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(Altoona Mirror)   Vodak, rum may soon cover town streets. Actually, TFA is pretty interesting if you ever had a chipped windshield or slid on black ice   ( altoonamirror.com) divider line
    More: Cool, Ton, Borough, salt, Smith, council members, Snow, potential salt shortage, Monday Borough Council  
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2018-10-10 05:24:23 PM  
Oh good, now I'll actually be able to give people a reason when they see me licking the road.
 
2018-10-10 10:32:33 PM  
Nice ad
 
2018-10-10 10:34:30 PM  
So it's a pile of the crap leftover once the distilling is done? Hey, if it's cheap because nobody else wants it and it makes roads safer, great. I do wonder though, whether it will attract wildlife. They love to lick up salt and adding sugar (calories!) to the mix might mean people will be dodging winter-starved deer and such.
 
2018-10-10 10:35:28 PM  
Mr. Douglas, have I got a deal for you...
 
2018-10-10 10:35:45 PM  
Plus, it has electrolytes.
 
2018-10-10 10:40:01 PM  
A couple years ago we saw a few stories about leftover cheesemaking brine (I'm presuming from mozzarella production, the articles never really said) being used for snow melting on roads. Having been in about a dozen mozz factories and therefore being aware of how bad that stuff smelled when it gets into your clothes, I thought it was a bad idea. Many carpets would be ruined if that stuff got tracked into houses on peoples' feet.

So, about this distillery waste -- how badly does it stink after it's sat in warehouses for a few months?
 
2018-10-10 10:40:52 PM  
I'm not paying for this. What have the roads ever done for me?
 
2018-10-10 10:41:17 PM  
As long as it's booze on fire, hold my beer.
 
2018-10-10 10:51:16 PM  
I feel so much safer now thanks.
 
2018-10-10 11:02:28 PM  

guestguy: Oh good, now I'll actually be able to give people a reason when they see me licking the road.


Just add it to your window cleaner, and nobody will be able to tell there's anything different about you.

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2018-10-10 11:05:54 PM  
Uhm, have they clearly demonstrated the effectiveness of this treatment?  before getting a city contract because I'm not buying into it.

The fundamental principles are there I just think it's worth jack shiat
 
2018-10-10 11:11:25 PM  

berylman: Uhm, have they clearly demonstrated the effectiveness of this treatment?  before getting a city contract because I'm not buying into it.

The fundamental principles are there I just think it's worth jack shiat


North Haverbrook and Ogdenville use it.
 
2018-10-10 11:12:40 PM  
He forget to mention that it also cures cancer.
 
2018-10-10 11:14:26 PM  

Marksrevenge: So it's a pile of the crap leftover once the distilling is done? Hey, if it's cheap because nobody else wants it and it makes roads safer, great. I do wonder though, whether it will attract wildlife. They love to lick up salt and adding sugar (calories!) to the mix might mean people will be dodging winter-starved deer and such.


Added sugar, great, now the deerzez will get the diabeetus.
 
2018-10-10 11:14:48 PM  

mattgsx: North Haverbrook and Ogdenville use it.


If it's distillery waste I see no harm in it. Have 0 first hand experience
 
2018-10-10 11:17:53 PM  
"What's beneficial out of this is the sugars,"

"It takes eight gallons of Ice B' Gone spray to treat a ton of salt, and the treatment costs $4.08 per gallon "

So what happens if you use, say Coke or Sprite
 
2018-10-10 11:25:52 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: "What's beneficial out of this is the sugars,"

"It takes eight gallons of Ice B' Gone spray to treat a ton of salt, and the treatment costs $4.08 per gallon "

So what happens if you use, say Coke or Sprite


It costs a lot more.
 
2018-10-10 11:26:42 PM  

Marksrevenge: people will be dodging winter-starved deer and such


*Drunk* winter-starved deer.
 
2018-10-10 11:33:43 PM  

RogermcAllen: Vlad_the_Inaner: "What's beneficial out of this is the sugars,"

"It takes eight gallons of Ice B' Gone spray to treat a ton of salt, and the treatment costs $4.08 per gallon "

So what happens if you use, say Coke or Sprite

It costs a lot more.


You can't buy two 2 liter bottles of soda for $4?  Geeze, get a Sam's Club membership
 
2018-10-10 11:42:41 PM  
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2018-10-11 12:02:06 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: RogermcAllen: Vlad_the_Inaner: "What's beneficial out of this is the sugars,"

"It takes eight gallons of Ice B' Gone spray to treat a ton of salt, and the treatment costs $4.08 per gallon "

So what happens if you use, say Coke or Sprite

It costs a lot more.

You can't buy two 2 liter bottles of soda for $4?  Geeze, get a Sam's Club membership


I know you're making jokes, but you inspired me to look it up:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4​6​76918A/

The product is actually a blend of salts, surfactant (soap), and the brewing waste.  Interestingly, the protein in the waste actually looks to be an important part of how it works.  Soda doesn't have protein.
 
