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(BBC-US)   Ryanair fires flight crew for sleeping on airport floor, says they should have just stood for 5 hours until the lounge opened   ( bbc.com) divider line
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2018-11-07 04:52:16 PM  
Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.
 
2018-11-07 06:26:56 PM  

doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.


Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.
 
2018-11-07 06:31:22 PM  
unless this story is about alchemy of lawfare for making strange "precedent" probably "crew" did something else to deserve non kinetic fires. You know maybe they were allocated money for hotel, but blew that money on booze and narcotics. Maybe they were roaming the area wasted.
 
2018-11-07 06:34:35 PM  

Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.


Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.
 
2018-11-07 06:35:08 PM  
the photo led to media reports that damaged the company's reputation

Even more than it already is?
 
2018-11-07 06:39:32 PM  

trumpai: unless this story is about alchemy of lawfare for making strange "precedent" probably "crew" did something else to deserve non kinetic fires. You know maybe they were allocated money for hotel, but blew that money on booze and narcotics. Maybe they were roaming the area wasted.


Maybe you're just making shiat up.  Maybe.
 
2018-11-07 06:46:24 PM  

puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.


Someone else in that airport will come forward with what happened pretty quickly
 
2018-11-07 06:47:49 PM  

puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.


By which I mean, whatever the truth is, not that the flight crew is lying. I'd believe them over Ryanair without any other evidence than what we have here.
 
2018-11-07 06:48:45 PM  
You would think there was a light switch in the room, you know to turn out the lights.
 
2018-11-07 06:49:23 PM  

Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.


It may get you Snickers, though.
 
2018-11-07 06:51:39 PM  
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They were fired because they were all sleeping together.
 
2018-11-07 06:53:52 PM  

puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.


Except it was, according to video proof.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4DK​n​gTA9E
 
2018-11-07 06:55:07 PM  
Here's the video of the crew faking the photo that got them fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4DK​n​gTA9E
 
2018-11-07 06:56:07 PM  
looks staged to me.. i mean really..  there is enough open space they dont have to be ALL TOGETHER like that
 
2018-11-07 06:58:00 PM  

puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.


The security cam doesn't lie. You can clearly see them arranging the shoot. They aren't asleep. They are sitting around chatting, then set up the photo, take it, then go back to chatting.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/​1​052559295718539264
 
2018-11-07 06:58:13 PM  

Maynotlast: Here's the video of the crew faking the photo that got them fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4DKn​gTA9E


if fake news reporting news that they are fake - is it still fake news or two negatives make a positive?
 
2018-11-07 06:58:44 PM  

Maynotlast: Here's the video of the crew faking the photo that got them fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4DKn​gTA9E


Okay, that's pretty damning. They might have gotten away with sleeping on the floor....if only they hadn't left a dark area to try to sleep in a bright area.
 
2018-11-07 07:00:23 PM  
However, it is also true that damage to Ryanairs reputation is nominal at best.
 
2018-11-07 07:13:37 PM  
You've got to sink pretty low to be a RyanAir apologist.
 
2018-11-07 07:16:28 PM  

trumpai: unless this story is about alchemy of lawfare for making strange "precedent" probably "crew" did something else to deserve non kinetic fires. You know maybe they were allocated money for hotel, but blew that money on booze and narcotics. Maybe they were roaming the area wasted.


Crews never pay actual money to hotels, it's all direct bill.
 
2018-11-07 07:22:39 PM  
Fake stupid fauxrage de jour.
 
2018-11-07 07:23:36 PM  

LessO2: trumpai: unless this story is about alchemy of lawfare for making strange "precedent" probably "crew" did something else to deserve non kinetic fires. You know maybe they were allocated money for hotel, but blew that money on booze and narcotics. Maybe they were roaming the area wasted.

Crews never pay actual money to hotels, it's all direct bill.


it's not about that. at this point it's obvious that any such "crews" are military contractors doesn't matter if they service silk roads in the air, seaorg vessels above or below water, planks with rails, spotting training days, etc not to mention those weather underground boring companies. So it's not so much "direct bill" - it's the tales about currency from the tar budget crypts.
 
