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(Redding Record Searchlight)   All of Paradise under mandatory evacuation order because of massive raging fire, currently covering 18,000 acres. Not a metaphor for 2018 (link updating)   ( redding.com) divider line
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2018-11-08 02:40:06 PM  
I've been to Paradise. But I've never been to me.
 
2018-11-08 02:51:26 PM  
They burned Paradise and they put up a parking lot.
 
2018-11-08 02:51:43 PM  
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2018-11-08 02:51:54 PM  
Paradise by the forest fire light,,,
 
2018-11-08 02:55:11 PM  
Noisex - Escape From Paradise (only audio)
Youtube a-5ER8gjkik
 
2018-11-08 02:56:53 PM  
Ready the marshmallows. In California, Camp Fire come to you

/what a country!
 
2018-11-08 02:59:40 PM  
Seems weird that a town named Paradise in California would be located in the scrub desert of NorCal and not somewhere near Malibu.  Guess it started out as a real estate scam to bring gullible pioneers westward.

/completely made up
//obviously
///three's the charm
 
2018-11-08 03:00:04 PM  
"Fire explodes in Butte County"
This is why you don't try to light farts.
 
2018-11-08 03:00:16 PM  
How much of a paradise can it be in Butte county? 

Sounds like they're having a burning sensation.

It wasn't until my 40's I realized that a burning butte needs Tucks.
 
2018-11-08 03:01:05 PM  

LewDux: [YouTube video: Noisex - Escape From Paradise (only audio)]


I haven't heard that name since 1998... didn't know Raoul was still making music.
 
2018-11-08 03:04:09 PM  
FTA:  Fire explodes from Butte County.   O_O

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2018-11-08 03:06:02 PM  

Flab: LewDux: [YouTube video: Noisex - Escape From Paradise (only audio)]

I haven't heard that name since 1998... didn't know Raoul was still making music.


Not according to Discogs
/had 1920.00 for 10-15 years, never tried other albums
 
2018-11-08 03:06:17 PM  

cowgirl toffee: FTA:  Fire explodes from Butte County.   O_O

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Dammit, Taco Bell...how many homes must be lost before you change your ways?!

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2018-11-08 03:07:55 PM  

emersonbiggins: Seems weird that a town named Paradise in California would be located in the scrub desert of NorCal and not somewhere near Malibu.


Everyone's idea of paradise is different.
 
2018-11-08 03:09:56 PM  
Butte College is evacuating, and everyone is also leaving the campus.
 
2018-11-08 03:10:39 PM  

guestguy: cowgirl toffee: FTA:  Fire explodes from Butte County.   O_O

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Dammit, Taco Bell...how many homes must be lost before you change your ways?!

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The fire...

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2018-11-08 03:13:56 PM  
They called it Paradise, I don't know why
You call some place Paradise, kiss it goodbye
 
2018-11-08 03:18:28 PM  
One of my employees has a family cabin in Paradise (inherited from grandparents). They've put a bunch of work into it since grandpa died summer of '17...and he hopes their insurance is paid up.
 
2018-11-08 03:22:13 PM  
For a second there I was afraid they were talking about the one in Nevada.

That might have put a crimp in my vacation plans for next month.
 
2018-11-08 03:24:39 PM  
Mmm hm hmm mm hm. Butte County. Hmm. Yeh. Mmm hm.

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2018-11-08 03:25:19 PM  
Who ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge?
 
2018-11-08 03:26:08 PM  
We're 150 miles to the east and the sky is totally red-black. It's nighttime at noon. We're talking entire towns burning and lives lost.
 
2018-11-08 03:28:02 PM  

wildcardjack: Who ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge?


Guarantee it wasn't anyone on Fark.
 
2018-11-08 03:29:49 PM  
Sturgill Simpson and John Prine Perform 'Paradise' (Mr. Peabody's Coal Train) | GRAMMYs
Youtube efa6zlDQ1kc
 
2018-11-08 03:31:06 PM  
I didn't know there was anything left to burn out there.
 
2018-11-08 03:31:50 PM  
 
2018-11-08 03:32:38 PM  
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2018-11-08 03:36:34 PM  
Also dipshiat disinformation bots/trolls are tweeting that the fire was started by terrorists at a kids' camp, but the fire is named for Camp Creek Road where it started. Nothing to do with an actual camp.
 
2018-11-08 03:40:42 PM  

ruta: fark :(

Bernie Deyo🔥@BDP473
As many as 200 civilians trapped by fire at Skyway and wagstaff, additional fire units being brought in to ram civilian vehicles out of the way and provide fire protection #CampFire #Breaking


"Ramming speed Ensign Crusher"
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2018-11-08 03:55:22 PM  

GaperKiller: emersonbiggins: Seems weird that a town named Paradise in California would be located in the scrub desert of NorCal and not somewhere near Malibu.

Everyone's idea of paradise is different.


No kidding. I was there a couple of months ago for a gig. Not what I envisioned as Paradise.
 
2018-11-08 03:58:01 PM  

Walker: ruta: fark :(

Bernie Deyo🔥@BDP473
As many as 200 civilians trapped by fire at Skyway and wagstaff, additional fire units being brought in to ram civilian vehicles out of the way and provide fire protection #CampFire #Breaking

"Ramming speed Ensign Crusher"
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2018-11-08 04:15:41 PM  

ruta: fark :(

Bernie Deyo🔥@BDP473
As many as 200 civilians trapped by fire at Skyway and wagstaff, additional fire units being brought in to ram civilian vehicles out of the way and provide fire protection #CampFire #Breaking


What a total nightmare.

