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2018-10-19 10:32:19 PM  
How many votes does the editorial board of the Houston Chronicle have?
 
2018-10-19 10:35:26 PM  
  
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2018-10-19 10:36:44 PM  
Houston is a liberal city. We presently have a black mayor and before him we had an openly lesbian mayor for six years. She would still be mayor if not for term limits.
 
2018-10-19 10:40:56 PM  
His repellent personality hamstrings his ability to do the job.

Don't mince words, Chronicle, tell us what you really think.
 
2018-10-19 10:43:28 PM  
It's still Texas. This changes nothing.
 
2018-10-19 11:00:58 PM  
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Ted was really hurt to see weasels on the list.
 
2018-10-19 11:02:07 PM  
       
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2018-10-20 02:04:07 AM  
if the GOP actually put Ted Cruz back into office, then they deserve every last scumball thing he does to them.
 
2018-10-20 02:05:14 AM  
Trump got essentially no paper endorsements. We're well past the point where they matter anymore.
 
2018-10-20 02:14:34 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Trump got essentially no paper endorsements. We're well past the point where they matter anymore.


probably.  or at least I think this election isn't going to be decided by facts, reason or logic.  so a cold reading of Cruz's congressional record really doesn't matter to anyone save his opponents and those victimized by Cruz's policy decisions.  the trumpers don't give a f*ck about Cruz's personality (which is horrific) or his end goals (equally horrific).  they just wanna 'stick it to the libs' and laugh while the country burns.
 
2018-10-20 02:20:26 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Trump got essentially no paper endorsements. We're well past the point where they matter anymore.


Endorsements, no. But he got the PRESS.

That gives me a tiny hope for Beto, although I believe Texans to be too stupid to not vote against their own interests.
 
2018-10-20 02:20:31 AM  
The board wasn't shy in offering up its criticism of Cruz's "repellent personality"

I read that as "reptilian".
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 02:31:01 AM  
Ted Cruz will be reelected, and I hate that.  I guess we will see.

Please do not write off Texas.  Texas is more purple than you think.  We're not all assholes, and it hurts to be written off as some bullsh*t state full of boorish pricks.  It's not true.  Even the worst of us are nice, but their politics are unfortunate.
 
2018-10-20 02:33:36 AM  

433: Even the worst of us are nice, but their politics are unfortunate.


i'm getting really tired of being told i'm going to burn in hell forever tho.  that's not 'nice', that's psychotic.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 02:45:15 AM  

Weaver95: 433: Even the worst of us are nice, but their politics are unfortunate.

i'm getting really tired of being told i'm going to burn in hell forever tho.  that's not 'nice', that's psychotic.


You do not live in Texas.  If Texans are telling you such things, you should let it roll off like water on a duck's back, and remember that someone who says such things live in their own private hell.  Find a seat at the lunch counter, don't pretend to be a martyr.

No one who is telling you that you should burn in hell should color your perception other than you have encountered an asshole.  I believe that you are speaking of your choice of religion.  I am not sure how that choice affects others, or how they would even know.  I have a concern over a persecution complex, but I would not apply that thought forward.  I do not know how anyone knows what you do or why.

But that is immaterial to Texas politics.  Please try to stay focused, and not apply your general discontent with conservatives to yourself in such a broad fashion that it becomes about you, and not about a state facing an election with a young up-and-coming against a man who represents The Man, and is also someone who has made himself unwelcome in the Senate in the past.
 
2018-10-20 02:47:48 AM  

433: You do not live in Texas.  If Texans are telling you such things, you should let it roll off like water on a duck's back, and remember that someone who says such things live in their own private hell.  Find a seat at the lunch counter, don't pretend to be a martyr.


they put that shiat into our textbooks tho....

that ain't right.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 02:50:52 AM  

Weaver95: they put that shiat into our textbooks tho....


I"m not trying to duke it out, but what specifically do you mean?
 
2018-10-20 02:55:27 AM  

433: Weaver95: they put that shiat into our textbooks tho....

