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(Fark)   Think about all of the athletes from 50 years ago, and those of today. Which sport do you think has progressed further in terms of performance over the last 50 years? The answer of course is NASCAR. Jimmie Johnson would kick Richard Petty's ass   ( fark.com) divider line
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2018-10-10 07:29:04 PM  
The answer of course is NASCAR Rally, Moto GP. road racing.

Nascar is a joke.
A car covered in sponsor stickers and they still can't afford some rain tires.
They can't even manage to navigate a road course with any predictability. They have no more of a clue than a drunken lumbering hippo.

I'm not saying that what they do doesn't take talent, skill and determination. It does.
It's just that the skill set they possess as drivers is extremely limited.
 
2018-10-10 07:54:35 PM  
Marathon runners.  The 1968 men's Olympic gold medalist finished with a time that would have put him 68th at the 2016 Summer Olympics.

In comparison, the 1968 men's 200m gold medalist had a time that would have given him a silver medal in 2016...0.05 seconds behind Usain "Freakin' Legend" Bolt!  Of course Tommie Smith's Olympics was remembered more for this:

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2018-10-10 08:30:11 PM  
Tennis, especially women's.
 
2018-10-10 08:44:56 PM  
E-sports athletes from 1968 would never be able to prepare their punch cards quickly enough to win a Fortnite match today.
 
2018-10-10 08:50:36 PM  
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2018-10-10 08:54:37 PM  
Jimmie Johnson would kick Richard Petty's ass

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2018-10-10 09:00:24 PM  
Basketball. Look at LeBron. Then look at Bob Cousy.

Baseball is the reverse, however.
 
2018-10-10 09:24:28 PM  

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You best back off that plate son.
 
2018-10-10 09:30:12 PM  
The NFL. The average size, speed, and strength is so different now. Any of those old teams would be destroyed by a modern NFL team as easily as your local JV squad.
 
2018-10-10 09:53:07 PM  
American football, no question. The players are just so much bigger and faster now.

Honorable mention to hockey, for similar reasons. Especially the speed.
 
2018-10-10 10:36:25 PM  

The Third Man: Marathon runners.  The 1968 men's Olympic gold medalist finished with a time that would have put him 68th at the 2016 Summer Olympics.

In comparison, the 1968 men's 200m gold medalist had a time that would have given him a silver medal in 2016...0.05 seconds behind Usain "Freakin' Legend" Bolt!  Of course Tommie Smith's Olympics was remembered more for this:

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qft, there are nine high school runners who've broken the 4 minute mile
 
2018-10-10 11:37:06 PM  
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Nobody has come close to 30 wins in a season in 50 years.

As for NASCAR, the driver's aren't improving, the cars and the tracks are.
 
2018-10-10 11:48:32 PM  
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2018-10-11 12:50:28 AM  
Difficulty: has to be an actual sport. Driving is not a sport.
 
2018-10-11 01:46:17 AM  

The Third Man: Marathon runners.  The 1968 men's Olympic gold medalist finished with a time that would have put him 68th at the 2016 Summer Olympics.


It's harder to compare marathon times directly because no two courses are alike, and you have to factor in weather, etc.  Granted, marathon athletes are in much better shape in 2018 than 1968, but it may be a lot closer than that.
 
2018-10-11 02:03:39 AM  
Jimmy Johnson... shiat, Jimmy Johnson couldn't kick JUNIOR Johnson's ass
 
2018-10-11 02:15:04 AM  
Martial arts competitions.

The emergence of a true mixed martial arts style put to rest the question of which martial art style is the best. None of them are as good as the combination of the best of all of them.

The fighters of the UFC today would handily beat the fighters of 50 years ago.
 
2018-10-11 02:16:09 AM  
The correct answer is skateboarding.
 
2018-10-11 02:20:00 AM  

the unabomber was right: The correct answer is skateboarding.


I feel it's stagnated since the turn of the century. Which is not to say that the athletes today aren't extremely talented, but the tricks they do now were done 20 years ago.

Going back 50 years, absolutely, but has there really been a major evolution except the standardization of board shape in the last 20?
 
2018-10-11 02:29:12 AM  
Rugby Union. Professionalisation changed the shape of the athletes dramatically. It would genuinely be dangerous for the historical teams.
 
2018-10-11 03:00:26 AM  
Golf?  Even the best golfers from 50 years ago couldn't scratch the tour today.  Obviously there have been equipment advances, but the fitness levels and swing mechanics of the modern era changed it from a weekend hobby a few dudes were ok at into a competitive sport.  They could put down a pack of smokes and a fifth of bourbon faster than the guys today though.
 
