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(Splinter News)   Store brands are better but you are too stupid and fancy to acknowledge it   ( splinternews.com) divider line
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5 days ago  
Reaction to most grocery store house brands: Meh.

Reaction when Trader Joe's does it: HOLY FARKFARTS ARTISAN TUSCAN CHIPOTLE SAMOSAS
 
5 days ago  
I buy store brand for pretty much everything, except toilet paper. You'll have to pry my Charmin Plus with Aloe out of my cold, destitute hands.
 
5 days ago  
Winco brand sucks ass, and not in a good way.
 
5 days ago  
It depends on which store brands, and which items. The store brand ketchup I buy is better than Heinz because they left out a lot of the HFCS, so you can actually taste tomatoes.
 
5 days ago  

scottydoesntknow: I buy store brand for pretty much everything, except toilet paper. You'll have to pry my Charmin Plus with Aloe out of my cold, destitute hands.


Kirkland brand TP is pretty solid, in my experience.
 
5 days ago  

bingethinker: It depends on which store brands, and which items. The store brand ketchup I buy is better than Heinz because they left out a lot of the HFCS, so you can actually taste tomatoes.


This. My local store is an Asda (currently Walmart owned, soon to be Sainsburys) and their cheap rice crispies are great, but their cornflakes aren't. Their tomato ketchup is great. But I wouldn't touch their coffee with a ten foot stick.

/Recently visited some Walmarts in Vancouver and holy crap did they suck. Terrible range, cheap stuff, just dire. Thank god I found a Loblaws. Asda's in the UK seem to have a far far better range and better quality stuff than Walmart in America and Canada. They're not as good as Sainsburys but they're not far off.
 
5 days ago  

Carter Pewterschmidt: bingethinker: It depends on which store brands, and which items. The store brand ketchup I buy is better than Heinz because they left out a lot of the HFCS, so you can actually taste tomatoes.

This. My local store is an Asda (currently Walmart owned, soon to be Sainsburys) and their cheap rice crispies are great, but their cornflakes aren't. Their tomato ketchup is great. But I wouldn't touch their coffee with a ten foot stick.

/Recently visited some Walmarts in Vancouver and holy crap did they suck. Terrible range, cheap stuff, just dire. Thank god I found a Loblaws. Asda's in the UK seem to have a far far better range and better quality stuff than Walmart in America and Canada. They're not as good as Sainsburys but they're not far off.


You should check out Bob Loblaw's law blog on Loblaws
 
5 days ago  
my Kirkland TF seems to be holding up quite nicely - much better than that Equate TF.
 
5 days ago  
Love Publix for many things but, Aldi just opened.  Love their stuff too!  I've been disappointed in only a couple of things, so I'm always willing to try house brands.

OTOH, I loathe Ingles, food lion, and food Depot.  All suck loudly.
 
5 days ago  
If you're into the "salty & sweet" granola bar thing, the Walmart brand bars are exponentially tastier than any of the name brands.
 
5 days ago  
Depends on the taste of the product for foods. Most Wegmans cereals are as good or are a little bit blander compared to the name brands. Medicine is always identical to the name brand (only difference I have seen is Mucinex 12 hour having the "Instant release" layer and then the remaining time release on the other side, while 12 hour generic Guaifenesin only is time release) thanks to FDA requirements. Store brand clothing though is almost never as good as the name brands, though there are exceptions (BJ's formerly Lanesboro, now just "Berkley Jensen" brand makes some good clothes for work (their cotton slacks are comfy, only problem is that they fade quickly in the wash compared to Dockers) and synagogue)
 
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5 days ago  
I pretty much buy store brand everything, unless the name brand is cheaper with a sale or coupon or such. I actually prefer some store brand items to the name one...like Aldi's 'Ritz' crackers seem to have the right amount of salt while actual Ritz are like a saltlick. (The generic Ritz from ShopRite taste like cardboard though).
 
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5 days ago  
Depends on the product.

Good articles are better, so we'd like to see you write one.
 
5 days ago  
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5 days ago  

scottydoesntknow: I buy store brand for pretty much everything, except toilet paper. You'll have to pry my Charmin Plus with Aloe out of my cold, destitute hands.


I rarely buy store brand stuff, except maybe butter and meat. There are a million ways a product can be messed up that's not obvious, and if you happen to be lucky and find something good, tomorrow they can change the supplier and you're out of luck. I've bought aluminum foil, because how can that go wrong, and it wasn't wrapped on the roll properly. I've bought garbage bags, and they were too thin and ripped. I've bought store brand eggs and the less said about that, the better. The store brand cereal I've had sucked. The store brand cleaner had a defective squirt bottle. And so on.

