Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(WFTV Orlando)   Is it really stealing if you decide to keep 11 pounds of marijuana that washed up on the beach?   (wftv.com) divider line
    More: Florida, Volusia County, Florida, flagler county, deputies, Police, flagler county sheriff, Coroner, Flagler County deputies, Flagler County, Florida  
•       •       •

4263 clicks; posted to Main » on 14 Sep 2018 at 7:26 PM (1 year ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



74 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2018-09-14 05:56:15 PM  
EMINENT DOMAIN, B*TCHES.
 
2018-09-14 06:15:07 PM  
I don't think that dude in the pic needed any more weed.
 
2018-09-14 06:25:24 PM  
705.102Reporting lost or abandoned property.-
(1)Whenever any person finds any lost or abandoned property, such person shall report the description and location of the property to a law enforcement officer.(2)The law enforcement officer taking the report shall ascertain whether the person reporting the property wishes to make a claim to it if the rightful owner cannot be identified or located. If the person does wish to make such claim, he or she shall deposit with the law enforcement agency a reasonable sum sufficient to cover the agency's cost for transportation, storage, and publication of notice. This sum shall be reimbursed to the finder by the rightful owner should he or she identify and reclaim the property.(3)It is unlawful for any person who finds any lost or abandoned property to appropriate the same to his or her own use or to refuse to deliver the same when required.(4)Any person who unlawfully appropriates such lost or abandoned property to his or her own use or refuses to deliver such property when required commits theft as defined in s. 812.014, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
 
2018-09-14 06:41:26 PM  

whidbey: I don't think that dude in the pic needed any more weed.


They said it backfired on him.  Looks like it worked perfectly to me.
 
2018-09-14 07:10:21 PM  
Admiralty law would apply. It is jetsam. The legal owner may claim the item from a finder, however failing such a claim the finder is entitled to keep the item.

Had this been in a state where marijuana was legal it would be a different story. However in Florida he could be charged with possession of the marijuana, but he couldn't be charged with stealing it unless the Sheriff owned the marijuana when it was on the boat from which it was thrown or floated free after sinking.

If it was found in a parking lot and had fallen off a truck, it could be theft by conversion as noted in the statute quoted above, but since it washed up on a beach a whole different set of laws apply.
 
2018-09-14 07:24:27 PM  
img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2018-09-14 07:28:18 PM  
Salvage rights FTW
 
2018-09-14 07:29:33 PM  
The person who called 911 told dispatchers Kelley and others were trying to open and take the bags

Farking snitch. Mind your own damn business.
 
2018-09-14 07:30:23 PM  
The only thing shiattier than the ditch weed in those bricks is the person who ratted him out. Perhaps he wasn't keen to share any?
 
2018-09-14 07:30:42 PM  
No, but it is felony possession, possibly with intent to import and distribute added on.

Used to happen a lot in the 70s, folks called the bales square grouper and the weed salty dog.
 
2018-09-14 07:31:25 PM  
Yes, it is legal under the "stand your pounds" law in florida.
 
2018-09-14 07:31:57 PM  
Stealing from whom?
 
2018-09-14 07:32:10 PM  
Pretty much, God wants you to have it.  Why are you people so anti-Jebus?
 
2018-09-14 07:35:28 PM  

feckingmorons: Admiralty law would apply. It is jetsam. The legal owner may claim the item from a finder, however failing such a claim the finder is entitled to keep the item.

Had this been in a state where marijuana was legal it would be a different story. However in Florida he could be charged with possession of the marijuana, but he couldn't be charged with stealing it unless the Sheriff owned the marijuana when it was on the boat from which it was thrown or floated free after sinking.

If it was found in a parking lot and had fallen off a truck, it could be theft by conversion as noted in the statute quoted above, but since it washed up on a beach a whole different set of laws apply.


Weed IS legal in Florida as long as you buy it from the guy who paid off the pols
 
2018-09-14 07:35:31 PM  

Muzzleloader: No, but it is felony possession, possibly with intent to import and distribute added on.

Used to happen a lot in the 70s, folks called the bales square grouper and the weed salty dog.


Heh.   Some bales or something washed up around the beaches of Humboldt County in the 70's (pre-sensimilla).   Rumor was it was really good so every hippie grower (which is what it was then) was dipping their shake and stems in salt water trying to cash in.   This was when it was still 5 bucks a lid.
 
2018-09-14 07:39:15 PM  
Also, i think the exact amount confiscated was a few joints less than eleven pounds from florida mans mugshot. 
mediaweb.wftv.comView Full Size
 
2018-09-14 07:41:40 PM  

abhorrent1: The person who called 911 told dispatchers Kelley and others were trying to open and take the bags

Farking snitch. Mind your own damn business.


