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2018-09-19 04:08:55 PM  
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2018-09-19 07:34:45 PM  
Climate change is making the Chinese worse.
 
2018-09-19 07:37:00 PM  
Between synthetic drugs and pollution we are doing quite a number to ourselves.

//the planet will live on
 
2018-09-19 07:37:02 PM  
I thought global warming was a myth and what we are seeing is just coastal erosion.
 
2018-09-19 07:37:23 PM  
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2018-09-19 07:38:21 PM  
Is that why it sputtered out instead of becoming "zomg worst ever!!!!!!" Before it hit land?
 
2018-09-19 07:38:23 PM  
Reposted from another Florence thread:

Here is the best existing estimate of how climate change to date affected Florence, made from a forecast 3 days before landfall.

tl;dr version:  relatively minor effects on storm track and intensity, but up to a 50% increase in precipitation in the heaviest rainfall areas.  This doesn't assess the change in frequency of Florence-like storms, but just the behavior of a Florence-like storm itself subject to background climate conditions like sea surface temperature.  Of course, these effects will become stronger as climate change continues.

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This is just about the hurricane itself, and doesn't account for the extra storm surge resulting from sea level rise.
 
2018-09-19 07:38:44 PM  
This is just fake news being reported from Al Gore's private 747?
 
2018-09-19 07:39:49 PM  
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2018-09-19 07:42:09 PM  

Carousel Beast: Is that why it sputtered out instead of becoming "zomg worst ever!!!!!!" Before it hit land?


the strength of a hurricane is only ever measured if it hits land.
 
2018-09-19 07:42:32 PM  
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2018-09-19 07:43:58 PM  
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Accumulated Cyclone Energy index
 
2018-09-19 07:44:01 PM  
Obviously.
 
2018-09-19 07:49:28 PM  
Ha!  Take that people who said I'd never accomplish anything!

/you're next, ozone
 
2018-09-19 07:50:56 PM  
We have more people. You know, humans have warm bodies. So is heat coming off?
 
2018-09-19 07:52:36 PM  
And what about the storms that aren't like Florence?

Deck chair, lifeguards!
 
2018-09-19 07:53:20 PM  
We have finally reached the stage where everyone accepts that the climate is changing.  Even the conservatives are on board with that now.  For the longest time, the best you heard from them was "Eh, it's a natural cycle".  They are finally starting to realize that the cycle is not working the way it usually does - or has over the course of history.

But they still will not accept that human activity has anything to do with it.  And they certainly don't have any interest in anything that might help slow it down.  That would affect their profits!!
 
2018-09-19 07:54:40 PM  
One of the interesting coincidences is that many of the areas that tend to get wrecked by weather disasters also tend to vote GOP. Weather gets worse due to increased chaos brought by climate change which then wreaks havoc and wrecks areas which vote GOP.

I really do feel for them. It's horrible to lose your home, your community, your sense of normalcy. These aren't just desserts. They're the failings of a civilization teetering on the edge of destroying itself, or at least destroying much of what it currently has.

The answer is we absolutely have to have more education, less animosity, politics has to be pared back from outright hostility to respectful disagreements, and we're going to have to pay for it as a society which means taxes.

Some of the more cynical posters have said that it's liberals who need to change. I've been standing here with open arms trying to reach out to conservatives. When somebody casually strolls by with a "FARK YOUR FEELINGS" t-shirt who ignores me or worse makes a rude gesture and/or comment there's really nothing I can do to reach that person. That person is gone from this world and gone from this civilization. Yet somehow I'm the villain.
 
2018-09-19 07:55:13 PM  
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Tried to tell you farkers
 
2018-09-19 07:56:32 PM  
I dunno about Hurricane Florence, but I have noticed that in my part of the world, global warming is almost always worse from about June through September.
 
2018-09-19 07:56:38 PM  
I'm buying lots of property in frozen northern Canada. It's where all the nicest beaches will be.
 
2018-09-19 07:57:04 PM  
durbnpoisn:

But they still will not accept that human activity has anything to do with it.  And they certainly don't have any interest in anything that might help slow it down.  That would affect their profits!!

That's a foregone conclusion when your entire ethos is based on being too frightened to change anything or look more than five minutes into the future.
 
2018-09-19 07:58:31 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I'm buying lots of property in frozen northern Canada. It's where all the nicest beaches will be.


