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(NBC News)   Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum: On second thought, I unconcede   ( nbcnews.com) divider line
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2018-11-08 03:35:11 PM  
Unconcede?  That's not a real word.  Cheating at scrabble much?  No big surprise since Democrats cheat at everything else.
 
2018-11-08 03:35:27 PM  
Good.

I hope the vote count keeps on going and going and going.
 
2018-11-08 03:35:28 PM  
We're his fingers crossed when he conceded?  If not, then no backsies!!
 
2018-11-08 03:36:20 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Good.

I hope the vote count keeps on going and going and going.


If both Nelson and Gillum pull this off...

Ho-Lee-Chit
 
2018-11-08 03:36:47 PM  
Crazy idea, maybe we should start getting into the habit of waiting to call elections for specific candidates until all the votes are counted, Jesus farking Christ
 
2018-11-08 03:36:48 PM  
Florida gonna Florida
 
2018-11-08 03:37:03 PM  
Well good luck, but if 43,000 switched votes show up I think there is going to be a problem.
 
2018-11-08 03:37:12 PM  
Conceding was classy and well-mannered, but (one can hope) premature.

Dems need to learn that "classy and well-mannered" gets them absolutely nothing, when trying to save the country from t(R)aitors and (R)acists who laugh at the rule of law.  And common decency.  And logic.  And facts.
 
2018-11-08 03:37:25 PM  
Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?
 
2018-11-08 03:37:25 PM  

Elandriel: Unconcede?  That's not a real word.  Cheating at scrabble much?  No big surprise since Democrats cheat at everything else.


Convfefe!
 
2018-11-08 03:37:27 PM  
JED! HURRY UP AND STUFF THOSE DAMN BALLOTS IN THE SEWER!
 
2018-11-08 03:37:27 PM  
Not really an unconcede, since it was only phrased in an auto-recount territory.
 
2018-11-08 03:37:30 PM  
 
2018-11-08 03:38:30 PM  

Elandriel: Unconcede?  That's not a real word.  Cheating at scrabble much?  No big surprise since Democrats cheat at everything else.


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2018-11-08 03:38:41 PM  
F*cking Florida.
 
2018-11-08 03:39:18 PM  
Can't we just let them have a cage fight on ppv?
 
2018-11-08 03:39:24 PM  
The democratic ag commissioner candidate is already past her rival in votes.

https://floridaelectionwatch.gov/Stat​e​Offices/CommissionerOfAgriculture
 
2018-11-08 03:40:02 PM  
It moved, Jerry.
 
2018-11-08 03:41:02 PM  

Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?


Well, that depends. If a Republican concedes, but the final vote count makes them the winner, then the concession is void. If a Democrat concedes, it's binding not only for this election but also the next.
 
2018-11-08 03:42:53 PM  
Uh, it's called "within the margin of automatic recount".
 
2018-11-08 03:43:29 PM  
We've been through this before. Conceding has no legal weight. It means nothing.
The facts are, the votes must continue to be counted and the totals certified. If the margin is less than 0.5%, there must be a recount. Griping about this is little more than parading personal ignorance.
 
2018-11-08 03:43:58 PM  

Green_Knight: Well good luck, but if 43,000 switched votes show up I think there is going to be a problem.


I'm not sure it's "switched" so much as it is previously uncounted votes, or maybe provisionals that were disregarded for no reason, etc.
 
2018-11-08 03:44:04 PM  
I'm fully expecting conservatives to go with "NO TAKESIE BACKSIES" on this one, as they scoot tiny dump trucks through piles of sand.
 
2018-11-08 03:44:07 PM  

Elandriel: Unconcede?  That's not a real word.  Cheating at scrabble much?  No big surprise since Democrats cheat at everything else.


Oh bless your heart!
 
2018-11-08 03:44:08 PM  

Jeff5: Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?

Well, that depends. If a Republican concedes, but the final vote count makes them the winner, then the concession is void. If a Democrat concedes, it's binding not only for this election but also the next.


But seriously, why does anybody need to concede at all? The final vote count is the only thing that matters. They will tell you if you concede or not.
 
2018-11-08 03:44:52 PM  

Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?


Means nothing. Technically he cannot ask for a recount of say stop a recount.  Florida law makes a recount automatic at certain percentages and then when it gets really tight, they have (as in mandated) to be hand counted.

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2018-11-08 03:45:35 PM  

thehobbes: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Good.

I hope the vote count keeps on going and going and going.

If both Nelson and Gillum pull this off...

Ho-Lee-Chit


We're not going to be that blessed. But damn it. I want them to win so much. WTF is wrong with Florida that scumbag racist and a criminal fraud who stole 100 million get so much support?
 
2018-11-08 03:46:23 PM  

thehobbes: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Good.

I hope the vote count keeps on going and going and going.

If both Nelson and Gillum pull this off...

Ho-Lee-Chit


Possible that Nelson pulls it off but Gillum can't.  If either/both do, I will rub one out.
 