If I lived in fire country I would build an Aussie style fire bunker and shelter in place.

Trying to flee in a car is a joke.
 
2018-11-08 04:27:17 PM  
My favourite stream comes from Paradise: Radioparadise is one of the first internet "radio stations." So good they are totally supported by listener contributions only, zero ads. The music is...every kind. In one set you'll hear Duke Ellington, Fleetwood Mac, something from eastern europe or India, and John Prine, yet it all fits together. Give 'em a listen, give 'em some money, and pray they (and their feed) survive.
Really, it's an awesome stream, check them out.
 
2018-11-08 04:27:21 PM  

emersonbiggins: Seems weird that a town named Paradise in California would be located in the scrub desert of NorCal and not somewhere near Malibu.  Guess it started out as a real estate scam to bring gullible pioneers westward.


You know what other nearby town catches fire a lot?

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For some reason, when it happens, residents don't seem to mind as much and article submissions go way up here.
 
2018-11-08 04:30:12 PM  
I lived there for a year in 1986. Hope everyone gets out safe. We were always nervous about fires there. Didn't help that people would burn the leaves on their property, so you'd smell smoke from somewhere.
 
2018-11-08 04:47:08 PM  
My wife's family lives there and a number of my friends. So far they all got out but this is the nightmare scenario.
 
2018-11-08 04:49:12 PM  
It's 15 miles away from me.  It is dark as night outside right now.  Picked up my daughter from school when I went out for groceries because they are closing streets all over town to accomdate the folks trying to get down the hill from Paradise.  As of now, it's 8000 acres and no containment.
 
2018-11-08 05:10:21 PM  
Can we get a mulligan on this week?
 
2018-11-08 05:11:38 PM  
Not my Paradise then.
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I was worried for a moment there.
 
2018-11-08 05:17:53 PM  
 
2018-11-08 05:31:56 PM  
When isn't California on fire?
 
2018-11-08 05:42:32 PM  
CA Fire Scanner
@CAFireScanner
8m8 minutes ago

#CampFire (Butte Co) - Now 18,000 acres per @CAL_FIRE. FF's have knocked down one of the structure fires @ Skyway & Clark Rd where the 150 civilians are sheltering, however fire continues to heavily impact the area on both of those roads.
 
2018-11-08 05:43:39 PM  
CAL FIRE
Verified account @CAL_FIRE
12m12 minutes ago

#CampFire [update] off Camp Creek Road and Pulga Road, Jarbo Gap off Highway 70 in the Feather River Canyon is now 18,000 acres. Evacuation orders established for Paradise, Magalia, Concow, Butte Creek Canyon and Butte Valley.
 
2018-11-08 05:44:46 PM  
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2018-11-08 05:56:13 PM  
I've already made myself feel physically ill scrolling through twitter, reading the desperate calls to help locate family members and rescue elderly people and pets. From what I've read, there are large areas with total traffic gridlock where the firefighters have ordered people out of their cars and into nearby cement buildings in a last-ditch effort to save as many lives as possible. It's farking terrifying. I know I can always donate money to help the survivors, but it's tough to know there's nothing I can do to help save lives today.
 
2018-11-08 06:06:17 PM  
Ive been to Paradise, lots and LOTS of trees.  Not really that many ways in or out, either.  Hope folks are ok, but damn.....got to be careful w/ fire, ppls...
 
2018-11-08 06:12:17 PM  
At least 27,000 people in Paradise have been ordered to flee.

Shiat.
 
2018-11-08 06:33:03 PM  
I'm sitting 150 miles away in San Rafael and the sun is orange, sky is very smokey.
 
2018-11-08 06:36:23 PM  

texdent: When isn't California on fire?


As Johnny Carson once wisely pointed out to David Letterman, sometimes the mudslides put out the wildfires.
 
2018-11-08 06:39:08 PM  

phishrace: texdent: When isn't California on fire?

As Johnny Carson once wisely pointed out to David Letterman, sometimes the mudslides put out the wildfires.


anyone hear anything new about the people trapped in town with the fire trucks out of gas? Last I heard even the tankers couldn't fly becuase of all the smoke..did they manage to get out safely?
 
2018-11-08 06:57:04 PM  

Kirablue42: phishrace: texdent: When isn't California on fire?

As Johnny Carson once wisely pointed out to David Letterman, sometimes the mudslides put out the wildfires.

anyone hear anything new about the people trapped in town with the fire trucks out of gas? Last I heard even the tankers couldn't fly becuase of all the smoke..did they manage to get out safely?


With all the confusion and twitter chatter it's hard to be certain who's still sheltering in place and who's been evacuated, how many or where. I think the group that was at the Walgreen's got evacuated and everyone's out of the hospital, but it's unclear what other groups there are or exactly where they are. There was one group I saw a tweet about that was in a "safe" place (surrounded by fire) and the implication was they were sheltering in place with fire fighters.

Meanwhile there are two new sizeable fires blowing up in Ventura County.
 
2018-11-08 07:01:15 PM  
Holy shiat the Hill Fire above Camarillo has blown up to 10,000 acres in two hours. Farking hell. Camarillo and UC Channel Islands being evacuated.
 
