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2018-11-07 06:46:07 AM  
It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.
 
2018-11-07 06:52:53 AM  
So, this was enlightening. Not just the results, but the implications.

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2018-11-07 07:00:09 AM  

crustysandman: It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.


And when those people retire, they move to Florida.

Looking at you LePage.
 
2018-11-07 07:14:00 AM  
Except in FL?  I think NC and AL "Handmaid's Tale sounds great, let's try it out!" measures would like to have a word with you
 
2018-11-07 07:25:21 AM  

crustysandman: It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.


Florida has several problem voting blocs. The first is a massive amount of white rednecks, poor, and lower middle class who perfectly fit the stereotype of Trump supporters. They are low information voters, lack education beyond high school, and are heavily swayed by wedge issues. The second bloc is a large number of lifetime republicans from the Midwest who retire here. The third bloc is a bunch of 1%ers looking to rape the state's resources and the public for their own financial gain. Real estate developers are in this chunk, and they are surrounded by corrupt local and state government toadies eager for handouts and, with Republican government in place, there's no one to oversee them.

I've put a plan in place to leave the state in a couple of years after me and my family lived here on and off much of my lifetime. It really isn't the same place anymore, and with this new crop of greed and evil in place, it will just get worse.

One of our newly minted FL state senators is a guy named Gruters, a rat-faced Trump bootlicker who, during Obama's tenure, ran state and local GOP. He brought speakers to GOP conventions to whom he awarded the title,  "statesmen of the year." Trump was SOTY twice. Hannity was also a SOTY. And the new governor is even worse, not to mention gov. Voldemort is now headed to DC. All my county commissioners are tea party types. There really is no upside here. The red tide issue will be ignored. The voters who opted for no gulf drilling, well, that will probably be ignored just as the voters' choice for high speed rail was ignored a few years ago. It's time for me to go.
 
2018-11-07 07:27:05 AM  

pueblonative: Except in FL?  I think NC and AL "Handmaid's Tale sounds great, let's try it out!" measures would like to have a word with you


Nobody lives in AL though. Florida has a huge population, massive tourism destination etc.

I'd wager more tourists have only been to Florida than have been to 2 or more states.

/that might work with NY as well though
 
2018-11-07 08:37:45 AM  

dodecahedron: crustysandman: It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.

Florida has several problem voting blocs. The first is a massive amount of white rednecks, poor, and lower middle class who perfectly fit the stereotype of Trump supporters. They are low information voters, lack education beyond high school, and are heavily swayed by wedge issues. The second bloc is a large number of lifetime republicans from the Midwest who retire here. The third bloc is a bunch of 1%ers looking to rape the state's resources and the public for their own financial gain. Real estate developers are in this chunk, and they are surrounded by corrupt local and state government toadies eager for handouts and, with Republican government in place, there's no one to oversee them.


Don't forget the Russian-American electronic voting bloc that the pollsters just can't seem to capture in pre-election polls.
 
2018-11-07 08:38:36 AM  
It's Florida. I expect nothing less.
 
2018-11-07 08:38:52 AM  
Say what you will about DeSantis and Scott's stance on Medicare and Medicaid, at least in the near future they'll be killing a lot of old people.
 
2018-11-07 08:39:15 AM  
What a lot of people don't know about Florida, is that while Miami and Boca Ration are like politically like the rest of the East Coast. Once you get north and west of Palm Beach its suddenly like Alabama, the deep red south.
 
2018-11-07 08:40:16 AM  
Around here, we shouldn't be surprised. There's a reason they have their own Fark tag, and it's not because they have their shiat together.
 
2018-11-07 08:40:31 AM  

dodecahedron: crustysandman: It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.

Florida has several problem voting blocs. The first is a massive amount of white rednecks, poor, and lower middle class who perfectly fit the stereotype of Trump supporters. They are low information voters, lack education beyond high school, and are heavily swayed by wedge issues. The second bloc is a large number of lifetime republicans from the Midwest who retire here. The third bloc is a bunch of 1%ers looking to rape the state's resources and the public for their own financial gain. Real estate developers are in this chunk, and they are surrounded by corrupt local and state government toadies eager for handouts and, with Republican government in place, there's no one to oversee them.

