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2018-10-11 10:24:49 AM  
Don't forget to get them to undercoat while they're down there checking the fuel lines.

/giggidy
 
2018-10-11 10:27:02 AM  
The F-35 is way too expensive to waste on things like flying.  Too dangerous.
 
2018-10-11 10:31:54 AM  
Built FORD tough.
 
2018-10-11 10:32:39 AM  
Take off the wheels...add some frickin' lasers...put a little radiation shielding on that puppy and you got yourself the beginnings of SPACE FORCE!
 
2018-10-11 10:32:43 AM  
I detest the military's trend in the last 30 years to try and find the one aircraft that "does it all". A few squadrons of an F-35 type aircraft for special missions and a horde of simpler, more mission specific aircraft that can be built and maintained at a much lower cost. The F-20 Tigershark is a good example.
 
2018-10-11 10:34:16 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: I detest the military's trend in the last 30 years to try and find the one aircraft that "does it all". A few squadrons of an F-35 type aircraft for special missions and a horde of simpler, more mission specific aircraft that can be built and maintained at a much lower cost. The F-20 Tigershark is a good example.


I don't understand why your Navy has an Army that has its own Air Force and Navy, while also having their own Air Force.
 
2018-10-11 10:36:37 AM  
NO WIRE HANGARS!!!
 
2018-10-11 10:40:42 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Old_Chief_Scott: I detest the military's trend in the last 30 years to try and find the one aircraft that "does it all". A few squadrons of an F-35 type aircraft for special missions and a horde of simpler, more mission specific aircraft that can be built and maintained at a much lower cost. The F-20 Tigershark is a good example.

I don't understand why your Navy has an Army that has its own Air Force and Navy, while also having their own Air Force.


Confused?  You will be after we add the Space Force to that mix.
 
2018-10-11 10:41:01 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Built FORD tough.


Sorry to say, more like a '76 Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare.
 
2018-10-11 10:42:10 AM  
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2018-10-11 10:42:22 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: I detest the military's trend in the last 30 years to try and find the one aircraft that "does it all". A few squadrons of an F-35 type aircraft for special missions and a horde of simpler, more mission specific aircraft that can be built and maintained at a much lower cost. The F-20 Tigershark is a good example.


I'm wondering how PJ's feel about the rotor wash from V-22 Osprey.
 
2018-10-11 10:42:41 AM  

Circusdog320: Take off the wheels...add some frickin' lasers...put a little radiation shielding on that puppy and you got yourself the beginnings of SPACE FORCE!


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2018-10-11 10:42:44 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Don't forget to get them to undercoat while they're down there checking the fuel lines.

/giggidy


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/you're gonna want that truecoat
 
2018-10-11 10:44:50 AM  
Well it looks like we won't be able to invade Canada after all. I was looking forward to hoarding the poutine.
 
2018-10-11 10:45:05 AM  
The F-35 has surely paid for some Lockheed Martin executive to build a lavish summer home. If this is a just universe, the next F-35 to crash will swan dive directly into that summer home.

/I know
//It's not a just universe
///if it was, I wouldn't be farking at work
 
2018-10-11 10:46:02 AM  
"Inspections are to be carried out on faulty fuel tubes."

Well there's your problem right there
 
2018-10-11 10:46:11 AM  
Check for Corrosion while you're down there. F35-biggest misuse of taxpayer funds for military purposes EVER. F22 is where its at.
 
2018-10-11 10:46:26 AM  

Public Call Box: Circusdog320: Take off the wheels...add some frickin' lasers...put a little radiation shielding on that puppy and you got yourself the beginnings of SPACE FORCE!

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Fake news. No True American would serve in a UN military!
 
2018-10-11 10:46:38 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Don't forget to get them to undercoat while they're down there checking the fuel lines.

/giggidy


probably all need blinker fluid
 
2018-10-11 10:47:56 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Old_Chief_Scott: I detest the military's trend in the last 30 years to try and find the one aircraft that "does it all". A few squadrons of an F-35 type aircraft for special missions and a horde of simpler, more mission specific aircraft that can be built and maintained at a much lower cost. The F-20 Tigershark is a good example.

I don't understand why your Navy has an Army that has its own Air Force and Navy, while also having their own Air Force.


Marines exist because people used to actually fight other people on ships - you don't want to have the guys trying to make your ship going put-put to also have to go slashie-slashie.

The Air Force used to be part of the Army.  But the Navy needed planes also to kill other ships.  The Air Force was created because Spureme High Gods of The True Air cannot accept orders from ground- and water-bound peons.  Also, having their own service lets them suck directly from that sweet, sweet Congressional teat.
 
2018-10-11 10:48:45 AM  

phalamir: Also, having their own service lets them suck directly from that sweet, sweet Congressional teat.


Winner winner, chicken dinner.
 
2018-10-11 10:49:13 AM  
We're not mad. We're disappointed.
 
2018-10-11 10:50:29 AM  
People criticize the F-35s trillion dollar cost and its impact on all other Pentagon and civilian programs without acknowledging that an F-35 has successfully flattened one mud hut in Afghanistan.
 
