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5 days ago  
Yeah, if you saw that game last night... they do not need him. That was a clinic.
 
5 days ago  
Well he can just keep spending his days counting in a car hole by the motorway.
 
5 days ago  
I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.
 
5 days ago  
Steelers in postseason form?  Does that mean they're going to lose to the Pats, or the game before the Pats?
 
5 days ago  
At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.


I thought I saw like 8.6M so far just for this season but yeah, probably a lot more in the long run. If he thinks he's gonna come back and get a long term deal for QB type money, he may be in for disappointment.

Who knows though, there may be a team or two out there still willing to back up the truck for him. Maybe the Cardinals or the Jets or something
 
5 days ago  

wage0048: At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.


======================================​=

No, they'll be a few teams that will pursue him...  Sure, RBs aren't used as often and as we've seen with Bell and Conner, they can help tremendously, but QBs are the ones that can demand the absurd money.  Is there a team that'll be willing to pay him?  I think some team will.

If he does report, it'll be interesting to see how he'll be integrated into the offense.  Tomlin is NOT a guy who splits reps between RBs.  But... both in the running game and receiving game, it might be interesting to have both guys in there on occasion.  It would give a defense nightmares.  Two great catching and running RBs plus Brown and Shuster?  That's a lot of weapons.

But they better leave Conner as the main guy.  He's earned it.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.


But Le'Veon likes his money.
 
5 days ago  
I can see Bell signing a 1 year deal with either GB or Seatle, and then goes for big money once he prooves he didn't lose a step.

but in reality, we all know he is going to sign with the stupid patriots.
 
5 days ago  
Did Cam give another "I just lost so now I'm gonna act like a crybaby" post game press conference?
 
5 days ago  
The Steelers dont deserve that much credit, though. If they expected Connor to play like this they'd have just cut Bell instead of assuming he'd sign the tag after training camp.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.


What stunt ? He is betting on himself and that he deserves a long term contract for his services.

I am happy the Steelers found a replacement and I hope it means Bell can go and get paid elsewhere.

There is no good or bad in this scenario it's literally Billionaires and Millionares fighting over $$$$.
 
5 days ago  
Doesn't ring a Bell.
 
5 days ago  

snoopy2zero: AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.

What stunt ? He is betting on himself and that he deserves a long term contract for his services.

I am happy the Steelers found a replacement and I hope it means Bell can go and get paid elsewhere.

There is no good or bad in this scenario it's literally Billionaires and Millionares fighting over $$$$.


I found it chuckle-worthy that Tomlin is "concerned about the workload" of connor, but couldn't give a rats hairy ass on fire about abusing Bell and tagging him 3 years running.
 
5 days ago  
I turned on my car radio just as the Panthers scored their first touchdown. Commercial break, another touchdown. Commercial break, anther touchdown. What is going on?
 
5 days ago  
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5 days ago  
The Smith-Schuster score was the franchise's longest-ever first play from scrimmage.

Huh. I would've guessed they'd had longer than 75 yd plays in their history. That surprised me.
 
5 days ago  

brizzle365: snoopy2zero: AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.

What stunt ? He is betting on himself and that he deserves a long term contract for his services.

I am happy the Steelers found a replacement and I hope it means Bell can go and get paid elsewhere.

There is no good or bad in this scenario it's literally Billionaires and Millionares fighting over $$$$.

I found it chuckle-worthy that Tomlin is "concerned about the workload" of connor, but couldn't give a rats hairy ass on fire about abusing Bell and tagging him 3 years running.


Two times.
 
5 days ago  

holdmybones: The Smith-Schuster score was the franchise's longest-ever first play from scrimmage.

Huh. I would've guessed they'd had longer than 75 yd plays in their history. That surprised me.


It's for that specific play.
They get crazy with those stats.
 
5 days ago  

holdmybones: The Smith-Schuster score was the franchise's longest-ever first play from scrimmage.