I've put a plan in place to leave the state in a couple of years after me and my family lived here on and off much of my lifetime. It really isn't the same place anymore, and with this new crop of greed and evil in place, it will just get worse.

One of our newly minted FL state senators is a guy named Gruters, a rat-faced Trump bootlicker who, during Obama's tenure, ran state and local GOP. He brought speakers to GOP conventions to whom he awarded the title,  "statesmen of the year." Trump was SOTY twice. Hannity was also a SOTY. And the new governor is even worse, not to mention gov. Voldemort is now headed to DC. All my county commissioners are tea party types. There really is no upside here. The red tide issue will be ignored. The voters who opted for no gulf drilling, well, that will probably be ignored just as the voters' choice for high speed rail was ignored a few years ago. It's time for me to go.


Preach it brother.  The old angry white republican base has firmly planted the flag of "fark you, I got mine" in the State.  It is really depressing.
 
2018-11-07 08:41:15 AM  
One amazingly good thing Floridians did was restore the voting rights for non violent offenders. Thankfully those seeking to have their voting rights restored will no longer have to appear before the governors 3 person panel where they're grilled about whether they go to church or not before a decision is made to deny them the right to vote.

Felony Disenfranchisement: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Youtube NpPyLcQ2vdI
 
2018-11-07 08:41:28 AM  
Florida just got over a million new eligible voters that will lean heavily Dem, let us see what happens in 2020.
 
2018-11-07 08:42:54 AM  

dodecahedron: crustysandman: It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.

Florida has several problem voting blocs. The first is a massive amount of white rednecks, poor, and lower middle class who perfectly fit the stereotype of Trump supporters. They are low information voters, lack education beyond high school, and are heavily swayed by wedge issues. The second bloc is a large number of lifetime republicans from the Midwest who retire here. The third bloc is a bunch of 1%ers looking to rape the state's resources and the public for their own financial gain. Real estate developers are in this chunk, and they are surrounded by corrupt local and state government toadies eager for handouts and, with Republican government in place, there's no one to oversee them.

I've put a plan in place to leave the state in a couple of years after me and my family lived here on and off much of my lifetime. It really isn't the same place anymore, and with this new crop of greed and evil in place, it will just get worse.

One of our newly minted FL state senators is a guy named Gruters, a rat-faced Trump bootlicker who, during Obama's tenure, ran state and local GOP. He brought speakers to GOP conventions to whom he awarded the title,  "statesmen of the year." Trump was SOTY twice. Hannity was also a SOTY. And the new governor is even worse, not to mention gov. Voldemort is now headed to DC. All my county commissioners are tea party types. There really is no upside here. The red tide issue will be ignored. The voters who opted for no gulf drilling, well, that will probably be ignored just as the voters' choice for high speed rail was ignored a few years ago. It's time for me to go.


This.

I really hate snow, but I might have to move back to Massachusetts soon.

The crazies have turned Florida into a meth-induced ATM machine.
 
2018-11-07 08:42:59 AM  

darkeyes: Florida just got over a million new eligible voters that will lean heavily Dem, let us see what happens in 2020.


It's Florida. They'll find a way to screw it up again.
 
2018-11-07 08:43:23 AM  
Between the white trash and the snowbirds and the old people who still call black people "colored folk", Florida really hasn't got a chance.

The amazing thing is that Gillum lost by such a very tiny margin, which shows what getting the vote out can do.
 
2018-11-07 08:43:40 AM  

pueblonative: Except in FL?  I think NC and AL "Handmaid's Tale sounds great, let's try it out!" measures would like to have a word with you


Also, GA Governor/Secretary of State Kemp reminds us that if you really want to WIN, you should always try to be the guy in charge of who gets to actually vote.

