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(Politico)   How does one expert explain one state's online voter registration system? "A mess"   ( politico.com) divider line
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2018-10-10 10:34:28 AM  
I explain it this way: "By design."

/Disenfranchisement takes effort, y'all!
 
2018-10-10 02:58:31 PM  
I know that if Democrats get control of one or both Houses there will be a temptation to indulge in an orgy of inquiries into the various corrupt activities of the current Administration, but it would be way smarter to put most of their efforts into reforming the voting system.

The cynical and shameless GOP voter suppression tactics are unparalleled in Western democracy. Start with a public inquiry into the ways they have done that.

Legislate to replace gerrymandering with non-partisan algorithm based commissions, return to supervision of states with proven racist laws, set nationwide standards for voter enrolment and ID, mandate formula for how many election booths provided, investigate and prosecute those who have conspired to restrict voting, make voting day a public holiday.
 
2018-10-10 06:07:12 PM  
Late Monday, Detzner issued a directive to slightly extend voter registration in the 35 counties that have declared a state of emergency and where the elections offices closed due to the storm.


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2018-10-10 09:00:28 PM  
Online voter registration, you say? I guess it's not in Texas.
 
2018-10-10 09:06:57 PM  
I can register to vote so easily, I kinda assumed everyone's state is the same.

/of course, this is not the case.
 
2018-10-10 09:08:08 PM  

mjjt: Legislate to replace gerrymandering with non-partisan algorithm based commissions, return to supervision of states with proven racist laws, set nationwide standards for voter enrolment and ID, mandate formula for how many election booths provided, investigate and prosecute those who have conspired to restrict voting, make voting day a public holiday.


The crazy thing is that the law which would need to be passed (the Voting Rights Act) already exists. It just needs to be passed by Congress in a manner that the GOP-controlled Supreme Court says is okay.
 
2018-10-10 09:09:53 PM  
Why isn't there a best practices for elections? If Diebold is able to provide a solid online registration and voting system, then why not license their stuff?
 
2018-10-10 09:11:50 PM  
The current state of things may suck, but if we had federal standards for registering voters and counting votes, that would be tyranny. You don't want tyranny, do you subby? Better we have 50 different systems, even if a good portion of them don't work very well. It's not like this is about anything important.
 
2018-10-10 09:12:40 PM  
It's so bizarre to me, that anyone has difficulty "registering to vote." It's one of those things I have trouble comprehending, like people who can't swim, or read.

Seriously, it takes five minutes, the forms are at the post office or the library, the DMV or online. I've moved from city to city, state to state, and never NOT been registered to vote. It's not something that expires or wears out, either.

To hear people tell it, you'd think it took a DNA test, a pint of blood, six sworn affidavits from one's immediate ancestors, and a payoff in gold to the warlord of the Seven Tribes...WHO are all these people having so much trouble getting registered?
 
2018-10-10 09:12:55 PM  
Gawd this makes me feel ill *proceeds to liquor cabinet* This is how democracy is intentionally subverted.
Oh sorry the machines are malfunctioning, the polling place is closed and you have to go across town, moose outside should have told you so, your ID does not appear on the register, we're out of pencils. And don't get me even started on telephone voting apps... g'damn where's the Tylenol *Christmas vacation rant*
 
2018-10-10 09:13:26 PM  

Gyrfalcon: It's so bizarre to me, that anyone has difficulty "registering to vote." It's one of those things I have trouble comprehending, like people who can't swim, or read.

Seriously, it takes five minutes, the forms are at the post office or the library, the DMV or online. I've moved from city to city, state to state, and never NOT been registered to vote. It's not something that expires or wears out, either.

To hear people tell it, you'd think it took a DNA test, a pint of blood, six sworn affidavits from one's immediate ancestors, and a payoff in gold to the warlord of the Seven Tribes...WHO are all these people having so much trouble getting registered?


The same people who would be disenfranchised if they were expected to bring ID to the polling booth.
 
2018-10-10 09:13:38 PM  

hissatsu: The current state of things may suck, but if we had federal standards for registering voters and counting votes, that would be tyranny. You don't want tyranny, do you subby? Better we have 50 different systems, even if a good portion of them don't work very well. It's not like this is about anything important.


Ahhh states...

The laboratories of anti-democracy...
 
2018-10-10 09:20:45 PM  
Also improve physical and digital security of all device in the voting process.
 
2018-10-10 09:23:11 PM  
Maybe you should hire Amazon to run it.
 
2018-10-10 09:26:01 PM  
I vote absentee. So easy. You sign up, they mail me a ballot (I have it already), fill it out, mail it in or drop it off.
I photograph mine before I seal the envelope.
If I don't get a ballot in the mail, I have a month to get it straightened out.

I wish there was a way to verify they counted my vote accurately.
 
2018-10-10 09:27:32 PM  

Gyrfalcon: It's so bizarre to me, that anyone has difficulty "registering to vote." It's one of those things I have trouble comprehending, like people who can't swim, or read.

Seriously, it takes five minutes, the forms are at the post office or the library, the DMV or online. I've moved from city to city, state to state, and never NOT been registered to vote. It's not something that expires or wears out, either.

To hear people tell it, you'd think it took a DNA test, a pint of blood, six sworn affidavits from one's immediate ancestors, and a payoff in gold to the warlord of the Seven Tribes...WHO are all these people having so much trouble getting registered?


Might be easy where you live.  But some places there are a lot of issues that come up to make sure only on the correct people get to vote.  Things like not being able to register on the same day of the Election.  Or having a photo ID, when there is a fee to get one.  You would be amazed at the steps some politicians would take, to prevent people from voting.

