches are notoriously egotistic, even Bill Walsh wanted to win one without Joe so badly.
 
2018-11-09 05:27:40 PM  

EyeballKid: brizzle365: 006andahalf: natural316: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

If you can prove it, I'll gladly turn in my Brady fan card and jump on board the cheatin train with every other hater.  Until then, simply saying he's taking PED's just to say it is ridiculous.

No Brady fan by any means, but I agree.  Loudly claiming "there's no other way" is not legitimate reasoning.
Brady will deserve an * when he gets his gold jacket.

Just one?

* Taping other teams' signals
* Deflated footballs
* Linebacker PED'd himself into a career-ending stroke
* And Aaron Hernandez

I get a feeling a retrospective of "the Patriot Way" will be like watching The Departed, annoying accents and all.


Are people still not considering the frequent failures of comms equipment at Gillette stadium to be coincidental?
 
2018-11-09 05:45:40 PM  

JolobinSmokin: germ78: JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.

You're not wrong, though I eagerly await the years where the Packers and, sure why not, the Patriots have to suffer through QB roulette. Both fanbases have been blessed with spectacular QB play for so long that they will disintegrate the moment their franchises have to start the modern equivalents of Johnathan Quinn, Chad Hutchison, and Henry Burris at QB just to limp through a season. That their teams will draft a QB in the first round and they get their hopes up only to find he's the next Cade McNown (though Jameis Winston is doing a mighty fine job of living down to that assbag's reputation). And their teams trade away two first round picks to get the next Jay Cutler to not give a fark while being a turnover machine at the most important position on the team. Knowledge that the Packers, and yes, the Patriots will soon have to suffer through this is what sustained me through the Bears' long QB drought.

/and if you don't think it can happen to your team, look at what the 49ers went through after Montana-Young

I'm a self loathing Beard fan.

I too look forward to what you state.


Glad to hear. The Bears' QBs have been an easy punchline for so long that it's hard to tell if you're some schmuck Packers fan trying to get one last jab in before being cast into perdition. And I've been gaslit by so many bad years of Bears QBs that I'm still not sure if Mitch is the real deal despite his arrow pointing upwards.
 
2018-11-09 06:08:34 PM  
It's a major advantage to Brady to have the same head coach/general manager all these years, and relatively few changes at OC. Some of the QBs listed in the article lost their jobs because the new coach or GM wanted to bring in his own guy, or the offensive coordinator wanted to run an offense that wasn't suited to their skill set.
 
2018-11-09 06:23:16 PM  

Super Chronic: bluenote13: The Chargers have had fewer starting QBs in that time than the Pats.  Pretty damn impressive to only have 3 starting QBs in 18 seasons and still not win anything.

Is that right? Rivers, Brees.... who else? I realize Rivers never misses a start, but I'd have thought early in the 2000s there would have been a bit of a QB carousel there. Brees didn't really emerge in his first few years.

Anyway, it's also impressive to have 2/3 of a team's QBs over an 18-year period be HOFers. Not as impressive as winning a Super Bowl or even making it to a Super Bowl, or seriously threatening to make it to a Super Bowl, but impressive nonetheless.


Come on, how can people forget Doug Flutie?
 
2018-11-09 06:24:31 PM  

The_Sponge: Super Chronic: Most of the other 232 have had their names appended to the back of a jersey on display in Cleveland.

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It cracks me up that Doug Pederson is on that jersey.


It cracks me up that more than one in every nine starting QBs since 2001 have started for the Browns.
 
2018-11-09 06:58:56 PM  

Jedekai: Nana's Vibrator: The Flexecutioner: foo monkey: I've never been on the Brady GOAT wagon, but that he's 41 and not slowing down is impressive AF.

I was impressed with Barry Bonds late career too.

Are we still pretending PED's are only used by the lyin'est cheatin'est rustlers in all of pro sports?  Are we pretending you get some moral high ground in any of this?  Is it 2007 again?

Minnesota Twins fan, here.

Juicers should have their ENTIRE CAREERS vacated. Period.


I'm not sure you understand what you're saying.  It's been in sports for almost 50 years.  Ken Griffey Junior was doing them.  Peyton Manning was doing them.  Steroids are in the hall of fame.  They're all over colleges.  They're in the high schools.  If this upsets you, you might need to watch Little League baseball and Pop Warner football.

If Tom Brady and Mookie Betts are doing them, I'd be neither surprised nor disappointed.  My only disappointment is all the damn prime time games I have a hard time keeping my eyes opened for.
 
2018-11-09 07:05:41 PM  

Gubbo: JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.

Add together the Browns, Bears, Bills and Jets and you must get close to half of those.


Why include the Bills and Jets? Neither are particularly bad with 17 (16, if you exclude Cassel's trick play to open a game) and 14 respectively.

Top five are Browns (27), Bears (21), Rams (20), and a tie between Vikes and Raiders (19).

Of course there is probably a good degree of overlap.
 
2018-11-09 07:12:13 PM  

dywed88: Gubbo: JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.

Add together the Browns, Bears, Bills and Jets and you must get close to half of those.

Why include the Bills and Jets? Neither are particularly bad with 17 (16, if you exclude Cassel's trick play to open a game) and 14 respectively.

Top five are Browns (27), Bears (21), Rams (20), and a tie between Vikes and Raiders (19).

Of course there is probably a good degree of overlap.


Oh I would have thought they would have more than that.
 
2018-11-09 07:20:32 PM  

Gubbo: dywed88: Gubbo: JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.

Add together the Browns, Bears, Bills and Jets and you must get close to half of those.

Why include the Bills and Jets? Neither are particularly bad with 17 (16, if you exclude Cassel's trick play to open a game) and 14 respectively.

Top five are Browns (27), Bears (21), Rams (20), and a tie between Vikes and Raiders (19).

Of course there is probably a good degree of overlap.

Oh I would have thought they would have more than that.


The Bills have stuck with their starters for a while even when they weren't good. Five QBs have at least two seasons worth of starts but Fitzy is top at just 53. So there was a good amount of flux, but not the churn of other teams.

The Jets have very few QBs with a tiny number of starts and two QBs with sixty some.
 
2018-11-09 07:33:39 PM  

dywed88: Gubbo: dywed88: Gubbo: JolobinSmokin: The other 232 were the QB for the Chicago Bears.

Add together the Browns, Bears, Bills and Jets and you must get close to half of those.

Why include the Bills and Jets? Neither are particularly bad with 17 (16, if you exclude Cassel's trick play to open a game) and 14 respectively.

Top five are Browns (27), Bears (21), Rams (20), and a tie between Vikes and Raiders (19).

Of course there is probably a good degree of overlap.

Oh I would have thought they would have more than that.

The Bills have stuck with their starters for a while even when they weren't good. Five QBs have at least two seasons worth of starts but Fitzy is top at just 53. So there was a good amount of flux, but not the churn of other teams.

The Jets have very few QBs with a tiny number of starts and two QBs with sixty some.


I figured that I can't remember either of them having a good qb and figured there must have been churn.

God they stuck with some rubbish players
 
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