2018-11-08 07:09:27 PM  
The hell do we have here anyway?  Santa Ana winds?  En Nino?  What a nightmare this must be for the locals.
 
2018-11-08 07:13:51 PM  
As some one that had to deal with the Carr file let me give you all down in Paradise some sage advice.

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The fire can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.
 
2018-11-08 07:14:49 PM  
My friend evacuated, fears she lost everything.
 
2018-11-08 07:21:58 PM  
*Cal State Channel Islands not UC

info and updates from guys in fire helmets:

https://twitter.com/stuartpalley
https://twitter.com/BDP473
https://twitter.com/engineco16
 
2018-11-08 07:31:39 PM  
Another fire just started around the Thousand Oaks area, near where the bar shooting was yesterday. It's already grown to 10,000 acres and has shut down Highway 101 in the area.

https://www.10news.com/news/wildfire-​e​rupts-in-southern-california-near-thou​sand-oaks
 
2018-11-08 07:37:46 PM  

ruta: Kirablue42: phishrace: texdent: When isn't California on fire?

As Johnny Carson once wisely pointed out to David Letterman, sometimes the mudslides put out the wildfires.

anyone hear anything new about the people trapped in town with the fire trucks out of gas? Last I heard even the tankers couldn't fly becuase of all the smoke..did they manage to get out safely?

With all the confusion and twitter chatter it's hard to be certain who's still sheltering in place and who's been evacuated, how many or where. I think the group that was at the Walgreen's got evacuated and everyone's out of the hospital, but it's unclear what other groups there are or exactly where they are. There was one group I saw a tweet about that was in a "safe" place (surrounded by fire) and the implication was they were sheltering in place with fire fighters.

Meanwhile there are two new sizeable fires blowing up in Ventura County.


I'm seeing that. The ones I was referring to were the people by the Walgreens, I think, so good to know they got out. Now I am worried about the group of people by the equestrian center outside Camarillo..
 
2018-11-08 07:39:08 PM  
A real reason to love Fark. People really care about others. I have friends in Marin county and up near Santa Rosa. I hate to hear this stuff. The poor firefighters. Been a tough year. Donation going out as soon as I figure which station to send it to.
 
2018-11-08 07:39:51 PM  

ZAZ: I've been to Paradise. But I've never been to me.


I was going to say they could have prevented the fires by just paving it all...
 
2018-11-08 07:43:09 PM  
Point Mugu is under a voluntary evacuation order now.
 
2018-11-08 07:56:43 PM  

Barry McCockner: My friend evacuated, fears she lost everything.


Crap.
 
2018-11-08 08:02:44 PM  
Yikes. That's an area that's going to burn very badly. It's dry and the vegetation is a particularly flammable kind. Lots of smaller rural communities and little sort of hamlets with windy mountain roads. The linked article says a small hospital burned but another local source just says a single hospital building burned.
 
2018-11-08 08:05:21 PM  

spaceman375: My favourite stream comes from Paradise: Radioparadise is one of the first internet "radio stations." So good they are totally supported by listener contributions only, zero ads. The music is...every kind. In one set you'll hear Duke Ellington, Fleetwood Mac, something from eastern europe or India, and John Prine, yet it all fits together. Give 'em a listen, give 'em some money, and pray they (and their feed) survive.
Really, it's an awesome stream, check them out.


Very good. I have rather eclectic musical tastes so this is right up my alley.

I have banged on before about Fark Added Value and this is a great example; come into a thread about fire and find a cool radio station. And of course, whatever LewDux posts is bound to be awesome.

/Listening to Goldfrapp, not heard that song in years.
 
2018-11-08 08:06:59 PM  
Well, another person I know having to deal with this shiat. My brothers fiancee lost her dad this year, now her mom's house burned down. We live about 6 hours away so not much we can even do to help. Gonna take years of rain to limit the damage from these fires after all that drought. And that's probably not gonna happen.
 
2018-11-08 08:15:50 PM  

Bannanaslug: Gonna take years of rain to limit the damage from these fires after all that drought. And that's probably not gonna happen.


Rain isn't the problem. A century of fire suppression has left a lot of fuel for the fires.
 
2018-11-08 08:16:02 PM  

GrailOfThunder: Another fire just started around the Thousand Oaks area, near where the bar shooting was yesterday. It's already grown to 10,000 acres and has shut down Highway 101 in the area.

https://www.10news.com/news/wildfire-e​rupts-in-southern-california-near-thou​sand-oaks


Mission Oaks area:
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2018-11-08 08:30:43 PM  

WelldeadLink: Bannanaslug: Gonna take years of rain to limit the damage from these fires after all that drought. And that's probably not gonna happen.

Rain isn't the problem. A century of fire suppression has left a lot of fuel for the fires.


Hell several years of good rain seasons would increase the problems as that promotes more brush growth making things that much worse in a dry or drought season when it dies and is fuel for the next catastrophe.
 
2018-11-08 08:35:39 PM  

Stone Meadow: One of my employees has a family cabin in Paradise (inherited from grandparents). They've put a bunch of work into it since grandpa died summer of '17...and he hopes their insurance is paid up.


His place is actually on the lake shore in Magalia, a couple miles north of Paradise. Magalia has been evacuated, but houses were burning in town by 7:30 this morning, so he is not hopeful.
 
2018-11-08 08:44:51 PM  
Just go to the other Paradise, the one down the road from Intercourse.
 