If cheating isn't "uncivil," I don't know what is.
 
2018-11-07 08:44:33 AM  
Yeah - last night was hugely disappointing for me.
 
2018-11-07 08:45:45 AM  
From looking at the numbers it seems like the biggest issue was Jacksonville, where the turnout was utterly abysmal. I'm going to go ahead and blame the protoNazis for supporting the Racist-in-Chief and all his cronies, but some of the blame goes to the Dems here, who can't organize to save their lives.

Rick Scott has now held the two highest offices in this state, and people forget he basically came out of nowhere, bought his way into the Governor's mansion despite being responsible for the biggest Medicare fraud in US history, and then while Governor transparently grifted off of the utterly stupid "drug test the welfare people" laws he passed.

That the guy is a farking comic book villain and the Democrats still can't beat him is a rare example of how both sides are bad*.

*not the same, just bad in their own ways
 
2018-11-07 08:46:40 AM  

Gubbo: pueblonative: Except in FL?  I think NC and AL "Handmaid's Tale sounds great, let's try it out!" measures would like to have a word with you

Nobody lives in AL though. Florida has a huge population, massive tourism destination etc.

I'd wager more tourists have only been to Florida than have been to 2 or more states.

/that might work with NY as well though


It's funny, Florida is the only continental state I haven't been to. It, Alaska, and Hawaii are the only three states I haven't been to. (I haven't been to any of the territories.) I would absolutely go for spring training but that seems like a hike and a half for a few ballgames.
 
2018-11-07 08:47:08 AM  
"One", depending on the results from Georgia, might be incorrect.

There could be two states where sending out robocalls pretending to be your opponent talking in minstrel speak could win you an election.

And if I'm being honest, if a black person had been running for governor in South Carolina, it probably would have worked in three states.
 
2018-11-07 08:47:27 AM  
Gillum was the wrong choice. Of course I voted for him, but in the primary I voted for Phil Levine, the Miami mayor. Gillum was a black liberal democrat, Florida is not ready for that on the margins. And the margins are razor thin

If Levine was on the ticket we'd likely have a dem governor right now.
 
2018-11-07 08:47:33 AM  
With the way things turned out as far as Florida and who they elected to represent them, I still get the feeling that the new Amendment that was just overwhelmingly voted for (giving the franchise back to former felons) will never be enacted by the FL state legislature. I just can't see them being willing to aloow it to go forward, no matter what the citizens of Florida might want.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does go through, but I guess we'll see.
 
2018-11-07 08:48:25 AM  
Florida.   And a few other states.   And one district of Iowa.   But that district might as well be considered part of Nebraska (Kidding).

Near my true blue parents retirement home in Lakeland, is a gun shop called "Rapture Guns and Knives"

That should tell everyone all they need to know about a large chunk of Florida.
 
2018-11-07 08:49:48 AM  

dodecahedron: crustysandman: It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.

Florida has several problem voting blocs. The first is a massive amount of white rednecks, poor, and lower middle class who perfectly fit the stereotype of Trump supporters. They are low information voters, lack education beyond high school, and are heavily swayed by wedge issues. The second bloc is a large number of lifetime republicans from the Midwest who retire here. The third bloc is a bunch of 1%ers looking to rape the state's resources and the public for their own financial gain. Real estate developers are in this chunk, and they are surrounded by corrupt local and state government toadies eager for handouts and, with Republican government in place, there's no one to oversee them.

I've put a plan in place to leave the state in a couple of years after me and my family lived here on and off much of my lifetime. It really isn't the same place anymore, and with this new crop of greed and evil in place, it will just get worse.

One of our newly minted FL state senators is a guy named Gruters, a rat-faced Trump bootlicker who, during Obama's tenure, ran state and local GOP. He brought speakers to GOP conventions to whom he awarded the title,  "statesmen of the year." Trump was SOTY twice. Hannity was also a SOTY. And the new governor is even worse, not to mention gov. Voldemort is now headed to DC. All my county commissioners are tea party types. There really is no upside here. The red tide issue will be ignored. The voters who opted for no gulf drilling, well, that will probably be ignored just as the voters' choice for high speed rail was ignored a few years ago. It's time for me to go.