Even I can't see myself dropping a dime on people who found free weed on the beach. I'd give them a 'high' five as they ran past with their cannabis freetiva.
 
2018-09-14 07:41:53 PM  
marine salvage. finders keepers...etc
 
2018-09-14 07:42:28 PM  
Did he name it Wilson?
 
2018-09-14 07:42:34 PM  
Reverend Horton Heat - Bales of Cocaine (Live)
Youtube N07h88o3Dc4
 
2018-09-14 07:43:36 PM  
I guess they pack it better than they used to. I knew a kid in Florida who found a bale, sold some, kept some. It was very rough smoking...salt water got to it. Yeah, his shiat was winter doldrums' last resort.
 
2018-09-14 07:45:28 PM  
Beach combing is not a crime.
 
2018-09-14 07:45:57 PM  

E.S.Q.: Salvage rights FTW


Nope. Way I see it, that much weight of any drug, there's a none-zero chance that someone will take an interest in what the hell happened to it. That kind of shiat is Pandora's F#ckin' Box right there, my friend. Leave well enough alone and let some other fool pay the price for their greed.
 
2018-09-14 07:46:34 PM  

H31N0US: I guess they pack it better than they used to. I knew a kid in Florida who found a bale, sold some, kept some. It was very rough smoking...salt water got to it. Yeah, his shiat was winter doldrums' last resort.


At least it wasn't labrador.
 
2018-09-14 07:47:16 PM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: E.S.Q.: Salvage rights FTW

Nope. Way I see it, that much weight of any drug, there's a none-zero chance that someone will take an interest in what the hell happened to it. That kind of shiat is Pandora's F#ckin' Box right there, my friend. Leave well enough alone and let some other fool pay the price for their greed.


*nonzero
 
2018-09-14 07:52:21 PM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: E.S.Q.: Salvage rights FTW

Nope. Way I see it, that much weight of any drug, there's a none-zero chance that someone will take an interest in what the hell happened to it. That kind of shiat is Pandora's F#ckin' Box right there, my friend. Leave well enough alone and let some other fool pay the price for their greed.


I might think it would be the cost of doing business. If it is waterlogged I must assume the value is close to nil, so the original owner looking for it is probably not going to be a problem.

If it were coke, or heroin or meth where you could re-manufacture it, that might be a concern.
 
2018-09-14 07:52:38 PM  

secondpsych: Also, i think the exact amount confiscated was a few joints less than eleven pounds from florida mans mugshot. [image 597x336]
---


I had always assumed that the accused couldn't have their eyes closed in a mugshot?...
 
2018-09-14 07:53:44 PM  
"You see, Your Honor, my client merely *found* these drugs, and was on his way to the police station to turn them in, when he was arrested."
 
2018-09-14 07:54:29 PM  
Just dry it out, I bet it tastes a little salty, though.

/ not a weed connoisseur
// you know what else tastes a little salty?
 
2018-09-14 07:56:09 PM  
I remember a while back a bunch of pot bales washed up on one of our wild beaches up here in Washington.

The Coast Guard was there.
 
2018-09-14 07:56:32 PM  

Truck Fump: "You see, Your Honor, my client merely *found* these drugs, and was on his way to the police station to turn them in, when he was arrested."


This guy needs to not talk. If he shuts his yap I can't really see a criminal case proceeding. If he already said he knew it was weed, then that could be problematic.

Don't talk to the cops.
 
2018-09-14 07:58:04 PM  

feckingmorons: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: E.S.Q.: Salvage rights FTW

Nope. Way I see it, that much weight of any drug, there's a none-zero chance that someone will take an interest in what the hell happened to it. That kind of shiat is Pandora's F#ckin' Box right there, my friend. Leave well enough alone and let some other fool pay the price for their greed.

I might think it would be the cost of doing business. If it is waterlogged I must assume the value is close to nil, so the original owner looking for it is probably not going to be a problem.

If it were coke, or heroin or meth where you could re-manufacture it, that might be a concern.


You're not wrong (especially for weed), but still, there's that nonzero chance, however small,  that someone will decide to do some gangsta shiat to make an example that folks should mind their own business. Not worth it just for salvage rights, IMHO.
 
2018-09-14 07:58:38 PM  
img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2018-09-14 08:00:22 PM  
FTA: The person who called 911 told dispatchers Kelley and others were trying to open and take the bags.

Damn I hate snitches.

Also, why can't I get that lucky and find 11 9 6 2 pounds a half ounce of weed washed up on the beach to turn in to the police.
 
2018-09-14 08:00:50 PM  
Sounds like he got greedy and took too much and got caught.
 