2018-11-08 08:52:16 PM  
Got a friend who's from the area, she said her parents have already lost their home, and now the hospital they both work at has burned down.  And as she puts it they barely got out alive.
 
2018-11-08 09:00:35 PM  
When the first Spaniards arrived on the California coast, they reported good natural harbors and good land.

They also reported massive columns of smoke from the mountains, and astonishingly big earthquakes happening frequently.   This is the natural state of California.

When we set up camps and settled in this place, we chose to accept all that came with it.
 
2018-11-08 09:05:13 PM  

studebaker hoch: When the first Spaniards arrived on the California coast, they reported good natural harbors and good land.

They also reported massive columns of smoke from the mountains, and astonishingly big earthquakes happening frequently.   This is the natural state of California.

When we set up camps and settled in this place, we chose to accept all that came with it.


Yes we did, but that does not mean we can't feel and share the pain of our friends and family.
 
2018-11-08 09:10:45 PM  
Yeesh, Mother Nature. Could you have given us 24 hours to grieve?
 
2018-11-08 09:11:45 PM  

GaperKiller: emersonbiggins: Seems weird that a town named Paradise in California would be located in the scrub desert of NorCal and not somewhere near Malibu.

Everyone's idea of paradise is different.


I'm sorry, my son, but you're too late in asking.
Mr. Peabody's coal train has hauled it away.
 
2018-11-08 09:20:27 PM  
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"Whatcha talkin about Willis?"
 
2018-11-08 09:24:54 PM  

studebaker hoch: When the first Spaniards arrived on the California coast, they reported good natural harbors and good land.

They also reported massive columns of smoke from the mountains, and astonishingly big earthquakes happening frequently.   This is the natural state of California.

When we set up camps and settled in this place, we chose to accept all that came with it.


Tsunami stones of Japan gave warnings long ago.
How do you say " meh, those old people, what do they know?" In Japanese?
 
2018-11-08 09:37:04 PM  
 
2018-11-08 09:38:41 PM  

Stone Meadow: Facebook Camp Fire page.


I hope the fire keeps us informed of its status. I'm sure it will be Liked all night.
 
2018-11-08 09:40:17 PM  

Steakzilla: ZAZ: I've been to Paradise. But I've never been to me.

I was going to say they could have prevented the fires by just paving it all...


I see what you did there.
 
2018-11-08 09:42:11 PM  
Got 5 fire engines headed that way now. (5 hour drive)
 
2018-11-08 10:07:14 PM  
We keep hearing booms.  Reports are it's propane tanks exploding. We are packed and ready to go if the word comes.
 
2018-11-08 10:08:16 PM  
One of my company's customers was talking about it today. Has a friend that lives in Paradise but works in Chico. Said the smoke was unusually dark and streetlights came on as far away as Ukiah to the west and over the coast ranges. He didn't expect to have anything to go home to tonight.
 
2018-11-08 11:21:55 PM  
Holy crap.
Parts of farking Chico now are being evacuated.
That is bad.
 
2018-11-08 11:26:19 PM  
Looks like Paradise was largely wiped off the map.
 
2018-11-08 11:35:17 PM  

Hollie Maea: Looks like Paradise was largely wiped off the map.


yeah
hospital, high school, k-mart, safeway..basically the entire downtown is gone.

And then there is the Hill fire.
 
2018-11-08 11:59:00 PM  
It seems that the Atria seniors residence in Paradise was evacuated to Sacramento Marriott in Rancho Cordova. The seniors' residence was mentioned in earlier tweets as a location where people were stuck.
 
2018-11-09 12:00:22 AM  
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2018-11-09 12:05:44 AM  
It is MUCH larger than being reported
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no conspiracy, just too busy fighting the fire to give accurate reports
 
2018-11-09 12:15:05 AM  

mr lawson: It is MUCH larger than being reported
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no conspiracy, just too busy fighting the fire to give accurate reports


Good Lord.
 
2018-11-09 12:17:31 AM  

Coach McGirk: We keep hearing booms.  Reports are it's propane tanks exploding. We are packed and ready to go if the word comes.


If you find yourself debating whether or not you should evacuate, you should have left an hour ago.
 
2018-11-09 12:20:24 AM  
Starting to really look like Chico is next... Get your family and pets than get out now!
 
2018-11-09 12:24:58 AM  

JonBuck: mr lawson: It is MUCH larger than being reported
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no conspiracy, just too busy fighting the fire to give accurate reports

Good Lord.


Seconded.

If the fire really jumped highway 99, it is now at the very doorstep of one of the nation's largest methamphetamine production districts.
 
2018-11-09 12:26:35 AM  

studebaker hoch: JonBuck: mr lawson: It is MUCH larger than being reported
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no conspiracy, just too busy fighting the fire to give accurate reports

Good Lord.

Seconded.

If the fire really jumped highway 99, it is now at the very doorstep of one of the nation's largest methamphetamine production districts.


it has jumped 99
UPDATE: evacuation order for the area of Nelson Shippee Road. Evacuation warning for the area from Highway 99 E. bound to Highway 70 from Highway 162 N. to Highway 149
 
2018-11-09 12:27:33 AM  

Allen262: Starting to really look like Chico is next... Get your family and pets than get out now!


If the winds stay out of the northeast, like they do in a  Santa Ana, the fire may end up south of the city.
 
2018-11-09 12:28:00 AM  

Stone Meadow: studebaker hoch: When the first Spaniards arrived on the California coast, they reported good natural harbors and good land.

