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(The Atlantic)   The U.S. Navy uses one weird trick to eliminate aviation accidents   ( theatlantic.com) divider line
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2018-10-11 04:35:51 AM  
Miss the ground?
 
2018-10-11 04:47:03 AM  
Floaty keychain things?
 
2018-10-11 04:58:25 AM  
During the Cold War, the Soviets would brag about their superiority, by pointing out they never had accidents.  In reality, they never reported on their accidents, while the US media could be counted on to ferret out facts and hold entities, corporate or government, public or private, to accountability.

Now that this writer can't easily access the data, he seems a trifle upset.  Over time, journalists develop inside sources, that help them get info out when the official sources dry up.  It used to be that press conferences were battle fields, with someone on the hot seat, trying to give out the official view of whoever called the press conference, and the media interrupting with conflicting facts, new topics, etc.  Now, if we don't like what we hear, it's dismissed as fake news.

This guy needs to realize that if he wants to satisfy his curiosity about his friend's death and hold some entity accountable, he will have to apply more effort than just poking around with a keyboard and the FOIA.
 
2018-10-11 05:03:49 AM  
Constantly having their aircraft in maintenance mode so they're not flying?
 
2018-10-11 05:08:41 AM  
Outsourced aviation to the Indian Navy?
 
2018-10-11 05:09:03 AM  

cherryl taggart: This guy needs to realize that if he wants to satisfy his curiosity about his friend's death and hold some entity accountable, he will have to apply more effort than just poking around with a keyboard and the FOIA.


You're advising him to spy, basically.
 
2018-10-11 05:12:38 AM  
Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?
 
2018-10-11 05:41:05 AM  

cherryl taggart: During the Cold War, the Soviets would brag about their superiority, by pointing out they never had accidents.  In reality, they never reported on their accidents, while the US media could be counted on to ferret out facts and hold entities, corporate or government, public or private, to accountability.

Now that this writer can't easily access the data, he seems a trifle upset.  Over time, journalists develop inside sources, that help them get info out when the official sources dry up.  It used to be that press conferences were battle fields, with someone on the hot seat, trying to give out the official view of whoever called the press conference, and the media interrupting with conflicting facts, new topics, etc.  Now, if we don't like what we hear, it's dismissed as fake news.

This guy needs to realize that if he wants to satisfy his curiosity about his friend's death and hold some entity accountable, he will have to apply more effort than just poking around with a keyboard and the FOIA.


Wait, the government tries to quietly be a lot less open about some of its fatal farkups to save face, and your reaction is largely just that the journalist who noticed and reported this is a lazy whiner?
 
2018-10-11 05:57:40 AM  
Docking computer
 
2018-10-11 06:02:18 AM  

SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?


Wow, neat story, thank you very much. So, if he shot himself down four more times he would be an ace? By the way, your grandpa sounds like he was very, very cool...
 
2018-10-11 06:06:46 AM  
Rear Admiral:  Stop crashing.

Piolts: Oooooooooh!!!
 
2018-10-11 06:54:09 AM  
 
2018-10-11 07:04:10 AM  
I hate the term "one weird trick" SO farking much anymore, I am too annoyed to even read the article.

If you want people to avoid clicking your headline, you should probably avoid clickbait headlines, even if it's part of the joke.
 
2018-10-11 07:13:25 AM  
My XGF has a friend whose husband died in a CH53E.  One of the rotor blades detached in flight.  She told me Sikorsky paid her friend 7 figures for it.
 
2018-10-11 07:16:30 AM  
Mothballing?
 
2018-10-11 07:16:45 AM  

durbnpoisn: I hate the term "one weird trick" SO farking much anymore, I am too annoyed to even read the article.

If you want people to avoid clicking your headline, you should probably avoid clickbait headlines, even if it's part of the joke.


He rants about clickbait headlines, you won't believe what happens next.
 
2018-10-11 07:34:36 AM  

NotThatGuyAgain: My XGF has a friend whose husband died in a CH53E.  One of the rotor blades detached in flight.  She told me Sikorsky paid her friend 7 figures for it.


Huh. Kind of morbid that they gave her the blade after the accident. And that someone wanted it so badly.

/ awesome! middle seat on my flight to hell!
 
2018-10-11 08:17:05 AM  

durbnpoisn: I hate the term "one weird trick" SO farking much anymore, I am too annoyed to even read the article.

If you want people to avoid clicking your headline, you should probably avoid clickbait headlines, even if it's part of the joke.


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2018-10-11 08:27:30 AM  

Amish Tech Support: Miss the ground?


You can miss the ground all you want, but like that crazy ex girlfriend that was just a bad relationship for you, eventually you'll  just go right back to her. And you promise yourself you won't, but you just know you're gonna hit it again.
 
2018-10-11 08:32:29 AM  

orbister: You're advising him to spy, basically.


That's all journalism is really except you publish your intel openly to anyone that wants to see it instead of just your side.
 
2018-10-11 08:33:42 AM  

SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?


