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(Click On Detroit)   Another day, another mass shooting, this one a bar in California leaving 13 dead including the shooter and a cop. Instead of a clock, maybe a metronome is better?   ( clickondetroit.com) divider line
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2018-11-08 07:18:31 AM  
Yeah, it's a Detroit news station- most up to date I saw.

Terrible way to start today. Gun violence in this country is way out of hand.
 
2018-11-08 07:25:23 AM  
Deadlist mass shooting this week. So far.
 
2018-11-08 07:53:12 AM  
I woke up to the news calling this "The worst mass shooting in 12 days" and thought "Jesus Christ were not even measuring in months anymore. What the fark is going on and who the fark is going to do anything about it?
 
2018-11-08 08:08:10 AM  
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2018-11-08 08:13:41 AM  
"Hopes and prayers" is all we'll get from Washington.
 
2018-11-08 08:13:50 AM  
Gun fetishists want you to know that violent crime is at an all-time low.  Murder and non-negligent manslaughter might be up... but violent crime, all-time low!
 
2018-11-08 08:21:40 AM  
Sad for those that lost there lifes and their families.  But california is a gun free zone how could it happend in a gun free zone
 
2018-11-08 08:21:42 AM  
"Now is not the time to talk anout thoughts and prayers".
 
2018-11-08 08:21:53 AM  

Munden: Gun fetishists want you to know that violent crime is at an all-time low.  Murder and non-negligent manslaughter might be up... but violent crime, all-time low!


Here, let me show you two dozen charts!

/ That all stop at 2014 for some reason.
 
2018-11-08 08:23:21 AM  
In before the hurr Durr I thought guns were illegal in California derpers.
 
2018-11-08 08:23:41 AM  
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims.

There, I said it. I feel better. Back to work.
 
2018-11-08 08:24:54 AM  
This wouldn't happen if we didn't allow Americans into our country!
 
2018-11-08 08:25:01 AM  
One of the worst timelines. Enough is enough. The majority of Americans support gun control reform but our voices are coopted by a rigged political system.

Time to have our voices heard, and time to have our representation proportional.

It can't come soon enough. Especially for those we've already lost.
 
2018-11-08 08:25:20 AM  
Outlaw guns
3rd time this month a man with a knife opened stabbing in a crowded area
Outlaw knives
4th time this month a man with a board with nail in it board/nailed people in a crowded area
Outlaw board with nail
Kang and Kodos invade and enslaved humanity builds giant space laser.  Upside: I finally get to build giant space laser.  Downside:  I don't get to decide where to aim it.
 
2018-11-08 08:25:21 AM  

pueblonative: In before the hurr Durr I thought guns were illegal in California derpers.


Close but not quite. See rentamedic post above yours.
 
2018-11-08 08:25:38 AM  

AsparagusFTW: My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims.

There, I said it. I feel better. Back to work.


which thoughts, those thoughts, oh your a sick puppy.
 
2018-11-08 08:25:52 AM  
According to an article I was reading, the shooter was described as wearing black hoodie, black pants, black shirt, and a scarf to cover his face.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the cops are going to discover this guy is a Trumper, he's pissed about the elections, and decided to do something about it.
 
2018-11-08 08:26:36 AM  
notice how phrase "mass shooting" relates to alternative to right meaning about WMD's aka weapons of mass destruction if you look at it where word "mass" meaning is about targeting masses of people. Other possible alternatives is where "mass" is events held in churches on sundays by crossers. But that is very unobvious as it's unclear if it's crusade weapon in the hands of crossers or weapon targeting crossers. You know how jesuits have symbol of "three nails" in their stationary - instruments allegedly used for immobilizing jesus in prolonged uncomfortable position. Maybe it's about masses of people used for destruction of some sort of structures - rioting, etc.. In this case it's about fascism powered by fasces, networks, unions, communities, NGO's, etc..
 
2018-11-08 08:26:45 AM  

pueblonative: In before the hurr Durr I thought guns were illegal in California derpers.


Nope.  You missed it by 4 posts.
 
2018-11-08 08:27:43 AM  

Kit Fister: According to an article I was reading, the shooter was described as wearing black hoodie, black pants, black shirt, and a scarf to cover his face.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the cops are going to discover this guy is a Trumper, he's pissed about the elections, and decided to do something about it.


That, or another incel.  50/50.
 
2018-11-08 08:27:57 AM  

nekom: [img.fark.net image 500x529]


I really wish the onion had kept not payingp those for every single one of these.
 