2018-10-11 10:52:34 AM  

jaytkay: People criticize the F-35s trillion dollar cost and its impact on all other Pentagon and civilian programs without acknowledging that an F-35 has successfully flattened one mud hut in Afghanistan.


It has yet to be confirmed that the mud hut did not collapse on its own. Nor has it been disproven that Hillary Clinton use to run a pizza shop out of that mud hut.
 
2018-10-11 10:53:03 AM  

Gaddiel: The F-35 has surely paid for some Lockheed Martin executive to build a lavish summer home island. If this is a just universe, the next F-35 to crash will swan dive directly into that summer home.

/I know
//It's not a just universe
///if it was, I wouldn't be farking at work


FTFY
 
2018-10-11 10:53:04 AM  

phalamir: Marine


MAss Rides INavy Equip​ment
Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential
 
2018-10-11 10:54:42 AM  

jaytkay: People criticize the F-35s trillion dollar cost and its impact on all other Pentagon and civilian programs without acknowledging that an F-35 has successfully flattened one mud hut in Afghanistan.


at this point im pretty sure we could have still paid all of those people the same amount of money, given those employees all the same amount of income, all for no work during that time and then not had to have bought the materials....it could have been a no-work/no-show contract that would have saved the country money
 
2018-10-11 10:55:24 AM  

ar393: phalamir: Marine

My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment
Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential


Intelligence Negated Entirely
 
2018-10-11 10:55:33 AM  
Stubborn, greedy old men and their toys.
Fark 'em.
 
2018-10-11 10:55:58 AM  

Public Call Box: Circusdog320: Take off the wheels...add some frickin' lasers...put a little radiation shielding on that puppy and you got yourself the beginnings of SPACE FORCE!

[i.pinimg.com image 850x531]


lol, I like how what looks to be twin giant space cannons are connected directly to one of the rear space thrusters (presumably where the space ammunition would be stored/loaded).

This picture checks out.
 
2018-10-11 10:56:31 AM  

ar393: jaytkay: People criticize the F-35s trillion dollar cost and its impact on all other Pentagon and civilian programs without acknowledging that an F-35 has successfully flattened one mud hut in Afghanistan.

at this point im pretty sure we could have still paid all of those people the same amount of money, given those employees all the same amount of income, all for no work during that time and then not had to have bought the materials....it could have been a no-work/no-show contract that would have saved the country money


A pilot program for universal income? That sounds dangerously socialist.
 
2018-10-11 10:56:36 AM  

ar393: jaytkay: People criticize the F-35s trillion dollar cost and its impact on all other Pentagon and civilian programs without acknowledging that an F-35 has successfully flattened one mud hut in Afghanistan.

at this point im pretty sure we could have still paid all of those people the same amount of money, given those employees all the same amount of income, all for no work during that time and then not had to have bought the materials....it could have been a no-work/no-show contract that would have saved the country money


Shiat, we could have also paid the guy in the mud hut to tear it down himself
 
2018-10-11 10:56:58 AM  

jaytkay: People criticize the F-35s trillion dollar cost and its impact on all other Pentagon and civilian programs without acknowledging that an F-35 has successfully flattened one mud hut in Afghanistan.


So much misinformation in this post. The fact of the matter is that the only combat missions flown by an F35 have been by the Israelis, which means they have flattened mud huts in Syria.

The whole of Fark awaits your apology.
 
2018-10-11 10:58:53 AM  

phalamir: ar393: jaytkay: People criticize the F-35s trillion dollar cost and its impact on all other Pentagon and civilian programs without acknowledging that an F-35 has successfully flattened one mud hut in Afghanistan.

at this point im pretty sure we could have still paid all of those people the same amount of money, given those employees all the same amount of income, all for no work during that time and then not had to have bought the materials....it could have been a no-work/no-show contract that would have saved the country money

Shiat, we could have also paid the guy in the mud hut to tear it down himself


That's called foreign aid money.
 
2018-10-11 10:59:13 AM  
So, we're once again recognizing that the F35 is a massively expensive boondoggle that *still* can't make it out of the hangar?
 
2018-10-11 11:00:56 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Old_Chief_Scott: I detest the military's trend in the last 30 years to try and find the one aircraft that "does it all". A few squadrons of an F-35 type aircraft for special missions and a horde of simpler, more mission specific aircraft that can be built and maintained at a much lower cost. The F-20 Tigershark is a good example.

I don't understand why your Navy has an Army that has its own Air Force and Navy, while also having their own Air Force.


it means we dont have to anser no dam foriner questins so shut up
 
2018-10-11 11:03:17 AM  
The F35 is a research project.  They wanted to build a plane that was above and beyond what was already available, which means you're going to be pushing into unknown territory.  R&D is super-expensive.  By the time they FINALLY get all the problems worked out it will no longer be cutting edge, but hopefully your engineers gained the knowledge and experience to build the next perpetual R&D money hole.

That sounds trite, but having the lead in R&D is actually quite vital to our national interests and is beneficial to all areas, not just defense.
 