Did they award him the kill?
 
2018-10-11 08:34:40 AM  

SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?


I was convinced this was going to be a McCain story.
 
2018-10-11 08:43:23 AM  
The more complex an aircraft is, the harder it is to keep flying.  Look at the F-22's readiness levels (they suck) and you can project that forward to the F-35 and beyond.

It doesn't matter how advanced your aircraft is if it's not in the air.
 
2018-10-11 08:55:26 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: durbnpoisn: I hate the term "one weird trick" SO farking much anymore, I am too annoyed to even read the article.

If you want people to avoid clicking your headline, you should probably avoid clickbait headlines, even if it's part of the joke.

He rants about clickbait headlines, you won't believe what happens next.


i should have known better then to click the link.... thank you for the re-education.
 
2018-10-11 09:04:39 AM  
Don't crash?
 
2018-10-11 09:31:01 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: durbnpoisn: I hate the term "one weird trick" SO farking much anymore, I am too annoyed to even read the article.

If you want people to avoid clicking your headline, you should probably avoid clickbait headlines, even if it's part of the joke.

He rants about clickbait headlines, you won't believe what happens next.


I knew what it was and didn't care.  Clicked anyway.
 
2018-10-11 09:58:42 AM  

MythDragon: SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?

Did they award him the kill?


... and paint his own aircraft under the cockpit?
 
2018-10-11 10:49:22 AM  

SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?


That website is blocked on the NMCI (Navy Marine Core Intranet).   Cannot be accessed with a CAC.  Go figure.
 
2018-10-11 10:49:32 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Maintenance and safety issues have been plaguing the military for a few years now, and are a direct result of the asshole Republicans who triggered sequestration as part of their bogus debt ceiling crisis.

Do not let Republicans hold the moral high ground when it comes to "the troops".  Because of the high number of fatal accidents, Republicans are responsible for more military deaths than enemy forces.


Everyone gets a little war weary after half a century of perpetual warfare.  Congress dropped the ball by not declaring a war and only funding it for 2 years.  Doesn't matter which party is in charge, the House and Senate collectively abdicated their responsibility to war profiteers and intelligence agencies.  War has always been and always will be a racket.
The only way to stop military deaths is to turn them back into civilians instead of soldiers.  There is nothing moral about the high ground, just an easier place to defend in a ground assault.  The high ground is an easy target with air superiority.  Republicans hold the underground bunker of immorality.  Democrats  opened that door by turning their key at the same time.
 
2018-10-11 11:01:45 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?

That website is blocked on the NMCI (Navy Marine Core Intranet).   Cannot be accessed with a CAC.  Go figure.


Hey Drew, can we get a "That's just stupid, I feel for ya" button?

/That really is stupid
 
2018-10-11 11:12:53 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?

That website is blocked on the NMCI (Navy Marine Core Intranet).   Cannot be accessed with a CAC.  Go figure.


Just use your sys admin access and use the unfiltered proxy server.  That's what I always did. No more DOD "no can look" banners for me.
 
2018-10-11 11:38:03 AM  

stir22: SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?

Wow, neat story, thank you very much. So, if he shot himself down four more times he would be an ace? By the way, your grandpa sounds like he was very, very cool...


He was! I miss him terribly. My aunt has the transcriptions of his memoirs he dictated before he passed, some day I intend to get them edited into something publishable. 28 years in the Navy as an aviator, ship's captain, and working in the Pentagon gave him a ton of good stories. I'll be sure to submit a link when I ever get it done.
 
2018-10-11 11:54:33 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The more complex an aircraft is, the harder it is to keep flying. Look at the F-22's readiness levels (they suck) and you can project that forward to the F-35 and beyond.


Meanwhile, older aircraft like the F-15 can lose a whole wing in flight and still make it back home, and be flying again in a few weeks.  Not as maneuverable as an F-22, but as you said, a grounded aircraft is limited in usefulness.
 
2018-10-11 12:38:31 PM  

SirSigsegV: Not shoot themselves down like this guy my grandfather knew did?


This is amazing.
 
2018-10-11 03:17:51 PM  
You mean cutting loose of all the career aviation guys was a huge mistake?
The republicans f*cked us big time when they did that?  I'm so stunned and surprised this is happening. It wasn't a totally obvious result a few years later. Phew! at least we can't blame them.  It was probably Obama.  I hear he was muslim.
 
2018-10-11 03:47:01 PM  

durbnpoisn: I hate the term "one weird trick" SO farking much anymore, I am too annoyed to even read the article.

If you want people to avoid clicking your headline, you should probably avoid clickbait headlines, even if it's part of the joke.


Lighten up Francis.
 
2018-10-12 11:38:04 AM  

SirSigsegV: My aunt has the transcriptions of his memoirs he dictated before he passed, some day I intend to get them edited into something publishable.


Get a copy now, before something happens to them. If they're not in digital form, maybe she now has a printer with a page feeder scanner (they're so cheap now...).
 
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