Huh. I would've guessed they'd had longer than 75 yd plays in their history. That surprised me.


"First play."  Longest overall is 97 from last year I think
 
5 days ago  

jake3988: wage0048: At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.

======================================​=

No, they'll be a few teams that will pursue him...  Sure, RBs aren't used as often and as we've seen with Bell and Conner, they can help tremendously, but QBs are the ones that can demand the absurd money.  Is there a team that'll be willing to pay him?  I think some team will.

If he does report, it'll be interesting to see how he'll be integrated into the offense.  Tomlin is NOT a guy who splits reps between RBs.  But... both in the running game and receiving game, it might be interesting to have both guys in there on occasion.  It would give a defense nightmares.  Two great catching and running RBs plus Brown and Shuster?  That's a lot of weapons.

But they better leave Conner as the main guy.  He's earned it.


He took the Steelers and Pittsburgh out of his Twitter bio yesterday.
 
5 days ago  

The Slush: holdmybones: The Smith-Schuster score was the franchise's longest-ever first play from scrimmage.

Huh. I would've guessed they'd had longer than 75 yd plays in their history. That surprised me.

"First play."  Longest overall is 97 from last year I think


Ahhh. There we go. I somehow missed the word "first".

Filterpwned or not filterpwned?
 
5 days ago  

lindalouwho: brizzle365: snoopy2zero: AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.

What stunt ? He is betting on himself and that he deserves a long term contract for his services.

I am happy the Steelers found a replacement and I hope it means Bell can go and get paid elsewhere.

There is no good or bad in this scenario it's literally Billionaires and Millionares fighting over $$$$.

I found it chuckle-worthy that Tomlin is "concerned about the workload" of connor, but couldn't give a rats hairy ass on fire about abusing Bell and tagging him 3 years running.

Two times.


he didnt sign the tender for the 3rd time, while technically you are correct, they did try for a third time. So if he shows up, its a 3rd...if he sits then yea, its just a 2nd.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.


Last night the tally was up to just shy of $9 million.  He loses roughly $1.5 million each game
 
5 days ago  
some gambles really pay off, some dont. and it could still implode for the Steelers if he's released and Conner hits the IR any time before the post season. injuries happen at anytime.

leveon didn't foresee Conner being that good and it still remains to be seen if he really is or if their O line is just that good. either way he lost his spot and now his team. chalk it up to a failed gamble and move on spending a year or two repairing your name/value.
 
5 days ago  

brizzle365: lindalouwho: brizzle365: snoopy2zero: AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.

What stunt ? He is betting on himself and that he deserves a long term contract for his services.

I am happy the Steelers found a replacement and I hope it means Bell can go and get paid elsewhere.

There is no good or bad in this scenario it's literally Billionaires and Millionares fighting over $$$$.

I found it chuckle-worthy that Tomlin is "concerned about the workload" of connor, but couldn't give a rats hairy ass on fire about abusing Bell and tagging him 3 years running.

Two times.

he didnt sign the tender for the 3rd time, while technically you are correct, they did try for a third time. So if he shows up, its a 3rd...if he sits then yea, its just a 2nd.


His rookie deal expired in 2017 when they tagged him the first time. This year was the second tag.
 
5 days ago  
Leveon will get paid, but trust me it will be by the worst team in the league with the worst o line. Good. Greedy mother farker.
 
5 days ago  

lindalouwho: jake3988: wage0048: At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.

======================================​=

No, they'll be a few teams that will pursue him...  Sure, RBs aren't used as often and as we've seen with Bell and Conner, they can help tremendously, but QBs are the ones that can demand the absurd money.  Is there a team that'll be willing to pay him?  I think some team will.

If he does report, it'll be interesting to see how he'll be integrated into the offense.  Tomlin is NOT a guy who splits reps between RBs.  But... both in the running game and receiving game, it might be interesting to have both guys in there on occasion.  It would give a defense nightmares.  Two great catching and running RBs plus Brown and Shuster?  That's a lot of weapons.

