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(SacBee)   Suspected gas leak at Catholic high school turns out to be, you guessed it, dead cats in formaldehyde   ( sacbee.com) divider line
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2018-11-08 04:49:54 PM  
Right the first time!
 
2018-11-08 04:53:28 PM  
Science teacher here.  We all know what dissection day smells like.
 
2018-11-08 05:51:35 PM  
The rector was leaking gas from his rectum.
 
2018-11-08 05:54:13 PM  

Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: The rector was leaking gas from his rectum.


Damn near killed 'im.
 
TWX
2018-11-08 05:57:22 PM  
That's not some kind of euphemism for something to do with the nuns, is it?
 
2018-11-08 05:58:12 PM  
That's always my first guess.
 
2018-11-08 06:07:30 PM  
The headline tells you all you want to know. Way to encourage readers to RTFA. Works perfect for Fark.
 
2018-11-08 06:09:09 PM  
That's not really something I would have guessed right off, subby.
 
2018-11-08 06:10:55 PM  
Josie: "Hello and welcome to 'Dead Cats'! A hundred and nine recipes that you can do with your pussy!"

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2018-11-08 06:11:02 PM  
Catholic girls school.... pussies in formaldehyde...... there's a joke in there somewhere.
 
2018-11-08 06:13:45 PM  
Still a notch better than the live ones in formaldehyde

//the splashing and hissing rounds really put it over the edge...
 
2018-11-08 06:14:28 PM  
 
2018-11-08 06:16:25 PM  
<------ free STEM cats?
 
2018-11-08 06:20:23 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: Science teacher here.  We all know what dissection day smells like.


I dissected dead cats in formaldehyde in catholic HS, so I am getting a kick.
 
2018-11-08 06:20:59 PM  
I guessed Frank Stallone
 
2018-11-08 06:21:57 PM  
Sounds like some "Catholic High School Girls" might be in "Trouble".
 
2018-11-08 06:25:11 PM  

cettin: I guessed Frank Stallone


If the answer isn't Frank Stallone, you're asking the wrong question.
 
2018-11-08 06:26:27 PM  

sunderland56: Catholic girls school.... pussies in formaldehyde...... there's a joke in there somewhere.


they're really saving it for Jesus's second coming.
 
2018-11-08 06:31:40 PM  

hashtag.acronym: sunderland56: Catholic girls school.... pussies in formaldehyde...... there's a joke in there somewhere.

they're really saving it for Jesus's second coming.


Jesus like his own sloppy seconds I guess.
 
2018-11-08 06:34:53 PM  

Northern: TheHighlandHowler: Science teacher here.  We all know what dissection day smells like.

I dissected dead cats in formaldehyde in catholic HS, so I am getting a kick.


I am now (just recently) dating a woman I first met in Catholic High School, twenty years after we graduated (we were in the same grade, pervs). They are really amazing in bed.
 
2018-11-08 06:35:46 PM  

BretMavrik: Sounds like some "Catholic High School Girls" might be in "Trouble".


Came for this...
 
2018-11-08 06:42:58 PM  
Catechism will never be the same.
 
2018-11-08 06:59:20 PM  
If you've smelt that smell you don't forget that smell.
 
2018-11-08 07:02:58 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Dafuq? NSF...something
https://www.carolina.com/preserved-cat​s/formalin-preserved-cats/FAM_228000.p​r


Carolina Biological Supply has had some...issues...over the years about where all those animals come from and how they euthanize them. Likely they get many from area shelters, but I'm betting there aren't any strays running around in that town.
 
2018-11-08 07:20:10 PM  
It was probably the Shepherd's Pie.
 
2018-11-08 07:20:32 PM  
That's where I went to high school
/hated cat dissection day
/go troubies!
 
2018-11-08 07:32:49 PM  
I thought the priests might have finally pulled out of the altar boys.
 
2018-11-08 07:33:27 PM  
Rule 34?
/runs
 
2018-11-08 07:34:18 PM  
Came for Frank Stallone.
 
2018-11-08 07:39:04 PM  
(insert fart joke here).

/ tired
 
2018-11-08 07:56:37 PM  
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2018-11-08 08:15:16 PM  
So old nun smell?
 
2018-11-08 08:37:25 PM  
Some things never change!
 