I get that making something store brand doesn't cause it to be worse, but if it was good enough to build a reputation for repeat business, then they would sell it under a brand.

The exceptions are where the store brand is effectively a brand. Some specific products are reliable at particular stores. There's one grocery chain where I go where they actually have two store brands - one is named after the store, and one is named after the former name of the store, which seems to be intended to make it more upscale.
 
5 days ago  

Carter Pewterschmidt: bingethinker: It depends on which store brands, and which items. The store brand ketchup I buy is better than Heinz because they left out a lot of the HFCS, so you can actually taste tomatoes.

This. My local store is an Asda (currently Walmart owned, soon to be Sainsburys) and their cheap rice crispies are great, but their cornflakes aren't. Their tomato ketchup is great. But I wouldn't touch their coffee with a ten foot stick.

/Recently visited some Walmarts in Vancouver and holy crap did they suck. Terrible range, cheap stuff, just dire. Thank god I found a Loblaws. Asda's in the UK seem to have a far far better range and better quality stuff than Walmart in America and Canada. They're not as good as Sainsburys but they're not far off.


Loblaws' store brand is "President's Choice"  and it's almost universally good stuff.   some of our favs are sparkling water, Rosemary crackers, mint jelly, and peanut butter.
 
5 days ago  
Some brands, and some products. Takes awhile (years) to learn what's the better option based on quality, value and personal taste. Some things, like medicine, are really easy because its the same active ingredient. Walmart is huge, but very few good deals in the grocery department (well, everywhere really. Such low quality) and it's things like canned beans, and other non perishables. Generic medicine can be ok, but not stuff like throat spray because they cheap out out the thickness so it doesn't stay on the affected area as long. Mostly the place is cheap but not a value, but Dollar General is the farking worst. I walked through the whole place after a new one opened but things are only cheap because the small size, but terrible in a $/weight (or volume, size, count, ect. Whichever fits a certain product) way which is how you should measure everything. I walked out with some plastic wrap and a tub of Halloween frosting in January.
I was a good shopper for myself, and now for my family. The extra thought and effort have really paid off.
 
5 days ago  

Bannanaslug: Some things, like medicine, are really easy because its the same active ingredient


People have had nightmarish experiences (reported problems and told they were imagining things) because they took a generic medicine, and it didn't work, and it turned out the FDA didn't specifically test all of the dosage formulations to approve them. Quality control, whether something dissolves properly or it has the right amount of the active ingredient - many things can go wrong even if the active ingredient is the same.
 
5 days ago  

scottydoesntknow: I buy store brand for pretty much everything, except toilet paper. You'll have to pry my Charmin Plus with Aloe out of my cold, destitute hands.


I get that by the 45 pack at Costco when it is on sale for cheap.
 
5 days ago  

theropod: Reaction to most grocery store house brands: Meh.

Reaction when Trader Joe's does it: HOLY FARKFARTS ARTISAN TUSCAN CHIPOTLE SAMOSAS


A lot of the stuff (but not all) at Trader Joe's is very clearly specific high end repackaged private label products. After the Great Recession, many of the store brands seem to have went down in quality, especially baked and boxed products like chocolate sandwich cookies are clearly not Oreo's. National brands go on sale all the time, so that's when to buy them, or go to Costco, and get Oreo's for cheap.
 
5 days ago  
Private Selection from Smith's grocery is usually good.  I'm not sure if their parent Kroger uses the same name for things though.
 
5 days ago  

itcamefromschenectady: Bannanaslug: Some things, like medicine, are really easy because its the same active ingredient

People have had nightmarish experiences (reported problems and told they were imagining things) because they took a generic medicine, and it didn't work, and it turned out the FDA didn't specifically test all of the dosage formulations to approve them. Quality control, whether something dissolves properly or it has the right amount of the active ingredient - many things can go wrong even if the active ingredient is the same.


That sucks, a link would be nice because I'm curious what brands were that bad. But my comment is still true, lots of good 3rd party brands out there, and for prescription there isn't any reason not to go generic if you have the option. I would be more worried about the issues like I mentioned in the post than mislabeled medicine, which sounds like something criminal and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
 
5 days ago  
I can say that I have been pretty much universally happy with any and all things Kirkland
 
5 days ago  

itcamefromschenectady: I get that making something store brand doesn't cause it to be worse, but if it was good enough to build a reputation for repeat business, then they would sell it under a brand.


Not necessarily -- it often comes from the exact same factory, which makes both name brands and off-brand stuff.

There's always SOME people who will only buy name-brand no matter what, and there are others that will simply buy whatever is the cheapest.  A single company cranking out both the name brand and a generic can capture both markets without losing profits by lowering the price on their name-brand.