They also reported massive columns of smoke from the mountains, and astonishingly big earthquakes happening frequently.   This is the natural state of California.

When we set up camps and settled in this place, we chose to accept all that came with it.

Yes we did, but that does not mean we can't feel and share the pain of our friends and family.


Who's saying we can't?   I'm saying it's not unusual for this to happen.

These people basically live in a "fire alley" but I don't know if they all realize it.
 
2018-11-09 12:43:44 AM  
Listening to the scanner all day kinda feels like listening to the Blitzkrieg. The wehrmacht just blew through Belgium and is poised to march on Paris and there isn't alot the army can do about it. For those who don't know, Belgium is being played by Paradise, Chico is Paris, and I really don't want Butte College to be Dunkirk but...
 
2018-11-09 01:06:49 AM  
Ugh the number of tweets looking for elderly relatives who were in the Paradise area and haven't been heard from, many with mobility issues and living alone. Hopefully they're just being typical old people and don't have their cells turned on because "that's only for emergencies!"
 
2018-11-09 02:08:22 AM  
Air was fine in Mountain View around 20:00 PT
Very smoky with some ash in Half Moon Bay by 21:30 PT, is making my eyes water even inside the house (local time is 23:10 PT or so).

This is going to be a rough one. :-(
 
2018-11-09 02:12:16 AM  
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"The massive plume from the Camp Fire, burning in the Feather River Canyon and near Paradise, wafts over the Sacramento Valley as seen from Chico on Thursday morning. (David Little -- Enterprise-Record)"
https://www.chicoer.com/2018/11/08/hi​g​hway-70-being-shut-down-wildfire-in-fe​ather-river-canyon/
 
2018-11-09 02:13:29 AM  
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"Satellite image showing the smoke plume from the Camp Fire (gray) and the heat signature of the fire (red dots) on Thursday afternoon. Credit: NASA MODIS."
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2018-11-09 02:26:09 AM  

cowgirl toffee: wildcardjack: Who ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge?

Guarantee it wasn't anyone on Fark.

I LOL'd. Would LOL again.

The grimside: That was a beautiful area up there. Paradise is gone, and Chico is in the crosshairs. It's much worse tonight:
https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/cal​i​fornia/fires/article221401315.html
http://www.ktvn.com/story/39446732/ca​l​-fire-1000-acre-fire-spurs-evacuations​-in-butte-county1
 
2018-11-09 03:49:12 AM  

Allen262: Starting to really look like Chico is next... Get your family and pets than get out now!


Yup.

We were packed and ready to go.  I was in my backyard when I heard the bullhorn "THIS AREA IS UNDER EVACUATION. GET IN YOUR VEHICLE AND LEAVE IMMEDIATELY".
All we had to do was throw our crap in the car and get the cats in the carrier (the biggest task). We were out and on the road in 7 minutes.
We are in Willows now with family. Keeping an eye on the news.  So far, our house is still standing.
 
2018-11-09 03:55:25 AM  

Coach McGirk: Allen262: Starting to really look like Chico is next... Get your family and pets than get out now!

Yup.

We were packed and ready to go.  I was in my backyard when I heard the bullhorn "THIS AREA IS UNDER EVACUATION. GET IN YOUR VEHICLE AND LEAVE IMMEDIATELY".
All we had to do was throw our crap in the car and get the cats in the carrier (the biggest task). We were out and on the road in 7 minutes.
We are in Willows now with family. Keeping an eye on the news.  So far, our house is still standing.


Best of luck.
 
2018-11-09 03:57:06 AM  
All of my friends and family that live in Paradise have lost their homes.  But they are all alive and safe, as are we.  My daughter was completely losing her shiat but once we got to my aunt's house she was ok and finally fell asleep.  The cats are mildly irritated but adjusting ok.
We are safe and alive. All that other shiat can be replaced.
 
2018-11-09 04:03:17 AM  

Coach McGirk: Allen262: Starting to really look like Chico is next... Get your family and pets than get out now!

Yup.

We were packed and ready to go.  I was in my backyard when I heard the bullhorn "THIS AREA IS UNDER EVACUATION. GET IN YOUR VEHICLE AND LEAVE IMMEDIATELY".
All we had to do was throw our crap in the car and get the cats in the carrier (the biggest task). We were out and on the road in 7 minutes.
We are in Willows now with family. Keeping an eye on the news.  So far, our house is still standing.


Hope your house makes it!
 
2018-11-09 04:12:42 AM  

Allen262: Coach McGirk: Allen262: Starting to really look like Chico is next... Get your family and pets than get out now!

Yup.

We were packed and ready to go.  I was in my backyard when I heard the bullhorn "THIS AREA IS UNDER EVACUATION. GET IN YOUR VEHICLE AND LEAVE IMMEDIATELY".
All we had to do was throw our crap in the car and get the cats in the carrier (the biggest task). We were out and on the road in 7 minutes.
We are in Willows now with family. Keeping an eye on the news.  So far, our house is still standing.

Hope your house makes it!


Thank you.
But if it doesn't, it doesn't.  Out of our control at this point.  We got the cats and the birds out, we got family photos and heirlooms that can't be replaced.  We got to take a whole lot more than the folks in Paradise did, and we didn't have to drive through flames to get out of town.

It's just a structure.  But it's funny how you learn to prioritize your crap in this type of situation.

I learned we have too much shiat.
 