2018-11-08 08:28:04 AM  

pueblonative: In before the hurr Durr I thought guns were illegal in California derpers.


Thanks for reminding me.  I still have a firearm in storage in Long Beach. One of those California compliant pieces of junk.  I need to sell it or have it destroyed.
 
2018-11-08 08:28:40 AM  
No patriot would refuse to give his only begotten son for his country, and its freedom.
 
2018-11-08 08:28:57 AM  
Tots and pears.
 
2018-11-08 08:29:24 AM  

Weng: nekom: [img.fark.net image 500x529]

I really wish the onion had kept not payingp those for every single one of these.


... Damn you autocorrect.

I really wish The Onion had kept posting those for every single one of these.
 
2018-11-08 08:31:16 AM  
If only those line dancers had been wearing six-shooters.
 
2018-11-08 08:31:17 AM  

DragonIV: Kit Fister: According to an article I was reading, the shooter was described as wearing black hoodie, black pants, black shirt, and a scarf to cover his face.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the cops are going to discover this guy is a Trumper, he's pissed about the elections, and decided to do something about it.

That, or another incel.  50/50.


My 5$ is on a guy who was pissed off for being denied entry, or having been thrown out of the bar, earlier in the evening.
 
2018-11-08 08:31:46 AM  
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/not even 9am yet, and I haz a sad :(
 
2018-11-08 08:32:39 AM  

Gubbo: Deadlist mass shooting this week. So far.


It's only Thursday.  Give it time...
 
2018-11-08 08:33:00 AM  

Ambivalence: I woke up to the news calling this "The worst mass shooting in 12 days" and thought "Jesus Christ were not even measuring in months anymore. What the fark is going on and who the fark is going to do anything about it?


/We are open to suggestions. The guns are out there, you cant get them back, the crazy is out there, you can't really stop that either if the person doesn't want help.  So your ideas?
 
2018-11-08 08:33:05 AM  
Boy that caravan musta gotten here faster than expected
 
2018-11-08 08:33:50 AM  
It's an Agro event calendar, list up the day and see how many were murdered, where and how
 
2018-11-08 08:34:22 AM  

rentamedic: Sad for those that lost there lifes and their families.  But california is a gun free zone how could it happend in a gun free zone


People who say California is gun-free are the worst kind of ignorant.
 
2018-11-08 08:34:41 AM  

Flab: My 5$ is on a guy who was pissed off for being denied entry, or having been thrown out of the bar, earlier in the evening


No, 5$ says its someone who couldn't get a girlfriend.
 
2018-11-08 08:34:43 AM  

Rapmaster2000: This wouldn't happen if we didn't allow Americans into our country!


Too late, the lane is infested with them and their comment culture
 
2018-11-08 08:35:13 AM  

Do you even grift bro: One of the worst timelines. Enough is enough. The majority of Americans support gun control reform but our voices are coopted by a rigged political system.

Time to have our voices heard, and time to have our representation proportional.

It can't come soon enough. Especially for those we've already lost.


I agree we need gun control reform. I've been saying it, and i'll keep saying it.

But we need more than this. We need, desperately, a major shift in society as a whole. Look at the violence stats, even removing gun-related stuff. The US is much more violent than other 1st world nations.  We have a toxic culture where violence is glorified, where abuse and toxic behavior is rampant and people are more concerned with self image and so on than doing much about it, especially in schools.  We have a toxic political culture which is literally devolving quickly into 1930s Germany and not helped at all by the rhetoric of Trump and the GOP.  We have a massive political divide in general, which has promoted an incredibly stark "us vs. them" atmosphere.

I would LOVE it if we were more like Canada. But to do that, it has to be more than just gun control. We need massive reforms that address the poverty problems, the lack of healthcare, the absolute shiat treatment of mental health problems and the absolute archaic and draconian justice system that abuses and institutionalizes people.

We need to not just get to a point where people can't hurt as many people, but to a point where people don't even want to hurt other people.
 
2018-11-08 08:35:29 AM  

DragonIV: Kit Fister: According to an article I was reading, the shooter was described as wearing black hoodie, black pants, black shirt, and a scarf to cover his face.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the cops are going to discover this guy is a Trumper, he's pissed about the elections, and decided to do something about it.

That, or another incel.  50/50.


Is there a difference at this point?
 
2018-11-08 08:35:43 AM  
Columbine was almost twenty years ago. I'll always remember when this wasn't normal.
 