2018-10-11 11:04:02 AM  

CarnySaur: NO WIRE HANGARS!!!


Until Roe vs. Wade is repealed.
 
2018-10-11 11:06:07 AM  

Explodo: The F35 is a research project.  They wanted to build a plane that was above and beyond what was already available, which means you're going to be pushing into unknown territory.  R&D is super-expensive.  By the time they FINALLY get all the problems worked out it will no longer be cutting edge, but hopefully your engineers gained the knowledge and experience to build the next perpetual R&D money hole.

That sounds trite, but having the lead in R&D is actually quite vital to our national interests and is beneficial to all areas, not just defense.


Swell. Let's have the stockholders pick up the tab for that R&D rather than the taxpayers
 
2018-10-11 11:06:39 AM  
The thing that I don't get is let's say we got into a full blown shooting war somewhere and started to lose F-35's.  What's the plan? How the heck are we going to pay to crank out another 100 or 1000 of them?
 
2018-10-11 11:07:41 AM  

Gaddiel: The F-35 has surely paid for some Lockheed Martin executive to build a lavish summer home. If this is a just universe, the next F-35 to crash will swan dive directly into that summer home.

/I know
//It's not a just universe
///if it was, I wouldn't be farking at work


That's what you do at work?

/changes their Fark color to "WooHoo" hot pink
/  ;-)
 
2018-10-11 11:08:35 AM  
We need Dr. Barnhouse more than ever.
 
2018-10-11 11:09:19 AM  

Public Call Box: Circusdog320: Take off the wheels...add some frickin' lasers...put a little radiation shielding on that puppy and you got yourself the beginnings of SPACE FORCE!

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We'ed  be lucky to to get these.
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2018-10-11 11:12:48 AM  

adj_m: Public Call Box: Circusdog320: Take off the wheels...add some frickin' lasers...put a little radiation shielding on that puppy and you got yourself the beginnings of SPACE FORCE!

[i.pinimg.com image 850x531]

lol, I like how what looks to be twin giant space cannons are connected directly to one of the rear space thrusters (presumably where the space ammunition would be stored/loaded).

This picture checks out.


I also like how a space craft needs wings and what look like air intakes. LOL indeed!
 
2018-10-11 11:14:36 AM  

Sharksfan: The thing that I don't get is let's say we got into a full blown shooting war somewhere and started to lose F-35's.  What's the plan? How the heck are we going to pay to crank out another 100 or 1000 of them?


Another way to think of it is like the Protoss spending tons of gas on Void Rays and sending them against Marines.
 
2018-10-11 11:15:35 AM  

NOLAhd: Explodo: The F35 is a research project.  They wanted to build a plane that was above and beyond what was already available, which means you're going to be pushing into unknown territory.  R&D is super-expensive.  By the time they FINALLY get all the problems worked out it will no longer be cutting edge, but hopefully your engineers gained the knowledge and experience to build the next perpetual R&D money hole.

That sounds trite, but having the lead in R&D is actually quite vital to our national interests and is beneficial to all areas, not just defense.

Swell. Let's have the stockholders pick up the tab for that R&D rather than the taxpayers


There's this funny thing about defense work...there's generally no non-defense market for the primary thing created.  In order to create that primary thing you may have to pioneer some technology that has crossover value, but that research might not have been done without trying to solve the problems created by making the primary thing.  Due to the lack of market outside of defense, without someone asking for the product, the associated research would generally not be done.

Sure, the end goal is to have self-sustaining companies that can make their way in a non-government-funded marketplace, but if a company only makes specialized technology that's only useful to defense situations then that company will be perpetually on the government dime.  Losing their expertise is bad for national security.  The military knows this.  Most high-level government people know this.

You'd be really surprised how many people in the US are actually employed due to defense spending.
 
2018-10-11 11:17:14 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: I detest the military's trend in the last 30 years to try and find the one aircraft that "does it all". A few squadrons of an F-35 type aircraft for special missions and a horde of simpler, more mission specific aircraft that can be built and maintained at a much lower cost. The F-20 Tigershark is a good example.


I remember, at the time, General Mattis mentioning the same thing when it game to ground troops in Afghanistan. When he became commander of US and Alied forces, he mentioned how it was time to stop with the desire to make ever more sophisticated electronic equipment designed to replace troops and instead put more boots on the ground.

The best way for todays brass to advance is to sponsor successful programs. That includes building of ships, and developing better weapons. This is why you see brass going to cap. hill and requesting more money. To no do so means they will lose power.
 
2018-10-11 11:18:11 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The F-35 is way too expensive to waste on things like flying.  Too dangerous.


Park them next to the littoral combat ships.  Inside.  Plywood and MDF tends to rot when wet.
I heard a rumor both programs were slightly over budget.
 
2018-10-11 11:18:37 AM  
How do they know it crashed if it's invisible?
 
2018-10-11 11:19:44 AM  

Explodo: You'd be really surprised how many people in the US are actually employed due to defense spending.


What surprises me is that people still refer to it as defense spending, its been 7 decades since any of it was used for defense. Everything since then has been offense spending.
 
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