I"m not trying to duke it out, but what specifically do you mean?


hard core right wing nut job/f*cknuts set the tone for school books around the country.  whatever they publish is what everyone else uses (for reasons I won't go into here - you can look that up for yourself).  texas has a reputation for slanting history, science and other education materials to put anything 'librul' in as bad a light as humanly possible.  they've rewritten the history of slavery, native americans, and non christians in ways that infuriate anyone who knows the actual historical facts...but because texas chrisitians have a monopoly on text books, they get to put whatever the hell they want into 'em and that's what kids learn.

full disclosure - I work for the state Dept of Ed.  I have...issues....with how textbooks get written and priced out/sold.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 03:05:10 AM  

Weaver95: full disclosure - I work for the state Dept of Ed.  I have...issues....with how textbooks get written and priced out/sold.


Adequate criticism, it's been kind of weird lately for sure.  Give the teacher the benefit of doubt, they know what they're doing most of the time.

But I was curious why specifically you would be concerned with people telling you that you would go to hell when this is an election far out of state.  It would seem that it's a matter of general antipathy towards conservatives and their reactions to you, for some reason.  This article is about Ted Cruz, a senator with national influence, but you've taken it as an opportunity to remind people that some people tell you to go to hell for an as of yet undefined reason.  Fark leans left and leans that way pretty hard.  I'm not sure why you made the effort make an oblique reference to a vague thing, when clarity could have made the point even better.

Am I poltabbing good?  I hate this!
 
2018-10-20 03:17:09 AM  

433: But I was curious why specifically you would be concerned with people telling you that you would go to hell when this is an election far out of state.


so - I live about 40-ish minutes from the carlisle indian school.  if you are not familiar with the history, the short version is this:  evangelicals got the US army to let them scoop up kids off the native american reservations and ship them back East to special schools.  there, the evangelicals taught them to hate/despise their origins, that their culture was shiat, and that to be successful they had to be extra crispy christian to break even with the white man.  I exaggerate, but only slightly.  suffice to say, these schools have a shameful history.....not that you'd KNOW about it tho, because that story doesn't show up in any textbooks where US history is taught to kids.  certainly not in this state, I know because I checked.  the locals in Carlisle have always known about that school, and the carlisle barracks has a graveyard full of dead indian kids who didn't survive their schooling.  But the locals don't talk about it, and tend to change the subject if its ever mentioned.

that's why I get cranky whenever texan evangelicals rewrite US history.  they cut out the bits where this country screwed up, did things wrong.  how the f*ck are kids supposed to learn from previous mistakes when the evangelicals keep trying to write those mistakes out of history?  not only do they write out the bad stuff....they replace it with propaganda stories that fudge the truth by more than a little bit.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 03:24:00 AM  

Weaver95: that's why I get cranky whenever texan evangelicals rewrite US history.


That's one thing, for sure, and it's a big thing.  But no one tells you that you will go to hell over that.  You meant to allude to veganism.  You're a vegan and I know it, and you are going to hell for being a vegan.
 
2018-10-20 03:25:49 AM  

433: But no one tells you that you will go to hell over that.


no, they tell me i'm going to hell for not being christian.  actually, anyone not sufficiently evangelical is going to hell, at least according to the evangelicals at any rate.  they put that stuff into textbooks as well...but they gotta be careful with how they phrase it.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 03:31:29 AM  

Weaver95: no, they tell me i'm going to hell for not being christian


Why would they even ever know?  You don't have to walk around with an "I'm a practitioner of..." billboard.

No one has ever told me sh*t about not being a Christian.
 
2018-10-20 03:35:13 AM  

433: Weaver95: no, they tell me i'm going to hell for not being christian

Why would they even ever know?  You don't have to walk around with an "I'm a practitioner of..." billboard.

No one has ever told me sh*t about not being a Christian.


Yeah but I make ONE joke about David Bowie's first album...

/I kid
 
2018-10-20 03:38:04 AM  
Weaver95:

so - I live about 40-ish minutes from the carlisle indian school.