But they better leave Conner as the main guy.  He's earned it.

He took the Steelers and Pittsburgh out of his Twitter bio yesterday.


I would find it pretty funny if he held out the rest of the year and then never made as much money for the rest of his career as he would have if he had simply played this season under the franchise tag.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: brizzle365: lindalouwho: brizzle365: snoopy2zero: AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.

What stunt ? He is betting on himself and that he deserves a long term contract for his services.

I am happy the Steelers found a replacement and I hope it means Bell can go and get paid elsewhere.

There is no good or bad in this scenario it's literally Billionaires and Millionares fighting over $$$$.

I found it chuckle-worthy that Tomlin is "concerned about the workload" of connor, but couldn't give a rats hairy ass on fire about abusing Bell and tagging him 3 years running.

Two times.

he didnt sign the tender for the 3rd time, while technically you are correct, they did try for a third time. So if he shows up, its a 3rd...if he sits then yea, its just a 2nd.

His rookie deal expired in 2017 when they tagged him the first time. This year was the second tag.


ahh my mistake, thanks for the correction.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: lindalouwho: jake3988: wage0048: At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.

======================================​=

No, they'll be a few teams that will pursue him...  Sure, RBs aren't used as often and as we've seen with Bell and Conner, they can help tremendously, but QBs are the ones that can demand the absurd money.  Is there a team that'll be willing to pay him?  I think some team will.

If he does report, it'll be interesting to see how he'll be integrated into the offense.  Tomlin is NOT a guy who splits reps between RBs.  But... both in the running game and receiving game, it might be interesting to have both guys in there on occasion.  It would give a defense nightmares.  Two great catching and running RBs plus Brown and Shuster?  That's a lot of weapons.

But they better leave Conner as the main guy.  He's earned it.

He took the Steelers and Pittsburgh out of his Twitter bio yesterday.

I would find it pretty funny if he held out the rest of the year and then never made as much money for the rest of his career as he would have if he had simply played this season under the franchise tag.


We all would.

/ thanks for the assist
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: lindalouwho: jake3988: wage0048: At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.

======================================​=

No, they'll be a few teams that will pursue him...  Sure, RBs aren't used as often and as we've seen with Bell and Conner, they can help tremendously, but QBs are the ones that can demand the absurd money.  Is there a team that'll be willing to pay him?  I think some team will.

If he does report, it'll be interesting to see how he'll be integrated into the offense.  Tomlin is NOT a guy who splits reps between RBs.  But... both in the running game and receiving game, it might be interesting to have both guys in there on occasion.  It would give a defense nightmares.  Two great catching and running RBs plus Brown and Shuster?  That's a lot of weapons.

But they better leave Conner as the main guy.  He's earned it.

He took the Steelers and Pittsburgh out of his Twitter bio yesterday.

I would find it pretty funny if he held out the rest of the year and then never made as much money for the rest of his career as he would have if he had simply played this season under the franchise tag.


Pittsburgh has always had a penchant for making the running back, not vice versa. Other teams surely know this. Nobody high profile or in a good position will touch him now. Enjoy Cleveland, Leveon. Then enjoy crippling pain with all your money.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: I would find it pretty funny if he held out the rest of the year and then never made as much money for the rest of his career as he would have if he had simply played this season under the franchise tag.


I'd find it even funnier if all that happened and the Steelers lost Conner for the year next week and they went on an immediate slide taking them out of the playoffs and Tomlin gets fired and Ben retires immediately in protest over his firing. That'd be a real hoot.
 
5 days ago  

The Flexecutioner: AdmirableSnackbar: I would find it pretty funny if he held out the rest of the year and then never made as much money for the rest of his career as he would have if he had simply played this season under the franchise tag.