2018-11-08 08:37:55 PM  

Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Northern: TheHighlandHowler: Science teacher here.  We all know what dissection day smells like.

I dissected dead cats in formaldehyde in catholic HS, so I am getting a kick.

I am now (just recently) dating a woman I first met in Catholic High School, twenty years after we graduated (we were in the same grade, pervs). They are really amazing in bed.


Heck yeah we are. A-maz-ing

Anyhoo, we dissected a crapload of things in my Catholic grade school and high school: fetal sharks, fetal pigs, fetal kittens, earthworms, frogs, starfish, and more. I will probably die as a direct result of being around so much formaldehyde during my tweens and teens.
 
2018-11-08 08:48:08 PM  
Miss5280:

Anyhoo, we dissected a crapload of things in my Catholic grade school and high school: fetal sharks, fetal pigs, fetal kittens, earthworms, frogs, starfish, and more. I will probably die as a direct result of being around so much formaldehyde during my tweens and teens.

I missed out of dissections. I opted out of biology in grade 9 (or was it ten). Here in Winnipeg, at the time, grades 9 through 10 were called Senior 1 - 4.
 
2018-11-08 08:48:25 PM  
Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.
 
2018-11-08 08:52:33 PM  

Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.


I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.
 
2018-11-08 09:26:47 PM  

Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.


That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.
 
2018-11-08 09:44:22 PM  

Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.


You sound vegan.
 
2018-11-08 09:50:19 PM  

Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.


It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

If it's anything below a mammal, doesn't bother me. The mammals should be used very judiciously.

They have gotten rid of dog lab for med school physiology. That was illustrative but probably not educational enough to sacrifice a dog.

Animals are property, and many of us eat them. If we use them, for whatever purpose, it should be worth the sacrifice.

How is a kid going to know if they're interested in the subject matter if they don't get exposed?
 
2018-11-08 09:56:49 PM  

Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.


Everything I learned by doing so many dissections was incredibly valuable to me and I couldn't have learned that on any kind of simulation. If I had children, I'd make sure they went to schools that had a science programs where they dissected in biology classes.
 
2018-11-08 10:38:54 PM  
Christ, can't swing a dead cat in here without someone making a commotion.
 
2018-11-09 12:43:46 AM  

Miss5280: Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.

Everything I learned by doing so many dissections was incredibly valuable to me and I couldn't have learned that on any kind of simulation. If I had children, I'd make sure they went to schools that had a science programs where they dissected in biology classes.


Jeffery Dahmer lives!
 
2018-11-09 12:45:50 AM  

lake_huron: Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.

It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

If it's anything below a mammal, doesn't bother me. The mammals should be used very judiciously.

They have gotten rid of dog lab for med school physiology. That was illustrative but probably not educational enough to sacrifice a dog.

Animals are property, and many of us eat them. If we use them, for whatever purpose, it should be worth the sacrifice.

How is a kid going to know if they're interested in the subject matter if they don't get exposed?


So by that measure we should get all the kids a prostitute and porn movies so they can see if they want to enter into that industry. How will they know if they aren't exposed to it?
 
2018-11-09 08:47:28 AM  

punkwrestler: lake_huron: Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.

It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

If it's anything below a mammal, doesn't bother me. The mammals should be used very judiciously.

They have gotten rid of dog lab for med school physiology. That was illustrative but probably not educational enough to sacrifice a dog.

Animals are property, and many of us eat them. If we use them, for whatever purpose, it should be worth the sacrifice.

How is a kid going to know if they're interested in the subject matter if they don't get exposed?

So by that measure we should get all the kids a prostitute and porn movies so they can see if they want to enter into that industry. How will they know if they aren't exposed to it?


Really? That false equivalency between one of the mainstays of biology education for hundreds of years, and porn?  That is the best argument you have against dissection?

I've been a physician for 18 years so I'm qualified to have an opinion on this. Your qualifications?
 
2018-11-09 08:55:03 AM  

Northern: TheHighlandHowler: Science teacher here.  We all know what dissection day smells like.

I dissected dead cats in formaldehyde in catholic HS, so I am getting a kick.


I got out of Catholic school before dissection day so in public it was (in order:) sheep's eyeball, frog, fetal pig. One of my lab partners passed out for two of those.