2018-11-08 08:36:11 AM  

pueblonative: In before the hurr Durr I thought guns were illegal in California derpers.


In before we need to extend bans nationwide.

We can't stop people or drugs (or alcohol) from running the border, but surely guns would be different!
 
2018-11-08 08:36:35 AM  
Just confiscate the guns already. No buyback. You turn em in and if found after a certain date it's 25 years in prison and your first born.
 
2018-11-08 08:37:01 AM  

DragonIV: Kit Fister: According to an article I was reading, the shooter was described as wearing black hoodie, black pants, black shirt, and a scarf to cover his face.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the cops are going to discover this guy is a Trumper, he's pissed about the elections, and decided to do something about it.

That, or another incel.  50/50.


Why not both?
 
2018-11-08 08:37:02 AM  
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2018-11-08 08:38:20 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Outlaw guns
3rd time this month a man with a knife opened stabbing in a crowded area
Outlaw knives
4th time this month a man with a board with nail in it board/nailed people in a crowded area
Outlaw board with nail
Kang and Kodos invade and enslaved humanity builds giant space laser.  Upside: I finally get to build giant space laser.  Downside:  I don't get to decide where to aim it.


2/10
Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can figure out that knives aren't and never will be as good a weapon for mass killing as guns, much less range for starter. If you had wanted to try you should have said that without guns people would use more bombs or something
 
2018-11-08 08:39:34 AM  
From what i understand...said farker came in the door, shot the security guard, shot the girl manning the register, then tossed some smoke bombs to confuse people. Then started capping people using a handgun. The first two officers responding entered the building upon hearing shots, and the Sgt who was coming in first caught multiple rounds.  The officer behind him grabbed him and dragged him out of the line of fire.   Sadly, he died at the hospital. The shooter was found dead ..unknown if from his own gun (which im guessing as he was a cowardly coont) and 11 patrons dead.

Much respect to the officer who gave his life in a attempt to save others.

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2018-11-08 08:39:34 AM  

This text is now purple: pueblonative: In before the hurr Durr I thought guns were illegal in California derpers.

In before we need to extend bans nationwide.

We can't stop people or drugs (or alcohol) from running the border, but surely guns would be different!


How much alcohol running these days now that you can buy it almost everywhere*

We have restriction on who can purchase, and what they're allowed to do with alcohol and while we still have incidents they're way down compared to what we had in the is especially when you consider the increase in population

*Excluding idiotic dry counties
 
2018-11-08 08:40:57 AM  

Munden: Gun fetishists want you to know that violent crime is at an all-time low.  Murder and non-negligent manslaughter might be up... but violent crime, all-time low!


Murder is down more than other violent crimes are.

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2018-11-08 08:41:59 AM  
I'm telling you, overworked Amgen middle manager.
 
2018-11-08 08:42:02 AM  

Flab: pueblonative: In before the hurr Durr I thought guns were illegal in California derpers.

Nope.  You missed it by 4 posts.


Naturally I'll get roasted on this, but I think the point is that California has one of the strictest gun laws in the land, I think apart from NYC, and it has no effective area to implement more regs which would either be pointless or run afoul of the second amendment.

As a gun owner, and someone who used to live in SoCal, I get it - big population state, fair bit of crime, lots of crazy people, need regulations.  I think some of the regulations are okay, like say magazine capacity - they're sort of arguable in terms of effectiveness, but it's fine.  But other stuff like the tech 9 pistol being banned because it looks scary or disallowing a normal magazine release on supposed military style rifles are crafted by people who don't know anything about firearms but just ban for "reasons".  California would better spend its money on mental health issues and certain counties allowing it to be slightly easier to conceal carry.  I say this not as a big advocate of conceal carry - I don't - I don't trust myself as having the skill to carry a firearm in public - I don't want the responsibility.  But I think the option should be available with testing.  Just all my .02
 
2018-11-08 08:42:07 AM  
Holy Shiat. This is in my backyard. I just heard this coming in to work 10 minutes ago. Yeah, it's farking early in Thousand Oaks.
 
2018-11-08 08:43:59 AM  

Starkaryen: Just confiscate the guns already. No buyback. You turn em in and if found after a certain date it's 25 years in prison and your first born.


Wellll..that would work, except the criminals wouldn't turn theirs in, so you would end up with armed criminals, a unarmed population, and the only others with guns would be the cops. And they take time to get to you.  You would be fish in a barrel to criminals.  No defense. And they would know it.  So there is that.
 
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