I'd find it even funnier if all that happened and the Steelers lost Conner for the year next week and they went on an immediate slide taking them out of the playoffs and Tomlin gets fired and Ben retires immediately in protest over his firing. That'd be a real hoot.


0_o
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: lindalouwho: jake3988: wage0048: At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.

======================================​=

No, they'll be a few teams that will pursue him...  Sure, RBs aren't used as often and as we've seen with Bell and Conner, they can help tremendously, but QBs are the ones that can demand the absurd money.  Is there a team that'll be willing to pay him?  I think some team will.

If he does report, it'll be interesting to see how he'll be integrated into the offense.  Tomlin is NOT a guy who splits reps between RBs.  But... both in the running game and receiving game, it might be interesting to have both guys in there on occasion.  It would give a defense nightmares.  Two great catching and running RBs plus Brown and Shuster?  That's a lot of weapons.

But they better leave Conner as the main guy.  He's earned it.

He took the Steelers and Pittsburgh out of his Twitter bio yesterday.

I would find it pretty funny if he held out the rest of the year and then never made as much money for the rest of his career as he would have if he had simply played this season under the franchise tag.


What if he blew out his knee week 1? This is impossible to calculate
 
5 days ago  

ElwoodCuse: AdmirableSnackbar: lindalouwho: jake3988: wage0048: At this rate, Kaepernick is going to find a job before anyone's willing to sign Bell.

======================================​=

No, they'll be a few teams that will pursue him...  Sure, RBs aren't used as often and as we've seen with Bell and Conner, they can help tremendously, but QBs are the ones that can demand the absurd money.  Is there a team that'll be willing to pay him?  I think some team will.

If he does report, it'll be interesting to see how he'll be integrated into the offense.  Tomlin is NOT a guy who splits reps between RBs.  But... both in the running game and receiving game, it might be interesting to have both guys in there on occasion.  It would give a defense nightmares.  Two great catching and running RBs plus Brown and Shuster?  That's a lot of weapons.

But they better leave Conner as the main guy.  He's earned it.

He took the Steelers and Pittsburgh out of his Twitter bio yesterday.

I would find it pretty funny if he held out the rest of the year and then never made as much money for the rest of his career as he would have if he had simply played this season under the franchise tag.

What if he blew out his knee week 1? This is impossible to calculate


He usually waits until later in the year to get hurt.
 
5 days ago  
I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.
 
5 days ago  

grokca: AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.

But Le'Veon likes his money.


OK... that was funny.

/in a garage by the moterway
//he was born a pauper to a pawn on christmas day
///then the war begun
////ok that was a really weird song
 
5 days ago  

snoopy2zero: I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.


There is still guaranteed money in those non-guaranteed contracts. So its not like they can shiat-can you for absolutely nothing whenever they want, unlike the rest of us. That's usually the sticking point in contract negotiations; the better the player, the bigger the pile of guaranteed money.
 
5 days ago  

snoopy2zero: I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.


A lot of it is not hate, we just got sick of waiting for him.
 
5 days ago  

lindalouwho: snoopy2zero: I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.

A lot of it is not hate, we just got sick of waiting for him.


Yeah, he said a few times that he would show and he didn't. Then there are the facts that his contract demands and his whining about the franchise tag are unreasonable. I don't hate him I'm just tired of his antics this season.

And playing pick-up basketball is exactly what someone without a current contract - and who is asking for a ridiculous contract from any team next year - should be doing with their time.
 
5 days ago  

snoopy2zero: I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.


its mostly jealousy and that people hate when someone else attempts to make decisions for themselves.

Really woulda thought fark would be behind this whole, "strong, independent, black woman thing"...but, here we are ;-)

There are legit reasons some people don't like him, and some of it revolves around the way he handles himself off of the field and especially the way he is handling his contract.

Some are just born to hate...i mean dance, yea, born to dance baby!

Tho, personally, I think its just jealousy or they went all in on their fantasy and drafted him 1st round
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.