2018-11-08 03:46:33 PM  
Both the Governor and Senate races have triggered a recount. Gillum was up in the polls until election day and then originally lost by a couple of points. I've thought something smelled about that since Tuesday.
 
2018-11-08 03:46:40 PM  

Pincy: Jeff5: Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?

Well, that depends. If a Republican concedes, but the final vote count makes them the winner, then the concession is void. If a Democrat concedes, it's binding not only for this election but also the next.

But seriously, why does anybody need to concede at all? The final vote count is the only thing that matters. They will tell you if you concede or not.


It's done to promote the peaceful transition of power. It's the handshake at the end of the game, but more important as it relates to democracy.
 
2018-11-08 03:46:54 PM  
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/From Florida
//Voted Gillium and Nelson
 
2018-11-08 03:46:56 PM  
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2018-11-08 03:47:08 PM  

thehobbes: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Good.

I hope the vote count keeps on going and going and going.

If both Nelson and Gillum pull this off...

Ho-Lee-Chit


Imagine the Cheeto losing it if Gillum and/or Scott were to lose...

Oh, the froth dust would be hilarious.
 
2018-11-08 03:47:10 PM  
Nobody should concede before 100% of the votes are tallied.  I don't care if it looks like it's a sure thing.  People deserve to have their voting voices heard before a winner is declared.  It's also why I hate projections based on exit polling results before the polls have closed.
 
2018-11-08 03:47:39 PM  
I was reading either on another thread or somewhere else that all counties need both the regular election and the recount done (by hand) in a stupid short time frame. Broward & Miami/Dade basically said no f'n way this gets done that quick
 
2018-11-08 03:47:47 PM  

mrshowrules: Possible that Nelson pulls it off but Gillum can't.  If either/both do, I will rub one out.


Fark is not your personal erotica site.
 
2018-11-08 03:48:06 PM  
*crosses fingers, paws, and wings*
 
2018-11-08 03:48:15 PM  
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2018-11-08 03:48:27 PM  
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Tim Russert is getting up from his grave. Twice
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2018-11-08 03:48:31 PM  
Real classy
 
2018-11-08 03:48:36 PM  
Good. There is no way on earth 19% of black females voted for desantass. The russians didn't think this one through.
 
2018-11-08 03:49:19 PM  

Jeff5: Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?

Well, that depends. If a Republican concedes, but the final vote count makes them the winner, then the concession is void. If a Democrat concedes, it's binding not only for this election but also the next.


Republicans avoid that by just not conceding. Isn't Roy Moore still disputing his Senate defeat?
 
2018-11-08 03:49:40 PM  

A_Listless_Wanderer: mrshowrules: Possible that Nelson pulls it off but Gillum can't.  If either/both do, I will rub one out.

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2018-11-08 03:49:52 PM  

Pincy: Jeff5: Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?

Well, that depends. If a Republican concedes, but the final vote count makes them the winner, then the concession is void. If a Democrat concedes, it's binding not only for this election but also the next.

But seriously, why does anybody need to concede at all? The final vote count is the only thing that matters. They will tell you if you concede or not.


"Gentleman's Rules" is why it happens. You're supposed to gracefully exit and help unify after an election. Yes that's facetious these days when it comes to many candidates, but it still exists for that reason.
 
2018-11-08 03:50:12 PM  

fsufan: Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?

Means nothing. Technically he cannot ask for a recount of say stop a recount.  Florida law makes a recount automatic at certain percentages and then when it gets really tight, they have (as in mandated) to be hand counted.

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Exactly, this is all out of the candidate's hands. The final vote tally will determine the winner and if it's too close then an automatic recount will be done. No reason for a politician to concede at all.
 
2018-11-08 03:50:16 PM  
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2018-11-08 03:50:16 PM  
BTW, does anyone have any idea as to why exit polls show 18% of black women voted for DeSantis? That can't be right, can it?
 
2018-11-08 03:50:51 PM  

Vifa: Real classy


What is real classy? It's a Florida election law that automatic recounts are triggered when the difference in votes dips below a certain level.
 
2018-11-08 03:51:23 PM  

Pincy: Jeff5: Pincy: Does a candidate saying they concede even mean anything legally? If he says it and then three days later it turns out he actually has more votes, he still wins, right?

Well, that depends. If a Republican concedes, but the final vote count makes them the winner, then the concession is void. If a Democrat concedes, it's binding not only for this election but also the next.

But seriously, why does anybody need to concede at all? The final vote count is the only thing that matters. They will tell you if you concede or not.


i'm fairly certain "conceding" became a thing when people decided they weren't going to make people stay up until 1am waiting for those last (yes, i'm using hypothetical numbers here) 3% of districts to report in, since the other 97% made it fairly obvious that one of the candidates was going to win...

on the other hand, there's roy moore... ;p
 
2018-11-08 03:51:34 PM  
I am not going to let myself believe that either Gillum's or Nelson's outcomes will get reversed.........but if it DOES happen....biggest freedom boner EVAH!!
 
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