2018-11-07 07:27:55 PM  

UNC_Samurai: You've got to sink pretty low to be a RyanAir apologist.


In this instance RyanAir wasn't the miscreant.
 
2018-11-07 07:34:34 PM  

Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.


You are correct. Although Ryannair management can shiatcan their business all by themselves
 
2018-11-07 07:39:37 PM  
fake news!!!
 
2018-11-07 07:42:22 PM  
The video is pretty damning if the picture wasn't obvious. Why were they all basicslly sleeping close like a couple with none even being stretched out? But I also do think Ryanair is responsible as well. How many seats did you see in that room? Not enough to accommodate everyone there. Their option was to basicslly stand, sit on the floor, or sleep on the floor from 1:30 am to 6 am. Assuming Ryanair is being honest about them having access to the VIP lounge at 6 am. So technically Ryanair may not be lying. No one slept on the floor as the floor would suck to sleep on at like 4 am unsure of how long they'd be there. But the staff were likely upset by the conditions they were given and took this picture to show the only option they believed they had at that moment in time if they wanted to actually sleep.
 
2018-11-07 07:45:40 PM  

KatanaD: looks staged to me.. i mean really..  there is enough open space they dont have to be ALL TOGETHER like that


they do have to sleep that close if they all want to be in frame

really surprised this wasn't shot as a selfie or whatever a boomerang is
 
2018-11-07 07:50:27 PM  
I once worked at a commuter airline where a couple of pilots were fired after being on TV and telling the reporter they made so little they got food stamps. The owner was pissed, figured they were malcontents trying to make the company look bad, and fired them.

Said pilots later came in, showed the CEO their food stamps, and got their jobs back. No union then so I don't' know if lawyers were involved but the CEO was a straight shooter, if hard assed about things.
 
2018-11-07 07:55:05 PM  

Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.


Except they didn't fake the scene. It was confirmed they spent five hours like that before being allowed into a VIP lounge.
 
2018-11-07 07:59:32 PM  

Maynotlast: puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.

Except it was, according to video proof.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4DKn​gTA9E


Except it wasn't. Sure, they posed for the camera, but look at the footage. Do you see anywhere for them to sit down? Short answer? No.
 
2018-11-07 08:03:27 PM  

trumpai: unless this story is about alchemy of lawfare for making strange "precedent" probably "crew" did something else to deserve non kinetic fires. You know maybe they were allocated money for hotel, but blew that money on booze and narcotics. Maybe they were roaming the area wasted.


I think you might be having a stroke
 
2018-11-07 08:10:59 PM  

Alien Robot: puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.

The security cam doesn't lie. You can clearly see them arranging the shoot. They aren't asleep. They are sitting around chatting, then set up the photo, take it, then go back to chatting.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1​052559295718539264


Ryanair isn't gonna sleep with you, dude.
 
2018-11-07 08:12:31 PM  

Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.


But they weren't faking it. The airline said they were, doesn't meant they actually were.
 
2018-11-07 08:16:19 PM  

Kouta: UNC_Samurai: You've got to sink pretty low to be a RyanAir apologist.

In this instance RyanAir wasn't the miscreant.


Which is a farking miracle from what I have read about that airline.
 
2018-11-07 08:20:08 PM  

Kouta: UNC_Samurai: You've got to sink pretty low to be a RyanAir apologist.

In this instance RyanAir wasn't the miscreant.


Actually they were, do those look like adequate places to sleep while they were held over.

No beds or amenities for several hours.
 
2018-11-07 08:32:33 PM  

trumpai: unless this story is about alchemy of lawfare for making strange "precedent" probably "crew" did something else to deserve non kinetic fires. You know maybe they were allocated money for hotel, but blew that money on booze and narcotics. Maybe they were roaming the area wasted.


do u work in HR?
 
2018-11-07 08:35:25 PM  
They got caught staging the scene, and were fired.

They're lucky, really.   In some countries that kind of prank will earn you an overnight flight in the hold of an unpressurized cargo plane.