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2018-10-11 03:16:10 AM  
Auto racing is not a sport; it's an engineering competition.

Basketball is the correct answer, but golf is a close second place.
 
2018-10-11 05:46:16 AM  
Women's Tennis, besides the size of the tennis racquets, compare the women playing now to the women in the 60's 

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2018-10-11 06:22:24 AM  
Martial Arts, UFC has been around for just under 30 years and it completely changed how we think of competitive fighting.  I think back to the movie Bloodsport and remember how I thought the big but fat white guy (Jackson) wouldn't stand a chance against anyone in the competition.  Turns out, he probably would have won the entire thing.
 
2018-10-11 06:27:41 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Martial arts competitions.

The emergence of a true mixed martial arts style put to rest the question of which martial art style is the best. None of them are as good as the combination of the best of all of them.

The fighters of the UFC today would handily beat the fighters of 50 years ago.


It would handily beat fighters of 20 years ago, in 1998 the wrestling/jujitsu specialists  were still dominating the sport.

And it's not even a combination of all martial arts.  It's a completely breakdown of what isn't effective and reorganized into two basic categories, wrestling and striking.
 
2018-10-11 07:16:11 AM  
I would love to see NASCAR do a throwback race with 70's technology, and see what happens.
 
2018-10-11 08:30:58 AM  

Gulper Eel: I would love to see NASCAR do a throwback race with 70's technology, and see what happens.


Brian the Lesser can keep his diaper and ba back bottle.
 
2018-10-11 09:53:05 AM  

blender61: The answer of course is NASCAR Rally, Moto GP. road racing.

Nascar is a joke.
A car covered in sponsor stickers and they still can't afford some rain tires.
They can't even manage to navigate a road course with any predictability. They have no more of a clue than a drunken lumbering hippo.

I'm not saying that what they do doesn't take talent, skill and determination. It does.
It's just that the skill set they possess as drivers is extremely limited.


Note: I am not a NASCAR fan, in fact you could almost say I dislike it. 

NASCAR drivers are actually pretty damn good, you or I could not sit down in one of those cars and just drive them. First of all the tech they use is incredibly old, as in no power steering, no abs, no traction control. They are fairly heavy and pretty sensitive to road conditions because they are light and have no real active aero so they sorta float. They are loud, hot and you have to sit for hours in the same position and drive through that. 

This comment also applies to the guy that said they should go to 70's tech. They are there
 
2018-10-11 10:00:58 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: the unabomber was right: The correct answer is skateboarding.

I feel it's stagnated since the turn of the century. Which is not to say that the athletes today aren't extremely talented, but the tricks they do now were done 20 years ago.

Going back 50 years, absolutely, but has there really been a major evolution except the standardization of board shape in the last 20?


Ramps. Ramp tech has changed a LOT over the last 10 years with the invention of soft catch ramps and airbag landings for training, so you are seeing an evolution there. Street skateboarding hasn't changed much though, in fact I'd argue it's gone backwards since the Mullen days.

Physical sports have all changed. We are specializing in sport when 50 years ago many pro athletes were still working day jobs to supplement their careers. Our training methods, equipment and even nutrition and pharmacology have changed a TON. We are nearly the limits of human performance in some sports, and we'll continue to reach towards that limit and push it further out (to a point).

It might actually be easier to pick out which sports have changed the least.
 
2018-10-11 10:09:15 AM  
Its hard to kick somebody's ass after he puts you into the wall and you are forced to go get your head examined in the infield hospital.
 
2018-10-11 10:15:02 AM  
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2018-10-11 10:49:09 AM  
Alpinism/Rock Climbing

Contrast Harding's 45 day (!) aid climb first ascent to Lynn Hill's sub 24 hour free climb is truly a quantum leap. Then there's Alex.....

Same goes for Alpinism going from multi day siege style to climbs measured in hours. Ueli Steck soloing the Eiger north face in under 3 hours compared to 3 days....

This is for sure due to some of the improvements in gear (sticky rubber, modern ice tools, dynamic ropes...) but is more due to psychological changes in climbers, in my opinion.
 
2018-10-11 10:51:02 AM  

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Nobody has come close to 30 wins in a season in 50 years.

As for NASCAR, the driver's aren't improving, the cars and the tracks are.


