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(NPR)   News: Recent earthquake in Indonesia killed and affected hundreds of thousands. Weird News: A prison released its prisoners to check on their families. Fark: A good chunk of them ACTUALLY RETURNED TO PRISON   ( npr.org) divider line
    More: Strange, prison, Prison, Donggala District Prison, inmates, Penology, prison head Safiuddin, Noele Mage/NPR, Corrections officer  
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2018-10-11 12:07:27 PM  
Prison system is now in need of an increased budget of Brownie points.
 
2018-10-11 12:39:39 PM  
Me, depends on each individual's situation I guess.  If I was a lifer with no chance for parole or looking at a possible death sentence, then sayanara suckas. If I was in on a fifteen month stretch for B&E or simple assault, I'd much rather do the time than have a warrant on my record for the rest of my life.
 
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2018-10-11 03:36:31 PM  
Done in two.
 
2018-10-11 06:47:24 PM  
Go to prison or spend time with family?

Tough choice.
 
2018-10-11 07:16:35 PM  
Seems like they might have a problem with jailing people for minor offenses.  No great surprise that those people jailed for minor offenses might not all be horrible, and might not want to compound their troubles with a jailbreaking conviction.
 
2018-10-11 07:18:21 PM  

PainInTheASP: Me, depends on each individual's situation I guess.  If I was a lifer with no chance for parole or looking at a possible death sentence, then sayanara suckas. If I was in on a fifteen month stretch for B&E or simple assault, I'd much rather do the time than have a warrant on my record for the rest of my life.


Not to mention that Indonesia is not one of those countries that messes around.  Especially if they put forth some trust and you abuse it.
 
2018-10-11 07:18:26 PM  
How many of them just had to visit a different cell block?
 
2018-10-11 07:21:14 PM  
I'm glad. I'm trying to look at the good side of humanity.  Hopefully their families were fine.
 
2018-10-11 07:21:15 PM  
The one place with guaranteed three hots and a cot?

Of course they went back!
 
2018-10-11 07:22:09 PM  
Free Food
 
2018-10-11 07:25:20 PM  
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2018-10-11 07:26:11 PM  
This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.
 
2018-10-11 07:32:04 PM  

ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say you dont live anywhere near the prisons in and around New Orleans.  Just a wild guess.
 
2018-10-11 07:32:18 PM  
Well, where else would they go after the earthquake smashed everything else?
 
2018-10-11 07:33:01 PM  
Three hots and a cot
 
2018-10-11 07:34:27 PM  
I have to wonder about this program to be honest. You are essentially rewarding people for a riot. I understand letting them see their families they're worried about but the type of people threatening guards lives aren't necessarily the type whom should be released to the general public. I have to seriously wonder how many returned as well as it said only 25% reported every 2 days despite being required to report. It listed this in a way where it seems like a good thing... It's a good thing only 25% of prisoners are accounted for whatsoever?  It also says they essentially made the prison an unlivable condition. How about those involved in the riot and threatening guard lives sleep on the floor if they destroyed their beds? Actions should have consequences. Those whom weren't involved in the riot should have been released to see their families. Those threatening lives should've had to stay in the pig pen they created.
 
2018-10-11 07:36:59 PM  

PainInTheASP: sayanara


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2018-10-11 07:37:24 PM  
It makes sense if you are a rational decision-maker (often criminals are not).  These are misdemeanor and low level felony type charges so sentences in the story look short with those interviewed having under a year left.  If you have such little time left, you don't want to pick up an escape charge leading to even more time or run the risk of running into a police officer with a shoot first ask questions later when they find out you have a warrant.  It is far better to get the sentence over with and move on than to make things worse. I am happy that so many there are taking that route.
 
2018-10-11 07:41:40 PM  
It's an island surrounded by lots of water. They couldn't leave even if they wanted to!
 
2018-10-11 07:45:03 PM  

PainInTheASP: Me, depends on each individual's situation I guess.  If I was a lifer with no chance for parole or looking at a possible death sentence, then sayanara suckas. If I was in on a fifteen month stretch for B&E or simple assault, I'd much rather do the time than have a warrant on my record for the rest of my life.


"Donggala is a medium-security prison. There are no murderers or rapists. In fact, there are no felons at all. These morning assemblies are studies in casualness, with prison guards standing around swapping cigarettes with the returning inmates who have been convicted of minor offenses. Small-time corruption is a common one. "
 
2018-10-11 07:45:31 PM  

HowDidItHappen: You are essentially rewarding people for a riot.


I mean, that's not unprecedented in human history.
 
2018-10-11 08:04:00 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Three hots and a cot


Depends. Are the three hots nutriloaf? If so and I have several years left... Bye.
 
2018-10-11 08:07:32 PM  

PainInTheASP: Me, depends on each individual's situation I guess.  If I was a lifer with no chance for parole or looking at a possible death sentence, then sayanara suckas. If I was in on a fifteen month stretch for B&E or simple assault, I'd much rather do the time than have a warrant on my record for the rest of my life.


The people from TFA were white collar criminals, busted for forging documents and embezzling and things like that.
 
2018-10-11 08:10:53 PM  

ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.


One of the adjuncts I support is a parole officer in her full time job.  I asked her, since her county is on the Gulf coast.  If someone on house arrest is ordered to evacuate, they are only allowed to evacuate to the county jail, where they are checked in for "the duration".
 
