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(USA Today)   Guy who drafted JaMarcus Russell and Koy Detemer, hated Jared Goff and said said Doug Pederson was the most unqualified head coach he had ever seen, offers his opinion on Mitchell Trubisky   ( bearswire.usatoday.com) divider line
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2018-11-07 03:47:32 PM  
What are you getting at her buddy? Stop beating around the bush and tell us what you really think.
 
2018-11-07 06:00:46 PM  
"You couldn't get me to buy Mitchell Trubisky if you had him on a discount rack at Filene's Basement"

Nobody under fifty, and not from Boston understands this reference.
 
2018-11-07 07:04:09 PM  
I'm sure those comments are going to go over well with Lombardi's podcast host who happens to be a North Carolina grad.
 
2018-11-07 10:43:19 PM  

sirrerun: "You couldn't get me to buy Mitchell Trubisky if you had him on a discount rack at Filene's Basement"

Nobody under fifty, and not from Boston understands this reference.


They have or had them in Chicago too, The local news would report on the gladiator like fights to the death every year when they had their big sale. I though it closed but I'm not sure and I don't care enough to find out.
 
2018-11-08 12:55:53 AM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: I'm sure those comments are going to go over well with Lombardi's podcast host who happens to be a North Carolina grad.


It annoys me that you have to subscribe to that one if you want regular updates from Mays and Clark's NFL podcast. Lombardi is absolutely useless and his co-host always sounds like he's two seconds away from snapping.
 
2018-11-08 01:00:17 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Straight Outta Wells Branch: I'm sure those comments are going to go over well with Lombardi's podcast host who happens to be a North Carolina grad.

It annoys me that you have to subscribe to that one if you want regular updates from Mays and Clark's NFL podcast. Lombardi is absolutely useless and his co-host always sounds like he's two seconds away from snapping.


Yeah, Lombardi's a blowhard. But as long as Simmons likes him, he'll stay. Anyway, I think it's a rule in sports media that you have to have someone who's always wrong. It's why Skip Bayless is still employed.
 
2018-11-08 02:44:33 AM  
What's his dark handle?
 
2018-11-08 05:54:07 AM  
Edgy!
 
2018-11-08 06:57:17 AM  
JaMarcus Russell was drafted because Al Davis saw him pick up a ball and throw it 86 yards in the air. He thought he was the second coming of Daryle Lamonica.
 
2018-11-08 07:02:55 AM  
I'm much more interested in the opinions of Farkers who scored 4 touchdowns in their high school championship game then I am the opinions of some loser with decades of NFL front office experience.
 
2018-11-08 07:24:37 AM  
I get that the Patriots aren't tough, but we almost won that game.

I get that Miami isn't tough, but Brock Osweiler owns the Bears for some reason.

I get that IF FULLER CATCHES THAT BALL WE WIN THAT GAME WHARRRRGARRBLE.

Trubisky isn't great, but he has a lot of great instincts. If we can fix the horrific footwork that's leading to all the overthrows, and he gets some experience, he could be great. Long way to go, sure, but I invite you to compare his stats with guys like Rogers, Brees, Brady and Payton Manning in their first two years.

If he stays the same, yes, yet another failed Bears QB. It is, after all, traditional for the Bears to have an epic defense and a questionable offense. So, really, this season is just getting back to old familiar territory.

If he improves? We shall see. But despite his flaws, I think he has potential. He's fast, he can run (and dodge!) and in quick plays, he's superb. He just needs to settle down on the longer plays, not check down to fast, and stop fixating on one receiver.
 
2018-11-08 08:16:18 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: I get that the Patriots aren't tough, but we almost won that game.

I get that Miami isn't tough, but Brock Osweiler owns the Bears for some reason.

I get that IF FULLER CATCHES THAT BALL WE WIN THAT GAME WHARRRRGARRBLE.

Trubisky isn't great, but he has a lot of great instincts. If we can fix the horrific footwork that's leading to all the overthrows, and he gets some experience, he could be great. Long way to go, sure, but I invite you to compare his stats with guys like Rogers, Brees, Brady and Payton Manning in their first two years.

If he stays the same, yes, yet another failed Bears QB. It is, after all, traditional for the Bears to have an epic defense and a questionable offense. So, really, this season is just getting back to old familiar territory.

If he improves? We shall see. But despite his flaws, I think he has potential. He's fast, he can run (and dodge!) and in quick plays, he's superb. He just needs to settle down on the longer plays, not check down to fast, and stop fixating on one receiver.


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2018-11-08 08:21:13 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Straight Outta Wells Branch: I'm sure those comments are going to go over well with Lombardi's podcast host who happens to be a North Carolina grad.

It annoys me that you have to subscribe to that one if you want regular updates from Mays and Clark's NFL podcast. Lombardi is absolutely useless and his co-host always sounds like he's two seconds away from snapping.