Baseball went from a 4 day pitching cycle to a 5 day pitching cycle.  Instead of letting guys pitch until their arms fell off they now have pitch counts.  To hit 30 wins, a guy would need to get the W in at least 90% of his starts today instead of 65% back in the 60s.  Ted Williams would not hit .400 in today's MLB.

Today's NFL would clobber teams from 50 years ago.  Seriously, the 2018 Browns would crush the 1974 Dolphins.  They're bigger, faster, stronger.  Offensive and defensive schemes are far more complex.  Heck, the top college football teams of today could go head to head with the '74 fish.
 
2018-10-11 11:52:38 AM  
Basketball.

It's true that football players have become bigger and stronger by orders magnitude, but they're still basically playing the same game. But today's basketball players do things that those earlier players wouldn't even recognize much less be able to do themselves. Wilt Chamberlain was the most dominant player of his era and for good reason but if rookie Wilt Chamberlain were drafted today, he might not even get picked in the first round.
 
2018-10-11 12:11:22 PM  
Babe Ruth would only be a pitcher, and probably a mid-level minor leaguer at that.
 
2018-10-11 12:12:44 PM  

NewWorldDan: CruiserTwelve: [img.fark.net image 260x313]
Nobody has come close to 30 wins in a season in 50 years.

As for NASCAR, the driver's aren't improving, the cars and the tracks are.

Baseball went from a 4 day pitching cycle to a 5 day pitching cycle.  Instead of letting guys pitch until their arms fell off they now have pitch counts.  To hit 30 wins, a guy would need to get the W in at least 90% of his starts today instead of 65% back in the 60s.  Ted Williams would not hit .400 in today's MLB.

Today's NFL would clobber teams from 50 years ago.  Seriously, the 2018 Browns would crush the 1974 Dolphins.  They're bigger, faster, stronger.  Offensive and defensive schemes are far more complex.  Heck, the top college football teams of today could go head to head with the '74 fish.


The only way a modern player hits .400 is if they go back to counting walks as hits.
 
2018-10-11 12:36:13 PM  

etoof: Babe Ruth would only be a pitcher, and probably a mid-level minor leaguer at that.


Someone with Ruth's abilities (relative to the norms of the day) would never pitch a game in the majors. He almost certainly would have abandoned pitching in the minors. That probably would have been the case fifty years ago to.
 
2018-10-11 12:59:19 PM  
If a 300 pound drunk dude can win, it's probably not a sport. Pipe down in back NASCAR and pga.
 
2018-10-11 01:02:55 PM  

dywed88: etoof: Babe Ruth would only be a pitcher, and probably a mid-level minor leaguer at that.

Someone with Ruth's abilities (relative to the norms of the day) would never pitch a game in the majors. He almost certainly would have abandoned pitching in the minors. That probably would have been the case fifty years ago to.


Agreed. However, I don't think he could hit today's pitching, especially with the bat weight he used.

Nothing against Ruth, he was spectacular in his time, but he would be a low-to-middle of the pack player these days. I'd guess that he would have fewer than 200 career home runs if he had to face today's pitching.

That being said, he could easily be a top player given the nutrition and training available to modern players.
 
2018-10-11 01:05:28 PM  

Snapper Carr: Basketball.

It's true that football players have become bigger and stronger by orders magnitude, but they're still basically playing the same game. But today's basketball players do things that those earlier players wouldn't even recognize much less be able to do themselves. Wilt Chamberlain was the most dominant player of his era and for good reason but if rookie Wilt Chamberlain were drafted today, he might not even get picked in the first round.


This is the dumbest take in the thread.

How many 7-footers can run a 49 second quarter mile and 1:58 half mile in high school? Had the 3-point line existed in Wilt's day he would've used it for layups!
 
2018-10-11 01:07:55 PM  

NewWorldDan: Today's NFL would clobber teams from 50 years ago. Seriously, the 2018 Browns would crush the 1974 Dolphins. They're bigger, faster, stronger. Offensive and defensive schemes are far more complex. Heck, the top college football teams of today could go head to head with the '74 fish


Even last year's Patriots would be able to pick apart the 1985 Bears and their 3-4 Defense.
 
2018-10-11 01:08:56 PM  

etoof: dywed88: etoof: Babe Ruth would only be a pitcher, and probably a mid-level minor leaguer at that.

Someone with Ruth's abilities (relative to the norms of the day) would never pitch a game in the majors. He almost certainly would have abandoned pitching in the minors. That probably would have been the case fifty years ago to.