2018-10-11 08:19:53 PM  

wearetheworld: ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you dont live anywhere near the prisons in and around New Orleans.  Just a wild guess.


I don't, and American prisons are part of the reason why we couldn't do something like this with a medium security prison, regardless of where it is.

Also, your comment sounds like some kind of whistle...
 
2018-10-11 08:20:35 PM  

i.r.id10t: ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.

One of the adjuncts I support is a parole officer in her full time job.  I asked her, since her county is on the Gulf coast.  If someone on house arrest is ordered to evacuate, they are only allowed to evacuate to the county jail, where they are checked in for "the duration".


That's farked up. At least they should be able to report to any jail.
 
2018-10-11 08:28:58 PM  

ColonelCathcart: i.r.id10t: ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.

One of the adjuncts I support is a parole officer in her full time job.  I asked her, since her county is on the Gulf coast.  If someone on house arrest is ordered to evacuate, they are only allowed to evacuate to the county jail, where they are checked in for "the duration".

That's farked up. At least they should be able to report to any jail.


Who is going to pay for that?  Other counties jails have their own population to serve.  When you are on probation, you are the responsibility of the county authorities.  So they have to use their own facility or pay others to care for them so what option do you think they choose?
 
2018-10-11 08:35:04 PM  

Daedalus27: ColonelCathcart: i.r.id10t: ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.

One of the adjuncts I support is a parole officer in her full time job.  I asked her, since her county is on the Gulf coast.  If someone on house arrest is ordered to evacuate, they are only allowed to evacuate to the county jail, where they are checked in for "the duration".

That's farked up. At least they should be able to report to any jail.

Who is going to pay for that?  Other counties jails have their own population to serve.  When you are on probation, you are the responsibility of the county authorities.  So they have to use their own facility or pay others to care for them so what option do you think they choose?


They could also let you leave?
 
2018-10-11 08:44:29 PM  

ColonelCathcart: wearetheworld: ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you dont live anywhere near the prisons in and around New Orleans.  Just a wild guess.

I don't, and American prisons are part of the reason why we couldn't do something like this with a medium security prison, regardless of where it is.

Also, your comment sounds like some kind of whistle...


My comment is truth in the face of doing what feels good but has disastrous effects on society.  That probably sounds like a whistle to libs.
 
2018-10-11 08:50:19 PM  
Based on what I know of the medium security prison where my friend works, I would guess at least half the inmates would return voluntarily, if only because they need a place to stay and eat.
 
2018-10-12 12:43:41 AM  

PainInTheASP: Me, depends on each individual's situation I guess.  If I was a lifer with no chance for parole or looking at a possible death sentence, then sayanara suckas. If I was in on a fifteen month stretch for B&E or simple assault, I'd much rather do the time than have a warrant on my record for the rest of my life.


Plus the whole "house destroyed, no where to run to and you have shelter food and water" thing.
 
2018-10-12 01:43:24 AM  
80 (22%) of 360 returned. So 78% did not return. Not sure I would hail that as a good chunk or a good result. Better than 0%, sure. As posted earlier, those returning probably almost finished their term and don't want to risk recapture and additional time. Plus, doesn't Indonesia provide small reductions in prison terms regularly to those that are well behaved? That's probably a better incentive for those returning.
 
2018-10-12 01:49:14 AM  

LiberalConservative: 80 (22%) of 360 returned. So 78% did not return. Not sure I would hail that as a good chunk or a good result. Better than 0%, sure. As posted earlier, those returning probably almost finished their term and don't want to risk recapture and additional time. Plus, doesn't Indonesia provide small reductions in prison terms regularly to those that are well behaved? That's probably a better incentive for those returning.


Wait... the article later states 260 inmates stayed and didn't even leave. I may not be the smartest on Fark, but this isn't adding up... math time:
260 of 360 stayed = 100 inmates left.
100 inmates left, but 80 inmates returned = 20 did not return.
That makes for 80% return rate for those that left. Pretty good after all! And the article sucks.
 
2018-10-12 08:05:53 AM  
Prison can be fun, so why not?
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2018-10-12 02:01:36 PM  

wearetheworld: ColonelCathcart: wearetheworld: ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you dont live anywhere near the prisons in and around New Orleans.  Just a wild guess.

I don't, and American prisons are part of the reason why we couldn't do something like this with a medium security prison, regardless of where it is.

Also, your comment sounds like some kind of whistle...

My comment is truth in the face of doing what feels good but has disastrous effects on society.  That probably sounds like a whistle to libs.


What the US is doing with "criminal justice" is the real damage.

But I'm feeding a troll, so I'm going to stop.
 
2018-10-12 02:15:36 PM  

ColonelCathcart: wearetheworld: ColonelCathcart: wearetheworld: ColonelCathcart: This is where I repeat the fact that criminals are not necessarily bad people.

I know we'd never do such a thing in the USA (see Katrina), but I'm going to guess the recidivism risk dropped significantly for these people.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you dont live anywhere near the prisons in and around New Orleans.  Just a wild guess.

I don't, and American prisons are part of the reason why we couldn't do something like this with a medium security prison, regardless of where it is.

Also, your comment sounds like some kind of whistle...

My comment is truth in the face of doing what feels good but has disastrous effects on society.  That probably sounds like a whistle to libs.

What the US is doing with "criminal justice" is the real damage.

But I'm feeding a troll, so I'm going to stop.


I Know you need the voters in November, but this is extreme even for you.
 
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