I'd like to take the time to point out, sadly... Many of the people who are familiar with the name know it because of Jim Thorpe.

/and everyone knows how well he was treated
//... sadly, again, many people don't...
 
2018-10-20 03:38:43 AM  
///he was not treated well, is what I meant
 
2018-10-20 03:38:48 AM  

433: Why would they even ever know?


because its almost always the first thing they ask whenever they meet someone new and they're an evangelical.  "Hi, my name is [name], are you a christian?" is almost always the first thing I'm asked if/when I meet an evangelical.  least around here anyways.  I dunno, maybe its different in other states.

when I tell them no thanks, i'm not interested they sometimes press harder and keep trying to convert me to their church....till I mention that i'm a practicing witch of course.  THEN they freak out and run away.  i'd really rather not even have that conversation in the first place tho.
 
2018-10-20 03:42:16 AM  

puffy999: Weaver95:

so - I live about 40-ish minutes from the carlisle indian school.

I'd like to take the time to point out, sadly... Many of the people who are familiar with the name know it because of Jim Thorpe.

/and everyone knows how well he was treated
//... sadly, again, many people don't...


Pennlive ran a series of articles last year about that school.  the indian tribes have been tracking down their lost children and moving the bodies back to the reservations.  to their credit, the US army didn't put up a fuss and worked with the tribal governments to get the remains back home....but some of the local evangelicals kicked up a fuss about it.  not many tho, just a few of the local head cases.  the rest just refused to talk about it, and asked Pennlive to take down those articles.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 03:51:41 AM  

Weaver95: "Hi, my name is [name], are you a christian?" is almost always the first thing I'm asked if/when I meet an evangelical.


And you thought evangelicals in the south were stupid.  Never, ever, have I heard of such a thing until now.  Ever!  And I was just telling you I couldn't skip a stone without hitting a steeple!  What the hell is going on up there?  I haven't heard of anything like that from anyone else, not even other PA farkers.  That is super weird, super duper weird.

Weaver95: till I mention that i'm a practicing witch of course.


Man, that's been it the whole time!  This has never been about an election in Texas, it's been about being marginalized by conservatives in general based on your choice of religion.  Whatever represents the thing that you felt pushed you into a corner was the same issue, no matter where it arose.  It sounds like something weird is going on in the place you live, surely you can come up with some that dodges the issue without saying, "I'm Wiccan."

You would think that this would be some kind of civil rights issue and to a point, it is, but no one is infringing on your rights as far as I know.  You're living in a far stranger place than I've heard of, man I hope it works out.
 
2018-10-20 03:55:12 AM  

433: What the hell is going on up there?


I should point out that i'm about maybe an hour and a half or so from Butler country, which is Santorum country.  not to mention that central Pa is heavy Evangelical territory.  after the state supreme court ruled against the conservatives on gerrymandering, the evangelicals kinda went even more crazy than the norm and started pushing the religion thing as often and as publicly as possible.
 
2018-10-20 03:57:25 AM  

Weaver95: 433: What the hell is going on up there?

I should point out that i'm about maybe an hour and a half or so from Butler country, which is Santorum country.  not to mention that central Pa is heavy Evangelical territory.  after the state supreme court ruled against the conservatives on gerrymandering, the evangelicals kinda went even more crazy than the norm and started pushing the religion thing as often and as publicly as possible.


er...Butler COUNTY, not 'country'.  apparently I can't type tonight.
 
433 [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2018-10-20 03:58:45 AM  

Weaver95: not to mention that central Pa is heavy Evangelical territory.


I get some of it.  I don't know much about Amish country, but I can kind of see how it spills over.  If anyone asked that kind of thing here it would be interpreted as extremely rude.  Yeah, we're dickhead Texans, but we allow others their own space, it's a part of the deal.
 
2018-10-20 04:02:02 AM  

433: Weaver95: not to mention that central Pa is heavy Evangelical territory.