My god are you my neighbor? You just described Hernando county to a tee.
 
2018-11-07 08:50:11 AM  

Number 216: One amazingly good thing Floridians did was restore the voting rights for non violent offenders. Thankfully those seeking to have their voting rights restored will no longer have to appear before the governors 3 person panel where they're grilled about whether they go to church or not before a decision is made to deny them the right to vote.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/NpPyLcQ2​vdI]


And where that panel only meets four days a year and restoring voting rights to two dozen people on one of those days would be considered an exceptionally high number.

How many votes did Gillum lose by anyway?
 
2018-11-07 08:50:15 AM  

Nuc_E: Florida.   And a few other states.   And one district of Iowa.   But that district might as well be considered part of Nebraska (Kidding).

Near my true blue parents retirement home in Lakeland, is a gun shop called "Rapture Guns and Knives"

That should tell everyone all they need to know about a large chunk of Florida.


But... but... Dinosaur World?
 
2018-11-07 08:50:45 AM  
That's OK.  This is a self correcting problem.  Florida votes Republican, Republicans ignore reversing climate change, climate changes, Florida floods, problem solved.
 
2018-11-07 08:51:02 AM  
Now do one for Ohio.
 
2018-11-07 08:51:10 AM  

fatalvenom: dodecahedron: crustysandman: It'll take a while until they actually change. I say this because a major bunch of the old farks who still believe that "old white men are the only way " are registered to vote in Florida.

Florida has several problem voting blocs. The first is a massive amount of white rednecks, poor, and lower middle class who perfectly fit the stereotype of Trump supporters. They are low information voters, lack education beyond high school, and are heavily swayed by wedge issues. The second bloc is a large number of lifetime republicans from the Midwest who retire here. The third bloc is a bunch of 1%ers looking to rape the state's resources and the public for their own financial gain. Real estate developers are in this chunk, and they are surrounded by corrupt local and state government toadies eager for handouts and, with Republican government in place, there's no one to oversee them.

I've put a plan in place to leave the state in a couple of years after me and my family lived here on and off much of my lifetime. It really isn't the same place anymore, and with this new crop of greed and evil in place, it will just get worse.

One of our newly minted FL state senators is a guy named Gruters, a rat-faced Trump bootlicker who, during Obama's tenure, ran state and local GOP. He brought speakers to GOP conventions to whom he awarded the title,  "statesmen of the year." Trump was SOTY twice. Hannity was also a SOTY. And the new governor is even worse, not to mention gov. Voldemort is now headed to DC. All my county commissioners are tea party types. There really is no upside here. The red tide issue will be ignored. The voters who opted for no gulf drilling, well, that will probably be ignored just as the voters' choice for high speed rail was ignored a few years ago. It's time for me to go.

This.

I really hate snow, but I might have to move back to Massachusetts soon.

The crazies have turned Florida into a meth-induced ATM machine.


And when you say "ATM machine" you're not being redundant.
 
2018-11-07 08:52:43 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: With the way things turned out as far as Florida and who they elected to represent them, I still get the feeling that the new Amendment that was just overwhelmingly voted for (giving the franchise back to former felons) will never be enacted by the FL state legislature. I just can't see them being willing to aloow it to go forward, no matter what the citizens of Florida might want.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does go through, but I guess we'll see.


What's the procedure for that?  Is it one of those things where when it passes on the ballot it automatically becomes law or it is more of a Brexit opinion poll type deal that the legislature and new governor can choose to ignore if they want?
 
2018-11-07 08:53:23 AM  
These races were close.  Not everyone in Florida is crazy.  Just republicans
 
2018-11-07 08:54:31 AM  

ginandbacon: Gubbo: pueblonative: Except in FL?  I think NC and AL "Handmaid's Tale sounds great, let's try it out!" measures would like to have a word with you

Nobody lives in AL though. Florida has a huge population, massive tourism destination etc.