/ I still maintain I did not intentionally squirt aqueous humor at him
// I did find it hilarious when she shrieked like a screaming goat
/// I'll give him a pass on the pig incident- they'd been brining in the formaldehyde a few days longer than recommended
 
2018-11-09 08:55:50 AM  

lake_huron: punkwrestler: lake_huron: Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.

It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

If it's anything below a mammal, doesn't bother me. The mammals should be used very judiciously.

They have gotten rid of dog lab for med school physiology. That was illustrative but probably not educational enough to sacrifice a dog.

Animals are property, and many of us eat them. If we use them, for whatever purpose, it should be worth the sacrifice.

How is a kid going to know if they're interested in the subject matter if they don't get exposed?

So by that measure we should get all the kids a prostitute and porn movies so they can see if they want to enter into that industry. How will they know if they aren't exposed to it?

Really? That false equivalency between one of the mainstays of biology education for hundreds of years, and porn?  That is the best argument you have against dissection?

I've been a physician for 18 years so I'm qualified to have an opinion on this. Your qualifications?


I've watched porn for a number of years.
 
2018-11-09 08:57:15 AM  

lake_huron: punkwrestler: lake_huron: Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.

It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

If it's anything below a mammal, doesn't bother me. The mammals should be used very judiciously.

They have gotten rid of dog lab for med school physiology. That was illustrative but probably not educational enough to sacrifice a dog.

Animals are property, and many of us eat them. If we use them, for whatever purpose, it should be worth the sacrifice.

How is a kid going to know if they're interested in the subject matter if they don't get exposed?

So by that measure we should get all the kids a prostitute and porn movies so they can see if they want to enter into that industry. How will they know if they aren't exposed to it?

Really? That false equivalency between one of the mainstays of biology education for hundreds of years, and porn?  That is the best argument you have against dissection?

I've been a physician for 18 years so I'm qualified to have an opinion on this. Your qualifications?


Also let's not forget the oldest profession is Prostitution! So if the kids want to go into the most traditional profession they will become prostitutes!
 
2018-11-09 09:15:40 AM  

Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Northern: TheHighlandHowler: Science teacher here.  We all know what dissection day smells like.

I dissected dead cats in formaldehyde in catholic HS, so I am getting a kick.

I am now (just recently) dating a woman I first met in Catholic High School, twenty years after we graduated (we were in the same grade, pervs). They are really amazing in bed.


I married someone not of the faith, also great in bed.  This warrants additional research.  Not sure the wife will agree.
/all boys HS
 
2018-11-09 10:32:06 AM  
Northern:
I married someone not of the faith, also great in bed.  This warrants additional research.  Not sure the wife will agree.
/all boys HS


Neither of us are of the faith. We had catholic parents. We didn't buy into that non-sense.
 
2018-11-09 01:34:31 PM  

Boojum2k: Mock26: Who Flipped The Crazy Switch On The Matrix: Mock26: Farking monsters. Dissection is an outdated and barbaric practice that belongs on the trash heap.

I want to hear you say that after your first life saving procedure.

That is what medical cadavers are for. And if you want to push for dissecting animals for the sake of medicine then limit it to those who have already started down the road to a career in that area. Kids in school dissecting dead animals serves no practical purpose.

You sound vegan.


Yeah, right. I just had steak and eggs for breakfast with a side of bacon. I just do not see any practical purpose for dissection of animals in Junior or Senior High School.  Most kids will never be cutting into humans or animals as part of their careers and for those who might it is something that can best be left for them to do when they go off to college. Anything they may learn from dissecting animals in public school can be taught with a book.
 
2018-11-09 01:41:26 PM  

lake_huron: It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.


Yeah, so what? For the vast majority of those in public school that knowledge serves no practical purpose. I am a web developer and before that data support for a stock exchange. Dissecting various animals in 7th grade did not help me in any way. And anything I learned about the anatomy of those animals was forgotten before I even started high school. 

Yeah, yeah, I get it, there is the whole idea about producing young adults with a well-rounded education, but knowing "how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are" serves no practical purpose for most of the students in public school. But, since you obviously disagree, tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.
 
2018-11-09 01:44:41 PM  

lake_huron: How is a kid going to know if they're interested in the subject matter if they don't get exposed?


So, what, are you saying that the only way kids would be interested in becoming (insert some career) is by dissecting animals?  Bull. My junior high school in my city was the only one that offered it at the time. The other three had done away with it. And it was not offered in our high school at all. Yet some of my classmates somehow managed to become interested in careers in medicine and biology and medical research. Imagine that.
 
