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2018-10-10 01:33:15 PM  
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2018-10-10 08:23:13 PM  
Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?
 
2018-10-10 09:16:26 PM  

nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?


Also, alot of the stat they are highlighting has more to do with the O line than anything else.
 
2018-10-10 09:34:40 PM  

nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?


baron von doodle: nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?

Also, alot of the stat they are highlighting has more to do with the O line than anything else.


Pretty much. Rivers masked a lot of flaws the Chargers had over the years as he was running for his life almost every game.
 
2018-10-10 09:35:47 PM  
I'm waiting for the Josh Allen sacks Josh Allen next year and beyond.

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2018-10-10 09:42:17 PM  
At this point, Josh Allen would be better off just throwing the ball out of bounds when he's pressured than trying to hit his receivers

What receivers? You mean Kelvin Benjamin (aka Slow Man Brick Hands) or Zay Jones (aka Small Man Brick Hands) or...whoever the hell else makes up our receiving corp? 

Those aren't receivers.
 
2018-10-10 10:24:09 PM  
In fairness, that's still better than Nathan Peterman's rating when playing with a CLEAN pocket, so he has a zero chance of losing his job.
 
2018-10-10 10:52:01 PM  

nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?


Using Superbowl wins alone to judge a quarterback's abilities is almost as solid of a stat as using wins/losses to judge a pitcher.
 
2018-10-11 12:03:20 AM  

meanmutton: nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?

Using Superbowl wins alone to judge a quarterback's abilities is almost as solid of a stat as using wins/losses to judge a pitcher.


Your profile says Detroit. I'll be honest, I'm coming up empty on what QB might have you arguing from your heart rather than your head.
 
2018-10-11 01:10:03 AM  

BlazeTrailer: meanmutton: nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?

Using Superbowl wins alone to judge a quarterback's abilities is almost as solid of a stat as using wins/losses to judge a pitcher.

Your profile says Detroit. I'll be honest, I'm coming up empty on what QB might have you arguing from your heart rather than your head.


It's not the total QB package, but both Manning's Denver SB and Roethlisburger's first SB were on the backs of insane D play (hell that's probably true of half the SBs won *cough*eli*cough*).  Neither Raven's QB really won them the SB, though Falco at least rocked Denver's pass coverage.
 
2018-10-11 06:23:38 AM  

BlazeTrailer: meanmutton: nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?

Using Superbowl wins alone to judge a quarterback's abilities is almost as solid of a stat as using wins/losses to judge a pitcher.

Your profile says Detroit. I'll be honest, I'm coming up empty on what QB might have you arguing from your heart rather than your head.


Marino for one, Jim Kelly (1st ballot HoFer) for another, but also to a great degree Rogers.  Is he 'only' as good as Flacco or Dilfer?  I get a touch of impression that you're arguing against the idea that a QB who hasn't won a SB can still be good, for whatever motivation.
 
2018-10-11 07:02:43 AM  

phimuskapsi: At this point, Josh Allen would be better off just throwing the ball out of bounds when he's pressured than trying to hit his receivers

What receivers? You mean Kelvin Benjamin (aka Slow Man Brick Hands) or Zay Jones (aka Small Man Brick Hands) or...whoever the hell else makes up our receiving corp? 

Those aren't receivers.


That's really unfair to Benjamin.  He's got great hands.  Have you seen him carry two plates through Golden Corral?
 
2018-10-11 07:36:25 AM  
Anyone who thinks Super Bowl rings are indicative of a QB's quality is too dumb to understand sports.

...and is therefore probably a sports radio host.
 
2018-10-11 07:39:38 AM  

baron von doodle: nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?

Also, alot of the stat they are highlighting has more to do with the O line than anything else.


The O line affects how much pressure there is but they don't affect what the QB does when under pressure
 
2018-10-11 08:26:37 AM  
2 things:

1. Carr still has PTSD. He has not mentally recovered from the broken leg. It was amazing to see him run around scared for his very life during the Eagles/Raiders game at the end of last year.

2. Yay Kirk! Too many fumbles to say he is playing the best in the league... so far that is the only complaint I have at all for this dude. Very pleased with the purchase so far though. Diggs and Thielen are making great catches when the pass isn't perfect and Kirk is making great throws that no other QB has done around here since Favre as well. Being 2-2-1 is on the Defense not stopping people consistently and special teams (people like to remember the kicker and forget the blocked punt in Green Bay). And not one player showing up to the Bills game. We made that game up with the Eagles win, yet we COULD be 3-1-1 if we hadn't shiat ourselves. But shiat ourselves we did.
 
2018-10-11 11:56:45 AM  

baron von doodle: nmrsnr: Yeah, that stat really correlates with success. I mean, just look at how many superbowls *checks list* Philip Rivers has seen?

Also, alot of the stat they are highlighting has more to do with the O line than anything else.


And receivers capable of getting separation two things the bills don't have
 
2018-10-11 12:28:14 PM  

Wadded Beef: Rivers masked a lot of flaws the Chargers had over the years as he was running plodding like a baby giraffe for his life almost every game.


Rivers has a lot of good qualities. Mobility out of the pocket is not one of them.
 
2018-10-11 12:42:58 PM  

BKITU: Wadded Beef: Rivers masked a lot of flaws the Chargers had over the years as he was running plodding like a baby giraffe for his life almost every game.

Rivers has a lot of good qualities. Mobility out of the pocket is not one of them.


It is fun to watch him plod, yes.
 
2018-10-11 12:44:52 PM  

IAmRight: Anyone who thinks Super Bowl rings are indicative of a QB's quality is too dumb to understand sports.


This. By that metric, Trent Dilfer is superior to Jim Kelly and Dan Marino.
 
2018-10-11 12:49:00 PM  

IAmRight: Anyone who thinks Super Bowl rings are indicative of a QB's quality is too dumb to understand sports.

...and is therefore probably a sports radio host.


I see the point you're making, but to imply there's no correlation at all is an even more irresponsible conclusion.

Trent Dilfer was like 20 years ago, and his defense was historically great.  He's an outlier, not the norm.
 
2018-10-11 01:51:23 PM  
What Mahomes?
 
2018-10-11 06:48:09 PM  

T.rex: IAmRight: Anyone who thinks Super Bowl rings are indicative of a QB's quality is too dumb to understand sports.

...and is therefore probably a sports radio host.

I see the point you're making, but to imply there's no correlation at all is an even more irresponsible conclusion.

Trent Dilfer was like 20 years ago, and his defense was historically great.  He's an outlier, not the norm.


Football is a team sport, and thus requires a complete team to get to the Super Bowl. You can have the best QB in the land and still not make it to the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl. It helps a lot, sure, but there are plenty of examples of teams making it there despite the QB too, Flacco is a good example of that, the Ravens were carried by their defense several years.
 
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