2018-09-14 08:04:43 PM  
I would have said "Report what? I was trying to help keep the beach clean of plastic garbage." and since when is it against the law to pick up garbage? Making that illegal is why we have global warming!
 
2018-09-14 08:06:45 PM  

Raoul Eaton: 705.102Reporting lost or abandoned property.-
(1)Whenever any person finds any lost or abandoned property, such person shall report the description and location of the property to a law enforcement officer.(2)The law enforcement officer taking the report shall ascertain whether the person reporting the property wishes to make a claim to it if the rightful owner cannot be identified or located. If the person does wish to make such claim, he or she shall deposit with the law enforcement agency a reasonable sum sufficient to cover the agency's cost for transportation, storage, and publication of notice. This sum shall be reimbursed to the finder by the rightful owner should he or she identify and reclaim the property.(3)It is unlawful for any person who finds any lost or abandoned property to appropriate the same to his or her own use or to refuse to deliver the same when required.(4)Any person who unlawfully appropriates such lost or abandoned property to his or her own use or refuses to deliver such property when required commits theft as defined in s. 812.014, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


But what are the pertinent Maritime Law codes?
 
2018-09-14 08:07:03 PM  

abhorrent1: The person who called 911 told dispatchers Kelley and others were trying to open and take the bags

Farking snitch. Mind your own damn business.


Yep. I don't know if I would have taken the drugs myself (11 pounds is alot), but I would definitely not call the cops. The guy wasn't hurting anyone.
 
2018-09-14 08:12:01 PM  

baron von doodle: abhorrent1: The person who called 911 told dispatchers Kelley and others were trying to open and take the bags

Farking snitch. Mind your own damn business.

Yep. I don't know if I would have taken the drugs myself (11 pounds is alot), but I would definitely not call the cops. The guy wasn't hurting anyone.


I wouldn't because I don't smoke it but I wouldn't care if someone did. And yeah, 11 pounds is a lot.
Does pot go bad? Can you freeze it? Seems like it would take a long time to go through that much unless of course you were sharing.

Now if were bundles of coke...
 
2018-09-14 08:13:29 PM  
"I arrived here on foot, officer."
 
2018-09-14 08:17:12 PM  

abhorrent1: I wouldn't because I don't smoke it but I wouldn't care if someone did. And yeah, 11 pounds is a lot.
Does pot go bad? Can you freeze it? Seems like it would take a long time to go through that much unless of course you were sharing.

Now if were bundles of coke...


Not sure how long it takes it to go bad but I'm willing to find out if y'all want to fund my study.
 
2018-09-14 08:20:58 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: Raoul Eaton: 705.102Reporting lost or abandoned property.-
(1)Whenever any person finds any lost or abandoned property, such person shall report the description and location of the property to a law enforcement officer.(2)The law enforcement officer taking the report shall ascertain whether the person reporting the property wishes to make a claim to it if the rightful owner cannot be identified or located. If the person does wish to make such claim, he or she shall deposit with the law enforcement agency a reasonable sum sufficient to cover the agency's cost for transportation, storage, and publication of notice. This sum shall be reimbursed to the finder by the rightful owner should he or she identify and reclaim the property.(3)It is unlawful for any person who finds any lost or abandoned property to appropriate the same to his or her own use or to refuse to deliver the same when required.(4)Any person who unlawfully appropriates such lost or abandoned property to his or her own use or refuses to deliver such property when required commits theft as defined in s. 812.014, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

But what are the pertinent Maritime Law codes?


It isn't codified like state stautes, there are various acts, like the Limitation Act, the Carriage of Goods by Sea Act (COGSA), but title 33 of the US Code covers much of it.

There is an excellent article (full text available) about Admiralty and Maritime law from the Houston Journal of International Law, PDF opens
 
2018-09-14 08:23:52 PM  

feckingmorons: machodonkeywrestler: Raoul Eaton: 705.102Reporting lost or abandoned property.-
(1)Whenever any person finds any lost or abandoned property, such person shall report the description and location of the property to a law enforcement officer.(2)The law enforcement officer taking the report shall ascertain whether the person reporting the property wishes to make a claim to it if the rightful owner cannot be identified or located. If the person does wish to make such claim, he or she shall deposit with the law enforcement agency a reasonable sum sufficient to cover the agency's cost for transportation, storage, and publication of notice. This sum shall be reimbursed to the finder by the rightful owner should he or she identify and reclaim the property.(3)It is unlawful for any person who finds any lost or abandoned property to appropriate the same to his or her own use or to refuse to deliver the same when required.(4)Any person who unlawfully appropriates such lost or abandoned property to his or her own use or refuses to deliver such property when required commits theft as defined in s. 812.014, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

But what are the pertinent Maritime Law codes?