Agreed. However, I don't think he could hit today's pitching, especially with the bat weight he used.

Nothing against Ruth, he was spectacular in his time, but he would be a low-to-middle of the pack player these days. I'd guess that he would have fewer than 200 career home runs if he had to face today's pitching.

That being said, he could easily be a top player given the nutrition and training available to modern players.


1927 Yankees vs..... oh,..... 2018 Rays. Go.
 
2018-10-11 01:11:03 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: etoof: dywed88: etoof: Babe Ruth would only be a pitcher, and probably a mid-level minor leaguer at that.

Someone with Ruth's abilities (relative to the norms of the day) would never pitch a game in the majors. He almost certainly would have abandoned pitching in the minors. That probably would have been the case fifty years ago to.

Agreed. However, I don't think he could hit today's pitching, especially with the bat weight he used.

Nothing against Ruth, he was spectacular in his time, but he would be a low-to-middle of the pack player these days. I'd guess that he would have fewer than 200 career home runs if he had to face today's pitching.

That being said, he could easily be a top player given the nutrition and training available to modern players.

1927 Yankees vs..... oh,..... 2018 Rays. Go.


Let's stick with Pro team versus Pro team.
 
2018-10-11 01:23:12 PM  

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2018-10-11 01:23:28 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: NewWorldDan: Today's NFL would clobber teams from 50 years ago. Seriously, the 2018 Browns would crush the 1974 Dolphins. They're bigger, faster, stronger. Offensive and defensive schemes are far more complex. Heck, the top college football teams of today could go head to head with the '74 fish

Even last year's Patriots would be able to pick apart the 1985 Bears and their 3-4 Defense.


That's mostly because the bears would've been penalized 8 times for roughing the passer against Brady.

It's really hard to judge eras between football teams because of all the rules changed that have opened up the passing game over the years.

But having said that... If you look at the cover of the Super Bowl Shuffle album... Every single one of those guys look like a dad who should be out mowing the lawn on Sunday as opposed to the literal monster bodies that NFL players have today.
 
2018-10-11 01:25:01 PM  
Jimmie Johnson would kick Richard Petty's ass

1968 Richard Petty in Johnson's 2018 car would be just as competitive now as he was then.  The driver is essentially ballast.
 
2018-10-11 01:28:37 PM  
I'm going with Motocross. 50 years ago nobody needed to train because the bikes wouldn't last the race if you rode them to hard. Now MXr's are some of the best conditioned athletes in the world. Joël Robert wouldn't have made it more than a couple of laps on one of today's bikes.
 
2018-10-11 01:38:38 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: NewWorldDan: Today's NFL would clobber teams from 50 years ago. Seriously, the 2018 Browns would crush the 1974 Dolphins. They're bigger, faster, stronger. Offensive and defensive schemes are far more complex. Heck, the top college football teams of today could go head to head with the '74 fish

Even last year's Patriots would be able to pick apart the 1985 Bears and their 3-4 Defense.


Which era's rules are we using?

The thought of Wilber Marshall giving Brady a 1985-style hit is...either intriguing or scary depending on how much you worship Da Bears or despise Brady.
 
2018-10-11 01:39:09 PM  

blender61: The answer of course is NASCAR Rally, Moto GP. road racing.

Nascar is a joke.
A car covered in sponsor stickers and they still can't afford some rain tires.
They can't even manage to navigate a road course with any predictability. They have no more of a clue than a drunken lumbering hippo.

I'm not saying that what they do doesn't take talent, skill and determination. It does.
It's just that the skill set they possess as drivers is extremely limited.


Because all those guys from other forms of racing have come in and just dominated in NASCAR.

Goddamn you're an idiot.
 
2018-10-11 01:44:12 PM  

Gulper Eel: OtherLittleGuy: NewWorldDan: Today's NFL would clobber teams from 50 years ago. Seriously, the 2018 Browns would crush the 1974 Dolphins. They're bigger, faster, stronger. Offensive and defensive schemes are far more complex. Heck, the top college football teams of today could go head to head with the '74 fish

Even last year's Patriots would be able to pick apart the 1985 Bears and their 3-4 Defense.

Which era's rules are we using?

The thought of Wilber Marshall giving Brady a 1985-style hit is...either intriguing or scary depending on how much you worship Da Bears or despise Brady.


Assuming he can get to Brady through much more capable offensive linemen while the coverage team is getting easily beaten by every receiver.
 
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