Yeah, every time I hear him bloviate on the Ringer NFL feed with his stories of Al Davis or Belicheck or whatever scouting/coaching mistake he's biatching about this week, my brain always goes "Weren't you fired by the Raiders and Browns? If you were remotely competent as a GM you wouldn't be doing a podcast, especially as much as the NFL loves its retreads."
 
2018-11-08 08:21:45 AM  
Holy run-on sentences, Batman!
 
2018-11-08 08:40:21 AM  

stir22: JaMarcus Russell was drafted because Al Davis saw him pick up a ball and throw it 86 yards in the air. He thought he was the second coming of Daryle Lamonica.


The JaMarcus Russell story from this weekend was my favorite and showed just how dumb Davis was for getting involved in the draft.  Anyone who watched college football that year could have told you Russell was going to be a bust but always count on the Raiders to do something stupid.
 
2018-11-08 08:41:29 AM  
The Bears are generally cursed when it comes to finding and grooming elite quarterbacks, arent they?
 
2018-11-08 08:49:22 AM  

mikaloyd: The Bears are generally cursed when it comes to finding and grooming elite quarterbacks, arent they?


Yep. When you consider that objectively, the best QB in Bears history is Jay farkin' Cutleryou almost feel sorry for them. Almost.
 
2018-11-08 09:02:21 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: but I invite you to compare his stats with guys like Rogers, Brees, Brady and Payton Manning in their first two years.


I agree with everything you said, but I'd be cautious comparing 2018 yardage to late 90s early 2000s yardage.  The league is so much more into spread offenses than it was back then.  Brees, in particular, spent his first several seasons playing Martyball.  There was only one 5000 yard passing season (Marino) before Brees did it in 2008, but there have been seven of them since then.  Mostly they've been Brees, but even Stafford got one.

This season, it's possible that Mahomes, Goff, Ryan, and Cousins all get there.  As dumping off to talented backs in wide-open schemes has become as popular as just running the ball, that's padded QB stats even more.  Eli has more yards than Brees this season basically by dumping off to Barkley and the Bears have definitely had some success in the same scheme with Cohen.

TL;DR - modern passing attacks make comparing today's QB stats with 20 year old QB stats problematic
 
2018-11-08 09:18:34 AM  
Lombardi also wrecked the old Browns AND the new Browns, so he's got that goin' for himself...
 
2018-11-08 09:49:10 AM  

mikaloyd: The Bears are generally cursed when it comes to finding and grooming elite quarterbacks, arent they?


They're better at finding punky QBs.
 
2018-11-08 09:55:41 AM  
Yeah, no one's getting rid of those Trubisky jerseys, if the number of Garciaparra and Fukudome jerseys still being worn at Wrigley is any indication. Hell, I saw a Damon Berryhill jersey there. This was like two years ago.
 
2018-11-08 10:27:11 AM  

Trainspotr: Yeah, no one's getting rid of those Trubisky jerseys, if the number of Garciaparra and Fukudome jerseys still being worn at Wrigley is any indication. Hell, I saw a Damon Berryhill jersey there. This was like two years ago.


Damon Berryhill.  Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.  I was more of a Rick Wrona fan, myself.
 
2018-11-08 10:28:29 AM  
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2018-11-08 10:41:42 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Straight Outta Wells Branch: I'm sure those comments are going to go over well with Lombardi's podcast host who happens to be a North Carolina grad.

It annoys me that you have to subscribe to that one if you want regular updates from Mays and Clark's NFL podcast. Lombardi is absolutely useless and his co-host always sounds like he's two seconds away from snapping.


THIS!  I like most of The Ringer's stuff, and I generally like Tate, but I cannot listen to Lombardi.  It's not just the fact that he's almost always wrong, his speech pattern and delivery are just terrible.
 
2018-11-08 11:38:36 AM  

stir22: JaMarcus Russell was drafted because Al Davis saw him pick up a ball and throw it 86 yards in the air. He thought he was the second coming of Daryle Lamonica.


Maybe Russell thought that football was a salad.
 
2018-11-08 11:50:58 AM  

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There's a lot of revisionist history in Eagles land.  There was widespread lack of confidence in Pederson as a coach before and after Lombardi made those comments.
 
2018-11-08 12:37:58 PM  
I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account:
Trubisky isn't great, but he has a lot of great instincts. If we can fix the horrific footwork that's leading to all the overthrows, and he gets some experience, he could be great. Long way to go, sure...

... But despite his flaws, I think he has potential. He's fast, he can run (and dodge!) and in quick plays, he's superb. He just needs to settle down on the longer plays, not check down to fast, and stop fixating on one receiver.