It isn't codified like state stautes, there are various acts, like the Limitation Act, the Carriage of Goods by Sea Act (COGSA), but title 33 of the US Code covers much of it.

There is an excellent article (full text available) about Admiralty and Maritime law from the Houston Journal of International Law, PDF opens


But what about Bird Law?  Suppose two eagles grabbed the bale with a string and carried it with their dorsal guiding feathers and dropped it on the coast.
 
2018-09-14 08:25:31 PM  

Raoul Eaton: 705.102Reporting lost or abandoned property.-
(1)Whenever any person finds any lost or abandoned property, such person shall report the description and location of the property to a law enforcement officer.(2)The law enforcement officer taking the report shall ascertain whether the person reporting the property wishes to make a claim to it if the rightful owner cannot be identified or located. If the person does wish to make such claim, he or she shall deposit with the law enforcement agency a reasonable sum sufficient to cover the agency's cost for transportation, storage, and publication of notice. This sum shall be reimbursed to the finder by the rightful owner should he or she identify and reclaim the property.(3)It is unlawful for any person who finds any lost or abandoned property to appropriate the same to his or her own use or to refuse to deliver the same when required.(4)Any person who unlawfully appropriates such lost or abandoned property to his or her own use or refuses to deliver such property when required commits theft as defined in s. 812.014, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


Seriously...
Are we as, John Q. Public, supposed to know ALL Local, State and Federal statutes, regulation, laws and ordinances.....REALLY??
I would fail the licensing process..
 
2018-09-14 08:29:43 PM  
The laws regarding flotsam and jetsam are a bit complicated. It might depend on how far up the beach the package washed.
 
2018-09-14 08:30:32 PM  

GratefullyAlive: Raoul Eaton: 705.102Reporting lost or abandoned property.-
(1)Whenever any person finds any lost or abandoned property, such person shall report the description and location of the property to a law enforcement officer.(2)The law enforcement officer taking the report shall ascertain whether the person reporting the property wishes to make a claim to it if the rightful owner cannot be identified or located. If the person does wish to make such claim, he or she shall deposit with the law enforcement agency a reasonable sum sufficient to cover the agency's cost for transportation, storage, and publication of notice. This sum shall be reimbursed to the finder by the rightful owner should he or she identify and reclaim the property.(3)It is unlawful for any person who finds any lost or abandoned property to appropriate the same to his or her own use or to refuse to deliver the same when required.(4)Any person who unlawfully appropriates such lost or abandoned property to his or her own use or refuses to deliver such property when required commits theft as defined in s. 812.014, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

Seriously...
Are we as, John Q. Public, supposed to know ALL Local, State and Federal statutes, regulation, laws and ordinances.....REALLY??
I would fail the licensing process..


Yes.  Ignorance isn't an excuse.

I learned that lesson when I saw a 55mph sigh a half mile down the highway and increased my speed because I thought that was the speed limit.  Apparently the limit was 35mph and I wasn't allowed to speed up until I passed the sign.  That was a $250 lesson in law.
 
2018-09-14 08:34:14 PM  
Aha! I bet a lot of you didn't think of the applicability of marine law and salvage law.

But it's a beach, bi-atch! Maybe he can claim the pot was legally salvaged, so he can't be charged with theft. All the other laws would still be a problem, but hey, it's a start for his lawyer(s).
 
2018-09-14 08:36:23 PM  
Yeah, but is it any good..?
 
2018-09-14 08:38:10 PM  
My guess is the snitch saw the weed from a distance, pointed to it and said aloud something to the extent of, "hey, I wonder if there's weed in there?"

This guy heard him, then ran over to grab it for himself without offering to share.

So the snitch thinks 'hey, if this guy is gonna be rude and bogart the whole thing, then it's karma if the cops take it from him, too.'

/ because that would be the only possibly justifiable reason to snitch
// don't be rude
/// sharing is caring
 
2018-09-14 08:43:15 PM  

Samsonite Swan: My guess is the snitch saw the weed from a distance, pointed to it and said aloud something to the extent of, "hey, I wonder if there's weed in there?"

This guy heard him, then ran over to grab it for himself without offering to share.

So the snitch thinks 'hey, if this guy is gonna be rude and bogart the whole thing, then it's karma if the cops take it from him, too.'

/ because that would be the only possibly justifiable reason to snitch
// don't be rude
/// sharing is caring


Nah. I think the caller was probably just that asshole kid in class that would remind the substitute that they were supposed to have a test that day.
 
Displayed 50 of 74 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter




In Other Media
Top Commented
Javascript is required to view headlines in widget.
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report