I'd wager more tourists have only been to Florida than have been to 2 or more states.

/that might work with NY as well though

It's funny, Florida is the only continental state I haven't been to. It, Alaska, and Hawaii are the only three states I haven't been to. (I haven't been to any of the territories.) I would absolutely go for spring training but that seems like a hike and a half for a few ballgames.


If we count places I've been to (not layovers or driving through), its Florida, New York, Nevada and PA (don't wanna try spell that).
 
2018-11-07 08:54:57 AM  

Optimus Primate: Gillum was the wrong choice. Of course I voted for him, but in the primary I voted for Phil Levine, the Miami mayor. Gillum was a black liberal democrat, Florida is not ready for that on the margins. And the margins are razor thin

If Levine was on the ticket we'd likely have a dem governor right now.


You have no way of knowing that.
 
2018-11-07 08:57:14 AM  
How'd did it go in Broward county? I can't believe Gillum conceded last night with a 1% or less apparent margin.  I would have waited until at least today and maybe challenge any shenanigans.
 
2018-11-07 08:57:22 AM  

Number 216: One amazingly good thing Floridians did was restore the voting rights for non violent offenders. Thankfully those seeking to have their voting rights restored will no longer have to appear before the governors 3 person panel where they're grilled about whether they go to church or not before a decision is made to deny them the right to vote.

[YouTube video: Felony Disenfranchisement: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)]


And I believe I read estimates that it restores voting rights to about a million residents.

I live in Broward...but I hate venturing north or west for the many reasons laid out upthread.

Charlotte count is STILL dealing with Red Tide destruction...and the voted FOR the guy who gave the green light to turn this seasonal issue a thermonuclear nightmare.  You will NEVER get through to people who are actually living the nightmare that is GOP policy, yet bend over and beg for 'Thank you sir, may i  have another?'
 
2018-11-07 08:58:11 AM  
Forget it, Jake. It's Florida.

/let sea level rise put an end to that miserable state
 
2018-11-07 08:59:51 AM  

Ecobuckeye: Now do one for Ohio.


Amen... bunch of farking idiots
 
2018-11-07 09:00:19 AM  
dodecahedron:

They are low information voters

I've been told many times since 2016 that using "low information voter" was incredibly racist and is in no way an accurate description the electorate.

Are you telling me those people were lying to me?
 
2018-11-07 09:00:49 AM  

darkeyes: Florida just got over a million new eligible voters that will lean heavily Dem, let us see what happens in 2020.


Right, I'm sure Governor DeSantis will make restoring their voting rights easy-peasy
 
2018-11-07 09:03:14 AM  

keldaria: Ecobuckeye: Now do one for Ohio.

Amen... bunch of farking idiots


Faber is from my home district. I am very confident he will lead redistricting to solidly ensure Ohio stays red for a long time.He's a bigger piece of shiat than Kasich, and that's saying a lot.
 
2018-11-07 09:05:16 AM  

Karac: "One", depending on the results from Georgia, might be incorrect.

There could be two states where sending out robocalls pretending to be your opponent talking in minstrel speak could win you an election.

And if I'm being honest, if a black person had been running for governor in South Carolina, it probably would have worked in three states.


That, in and of itself, didn't win the election for them. All that did was to give a bunch of racists some wank material on the way to the polls. If you got convinced to vote because of some racist caller doing a bad minstrel show impersonation, you were already inclined to vote that way in the first place.
 
2018-11-07 09:06:31 AM  

Optimus Primate: Gillum was the wrong choice. Of course I voted for him, but in the primary I voted for Phil Levine, the Miami mayor. Gillum was a black liberal democrat, Florida is not ready for that on the margins. And the margins are razor thin

If Levine was on the ticket we'd likely have a dem governor right now.