I get some of it.  I don't know much about Amish country, but I can kind of see how it spills over.  If anyone asked that kind of thing here it would be interpreted as extremely rude.  Yeah, we're dickhead Texans, but we allow others their own space, it's a part of the deal.


not here.  Rural Pennsylvania is very clannish (in all aspects of that word).  everyone here wants to be all up in everyone else's business.
 
2018-10-20 04:04:47 AM  

433: Weaver95: not to mention that central Pa is heavy Evangelical territory.

I get some of it.  I don't know much about Amish country, but I can kind of see how it spills over.  If anyone asked that kind of thing here it would be interpreted as extremely rude.  Yeah, we're dickhead Texans, but we allow others their own space, it's a part of the deal.


To be fair, the jokes about PA I am familiar with are a) Pennsyltucky and b) Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Alabama in the middle. So hey, no Tejas!
 
2018-10-20 04:05:51 AM  
Also, you should HEAR how pissed San Franciscans get when you call it "Frisco"

It almost makes offline trolling worth it.
 
2018-10-20 04:06:54 AM  

puffy999: 433: Weaver95: not to mention that central Pa is heavy Evangelical territory.

I get some of it.  I don't know much about Amish country, but I can kind of see how it spills over.  If anyone asked that kind of thing here it would be interpreted as extremely rude.  Yeah, we're dickhead Texans, but we allow others their own space, it's a part of the deal.

To be fair, the jokes about PA I am familiar with are a) Pennsyltucky and b) Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Alabama in the middle. So hey, no Tejas!


texas is a bit more socially advanced than rural Pennsylvania.  as evidence, I present you with the PA liquor control board!  our state has a (religious based) monopoly on the sale of liquor and maintains a death grip on the sale of alcohol.
 
2018-10-20 04:46:46 AM  

Weaver95: texas is a bit more socially advanced than rural Pennsylvania.  as evidence, I present you with the PA liquor control board!  our state has a (religious based) monopoly on the sale of liquor and maintains a death grip on the sale of alcohol


I think the 19-day bender, 1.26%+ BAC post the other day (not a Farker but someone a Farker encountered) literally broke my "alcohol" monitor.

All I know is, it is odd that bars can serve so late but liquor stores have much more strict hours, at least in my state.

I mean, I drink beer so I don't really GAF, but still.
 
2018-10-20 05:51:18 AM  

fmcgalaxie500: Houston is a liberal city. We presently have a black mayor and before him we had an openly lesbian mayor for six years. She would still be mayor if not for term limits.


Large and even midsize cities tend to be liberal even in red states. I think Salt Lake City even had an lgbt mayor. I could be wrong though. I have heard SLC has a lot of liberals cause it isn't just Mormons that live there.
 
2018-10-20 05:57:56 AM  
C'mon Teddddd.
 
2018-10-20 06:08:47 AM  

Weaver95: Weaver95: 433: What the hell is going on up there?

I should point out that i'm about maybe an hour and a half or so from Butler country, which is Santorum country.  not to mention that central Pa is heavy Evangelical territory.  after the state supreme court ruled against the conservatives on gerrymandering, the evangelicals kinda went even more crazy than the norm and started pushing the religion thing as often and as publicly as possible.

er...Butler COUNTY, not 'country'.  apparently I can't type tonight.


Hey ! A little shout out from Butler Country
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Did someone say Butler ?
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2018-10-20 06:24:55 AM  

433: Weaver95: no, they tell me i'm going to hell for not being christian

Why would they even ever know?  You don't have to walk around with an "I'm a practitioner of..." billboard.

No one has ever told me sh*t about not being a Christian.


"You don't have to walk around with an 'I'm a practitioner of...' billboard."

This is America. It is, or is supposed to be, your inalienable right to walk around with any billboard you want and not have people denouncing you as the debbil, outlawing your beliefs, writing textbooks brainwash children into hating you. Your statement could easily be interpreted as, "If you just stay in the closet/on the other side of the tracks, nobody gets hurt." I don't think it's what you meant, but that kind of statement really gets my hackles up.
 