"Yeah we don't know what happened to those guys.  They all left without saying anything"
 
2018-11-07 08:35:46 PM  
On one hand, the crew quarters looks inadequate for that many people waiting 5 hours for the lounge to open, on the other hand, they clearly faked it in order to hyper exaggerate the problems they faced.

It's hard to believe the other claims when they've clearly lied about the primary one.

Need more info before I can vilify Ryanair for this one.
 
2018-11-07 08:43:57 PM  

Mergatroid: Maynotlast: puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.

Except it was, according to video proof.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4DKn​gTA9E

Except it wasn't. Sure, they posed for the camera, but look at the footage. Do you see anywhere for them to sit down? Short answer? No.


Yes, I do.

Look at the end of the video, you can see them come back and sit down, over in the dark area at the edge of the screen.  They had chairs to sit in.  You can see some of them sitting in the chairs.

They obviously don't have beds, of course.
 
2018-11-07 08:48:44 PM  

puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.


And even if it was faked, free expression is a sacred right for 1000's of years.

fark Ryan Air
 
2018-11-07 08:51:45 PM  

Gyrfalcon: However, it is also true that damage to Ryanairs reputation is nominal at best.


Was.

The flight crew protesting by photo is a verbal reprimand at best.

Firing a flight crew because of their protest is bad.  What's next, paying them in company scrip? I'd rather fly united. I can take a punch.
 
2018-11-07 08:56:43 PM  
How dare they show how we treat our employees.
 
2018-11-07 09:05:09 PM  

doglover: puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.

And even if it was faked, free expression is a sacred right for 1000's of years.

fark Ryan Air


Freedom of expression doesn't protect you from consequences such as getting fired or being called a moron.
Just like freedom of speech.
 
2018-11-07 09:11:21 PM  

jsmilky: trumpai: unless this story is about alchemy of lawfare for making strange "precedent" probably "crew" did something else to deserve non kinetic fires. You know maybe they were allocated money for hotel, but blew that money on booze and narcotics. Maybe they were roaming the area wasted.

do u work in HR?


You're mistaking trumpai's incoherent rambling for the use of HR jargon, I see.  While equally difficult to understand, they're two different things.
 
2018-11-07 09:12:08 PM  
Herr Flick's Revenge:

And it doesn't do anything good for Ryanair's reputation to fire people like this.

Yesterday I didn't know anything about Ryanair. Now I know they're run by Henry Ford level c*nts.
 
2018-11-07 09:12:55 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: doglover: puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.

And even if it was faked, free expression is a sacred right for 1000's of years.

fark Ryan Air

Freedom of expression doesn't protect you from consequences such as getting fired or being called a moron.
Just like freedom of speech.


Right and Ryanair isn't immune from my reaction to never use their service over firing this crew.

A verbal reprimand or the like would have stayed in company, instead the story goes even more viral and I know even more what a shiat company Ryanair is.

Ryanair apparently never heard of the Streisand effect.
 
2018-11-07 09:26:42 PM  

KatanaD: looks staged to me.. i mean really..  there is enough open space they dont have to be ALL TOGETHER like that


"Like that!"

/I don't think that I'm doing this right.
 
2018-11-07 09:51:46 PM  

punkwrestler: Kouta: UNC_Samurai: You've got to sink pretty low to be a RyanAir apologist.

In this instance RyanAir wasn't the miscreant.

Actually they were, do those look like adequate places to sleep while they were held over.

No beds or amenities for several hours.


Ryanair exposes fake photo of cabin crew sleeping in crew room
Youtube 4a4DKngTA9E
No, they weren't.
 
2018-11-07 10:00:15 PM  

Maynotlast: puffy999: Alien Robot: doglover: Yeah, the photo caused a breech of trust, not the firing.

Faking a scene to make your company look bad on social media will not get you kudos, no matter what the company.

Except, it wasn't faked according to anyone except RyanAir.

Except it was, according to video proof.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4DKn​gTA9E


Ohmigawd. He's grabbing her arm and assaulting her, and keeping the microphone.
 
2018-11-07 10:07:05 PM  
Stupid games, stupid prizes.
 
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