I too voted for Levine in the primary.  Wife for Graham.  Probably either of them would have made a better run.  We both voted for Gillum.  Republican attack ads kept beating the drum - "Gillum is under an FBI investigation".  I'm thinking wait, Trump is under an FBI investigation.  So Gillum is guilty and Trump is somehow the "savior"?  Hypocrite asshats.
 
2018-11-07 09:06:55 AM  

UncleDirtNap: That's OK.  This is a self correcting problem.  Florida votes Republican, Republicans ignore reversing climate change, climate changes, Florida floods, problem solved.


Just like most floods, that just spreads shiat everywhere.
 
2018-11-07 09:07:06 AM  

Karac: Number 216: One amazingly good thing Floridians did was restore the voting rights for non violent offenders. Thankfully those seeking to have their voting rights restored will no longer have to appear before the governors 3 person panel where they're grilled about whether they go to church or not before a decision is made to deny them the right to vote.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/NpPyLcQ2​vdI]

And where that panel only meets four days a year and restoring voting rights to two dozen people on one of those days would be considered an exceptionally high number.

How many votes did Gillum lose by anyway?


Something like 35k ... No, wait, that was Rick Scott / Bill Nelson

Gillum lost by 55k
 
2018-11-07 09:12:27 AM  

Karac: AurizenDarkstar: With the way things turned out as far as Florida and who they elected to represent them, I still get the feeling that the new Amendment that was just overwhelmingly voted for (giving the franchise back to former felons) will never be enacted by the FL state legislature. I just can't see them being willing to aloow it to go forward, no matter what the citizens of Florida might want.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does go through, but I guess we'll see.

What's the procedure for that?  Is it one of those things where when it passes on the ballot it automatically becomes law or it is more of a Brexit opinion poll type deal that the legislature and new governor can choose to ignore if they want?


I could be wrong, but it takes the state legislature to actually enact any new amendments that are agreed to by the citizens.  If the legislature doesn't want to enact the amendment, I'm pretty sure it's well within their purview to just let it sit and not add it to the state Constitution.
 
2018-11-07 09:13:12 AM  
I'm kind of getting sick of hearing about Florida being this game changer and a battleground state in elections. It's not purple, it red. Meanwhile, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin all voted for Democratic governors and districts all across those states flipped blue. Iowa is sending three Democrats to the House!

I told my husband that maybe we just need to wait until all the old people in Florida die for the state to turn blue. He reminded me that when the old people in Florida die, they're just replaced by new old people moving there. So I give up. Florida won't exist in another 20 years anyway.
 
2018-11-07 09:14:45 AM  

Gubbo: ginandbacon: Gubbo: pueblonative: Except in FL?  I think NC and AL "Handmaid's Tale sounds great, let's try it out!" measures would like to have a word with you

Nobody lives in AL though. Florida has a huge population, massive tourism destination etc.

I'd wager more tourists have only been to Florida than have been to 2 or more states.

/that might work with NY as well though

It's funny, Florida is the only continental state I haven't been to. It, Alaska, and Hawaii are the only three states I haven't been to. (I haven't been to any of the territories.) I would absolutely go for spring training but that seems like a hike and a half for a few ballgames.

If we count places I've been to (not layovers or driving through), its Florida, New York, Nevada and PA (don't wanna try spell that).


LOL Penn (named after William Penn, the Quaker founder of Pennsylvania--I went to a Quaker school so Fox and Penn were icons of my youth) and sylvania for wooded. (Sylvan meaning wooded.) I have no helpful mnemonic for Massachusetts. That's just pure farkery. I've either stayed in or lived in every other continental state and district. Lots of moving and lots of road trips. Florida always seemed like too much of a detour on a road trip or devoid of a good reason to go there. Not that there aren't things I would love to see there and the food! OMG! But you kind of have to go out of your way to get there and the northern part isn't really the part you would most want to go to. I've no family or close friends who live there...so...never made it. But like I said, I would go to spring training in a heartbeat.
 
2018-11-07 09:16:24 AM  
The Panhandle carried DeSantis, meaning rednecks and military (active and retirees).
 
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