2018-11-09 03:51:32 PM  

Mock26: lake_huron: It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

Yeah, so what? For the vast majority of those in public school that knowledge serves no practical purpose. I am a web developer and before that data support for a stock exchange. Dissecting various animals in 7th grade did not help me in any way. And anything I learned about the anatomy of those animals was forgotten before I even started high school. 

Yeah, yeah, I get it, there is the whole idea about producing young adults with a well-rounded education, but knowing "how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are" serves no practical purpose for most of the students in public school. But, since you obviously disagree, tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.


Therefore, anything you learned that did not contribute to you being a web developer was a waste and should be in nobody"s educational curriculum. I get it.
 
2018-11-09 04:11:07 PM  

lake_huron: Mock26: lake_huron: It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

Yeah, so what? For the vast majority of those in public school that knowledge serves no practical purpose. I am a web developer and before that data support for a stock exchange. Dissecting various animals in 7th grade did not help me in any way. And anything I learned about the anatomy of those animals was forgotten before I even started high school. 

Yeah, yeah, I get it, there is the whole idea about producing young adults with a well-rounded education, but knowing "how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are" serves no practical purpose for most of the students in public school. But, since you obviously disagree, tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.

Therefore, anything you learned that did not contribute to you being a web developer was a waste and should be in nobody"s educational curriculum. I get it.


Tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.

Gonna take a stab at those?
 
2018-11-09 09:15:15 PM  

Mock26: lake_huron: Mock26: lake_huron: It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

Yeah, so what? For the vast majority of those in public school that knowledge serves no practical purpose. I am a web developer and before that data support for a stock exchange. Dissecting various animals in 7th grade did not help me in any way. And anything I learned about the anatomy of those animals was forgotten before I even started high school. 

Yeah, yeah, I get it, there is the whole idea about producing young adults with a well-rounded education, but knowing "how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are" serves no practical purpose for most of the students in public school. But, since you obviously disagree, tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.

Therefore, anything you learned that did not contribute to you being a web developer was a waste and should be in nobody"s educational curriculum. I get it.

Tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.

Gonna take a stab at those?


You are correct. There is absolutely nothing to be learned from a dissection besides that the organs are tightly packed.  That is the only fact to be learned from dissection, so it has no value whatsoever.

Your arguments have overturned hundreds of years of knowledge.  I stand humbled.

I look forward to your pronouncements on what books have no value and should not be taught, what periods of history should not be taught, and what branches of mathematics have no use to most people, I.e. anything past basic arithmetic and geometry, since nobody uses trigonometry on a daily basis.

Please come be the superintendent of my children's school system. The schools crave the revolution which you herald.
 
2018-11-09 09:42:42 PM  
Fine, a company which sells animals for dissection has an even-handed discussion. You can argue it is in their self-interest and not look at it if you like:
https://m.carolina.com/teacher-resour​c​es/Interactive/dissection-faqs/tr10913​.tr

Basically your question is whether hands-on science provides knowledge which book knowledge does not. If you argue that dissection has no value, you are also saying that physics and chemistry labs have no value.  It is essentially a denial of the value of hands-on science.

Did you do a chemistry lab? Hard to get the experimental yield you do on paper. To translate it into terms more familiar, lab science is about DEBUGGING. Getting the experiment to work. Finding the gall bladder tucked in behind the liver, no so easy to find not helpfully colored with red arteries and blue veins.

Understanding the interrelationships of organs is analogous to a physics experiment with springs or organic synthesis. Sure, you can read all the books you want, but it's qualitatively different.

I got a doctorate in biophysics first. Reading about X-ray crystallography or protein purification was a lot easier than doing it.

Does a lack of one of those experiences cripple you for life? Of course not. But we still teach Dickens, too. It's a valuable part of a broad education.  And who uses trig?

If you think you should also teach chemistry or physics without a lab class then at least you are consistent. But that's a very narrow view of the world which scientists, physicians, and science educators do not share.
 
2018-11-09 09:51:58 PM  

lake_huron: Mock26: lake_huron: Mock26: lake_huron: It really does give a different understanding of anatomy to actually see and feel the structures. Virtual anatomy is not the same. You don't understand how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are until you see them.