Oh, they covered it last night. $855,000 a game. 10 games. So his little "pay me more money" hissy fit has cost him $8.5 million.
Oh, and Conner has better stats.

Fark Bell.
 
4 days ago  

Mikey1969: AdmirableSnackbar: I wonder how much money he's cost himself with this stunt. And not just the money he left on the table this year, I mean that other teams aren't going to back up the Brinks truck for him if he's really that replaceable as well as flaky.

If he reports, great, he can help in the stretch and for the playoffs. If he doesn't, well...bye.

Oh, they covered it last night. $855,000 a game. 10 games. So his little "pay me more money" hissy fit has cost him $8.5 million.
Oh, and Conner has better stats.

Fark Bell.


Oh, and I forgot any possible bonuses. They get bonuses like $10,000 for every first down and $25,000 for every touchdown. I can't remember what it is, but you get the idea. I bet he's missed out on another $2.5 million, easy...
 
4 days ago  
Like I said last night, I think the absolute craziest stat of all is that Ben played three full quarters and had more TDs than incomplete passes. That's just crazy...
 
4 days ago  

brizzle365: snoopy2zero: I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.

its mostly jealousy and that people hate when someone else attempts to make decisions for themselves.

Really woulda thought fark would be behind this whole, "strong, independent, black woman thing"...but, here we are ;-)

There are legit reasons some people don't like him, and some of it revolves around the way he handles himself off of the field and especially the way he is handling his contract.

Some are just born to hate...i mean dance, yea, born to dance baby!

Tho, personally, I think its just jealousy or they went all in on their fantasy and drafted him 1st round


Bell isn't a black woman..
 
4 days ago  

snoopy2zero: I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.


He's losing $855,000 a game. Sounds pretty "guaranteed" to me.
 
4 days ago  
Franchise contracts do not have bonuses, they are calculated based on the salaries of the position and how many times a player has been tagged
 
4 days ago  
I hate athletes who have signed a contract then hold out for more money.  Regardless of the sport, regardless of how much the owners are exploiting them, once they have signed a contract they report and entertain the fans.  I'm still bitter about Doug Gilmour walking out on the Flames halfway through a season 25 years ago to force a trade to the f*cking Maple Leafs.

In this situation, Bell isn't under contract.  He is under no legal or moral obligation to sign a one-year contract and risk his future playing for a team who wasn't willing to offer him a long-term deal with sufficient guaranteed money.  Even if it costs him more money in theory than the holdout gains him, it is his right to look after himself any way he sees fit.

Having said that, I think he should report on the last possible day.  Take a few weeks to get back into football shape.  If he has a few big games down the stretch and in the playoffs, that would help him get a better big new contract in the offseason than if he holds out the whole year.  But having said that, star NFL players who miss a whole year with injury often sign big contracts the following year, so it might not hurt him that much.
 
4 days ago  

Mikey1969: brizzle365: snoopy2zero: I really dont get the hate for him. The guys plays in the one of roughest pro sports with no guaranteed contracts and decided to bet on himself when he realized the Steelers had no long term plans for him other than to get every yard they could out of him one year at a time.

its mostly jealousy and that people hate when someone else attempts to make decisions for themselves.

Really woulda thought fark would be behind this whole, "strong, independent, black woman thing"...but, here we are ;-)

There are legit reasons some people don't like him, and some of it revolves around the way he handles himself off of the field and especially the way he is handling his contract.

Some are just born to hate...i mean dance, yea, born to dance baby!

Tho, personally, I think its just jealousy or they went all in on their fantasy and drafted him 1st round

Bell isn't a black woman..


Have you personally checked?
 
4 days ago  

ElwoodCuse: The Steelers dont deserve that much credit, though. If they expected Connor to play like this they'd have just cut Bell instead of assuming he'd sign the tag after training camp.


There was literally no scenario where they cut Bell. What a stupid and uninformed thing to suggest.
 
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