Back in high school I did some temp work in bottling plant. All morning they would make the name brand stuff, then stop the machine, change the labels, and start 'making' the store brand. Stop the machine a while later, load some different store brand labels, and fire it up again.  In that case, the store brand stuff was 100% identical, but would cost you half as much.

(Sometimes they would tweak some of the ingredient percentages slightly or use a different flavoring, but the production facilities, ingredients, quality control and factory workers would be exactly the same, regardless of whatever brand name it was labeled as.)
 
5 days ago  
My FIL works for a large private food manufacturer/packager. He says that they package name brand stuff then switch packaging and fulfill store brand orders in the same production run.  Apparently the practice isn't uncommon.
 
5 days ago  

scottydoesntknow: I buy store brand for pretty much everything, except toilet paper. You'll have to pry my Charmin Plus with Aloe out of my cold, destitute hands.


I recent upgraded from Target brand TP to Charmin. Hemorrhoids will do that.

I buy store brands as much as possible. There are a few exceptions. Kraft Macaroni and Cheese springs to mind as worth the upgrade.

The only store I've found to have really shiatty store brand stuff is Wal-Mart. YMMV.
 
5 days ago  
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Just as good as the fancy brands.
 
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I rest my case.
 
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5 days ago  

theropod: Reaction to most grocery store house brands: Meh.

Reaction when Trader Joe's does it: HOLY FARKFARTS ARTISAN TUSCAN CHIPOTLE SAMOSAS


Some of the TJs brands are actually made by large manufacturers and private labeled for TJs.  The labels will be different but you can sometimes tell from the shape of the bottle or the box it comes in
 
5 days ago  

Excelsior: itcamefromschenectady: I get that making something store brand doesn't cause it to be worse, but if it was good enough to build a reputation for repeat business, then they would sell it under a brand.

Not necessarily -- it often comes from the exact same factory, which makes both name brands and off-brand stuff.

There's always SOME people who will only buy name-brand no matter what, and there are others that will simply buy whatever is the cheapest.  A single company cranking out both the name brand and a generic can capture both markets without losing profits by lowering the price on their name-brand.

Back in high school I did some temp work in bottling plant. All morning they would make the name brand stuff, then stop the machine, change the labels, and start 'making' the store brand. Stop the machine a while later, load some different store brand labels, and fire it up again.  In that case, the store brand stuff was 100% identical, but would cost you half as much.

(Sometimes they would tweak some of the ingredient percentages slightly or use a different flavoring, but the production facilities, ingredients, quality control and factory workers would be exactly the same, regardless of whatever brand name it was labeled as.)


This.  When I'm tempted to try out a new store brand, I usually try to Google who makes that item (or items in general) for a particular store.  Many times it's just a repackaged name brand, such as Walmart's Peanut Butter is made by Peter Pan, Kirkland Batteries are made by Duracell, Kirkland Signature French Vodka is bottled by Grey Goose, their "House Blend" coffee is made by Starbucks (yes, Starbucks), Trader Joe's Organic Shells and White Cheddar ($1.29/box) is made by Annie's Organic Shells & White Cheddar ($3.49/box).. The list goes on and on.

Many times the savings are made up by packaging and advertising. Those $Millions$ of dollars usually spent on advertising translate to direct savings on the products in the store.
 
5 days ago  
I specifically go to Safeway to buy store brand stuff.
 
5 days ago  

thurstonxhowell: I specifically go to Safeway to buy store brand stuff.


Depends on which label, but I generally go to Safeway because I live practically next door to one.

Their strawberry oatmeal store brand is better tasting to me than the Quaker Oats one. I also enjoyed their blonde coffee. They now have an even cheaper bare bones "value corner" brand, and I got a huge drum of laundry detergent for 5$. I also tried their value corner elbow macaroni and that was great.

Their private selection or pantry essentials fire logs farking suck ass. They never light The first try, I end up having to put paper below it.

Quality just depends per product. I wish I could just trust a store brands everything.
 
5 days ago  
I've been buying store brands most of my life.  Most are pretty much the same, some are suckier, some are better.

This article reads like a precursor excuse to raise the price on store brands and charge more for them.  In effectm the Black Angus scam:  Take the generic version of beef, the Black Angus, the most common beef cow and actually charge more for it.
 
5 days ago  

Jaws_Victim: thurstonxhowell: I specifically go to Safeway to buy store brand stuff.

Depends on which label, but I generally go to Safeway because I live practically next door to one.

Their strawberry oatmeal store brand is better tasting to me than the Quaker Oats one. I also enjoyed their blonde coffee. They now have an even cheaper bare bones "value corner" brand, and I got a huge drum of laundry detergent for 5$. I also tried their value corner elbow macaroni and that was great.

