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(KVIA El Paso)   Solar observatory is still closed, and the FBI is still mum, and the local sheriff is mad about not getting to shoot some aliens   ( kvia.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Otero County, New Mexico, New Mexico, news release, United States, New MexicoFBI, post office, FBI investigation. Fisher, AURA  
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2018-09-19 04:06:51 PM  
Oh, it was aliens.
 
2018-09-19 05:45:55 PM  
ffs nonna this makes any farking sense
 
2018-09-19 05:52:12 PM  
"I think it's paramount that we know what the threat is so we can provide safety."

Your job is to lock people up after stealing their money.  I don't see how you can do that in a closed observatory.
 
2018-09-19 06:52:05 PM  
10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it
 
2018-09-19 06:54:36 PM  
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2018-09-19 06:55:39 PM  

cman: ffs nonna this makes any farking sense


No kidding.  It's like they want people to yell "It's aliens!" (which maybe they do).

I suppose it could be some well armed, well trained, survivalist/gun nut/James Bond villain who made a threat against...somebody (a farking observatory?)...and is apparently hiding out in the woods.  But the radio silence is super weird.
 
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2018-09-19 06:56:13 PM  

tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it


Not a bad hypothesis really. Sheriff might merely know of its existence and be a customer, sort of like a marijuana equivalent to the Chicken Ranch in Best Little Whore House in Texas, and just protected people he knew that were involved.
 
2018-09-19 06:56:44 PM  
"Frank Fisher, the New Mexico FBI Public Affairs Officer, Albuquerque Division, did return one of our phone calls today.  In the very brief call, he declined to answer any of the questions that we asked regarding the 'dangerous suspect', and would not respond to the Otero County Sheriffs statements regarding the FBI investigation.  Fisher told us to refer back to the AURA statement, and quickly hung up the phone."

That's quality public relations work, Frank.

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2018-09-19 06:58:48 PM  
I'm kind of impressed with the...frankness of the writing.

/fark would never let you get away with that shiat
 
2018-09-19 06:59:02 PM  
'...McAteer, a professor at New Mexico State University...
"Any aliens in our vicinity of the Universe are very likely microbial"... '

Three words:   GIANT SPACE AMOEBA
 
2018-09-19 06:59:17 PM  
Probably China/Russia using it to look at our military satellites or something along those lines.
 
2018-09-19 07:06:44 PM  
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2018-09-19 07:06:53 PM  
Sunspot. What a perfect name for a place with a solar observatory, eh? It is a poon.
 
2018-09-19 07:07:04 PM  

tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it


That's hardly a job for the FBI, that's a state law enforcement matter and they would be part of the investigative team. As well it wouldn't be part of operating procedure unless the grow op was in the facility anyway.
 
2018-09-19 07:19:42 PM  
Just overzealous swamp gas, folks.  
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2018-09-19 07:20:13 PM  
Someone working to many hours in the observatory went crazy and started threatening the post office. Or aliens working to many hours in the observatory went crazy and started threatening the post office.
 
2018-09-19 07:31:28 PM  

tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it


Pond Creek Road fashion?
 
2018-09-19 07:35:47 PM  
Whatever it is, the local sheriff is probably in on it with the bad guys, which is why he protesteth too loudly. When the Feds moved in on the gambling and prostitution in Wallace Idaho in the '90's, they had to leave the sheriff out of the loop because he was on the take. Same with the affair at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. It's very difficult to root out local good-ole-boy type corruption. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a gang of branch dildonian idiots "occupying" the observatory and the sheriff is dying to give them the support and publicity that the FBI is denying them
 
2018-09-19 07:35:57 PM  
The feds probably figure that the sheriff is a loose cannon who can't be trusted to keep quiet. His statement in this article would corroborate this assessment.
 
2018-09-19 07:36:35 PM  
All I could think was: Ed Anger from the Weekly World News has become a sheriff.

Some examples of Mr.Anger's wisdom-
"I'm madder than Superman in a room full of gals in lead brassieres at this new airport-security X-ray machine!"

"I'm madder than a hippie with a busted bong! Everywhere I look, I hear about how they want to make marijuana legal!"

"I think it's chicken shiat the way the FBI handled it. I have a responsibility to protect my citizens!"


OH, sorry...that last one was from the article...
 
2018-09-19 07:36:51 PM  
Meh, sheriff could shut down the roads in and out if he was genuinely outraged.
 
2018-09-19 07:37:09 PM  
During this time, we became concerned that a suspect in the investigation potentially posed a threat to the safety of local staff and residents

what said suspect may look like

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2018-09-19 07:44:40 PM  

Stibium: tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it

That's hardly a job for the FBI, that's a state law enforcement matter and they would be part of the investigative team. As well it wouldn't be part of operating procedure unless the grow op was in the facility anyway.


well, unless said forest was federal land (which it is) and the park police had asked for assistance in investigating
 
2018-09-19 07:46:43 PM  
Two words: Deep State.
 
2018-09-19 07:47:32 PM  
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2018-09-19 07:53:39 PM  
I'm amused at how this story keeps coming up, despite a complete lack of any additional information about anything at all. But I amuse easily.
 