If they can register everyone for the Draft when people  turn 18, why do they not register everyone to vote at the same time?
 
2018-10-10 09:34:43 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Gyrfalcon: It's so bizarre to me, that anyone has difficulty "registering to vote." It's one of those things I have trouble comprehending, like people who can't swim, or read.

Seriously, it takes five minutes, the forms are at the post office or the library, the DMV or online. I've moved from city to city, state to state, and never NOT been registered to vote. It's not something that expires or wears out, either.

To hear people tell it, you'd think it took a DNA test, a pint of blood, six sworn affidavits from one's immediate ancestors, and a payoff in gold to the warlord of the Seven Tribes...WHO are all these people having so much trouble getting registered?

The same people who would be disenfranchised if they were expected to bring ID to the polling booth.


Let's say your grandma doesn't drive anymore. So she let's her drivers license lapse..

Now, shes angry and wants to vote.

In some states, Texas for example, she has to go to her county of birth to request a birth certificate  and then provide that to register..

People have been told for so long that 1 vote doesn't matter, so they don't bother to go through the process.

Or, in Florida, Rick Scott has to approve the restoration of voting rights for felons who served their time. He held hears what... A couple times a year and approved like... 18? Often rejected for little or no reason. 1 in 4 black males in Florida have been convincted of a crime. That's a pretty big voting block that would typically lean Democrat that you can just stamp out... Which he did. And oh look .. Now he's running for senate against a Democrat .

It's all a damn game and some people are tired of jumping through hoops. shiat, I wonder if it's easier to buy a gun?
 
2018-10-10 09:48:43 PM  

Karate Explosion: Or, in Florida, Rick Scott has to approve the restoration of voting rights for felons who served their time.


That's actually on the ballot this time so it's not up to him (already voted by mail).
 
2018-10-10 09:52:00 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Why isn't there a best practices for elections? If Diebold is able to provide a solid online registration and voting system, then why not license their stuff?


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2018-10-10 09:58:05 PM  

Karate Explosion: It's all a damn game and some people are tired of jumping through hoops. shiat, I wonder if it's easier to buy a gun?


In Florida, it's probably easier to buy a gun and kill people claiming Stand Your Ground than it is to register to vote.

I'm not joking.
 
2018-10-10 10:03:44 PM  
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2018-10-10 10:09:55 PM  

imauniter: I vote absentee. So easy. You sign up, they mail me a ballot (I have it already), fill it out, mail it in or drop it off.
I photograph mine before I seal the envelope.
If I don't get a ballot in the mail, I have a month to get it straightened out.

I wish there was a way to verify they counted my vote accurately.


Voting by mail is nice, but in some states you're only allowed to do so for "legitimate" absentee reasons. I live close to my polling place, but I still kinda miss it.
 
2018-10-11 12:00:27 AM  

fatalvenom: Karate Explosion: It's all a damn game and some people are tired of jumping through hoops. shiat, I wonder if it's easier to buy a gun?

In Florida, it's probably easier to buy a gun and kill people claiming Stand Your Ground than it is to register to vote.

I'm not joking.


Okay, please tell me what's so hard, because I just registered to vote here (well, in 2016 when I moved here), and I found I no harder than any other procedure.

When I went to the DMV for my new drivers license, I filled out my voter registration at the same time. In it went, and I've voted ever since. Registered Democrat.

I understand that there are hoops to be jumped; but if one is not a felon, what are they? What are the difficulties I've missed? I want to help, truly I do...but I really don't see the problem of registering.

VOTING, yes, when the poll issues are so insane....but registering not so much.
 
2018-10-11 12:26:21 AM  

imauniter: I wish there was a way to verify they counted my vote accurately.


There is, you call a number or something. I don't know exactly how but there is a a procedure to verify the accuracy of your vote.
 
2018-10-11 01:01:03 AM  

Mugato: imauniter: I wish there was a way to verify they counted my vote accurately.

There is, you call a number or something. I don't know exactly how but there is a a procedure to verify the accuracy of your vote.


Thanks. I'll hit the Google in the morning. I'm going to bed now since I just got my first twitter timeout. I was being bad.
 
2018-10-11 01:04:33 AM  

Gyrfalcon: fatalvenom: Karate Explosion: It's all a damn game and some people are tired of jumping through hoops. shiat, I wonder if it's easier to buy a gun?

In Florida, it's probably easier to buy a gun and kill people claiming Stand Your Ground than it is to register to vote.

I'm not joking.

Okay, please tell me what's so hard, because I just registered to vote here (well, in 2016 when I moved here), and I found I no harder than any other procedure.

When I went to the DMV for my new drivers license, I filled out my voter registration at the same time. In it went, and I've voted ever since. Registered Democrat.

I understand that there are hoops to be jumped; but if one is not a felon, what are they? What are the difficulties I've missed? I want to help, truly I do...but I really don't see the problem of registering.

VOTING, yes, when the poll issues are so insane....but registering not so much.


Getting that new DL was a pain in the ass. I had to hunt a birth certificate and about 5 other documents before I got my star. Don't remember what it took to register, I did that way back in high school when I registered for selective service
 
2018-10-11 01:08:15 AM  

Xyzzyka: imauniter: I vote absentee. So easy. You sign up, they mail me a ballot (I have it already), fill it out, mail it in or drop it off.
I photograph mine before I seal the envelope.
If I don't get a ballot in the mail, I have a month to get it straightened out.

I wish there was a way to verify they counted my vote accurately.

Voting by mail is nice, but in some states you're only allowed to do so for "legitimate" absentee reasons. I live close to my polling place, but I still kinda miss it.


Really, some clerk asks where you are going? Can they deny if you say Hedonism Resort Jamaca?
 
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