2018-10-20 06:27:23 AM  

puffy999: Also, you should HEAR how pissed San Franciscans get when you call it "Frisco"

It almost makes offline trolling worth it.


I remember a guy who grew up in Sacramento but passed himself off as a San Franciscan to us flyover state rubes. He would go incandescent over "Frisco" but then refer to his hometown as "Sacto."

Hilarity ensued.
 
2018-10-20 06:28:37 AM  
Who knew that being a cynical grandstanding asshole would have consequences?  Not Ted.  Noted?  NoTed?
 
2018-10-20 06:35:02 AM  

Weaver95: hard core right wing nut job/f*cknuts set the tone for school books around the country.


I don't agree with Weav on much these days, but THIS, Texas is pretty notorious for letting religious nuttery influence textbook and curriculum choices.
 
2018-10-20 06:47:05 AM  

Weaver95: texas is a bit more socially advanced than rural Pennsylvania.  as evidence, I present you with the PA liquor control board!  our state has a (religious based) monopoly on the sale of liquor and maintains a death grip on the sale of alcohol.


100% false.  Just because most of the state stores are closed on Sundays, the actual reason we still have this antiquated system is the ~$200 million in revenues it generates for the state.  And the Democrats are the ones fighting to keep it this way.
 
2018-10-20 07:03:00 AM  
No one that can read votes for Ted anyway
 
2018-10-20 07:22:38 AM  

433: Weaver95: "Hi, my name is [name], are you a christian?" is almost always the first thing I'm asked if/when I meet an evangelical.

And you thought evangelicals in the south were stupid.  Never, ever, have I heard of such a thing until now.  Ever!  And I was just telling you I couldn't skip a stone without hitting a steeple!  What the hell is going on up there?  I haven't heard of anything like that from anyone else, not even other PA


This happened to me on a daily basis when I lived in central Florida.  My employer and his wife were scientologists and many of the clients were an assortment of evangelicals and fundamentalists.   Talk about living in Hell.  Anyway, the clients never failed to try to get me to come to their churches, and threatened me with Hell if I didn't, all day long every day. It didn't matter that I said I was a christian, because I wasn't their brand of Christian. It was exhausting. But they don't let up because they have a mandate to convert others, or they might not get into heaven. This turned out to be the final nail in the coffin for my Christianity, and I left it behind when I moved out of that area.

And then I got the scientology crap from my bosses, which is also hardcore evangelizing.


Man, that's been it the whole time!  This has never been about an election in Texas, it's been about being marginalized by conservatives in general based on your choice of religion.  Whatever represents the thing that you felt pushed you into a corner was the same issue, no matter where it arose.  It sounds like something weird is going on in the place you live, surely you can come up with some that dodges the issue without saying, "I'm Wiccan."

There is no acceptable answer besides yes for them.  I ended up trying a wide variety of excuses and responses and got nowhere. At some point a person would just like to be honest about what they believe and be given some respect for personal choices.  That's what Weaver did. And if you can't understand that, then you are just lucky to have never been put in that position.
 
2018-10-20 07:25:46 AM  
I remember a guy in the dorm at college, 28 years ago, who would start conversations with strangers with 'Hi, are you going to Heaven?  I  am.'  Which made me think his arrogant certainty would be a disqualifier..
 
2018-10-20 07:28:12 AM  

Alphax: I remember a guy in the dorm at college, 28 years ago, who would start conversations with strangers with 'Hi, are you going to Heaven?  I  am.'  Which made me think his arrogant certainty would be a disqualifier..


MC 900ft jesus approves...
 
2018-10-20 07:32:02 AM  

433: It sounds like something weird is going on in the place you live, surely you can come up with some that dodges the issue without saying, "I'm Wiccan."


There's a simple explanation for why our chief resident Wiccan martyr so often finds himself in such close proximity to his persecutors.  He goes to churches (or the local paper's online comments) and starts the fights.
 
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