2018-09-19 07:53:48 PM  

tlchwi02: Stibium: tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it

That's hardly a job for the FBI, that's a state law enforcement matter and they would be part of the investigative team. As well it wouldn't be part of operating procedure unless the grow op was in the facility anyway.

well, unless said forest was federal land (which it is) and the park police had asked for assistance in investigating


Fair enough, but it still doesn't make sense they would close the observatory to go digging around in the woods.
 
2018-09-19 07:54:33 PM  

ansius: Two words: Deep StateSpace.

 
2018-09-19 08:01:51 PM  
It's not still closed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.spac​e​.com/41852-sunspot-solar-observatory-o​pening-after-criminal-investigation.ht​ml

This story has been available from dozens of news outlets for 3 days.
 
2018-09-19 08:03:40 PM  

Stibium: tlchwi02: Stibium: tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it

That's hardly a job for the FBI, that's a state law enforcement matter and they would be part of the investigative team. As well it wouldn't be part of operating procedure unless the grow op was in the facility anyway.

well, unless said forest was federal land (which it is) and the park police had asked for assistance in investigating

Fair enough, but it still doesn't make sense they would close the observatory to go digging around in the woods.


the observatory is in the middle of nowhere and the staff all lives on site. if you're afraid armed cartel members are running around in your vicinity trying to protect their drugs, you may well want to move the scientists and their families somewhere safe until you're told its clear. and the feds tend to not want to announce these sorts of investigations for fear of spooking their targets.

I mean, i have no idea if that story is strictly true, but out there it seems like 1 of 4 things:
1. the observatory people got spooked by something not real and the FBI was called out because its federal land and now everyone is embarrassed to admit it (pretty plausible)
2. there was some sort of drug activity in the area the feds were trying to bust and they were afraid the isolated scientists could be caught up in some sort of dangerous confrontation and the feds aren't sure they can trust the sheriff, either because he might be compromised or he's just a big dumb loudmouth (my theory)
3. spies in the area checking on the local military base (seems very unlikely)
4. aliens (its always aliens)
 
2018-09-19 08:05:21 PM  
Big rock coming from space, we're all going to die.
 
2018-09-19 08:10:07 PM  
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2018-09-19 08:25:26 PM  

CordycepsInYourBrain: Whatever it is, the local sheriff is probably in on it with the bad guys, which is why he protesteth too loudly. When the Feds moved in on the gambling and prostitution in Wallace Idaho in the '90's, they had to leave the sheriff out of the loop because he was on the take. Same with the affair at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. It's very difficult to root out local good-ole-boy type corruption. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a gang of branch dildonian idiots "occupying" the observatory and the sheriff is dying to give them the support and publicity that the FBI is denying them


I initially figured it was related to hacking or spying on the bases on the valley floor.  I'm starting to come around on the possibility of some Branch Dildonian sytle scheme.
 
2018-09-19 08:27:22 PM  
On another site not to be named, a poster described working at an observatory off in the woods (not this one). One night he went out and there were elk all around outside the security fence looking at him, their eyes glistening. A while later he went out again. There was a throat clearing sound from the darkness outside the fence. A male voice demanded the observatory guy stop protecting the elk, because he [male voice] needed an elk real bad.

Yeah the observatory folks called the cops, who said somebody odd had been hunting elk in the area and going as far as wandering on random peoples' property and standing on their porches. Also that earlier visitation of elk was probably them saying "HELP US! LET US IN! THERE'S A MANIAC OUT HERE!"

Anyway, maybe it was Random Crazy Poacher looking for dem elks.
 
2018-09-19 08:28:35 PM  

tlchwi02: Stibium: tlchwi02: Stibium: tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it

That's hardly a job for the FBI, that's a state law enforcement matter and they would be part of the investigative team. As well it wouldn't be part of operating procedure unless the grow op was in the facility anyway.

well, unless said forest was federal land (which it is) and the park police had asked for assistance in investigating

Fair enough, but it still doesn't make sense they would close the observatory to go digging around in the woods.

the observatory is in the middle of nowhere and the staff all lives on site. if you're afraid armed cartel members are running around in your vicinity trying to protect their drugs, you may well want to move the scientists and their families somewhere safe until you're told its clear. and the feds tend to not want to announce these sorts of investigations for fear of spooking their targets.

I mean, i have no idea if that story is strictly true, but out there it seems like 1 of 4 things:
1. the observatory people got spooked by something not real and the FBI was called out because its federal land and now everyone is embarrassed to admit it (pretty plausible)
2. there was some sort of drug activity in the area the feds were trying to bust and they were afraid the isolated scientists could be caught up in some sort of dangerous confrontation and the feds aren't sure they can trust the sheriff, either because he might be compromised or he's just a big dumb loudmouth (my theory)
3. spies in the area checking on the local military base (seems very unlikely)
4. aliens (its always aliens)


Number 3 actually seems the most likely (not spies but spy gear).  All of the other scenarios should have resulted in the nearby (<1 mile) facility also being closed.
 