2018-10-11 12:26:25 AM  
So now drunk drivers have and excuse when the cop that pulls them over smells booze?
 
2018-10-11 12:29:42 AM  

RogermcAllen: Vlad_the_Inaner: RogermcAllen: Vlad_the_Inaner: "What's beneficial out of this is the sugars,"

"It takes eight gallons of Ice B' Gone spray to treat a ton of salt, and the treatment costs $4.08 per gallon "

So what happens if you use, say Coke or Sprite

It costs a lot more.

You can't buy two 2 liter bottles of soda for $4?  Geeze, get a Sam's Club membership

I know you're making jokes, but you inspired me to look it up:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US46​76918A/

The product is actually a blend of salts, surfactant (soap), and the brewing waste.  Interestingly, the protein in the waste actually looks to be an important part of how it works.  Soda doesn't have protein.


So how much is Vegimite in bulk?

/you can probably dilute it
 
2018-10-11 12:42:39 AM  

mattgsx: berylman: Uhm, have they clearly demonstrated the effectiveness of this treatment?  before getting a city contract because I'm not buying into it.

The fundamental principles are there I just think it's worth jack shiat

North Haverbrook and Ogdenville use it.


Yeah.  It does sound more like something Shelbyville would be interested in, too.
 
2018-10-11 12:50:14 AM  
Wake me up when it's whisyk season.
 
2018-10-11 12:53:37 AM  
The salt wasn't enough? Great. So now my rusty heap of a car is also going to get the diabetes.
 
2018-10-11 01:17:41 AM  
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2018-10-11 01:42:28 AM  

Murflette: Nice ad


Leaning towards this..hail corporate, the company is mentioned exactly 7 times
 
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2018-10-11 01:59:23 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: "What's beneficial out of this is the sugars,"

"It takes eight gallons of Ice B' Gone spray to treat a ton of salt, and the treatment costs $4.08 per gallon "

So what happens if you use, say Coke or Sprite


...and a twist of citrus for zazz!
 
2018-10-11 02:50:10 AM  

joepennerlives: mattgsx: berylman: Uhm, have they clearly demonstrated the effectiveness of this treatment?  before getting a city contract because I'm not buying into it.

The fundamental principles are there I just think it's worth jack shiat

North Haverbrook and Ogdenville use it.

Yeah.  It does sound more like something Shelbyville would be interested in, too.


I thought Ogdenville sounded familiar, but I was thinking of Ogdensburg, which is a real place (actually two real places). There's also a "North Haverhill".
 
2018-10-11 03:32:26 AM  
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2018-10-11 04:40:07 AM  
This article is what results when you distill over-enthusiastic marketing over the flames of journalistic ignorance; the result is entirely unpotable and indigestible.

Distilling "left-overs" could be high-methanol first runnings, or remnant sludge in the still; I doubt methanol would be much use directly (although I am not an "expert", clearly (ha!)), but the sludge could be, BUT the salesman refers to "sugar" which shouldn't really make it into the still.

That "sugar" is probably referring to the spent beet - will still be sugar left in the beet mass, and lots of fibrous material, so could work well - but wouldn't it be horribly sticky? And the pong - would whiff to high heaven. Maybe mixing it with the methanol, and then the salt, act as preservatives?

"Smith explained that the sugars help to increase the salt's effectiveness while also making it more resilient."

"help to increase" not correct, but may further depress freezing point. I confess I can't remember the detailed science, but I would like to see scientific proof that such a salt+sugar mix in practice reduces freezing point below that of salt alone.

"To further sell his product, Smith also told council members that Ice B' Gone would lower salt's corrosiveness, prolonging vehicle life and lessening maintenance time and costs."

Doubtless he has paid for "experts" to corroborate these claims scientifically...
 
2018-10-11 05:24:05 AM  
Anthony Scalia, a PennDOT spokesman, said he also could not comment on the Ice B' Gone treatment.

No one is going to mention the zombie who left SCOTUS to work at PennDOT?! Scary tag is gearing up.
 
2018-10-11 05:59:27 AM  
I'm guessing the remnants from distilling are pretty nasty chemicals. So if those go on the roads and it rains and they get into rivers/gardens/farmland etc..?
 
2018-10-11 06:23:02 AM  
Use the vodak and give me the rum.
 
2018-10-11 08:01:45 AM  
I wish they'd just use something that'd completely replace salt. Stuff's hell on vehicles. Though, it's better than it used to be. Instead of rusting the subframe AND the body, now it just rusts the subframe. That way your car still looks decent as its structural integrity during handling maneuvers disappears.
 
2018-10-11 08:22:55 AM  
Is it time for the annual carbohydrate treated salt story?  My how time flies.
 
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