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(CNN)   Duck boat captain unable to duck grand jury indictment   ( cnn.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Grand jury, duck boat, Wind, Indictment, duck boat sinking, Jury, Severe weather, Thunderstorm  
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3827 clicks; posted to Main » on 08 Nov 2018 at 5:05 PM (10 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2018-11-08 05:41:01 PM  
12 votes:

Ex-Texan: Not following safety procedures, using a "What are the odds"? approach to safety. I hope they find him guilty, assess the full penalties, and forbid him from operating boats of this type again, and hand the remainder of his debt to his descendants to be responsible for. There are serious penalties for trumping of this caliber.


Hand the remainder of his debt to his descendants?  You're screwed in the head if you think that's reasonable.
2018-11-08 05:39:35 PM  
8 votes:
GOOD. Just because that lake is smooth as glass 99% of the time doesn't mean you toss basic safety overboard.
2018-11-08 06:14:02 PM  
7 votes:

Dadburns: I think they had a couple of "Captains", who probably had some additional credentials for on the water and several drivers. The Captains stayed at the ramp and when the boats drove up took over for the water operation. I know they had several of the Duck Boats and using this method would let them keep them all operating the tour part with (probably lesser-payed) drivers and just use the Captains on the water.


Sounds likely. A USCG master's license is not a trivial thing to acquire (720 sea days and most have a 4-year degree), so you'd not want to waste one just for driving a glorified bus. Legally, the driver can stay at the controls - the captain is present and in charge, he doesn't have to be involved in operating the craft at all. Sounds sweet, but the flip side of that is that he's legally responsible for judgment calls. There's no directive anywhere saying "You can legally sail this craft under these specific conditions", it's the captain's responsibility to apply his knowledge and expertise, every single time.

I know at least one person with a 1600 tons USCG master's license who only sails as First Mate, just because she doesn't care for having that ultimate responsibility.
2018-11-08 05:18:19 PM  
6 votes:
Not following safety procedures, using a "What are the odds"? approach to safety. I hope they find him guilty, assess the full penalties, and forbid him from operating boats of this type again, and hand the remainder of his debt to his descendants to be responsible for. There are serious penalties for trumping of this caliber.
2018-11-08 07:45:53 PM  
3 votes:

Ex-Texan: Not following safety procedures, using a "What are the odds"? approach to safety. I hope they find him guilty, assess the full penalties, and forbid him from operating boats of this type again, and hand the remainder of his debt to his descendants to be responsible for. There are serious penalties for trumping of this caliber.


Christ fark, does everything have to be tied to Trump? Hate him if you want all you like, he is not my favorite either. But I swear, folks like you who got shorted a chicken mcnugget would blame it on trump. You are becoming a caricature. You sound like a mirror image of a freezer nut.

I stubbed my toe going to get the mail, Drumph!!!
2018-11-08 05:22:14 PM  
2 votes:

groppet: He should have just gone down with the ship, would have been easier.


He should be given some concrete shoes and thrown into seven foot deep water just off shore.
2018-11-08 10:47:30 PM  
1 vote:

jmr61: Hand debt to descendants? That's one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on here.


We already do it with student loans to a certain extent.
2018-11-08 07:55:16 PM  
1 vote:

TechCom: Ex-Texan: Not following safety procedures, using a "What are the odds"? approach to safety. I hope they find him guilty, assess the full penalties, and forbid him from operating boats of this type again, and hand the remainder of his debt to his descendants to be responsible for. There are serious penalties for trumping of this caliber.

Christ fark, does everything have to be tied to Trump? Hate him if you want all you like, he is not my favorite either. But I swear, folks like you who got shorted a chicken mcnugget would blame it on trump. You are becoming a caricature. You sound like a mirror image of a freezer nut.

I stubbed my toe going to get the mail, Drumph!!!


Calm down, Francis. He's not blaming trump. He's just using his name as a verb. Trumping: Mind boggling dangerous levels of stupid. Do you lose your mind every time someone uses the terms "postal" or "santorum"? English is a very fluid language, bro.
2018-11-08 07:17:21 PM  
1 vote:
I pilot a tour boat , i cancelled trips on 2 different days this season because of developing weather. One was a bust as the storm headed away from the area. The other hit hard, an hour deluge with a lot of electricity involved, i stuck around after i cancelled. Some passengers were irate but i told them to take a bit of your refund, buy a beer and hang around for a while and let's be glad we're dry and not potential lightning targets, and enjoy the show with me. They agreed with me wholeheartedly once the weather really got cookin'. Some returned for a later tour, the calm after a big storm is absolutely perfect for a tour.
35 years around here, i can read the weather just like a book. (Inland lake so state of california licensed, not coast guard jurisdiction)
2018-11-08 06:15:31 PM  
1 vote:
Did the duck tour in San Diego, San Francisco, and Seattle. It was a pretty fun way to see the cities. I don't know if I would try it in Branson motly because I can't imagine what would make me find myself in Branson.
2018-11-08 05:25:14 PM  
1 vote:
The article says this:
"In Branson, tour drivers maneuver them along city streets before handing off to a captain, who uses a ramp to enter the lake. The boat that capsized was carrying 31 passengers. Its driver died."
So what was the Captain's role in the incident? He wasn't at the wheel, so where was he?
2018-11-08 05:19:52 PM  
1 vote:
He should have just gone down with the ship, would have been easier.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2018-11-08 04:18:28 PM  
1 vote:
The violations are colloquially known as "seaman's manslaughter"

Sounds like slang for masturbation.
 
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