2018-11-09 05:36:18 AM  
My 84 year old great aunt lives in Paradise.  She got out ok and thankfully had her cell; found out she went down to one of her kid's home down in Sacramento.  Not sure what if anything she managed to take.

We were evacuated for 5 days due to the Carr Fire, so I'm fighting panic attacks. Just glad the smoke hasn't drifted north (yet).
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2018-11-09 08:44:04 AM  
A new unit of measure has been invented to report the growth rate of the fire: Costcos per minute. A Costco per minute is a little less than a millirhodeisland per hour.
 
2018-11-09 09:05:04 AM  

Alkony: My 84 year old great aunt lives in Paradise.  She got out ok and thankfully had her cell; found out she went down to one of her kid's home down in Sacramento.  Not sure what if anything she managed to take.

We were evacuated for 5 days due to the Carr Fire, so I'm fighting panic attacks. Just glad the smoke hasn't drifted north (yet).


Breathe. The best trick to panic attacks is your breathing. Your breathing will want to shallow out as you panic, because your body is trying to pump oxygen into your muscles so they are ready to do whatever you need them to do. As soon as you can notice this, start slowing your breathing. I'm so sorry you and everyone up there is going through this again. I'm close to the Borderline shooting, and there's a fire there too. Double tragedies all over the place. *hugs if you want 'em*

/I tell people I'm in recovery from PTSD
//the Kavanaugh hearing set me back a bit
 
2018-11-09 09:34:40 AM  
Before radical environmentalists prevented forest management departments from clearing dead trees and underbrush, this wasn't a problem.
 
2018-11-09 10:18:20 AM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Before radical environmentalists prevented forest management departments from clearing dead trees and underbrush, this wasn't a problem.


STFU Asshole. It always has to be politics for your trolling ass.
 
2018-11-09 10:56:12 AM  

tkil: Air was fine in Mountain View around 20:00 PT
Very smoky with some ash in Half Moon Bay by 21:30 PT, is making my eyes water even inside the house (local time is 23:10 PT or so).

This is going to be a rough one. :-(


There was ash from this fire falling in Half Moon Bay?  That has to be at least a hundred miles away.
 
2018-11-09 11:06:41 AM  

chachi88: STFU Asshole. It always has to be politics for your trolling ass


In this case, it is kind of true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History​_​of_wildfire_suppression_in_the_United_​States

/TN. Certified Prescribed Fire Manager
 
2018-11-09 11:10:45 AM  

studebaker hoch: tkil: Air was fine in Mountain View around 20:00 PT
Very smoky with some ash in Half Moon Bay by 21:30 PT, is making my eyes water even inside the house (local time is 23:10 PT or so).

This is going to be a rough one. :-(

There was ash from this fire falling in Half Moon Bay?  That has to be at least a hundred miles away.


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https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSBayArea​/​status/1060902454966083585

Interesting that the zones match my experience yesterday evening -- barely detectable in Mountain View, nasty up here.

Just checked Google Maps -- looks like 165mi straight distance, almost 200mi by road.
 
2018-11-09 11:49:13 AM  

nekom: The hell do we have here anyway?  Santa Ana winds?  En Nino?  What a nightmare this must be for the locals.


I've seen a bunch of places referring to them as "Diablo Winds" but I don't think I've ever heard that particular term before.

Huh. There we go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dia​blo_w​ind
"Diablo wind is a name that has been occasionally used for the hot, dry offshore wind from the northeast that typically occurs in the San Francisco Bay Area of Northern California, during the spring and fall. The same wind pattern also affects other parts of California's coastal ranges. The term first appeared shortly after the 1991 Oakland firestorm, perhaps to distinguish it from the comparable, and more familiar, hot dry wind in Southern California known as the Santa Ana winds. "
 
2018-11-09 12:02:52 PM  
From Brent 'Data' Spiner's Twitter


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And now Malibu is being told to evacuate
 
2018-11-09 12:07:18 PM  

Coach McGirk: All of my friends and family that live in Paradise have lost their homes.  But they are all alive and safe, as are we.  My daughter was completely losing her shiat but once we got to my aunt's house she was ok and finally fell asleep.  The cats are mildly irritated but adjusting ok.
We are safe and alive. All that other shiat can be replaced.


Glad to hear you and yours are safe. Please keep us updated

We need to do a FARK gofund me or something to help fellow farkers out from this farking mess :(
Thoughts?
 
2018-11-09 12:26:32 PM  

mr lawson: chachi88: STFU Asshole. It always has to be politics for your trolling ass

In this case, it is kind of true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_​of_wildfire_suppression_in_the_United_​States

/TN. Certified Prescribed Fire Manager


Good on you for amplifying a bullshiat Trumpian talking point designed to deflect climate change arguments. It's part of it, but it's not the reason that fires are getting worse. The Hill Fire is burning an area that burned in 1993 and 2013 so you'd think it'd be all nice and cleaned out, but this is not your Tennessee forest--the scrub grows back and burns again and prolonged drought has made available fuel drier and the fires bigger and hotter. 14 of California's 20 largest fires have burned since 2000. That's not all down to forest management. If things were "normal" it would be raining right now, not on fire.
 
2018-11-09 12:43:16 PM  
As a lifelong east-coaster, could someone please clarify for me whether or not anybody has time fo' dis?
 