Their private selection or pantry essentials fire logs farking suck ass. They never light The first try, I end up having to put paper below it.

Quality just depends per product. I wish I could just trust a store brands everything.


The pasta sauce. You won't find better without paying 3x more. Even then, I'm not sure you could beat the arabiatta.
 
5 days ago  

itcamefromschenectady: There are a million ways a product can be messed up that's not obvious, and if you happen to be lucky and find something good, tomorrow they can change the supplier and you're out of luck.


This is the reason I no longer buy any of Walmart's Great Value brand. You try it and it's fine, then 6-9 months later it's suddenly horrible. I've had this happen on more of their products than I can count.
 
5 days ago  
some stores are good, some are utter crap.  even within one store, some things are great, some is utter crap
 
5 days ago  

Brandi Morgan: [img.fark.net image 600x600]
I rest my case.


too bad they don't sell liquor in my costco
 
5 days ago  
With a few exceptions, store brands are THE SAME product in a different package. Trust me, I do this for a living. Certain Big Brand companies' products are specifically no available to private label sellers. Heinz Ketchup, Coke, Pepsi, Listerine to name a few. Most times the PL brand is THE EXACT SAME and the name brand.
 
5 days ago  

Brandi Morgan: [img.fark.net image 600x600]
I rest my case.


I think you meant to post the made in France stuff.
 
5 days ago  
Winco brand saltine crackers, not good. Nabisco brand, good.
 
5 days ago  

knbwhite: Private Selection from Smith's grocery is usually good.  I'm not sure if their parent Kroger uses the same name for things though.


They do, and I've noticed an upswing in both quality and, for lack of a better word, fanciness of the private selection offerings. 10 years ago, you could buy a private selection pepperoni pizza. Now, you can buy a calabrese salami and marinated peppers pizza. They've made a conscious decision to elevate the brand from cheaper alternative to direct competitor on quality.

Also, the Private Selection BBQ sauce is just the best. Just straight up better than any of the other brands they sell.
 
5 days ago  

GrailOfThunder: Many times it's just a repackaged name brand, such as Walmart's Peanut Butter is made by Peter Pan


Well, they're both made by Conagra, or at least they were at one time, but that doesn't mean they're the same product. It's a common misconception that store brands are the same as their name brand equivalent, that's almost never ever the case. Even when the items are made in the same factory, it's not like they simply switch labels and put the same product inside.

Pretty much all packaged food sold in the US is made by one of the top conglomerates, like Conagra, General Mills, Nestlé, Kraft Foods, etc. Aside from the name brands they own, these same companies make pretty much every store brand product as well. While the store brands may be equally as good, they're not the exact same product.

For a good example of this, one needs to look no further than the Anheuser-Busch company, they own over 400 brands of beer, and while the Fark snobs might argue they're all crap, nobody will claim they're all the same beer in different bottles.
 
5 days ago  

BEER_ME_in_CT: With a few exceptions, store brands are THE SAME product in a different package. Trust me, I do this for a living. Certain Big Brand companies' products are specifically no available to private label sellers. Heinz Ketchup, Coke, Pepsi, Listerine to name a few. Most times the PL brand is THE EXACT SAME and the name brand.


Yup.  Same thing in the coffee biz, folks.
 
5 days ago  

bingethinker: It depends on which store brands, and which items.


Yeah, while Trader Joe's and CostCo have great store brands, everything I've tried at Whole Foods (365 label or some such) is not good.  Particularly paper products.  Great that they're 90% recycled or whatever, but I don't want paper towels that break apart and TP that doesn't when flushed.
 
5 days ago  

Brandi Morgan: [img.fark.net image 600x600]
I rest my case.


I brought this stuff up in the vodka thread a few weeks ago. This goes for 13$ at my Costco, but last time I noticed they had a 20$ bottle labeled "French style" right next to the 45$ grey goose. It's better than the cheap stuff (which is not bad either) but it has ruined all other vodak for me, I just can't shell out more money for a drink that is supposed to be very light on taste anyway.
 
5 days ago  
The Trader Joe's version of fig newtons are delicious and much better than the nabisco ones. Safeway store made tortilla chips are also much better than brand name ones from national companies and even the local ones here.
 
5 days ago  

Dr.Fey: bingethinker: It depends on which store brands, and which items.

Yeah, while Trader Joe's and CostCo have great store brands, everything I've tried at Whole Foods (365 label or some such) is not good.  Particularly paper products.  Great that they're 90% recycled or whatever, but I don't want paper towels that break apart and TP that doesn't when flushed.


Sounds like you need to swap locations of those two products.
 
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