2018-09-19 08:37:52 PM  
All the Aliens needed was 'bout three fiddy.
 
2018-09-19 08:45:09 PM  
 
2018-09-19 09:01:20 PM  
Want a "The government shutdown science" conspiracy story? The most powerful wether radar hasn't been fixed in nearly a decade after a lighting strike. Rumors are that it could pick up the F-22 flying in Texas.
 
2018-09-19 09:01:25 PM  
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Always the last to know.
 
2018-09-19 09:05:51 PM  
The best theory I've heard is that the location of the observatory puts it in view of military facilities.  So, should someone want to spy on what's going on, putting up a sensor in a science facility would probably go unnoticed.  And if you wanted to get that information out, the post office -- also closed -- is right near by.
 
2018-09-19 09:07:59 PM  

Polezni Durak: It was kiddie porn
https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/w​arrant-fbi-agents-search-sunspot-obser​vatory-for-child-pornography/5077303/


They're open to the public.  Probably had public wi-fi
 
2018-09-19 09:37:37 PM  

ansius: Two words: Deep State.


Two more words: Steep Date

If you order the lobster and don't put out, that's like stealing.
 
2018-09-19 10:14:06 PM  

Polezni Durak: It was kiddie porn
https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/w​arrant-fbi-agents-search-sunspot-obser​vatory-for-child-pornography/5077303/


Albuquerque Journal .com has a much much better story. Almost as bizarre as- it's aliens.
 
2018-09-19 10:45:56 PM  

encephlavator: Polezni Durak: It was kiddie porn
https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/w​arrant-fbi-agents-search-sunspot-obser​vatory-for-child-pornography/5077303/

Albuquerque Journal .com has a much much better story. Almost as bizarre as- it's aliens.


This one?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abqj​o​urnal.com/1222935/sunspot-observatory-​closure-sparked-by-child-porn-investig​ation.html/amp

the janitor began complaining about "lax security" at the facility and claimed someone was breaking into the facility at night to steal internet service and toilet paper.
 
2018-09-19 11:10:38 PM  
Go ahead and admit it. You've always wondered if the government would actually tell us if there was an extinction level asteroid heading our way.  The general consensus was that they wouldn't.  Nothing we can do about it and no reason to spread the fear and violence that would definitely follow the information.  So they are keeping quiet.  Maybe some amateur astronomer will spot it or maybe our first hint will be the shock wave of atmosphere heated to a plasma state.

Either way, enjoy your last few days.
 
2018-09-19 11:41:08 PM  

encephlavator: Polezni Durak: It was kiddie porn
https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/w​arrant-fbi-agents-search-sunspot-obser​vatory-for-child-pornography/5077303/

Albuquerque Journal .com has a much much better story. Almost as bizarre as- it's aliens.


The found the porn months ago, didn't interview anyone until 8/21, and then didn't shut the lab down until 9/6, kept it closed for almost two weeks, and might have detained an entire lab and post office worth of employees for that time, but apparently never actually arrested the janitor.

Yeah, that's a rational response
 
2018-09-20 12:36:56 AM  
Do I really have to be the Weeners this?

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2018-09-20 01:06:03 AM  
Subby & the people who greenlit this THIS TWO DAY OLD STORY ARE RETARDED! The observatory IS NOT STILL CLOSED!
 
2018-09-20 01:21:24 AM  

tlchwi02: Stibium: tlchwi02: Stibium: tlchwi02: 10 bucks says its a grow op in the neighboring forest that the feds stumbled into and they think the sheriff is somewhat in on it

That's hardly a job for the FBI, that's a state law enforcement matter and they would be part of the investigative team. As well it wouldn't be part of operating procedure unless the grow op was in the facility anyway.

well, unless said forest was federal land (which it is) and the park police had asked for assistance in investigating

Fair enough, but it still doesn't make sense they would close the observatory to go digging around in the woods.

the observatory is in the middle of nowhere and the staff all lives on site. if you're afraid armed cartel members are running around in your vicinity trying to protect their drugs, you may well want to move the scientists and their families somewhere safe until you're told its clear. and the feds tend to not want to announce these sorts of investigations for fear of spooking their targets.

I mean, i have no idea if that story is strictly true, but out there it seems like 1 of 4 things:
1. the observatory people got spooked by something not real and the FBI was called out because its federal land and now everyone is embarrassed to admit it (pretty plausible)
2. there was some sort of drug activity in the area the feds were trying to bust and they were afraid the isolated scientists could be caught up in some sort of dangerous confrontation and the feds aren't sure they can trust the sheriff, either because he might be compromised or he's just a big dumb loudmouth (my theory)
3. spies in the area checking on the local military base (seems very unlikely)
4. aliens (its always aliens)


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2018-09-20 02:01:17 AM  
If it is like most raids, they will want to copy every hard drive in the place. They FBI might have need to buy a container load of new hard drives if it is like some observatories. CERN produces so much data so fast they have ship lots of it to other countries over dedicated fiber links. That data will be compressed very well so it will all look encrypted too. The auto detection tools will also see an observatories data as all images or video.
 
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