2018-11-09 12:43:28 PM  
I'm in Clearlake.
The largest fire in state history burned here, for almost 2 months, this past summer. Also we've lost good portions of the country to fire in the last few years. The sky yesterday, with all the smoke from Paradise, triggered a lot of PTSD.
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2018-11-09 12:45:23 PM  
Longtime Farkette Lima Beans lives in Paradise. She and her son got out safely, but presumably lost everything.
 
2018-11-09 12:48:36 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Longtime Farkette Lima Beans lives in Paradise. She and her son got out safely, but presumably lost everything.


Awesome!
 
2018-11-09 01:17:59 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Longtime Farkette Lima Beans lives in Paradise. She and her son got out safely, but presumably lost everything.


Glad to hear they got out.
 
2018-11-09 02:42:45 PM  

Stone Meadow: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Longtime Farkette Lima Beans lives in Paradise. She and her son got out safely, but presumably lost everything.

Awesome!


Though not awesome they presumably lost everything.
 
2018-11-09 03:06:03 PM  
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There is no amount of horsepower that can make up for a lack of brains.
 
2018-11-09 04:32:08 PM  

studebaker hoch: [img.fark.net image 850x566]

There is no amount of horsepower that can make up for a lack of brains.


Yes, that's certainly possible. Or maybe if one's vehicle catches on fire and you are at risk of burning to death or are actually starting to burn to death and visibility is zero because of the burning you lose control of your car. At least 5 people did burn to death in their cars fleeing for their lives.
 
2018-11-09 05:26:37 PM  

LadySusan: studebaker hoch: [img.fark.net image 850x566]

There is no amount of horsepower that can make up for a lack of brains.

Yes, that's certainly possible. Or maybe if one's vehicle catches on fire and you are at risk of burning to death or are actually starting to burn to death and visibility is zero because of the burning you lose control of your car. At least 5 people did burn to death in their cars fleeing for their lives.


Captain Canyonero presumably among them.

He either remembered to close his door after he bailed out into the firestorm, or he's still in there.
 
2018-11-09 05:26:40 PM  

LadySusan: studebaker hoch: [img.fark.net image 850x566]

There is no amount of horsepower that can make up for a lack of brains.

Yes, that's certainly possible. Or maybe if one's vehicle catches on fire and you are at risk of burning to death or are actually starting to burn to death and visibility is zero because of the burning you lose control of your car. At least 5 people did burn to death in their cars fleeing for their lives.


LadySusan speaks the truth. My aunt had to flee during a fire in the San Diego area years ago and the ONLY reason she made it was the firetruck crawling along five feet in front of her, leading the caravan out of her neighborhood. Blinding smoke, all the landmarks look foreign due to burning... I judge nobody for losing track of where they are under those conditions.

Aunt moved out of California shortly after that event. No interest in tempting the fates a second time.
 
2018-11-09 05:41:09 PM  

studebaker hoch: LadySusan: studebaker hoch: [img.fark.net image 850x566]

There is no amount of horsepower that can make up for a lack of brains.

Yes, that's certainly possible. Or maybe if one's vehicle catches on fire and you are at risk of burning to death or are actually starting to burn to death and visibility is zero because of the burning you lose control of your car. At least 5 people did burn to death in their cars fleeing for their lives.

Captain Canyonero presumably among them.

He either remembered to close his door after he bailed out into the firestorm, or he's still in there.


Oh No!
 
2018-11-09 05:52:20 PM  

LadySusan: studebaker hoch: [img.fark.net image 850x566]

There is no amount of horsepower that can make up for a lack of brains.

Yes, that's certainly possible. Or maybe if one's vehicle catches on fire and you are at risk of burning to death or are actually starting to burn to death and visibility is zero because of the burning you lose control of your car. At least 5 people did burn to death in their cars fleeing for their lives.


Also fire fighters were pushing abandoned vehicles out of the way with trucks and a bulldozer so that truck might not have been driven into that position.
 
2018-11-09 06:44:06 PM  
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View from the office window this afternoon, looking southwest (in San Bruno).

There's a window treatment, but if anything it's a cool grey-blue -- the sun is really that pink.
 
2018-11-09 06:44:47 PM  
ruta:

Also fire fighters were pushing abandoned vehicles out of the way with trucks and a bulldozer so that truck might not have been driven into that position.

It looks to me like he drove out of the woods and fell onto the roadway.  The drivers door may actually be jammed closed, if you look closely the sheet metal is pushed in and the window frame is popped out.   The mirror on that side is also missing.   Maybe he was kind of feeling his way through the smoke and brushed up against something solid, mashing the door.

I would imagine that the escape from Paradise became an off-road death drive worthy of a Mad Max movie.  Everybody with their Super Giant Trucks (presumably rolling coal) yelling at people to get out of their way, hopelessly lost in the fire and smoke, panicking, bashing into cars that won't or can't move, horns blaring, engines revving, gas tanks exploding, people screaming as they burned alive.

It's stupid.   I'm really pissed off about what just happened.   The entire evacuation principle is stupid - because you are completely relying on an open road.   The first tree that falls, the first guy that panics and runs, leaving his car obstructing traffic, and everyone behind them is now trapped.

I would suggest a public education campaign that tells people that trying to escape a fire in their car is probably going to get them killed.  It is just too far to safety for people to expect to drive down a mountainous two-laner that is moderately dangerous on a sunny day, treacherous in storms, and death in a fire.

Instead, we should build fire shelters in fire country the way they build tornado shelters in tornado country. We are only just now finally convincing people not to flee tornadoes in their cars (or hide under bridges), and I think it's working.