Yeah, so what? For the vast majority of those in public school that knowledge serves no practical purpose. I am a web developer and before that data support for a stock exchange. Dissecting various animals in 7th grade did not help me in any way. And anything I learned about the anatomy of those animals was forgotten before I even started high school. 

Yeah, yeah, I get it, there is the whole idea about producing young adults with a well-rounded education, but knowing "how tightly packed and interconnected the structures are" serves no practical purpose for most of the students in public school. But, since you obviously disagree, tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.

Therefore, anything you learned that did not contribute to you being a web developer was a waste and should be in nobody"s educational curriculum. I get it.

Tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.


Tell me why for the vast majority of students that just knowing the various organs of a cat, for example, is not as good as knowing that those organs are tightly packed together. Tell me why knowing they are packed so tightly together is so damned important.

Gonna take a stab at those?

You are correct. There is absolutely nothing to be learned from a dissection besides that the organs are tightly packed.  That is the only fact to be learned from dissection, so it has no value whatsoever.

Your arguments have overturned hundreds of years of knowledge.  I stand humbled.

I look forward to your pronouncements on what books have no value and should not be taught, what periods of history should not be taught, and what branches of mathematics have no use to most people, I.e. anything past basic arithmetic and geometry, since nobody uses trigonometry on a daily basis.

Please come be the superintendent of my children's school system. The schools crave the revolution which you herald.


You yourself said that they no longer dissect dogs at medical school because it is, and I quote, "probably not educational enough to sacrifice a dog." If dissecting a dog in farking medical school is not educational enough for medical students then how in bloody farking hades is any dissection educational enough for students, the vast majority of whom will never enter into the fields of medicine or biology?

For someone who is supposedly qualified to have an opinion on this your opinion does not seem to be worth a pile of rancid whale schitt. You go on and on about how this knowledge is so damned important, that hundreds of years of knowledge cannot be wrong, despite the fact that in a previous post you pretty much said that knowledge gained from dissecting a dog is "not educational enough"for medical students! One would think that future doctors, people who will probably be cutting into living people, would benefit from dissecting animals in medical school, but according to you, it is "not educational enough."
 
2018-11-09 10:02:06 PM  

lake_huron: Basically your question is whether hands-on science provides knowledge which book knowledge does not. If you argue that dissection has no value, you are also saying that physics and chemistry labs have no value.  It is essentially a denial of the value of hands-on science.


No. I have not argued that it has no value. I have argued that it has no value for the vast majority of public school students, because the vast majority of them will never go on to careers in the fields of medicine or biology.  Care to explain what exactly all the retail salespeople, cashiers, office clerks, cooks, waitstaff, customer service reps, factory workers, janitors, garbage men, stock clerks, secretaries, truck drivers, construction workers, and all the other non-medical/biology workers gained from dissecting an actual animal that they could not have learned from a book? And remember, you said that dog lab was probably of no educational value for would be doctors in Medical school. 

As for your source, geez, I bet in all the gun discussions you regularly link to the NRA website as a source of information on why owning a gun is good. or did you ever stop to think that one of the biggest suppliers of animals for dissection might just be biased on the subject? 

And again, because you seem to have missed it every single farking time I have said, I am not saying that there is nothing to be gained from dissection. I am saying that it is of no benefit for the vast majority of people in public school (all those people who will grow up to be retail salespeople, cashiers, office clerks, cooks, waitstaff, customer service reps, factory workers, janitors, garbage men, stock clerks, secretaries, truck drivers, construction workers, and all the other non-medical/biology workers).
 
2018-11-09 10:11:39 PM  
I pointed out up front that the source was biased. Not sure why you act like it was a discovery to point that out  I happen to agree with their arguments.

The dog lab was a LIVE PHSYIOLOGY lab. Not anatomy. We got to see lungs at work, see the heart beating in situ, and so on. Not an anatomy lab. If you don't understand the distinction, perhaps you didn't learn enough biology.

Your argument of "no value to clerks and cashiers" is ultimately stupid.  Because you can use that argument for every.single thing you ever learned in school.

Which ignores the entire point of education, Which is to learn about a lot of things as background for what you eventually do.

Help me understand your thought process by answering these two questions:
1. Should we teach physics in high school?
2. Should physics have a lab component?
 
2018-11-09 11:54:22 PM  
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