I agree, Jay Trubisky is going to put it together, and then it's all BEAR DOWN CHICAGO BEARS
 
2018-11-08 01:14:49 PM  

Magnus: '"You couldn't get me to buy Mitchell Trubisky if you had him on a discount rack at Filene's Basement," Lombardi said. "There's no chance. There's no chance. He can't throw the ball inbounds half the time." '

"But Trubisky has struggled with his accuracy despite completing 64.2 percent of his passes this year, up from 59 percent as a rookie. He's on pace to break the Bears' single-season records for passing yards and touchdown passes."

WHOA WHOA WHOA!   Hold the phone.  Is this article indicating Lombardi is speaking from the back end of his assless chaps?  Say it ain't so, Joe!  Say it ain't so.


Aren't chaps, by definition, assless? Aren't assed chaps also, well...
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2018-11-08 01:17:10 PM  

xaks: Magnus: '"You couldn't get me to buy Mitchell Trubisky if you had him on a discount rack at Filene's Basement," Lombardi said. "There's no chance. There's no chance. He can't throw the ball inbounds half the time." '

"But Trubisky has struggled with his accuracy despite completing 64.2 percent of his passes this year, up from 59 percent as a rookie. He's on pace to break the Bears' single-season records for passing yards and touchdown passes."

WHOA WHOA WHOA!   Hold the phone.  Is this article indicating Lombardi is speaking from the back end of his assless chaps?  Say it ain't so, Joe!  Say it ain't so.

Aren't chaps, by definition, assless? Aren't assed chaps also, well...
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Yes, but it's sooo much better to say "assless chaps" than just "chaps".  Evocative imagery and all that.
 
2018-11-08 01:34:46 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: There's a lot of revisionist history in Eagles land. There was widespread lack of confidence in Pederson as a coach before and after Lombardi made those comments.


There's a huge difference between "lack of confidence" and "less qualified to coach a team than anyone I've ever seen". I mean, even in Eagles history alone, that statement would put Doug behind Kotite. In 2017, when it was said, you had:

- The 49ers coming off of Jim Tomsula a couple of years ago
- Hue Jackson managing an entirety of 1 win
- Chuck Pagano and his "creative" play formations
- Jason Garret

I mean, had Lombardi simply stated that "Pederson is not good enough to lead the Eagles to playoff success", most of the Philly fans would have agreed with him. But no, he has to do and take hyperbole to the utmost level and make a statement that was blatantly, obviously ridiculous even well before the season started. (And then he several times tried to defend said statement during the season, which made it even more ridiculous.)
 
2018-11-08 02:49:03 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: I get that the Patriots aren't tough, but we almost won that game.

I get that Miami isn't tough, but Brock Osweiler owns the Bears for some reason.

I get that IF FULLER CATCHES THAT BALL WE WIN THAT GAME WHARRRRGARRBLE.

Trubisky isn't great, but he has a lot of great instincts. If we can fix the horrific footwork that's leading to all the overthrows, and he gets some experience, he could be great. Long way to go, sure, but I invite you to compare his stats with guys like Rogers, Brees, Brady and Payton Manning in their first two years.

If he stays the same, yes, yet another failed Bears QB. It is, after all, traditional for the Bears to have an epic defense and a questionable offense. So, really, this season is just getting back to old familiar territory.

If he improves? We shall see. But despite his flaws, I think he has potential. He's fast, he can run (and dodge!) and in quick plays, he's superb. He just needs to settle down on the longer plays, not check down to fast, and stop fixating on one receiver.


The upside I guess is that at least his bad throws are so bad that no one catches them. If throwing terrible passes that are incomplete is the worst thing he does Ill take it.

And don't get me started on Fuller. Yes he's played well the last few games and I hope it continues but I'm not ready to jump on the Fuller bandwagon just yet. I've watched him give up big plays at critical times way too many times.
 
2018-11-08 04:33:10 PM  

Cubs300: Trainspotr: Yeah, no one's getting rid of those Trubisky jerseys, if the number of Garciaparra and Fukudome jerseys still being worn at Wrigley is any indication. Hell, I saw a Damon Berryhill jersey there. This was like two years ago.

Damon Berryhill.  Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.  I was more of a Rick Wrona fan, myself.


Rick Wilkins was mine. What a player back then, too bad the strike happened and then he was traded for Luis Gonzalez and Scott Servais. Not a bad trade back then, but it was during the MacFail era. Oddly enough MacFail is the current president of baseball operations with the Phillies. Maybe he learned something from the years of failure with the Cubs and the O's.
 
2018-11-08 05:11:45 PM  

js34603: I'm much more interested in the opinions of Farkers who scored 4 touchdowns in their high school championship game then I am the opinions of some loser with decades of NFL front office experience.


He's consistently, objectively wrong in the thing he's paid to do though.
 
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