A fire shelter is a relatively easy structure to build.   Masonry sides, a reinforced concrete roof, and hopefully buried at least partially in dirt.   A steel door with refractory insulation can serve as a class-A firewall and will hold back a fire indefinitely.   It just take the willingness to pre-plan, and spend some money and time.   Such shelters are already in use in Australia, where they face the worst fire conditions on Earth, and have learned these exact same painful lessons.

Fleeing in your car is suicide.

Small fire shelters can be built for individual homes in remote areas.  Central areas can have community shelters.  People evacuating a fire often have no idea where they are going other than "not here".   So they are driving headlong down the roads for a long time.   Taking up space, slowing everyone down.

A community fire shelter for a mountain town would give people a much shorter distance to flee, which unloads traffic from the roads early in the game.

A private fire shelter for a home would provide self-reliance, the luxury of being able to save property instead of having to choose which pets to leave behind.  You can shelter in place and be completely immune from a terrifying drive through hell thinking you are about to die the entire time.

It's such an easy and simple idea - yet I have never once heard any official statement in the United States advising people to build fire shelters.   Instead, they want evacuations - and this is the part that piss me off - so the police can be in total control of an area.  If people shelter in place, the police lose this control because now there are people on the "wrong" side of their roadblocks, and it freaks them out.  They start saying disingenuous things like "there are no emergency services in the evacuation zone and we can't guarantee your safety".

It's lies.  To maintain total control they try to evacuate entire towns at once.   Instead there should be a fire warning system, and that would be the signal to head for the shelters.  Get the family inside, shut the door, and ride out the firestorm in safety, without trying to drive through hell.

You can stock your shelter with supplies to last for however long you want.   You can protect property by moving (or even storing it) in the shelter ahead of time.   Your house is still going to burn down, and this will be traumatic, but instead of looking at a pile of ashes, you will have enough supplies to last for however long it takes to re-open the roads, and leave the area safely, in clean air, and with a calm mind.
 
2018-11-09 09:28:00 PM  

studebaker hoch: ruta:

Also fire fighters were pushing abandoned vehicles out of the way with trucks and a bulldozer so that truck might not have been driven into that position.

It looks to me like he drove out of the woods and fell onto the roadway.  The drivers door may actually be jammed closed, if you look closely the sheet metal is pushed in and the window frame is popped out.   The mirror on that side is also missing.   Maybe he was kind of feeling his way through the smoke and brushed up against something solid, mashing the door.

I would imagine that the escape from Paradise became an off-road death drive worthy of a Mad Max movie.  Everybody with their Super Giant Trucks (presumably rolling coal) yelling at people to get out of their way, hopelessly lost in the fire and smoke, panicking, bashing into cars that won't or can't move, horns blaring, engines revving, gas tanks exploding, people screaming as they burned alive.

It's stupid.   I'm really pissed off about what just happened.   The entire evacuation principle is stupid - because you are completely relying on an open road.   The first tree that falls, the first guy that panics and runs, leaving his car obstructing traffic, and everyone behind them is now trapped.

I would suggest a public education campaign that tells people that trying to escape a fire in their car is probably going to get them killed.  It is just too far to safety for people to expect to drive down a mountainous two-laner that is moderately dangerous on a sunny day, treacherous in storms, and death in a fire.

Instead, we should build fire shelters in fire country the way they build tornado shelters in tornado country. We are only just now finally convincing people not to flee tornadoes in their cars (or hide under bridges), and I think it's working.

A fire shelter is a relatively easy structure to build.   Masonry sides, a reinforced concrete roof, and hopefully buried at least partially in dirt.   A steel door with refractory insulation can se ...


This is a stunningly good idea, especially with the size and speed of these types of fires. With literally minutes to escape a shelter is a great idea. I think the focus has been on fuels reduction. There are big campaigns to create a defensible space around your house, the forests are being managed for fire (logging, controlled burns) but the fires in the past 3 years have moved so quickly, and the fuel loads are so great (no one is going to log mesquite or digger pine) that evacuation as you say is probably no longer viable for most.
 
2018-11-09 09:28:22 PM  
Oh, and there are now at least 9 victims.
 
2018-11-09 10:08:58 PM  
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2018-11-10 01:48:54 AM  

LadySusan: This is a stunningly good idea, especially with the size and speed of these types of fires. With literally minutes to escape a shelter is a great idea. I think the focus has been on fuels reduction. There are big campaigns to create a defensible space around your house, the forests are being managed for fire (logging, controlled burns) but the fires in the past 3 years have moved so quickly, and the fuel loads are so great (no one is going to log mesquite or digger pine) that evacuation as you say is probably no longer viable for most.


It would be really helpful if the government could offer tax incentives for building single-family shelters.  Most people can't afford to build a fireproof house, but might put in a backyard shelter if given a financial incentive.  Insurance companies could offer discounts to homes that had shelters, because it's cheaper than paying out life insurance.

At a community level, shelters could be built in parks and other open spaces, with wide areas kept clear of fuels.   It doesn't have to be one big shelter, it can be smaller ones placed strategically so that if everyone goes to the nearest shelter, the load is evenly distributed.  Existing public buildings that qualify as shelters can be signed as such, the same as we designated fallout shelters during the cold war.  It's possible these places already exist in some towns, they just need to be identified.

If we can build a border wall with Mexico, we can afford fire shelters for communities that need them.
 
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