While it may be true that they are certainly very nice and polite up there in the Canadian North, they really don't appreciate it when you call them beaches. That is just not a word to use in polite company.
 
2018-09-19 08:12:52 PM  

Carousel Beast: Is that why it sputtered out instead of becoming "zomg worst ever!!!!!!" Before it hit land?


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2018-09-19 08:27:09 PM  
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2018-09-19 08:37:04 PM  
Remember back when hurricanes always hit Florida instead of North Carolina?
 
2018-09-19 08:49:23 PM  

NephilimNexus: Remember back when hurricanes always hit Florida instead of North Carolina?


Remember when storms used to form way out in the Atlantic?  This year we had one form right off of NC.
 
2018-09-19 08:49:45 PM  
farking Trump destroys everything in his path.

/ Yet, he'll take credit for the economy.
// That is the definition of a farker.
 
2018-09-19 08:54:02 PM  
Repeat from last storm, and the storm before that, and the storm before that, and the storm before that, and the storm before that, etc.
 
2018-09-19 09:01:39 PM  
Come on, myth dragon, even us hicks in the midwest get it .  It did get cold  here last year, but it got a lot colder everywhere else.   I think what is convincing even the most stubborn here is the strength of the sun, course we will forget all about frying all summer if we get more than 2 inches of snow.
I look on the news the west coast is on fire and the east coast is underwater.   Not only that consider the wildfires in the Arctic circle, poor Canada on fire. Where are you gonna go.    I'd imagine people will have to become nomadic .    If you want to plan for the future, Antarctica, once the ice melts we will have a whole new continent to mess up.
 
2018-09-19 09:06:03 PM  

Ambitwistor: Reposted from another Florence thread:

Here is the best existing estimate of how climate change to date affected Florence, made from a forecast 3 days before landfall.

tl;dr version:  relatively minor effects on storm track and intensity, but up to a 50% increase in precipitation in the heaviest rainfall areas.  This doesn't assess the change in frequency of Florence-like storms, but just the behavior of a Florence-like storm itself subject to background climate conditions like sea surface temperature.  Of course, these effects will become stronger as climate change continues.

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This is just about the hurricane itself, and doesn't account for the extra storm surge resulting from sea level rise.


If the Blue line is the world without "human caused climate change" then why is it above the red line "real world forecast" on the intensity scale?  That would indicate that climate change from humans reduces the intensity not raise it.   Why no black line showing the actual observed events to compare how accurate either one of them is to reality?  They could both be completely wrong or made up.  What the fark is the "ensemble average central minimum surface pressure"?  That term and number are useless without further explanation or reference.
The direction it moves is changed more by high and low pressure systems than the intensity.  The "storm surge" is always much worse during a high tide than a low, so the gravitational pull of the moon is also a bigger factor then the intensity change attributed to human activity.  Those pretty charts are bad and you should feel bad for reposting that crap as scientific evidence of the affect of climate change by man.

\If your forecast is in "real-time" then it is from the future
 
2018-09-19 09:06:36 PM  

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Tried to tell you farkers


His problem wasn't that he was wrong, it's that he's terrible at messaging
 
2018-09-19 10:26:25 PM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: [ncdc.noaa.gov image 850x637]Accumulated Cyclone Energy index


Your chart actually proves climate change: If climate change wasn't happening, that flat red trend line would actually be yellow, maybe greenish, but not RED HOT.

Checkmate, HOAXTARDS.
 
2018-09-19 11:15:42 PM  
Jesus H Christ. This was a hiccup. Hugo was a Hurricane. Andrew was a hurricane. This was rain. Katrina was only slightly worse.

/Don't like floods? Build your sh*thole city above sea level.
//Love New Orleans. However I'm glad the Saints' little building still smells like nutria sh*t and poor people.
 
2018-09-20 12:02:24 AM  
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2018-09-20 12:32:09 AM  

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2018-09-20 08:44:11 AM  
The "researchers" need more money!!! Another storm. Whew! That'll do some convincin'
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Money fight!!
 
2018-09-20 09:11:58 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: [ncdc.noaa.gov image 850x637]Accumulated Cyclone Energy index


I don't know what that horizontal red line shows, and I don't have time for detailed analysis of the data, but I'm failry confident it is not a moving average of "ACE", just by an informal visual assessment of the trend in size of those blue bars.

Would you care to enlighten us?
 
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