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2018-09-14 09:09:35 AM  
The Affordable Care Act?  Why bother?

You've already killed the individual mandate, and Trump has axed the subsidies to health insurers.  So you've put the entire thing not even into a death spiral but a vertical dive at full afterburner.  Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.

Oh, nevermind.  I watched the video.  Subby was being too specific.  Ryan wasn't talking about just Obamacare.  He was also saying they need to cut entitlements and reform "retirement security" and medicare.

Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare.  It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.
 
2018-09-14 09:14:28 AM  
It was kind of Paul Ryan to give every Democrat a nice ad to run in the upcoming midterms.
 
2018-09-14 09:31:24 AM  
Paul Ryan very much deserves a very severe cockpunching.
 
2018-09-14 09:34:28 AM  
"No health care for you!"

That's quite a slogan to run on.
 
2018-09-14 09:40:01 AM  
This just in: Paul Ryan is an asshole.
 
2018-09-14 09:42:06 AM  
The Affordable Care Act should get a restraining order against the Republican Party.
 
2018-09-14 09:47:23 AM  
They haven't been able to do it after being in control of the whole shooting works for 2 years, why should I believe they are going to do it now?
 
2018-09-14 09:53:59 AM  
For a political party that claims to love its' country so very much, they sure are doing a 1st class job of killing it stone dead.
 
2018-09-14 09:54:36 AM  
GTFO already you pandering sycophant enabler.
 
2018-09-14 09:54:46 AM  
I hope that the big fat lobbying position you land gets you a big fat expense account, and that during one of your comped meals you choke on a piece of steak, and a restaurant full of up by the bootstraps republicans does nothing to help you, you disgusting fark.
 
2018-09-14 09:55:32 AM  

MrBallou: Paul Ryan very much deserves a very severe cockpunching.


But who do we get to loan him a cock?
 
2018-09-14 09:55:35 AM  
Speaker Paul D. Ryan said he thinks Republican will retain control of the House.


All evidence to the contrary. Your bubble is about to burst, Paulie. Go mow lawns with Boehner.
 
2018-09-14 09:55:48 AM  
While you libs sit here crying, I'm raising chickens to pay my doctor with.
 
2018-09-14 09:56:22 AM  
Something tells me that once Ryan is out of politics he'll be lobbying for the pharmaceutical industry. 🤔
 
2018-09-14 09:57:13 AM  

Karac: The Affordable Care Act?  Why bother?

You've already killed the individual mandate, and Trump has axed the subsidies to health insurers.  So you've put the entire thing not even into a death spiral but a vertical dive at full afterburner.  Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.

Oh, nevermind.  I watched the video.  Subby was being too specific.  Ryan wasn't talking about just Obamacare.  He was also saying they need to cut entitlements and reform "retirement security" and medicare.

Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare.  It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.


Did you miss the thread about the 20 republican state AGs demanding that a federal judge declare that specific clause, prohibiting health insurance companies from denying service because of pre-existing conditions, unconstitutional?

I'ma look for it now.
 
2018-09-14 09:57:38 AM  
Vote for us and we'll continue our fight against the poor and elderly!

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2018-09-14 09:58:57 AM  
Just how deep in the pocket of the health insurance lobby is our freaking government?  It's beyond frustrating that people die by the thousands so they can collect pay checks, and they still get voted back in.
 
2018-09-14 09:59:11 AM  
Our country's ruling party has advised America once again that preventing affordable healthcare is their highest priority.

Good to know.
 
2018-09-14 10:01:02 AM  
Paul Ryan is the GOP's sole remaining hope for 2020 and/or 2024.
Notice how he melts further back into the bushes as the trump scandals heat up?
 
2018-09-14 10:02:38 AM  

Smoking GNU: Karac: The Affordable Care Act?  Why bother?

You've already killed the individual mandate, and Trump has axed the subsidies to health insurers.  So you've put the entire thing not even into a death spiral but a vertical dive at full afterburner.  Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.

Oh, nevermind.  I watched the video.  Subby was being too specific.  Ryan wasn't talking about just Obamacare.  He was also saying they need to cut entitlements and reform "retirement security" and medicare.

Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare.  It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.

Did you miss the thread about the 20 republican state AGs demanding that a federal judge declare that specific clause, prohibiting health insurance companies from denying service because of pre-existing conditions, unconstitutional?

I'ma look for it now.


Here we go:

https://m.fark.com/goto/10161174/www.​u​satoday.com/story/money/2018/09/12/oba​macare-texas-judge-weighs-request-20-s​tates-suspend-aca/1
 
2018-09-14 10:03:11 AM  
They plan on running on repealing Obamacare for the next 100 years.
 
2018-09-14 10:03:29 AM  

Karac: The Affordable Care Act?  Why bother?

You've already killed the individual mandate, and Trump has axed the subsidies to health insurers.  So you've put the entire thing not even into a death spiral but a vertical dive at full afterburner.  Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.

Oh, nevermind.  I watched the video.  Subby was being too specific.  Ryan wasn't talking about just Obamacare.  He was also saying they need to cut entitlements and reform "retirement security" and medicare.

Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare.  It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.


Was it this asshole that spent keggers in college talking about how to kill the social security net or some other asshole? I can't remember.
 
2018-09-14 10:05:54 AM  

Karac: Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare. It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.


I think cutting social security and medicare is the one thing that could actually turn the base against the GOP.
Unless by "cutting" you mean keeping it for the boomers while cutting it for anyone born later.
 
2018-09-14 10:06:35 AM  
ryan hasn't been shy about getting rid of social security and medicare since he promoted his "plan for america".  As House Budget Committee chairman, Mr. Ryan drew a blueprint for a government that would be absent when people needed it the most. Medicaid, food stamps, and other vital programs would be offloaded to the states, but the states would not be given the resources to run them. The federal government simply would not be there to help the unemployed who need job training, or struggling students who seek college educations. Washington would be unable to respond when a city cannot properly treat its sewage, or when the poor and uninsured overload emergency rooms as clinics close.

that's from an op-ed from 2012s presidential race but ryan has been consistent about what he wants for a long time.  how he gets elected is beyond me.
 
2018-09-14 10:06:39 AM  

Pichu0102: Karac: The Affordable Care Act?  Why bother?

You've already killed the individual mandate, and Trump has axed the subsidies to health insurers.  So you've put the entire thing not even into a death spiral but a vertical dive at full afterburner.  Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.

Oh, nevermind.  I watched the video.  Subby was being too specific.  Ryan wasn't talking about just Obamacare.  He was also saying they need to cut entitlements and reform "retirement security" and medicare.

Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare.  It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.

Was it this asshole that spent keggers in college talking about how to kill the social security net or some other asshole? I can't remember.


Yes, and for an extra layer of shiat-frosting on the cake his classes were paid for by his father's SS survivors' benefits.
 
2018-09-14 10:08:16 AM  

Karac: Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.


Hmm, lets test that theory,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/​p​lum-line/wp/2018/09/05/republicans-kee​p-on-trying-to-strip-protections-for-p​re-existing-conditions/

FTA: "The suit claims that since in the tax bill last year Congress reduced the individual mandate's penalty for not carrying health insurance to $0, that means the mandate itself is no longer valid, and if the mandate isn't valid, that means the entire law should be struck down. (The Trump administration's position is that the insurance regulations, including the ban on denials for preexisting conditions, should be struck down, but provisions like the expansion of Medicaid could stay.)"

Look, I found 20 states with GOP attorney generals and an administration that is stupid enough to go after that.
 
2018-09-14 10:10:24 AM  

HerptheDerp: Just how deep in the pocket of the health insurance lobby is our freaking government?  It's beyond frustrating that people die by the thousands so they can collect pay checks, and they still get voted back in.


They can only do this because we keep sending them free money every month.

/Drop your insurance
//its not going to save you anyway.
 
2018-09-14 10:10:35 AM  

born_yesterday: MrBallou: Paul Ryan very much deserves a very severe cockpunching.

But who do we get to loan him a cock?


Aim anywhere and punch. The man IS a dick.

/multiple punches may be required though, just in case.
 
2018-09-14 10:10:42 AM  
It wasn't very affordable.
 
2018-09-14 10:12:35 AM  
Everyone's favorite "political psychic", 538 has a "who will win the House" tracker. Over the last few weeks, the democratic chances of winning has dropped from 7 ( out of 10 ) to 5. That's something like a 20% drop over the course of 2 two weeks. If that keeps up, the blue wave will be turned into a #REDWAVE by November.
 
2018-09-14 10:14:27 AM  

snowshovel: Everyone's favorite "political psychic", 538 has a "who will win the House" tracker. Over the last few weeks, the democratic chances of winning has dropped from 7 ( out of 10 ) to 5. That's something like a 20% drop over the course of 2 two weeks. If that keeps up, the blue wave will be turned into a #REDWAVE by November.


Uhh, it's gone from 7/10 to 5/6. Which is better than 7/10.

In other tracking, I've gone from 70% certainty that you're a satire account to 72%.
 
2018-09-14 10:15:10 AM  

snowshovel: Everyone's favorite "political psychic", 538 has a "who will win the House" tracker. Over the last few weeks, the democratic chances of winning has dropped from 7 ( out of 10 ) to 5. That's something like a 20% drop over the course of 2 two weeks. If that keeps up, the blue wave will be turned into a #REDWAVE by November.


So how's the weather in Saint Petersburg today, komrade?
 
2018-09-14 10:15:41 AM  

snowshovel: Everyone's favorite "political psychic", 538 has a "who will win the House" tracker. Over the last few weeks, the democratic chances of winning has dropped from 7 ( out of 10 ) to 5. That's something like a 20% drop over the course of 2 two weeks. If that keeps up, the blue wave will be turned into a #REDWAVE by November.


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and the voices in your head do not count.
 
2018-09-14 10:16:40 AM  

Curious: ryan hasn't been shy about getting rid of social security and medicare since he promoted his "plan for america".  As House Budget Committee chairman, Mr. Ryan drew a blueprint for a government that would be absent when people needed it the most. Medicaid, food stamps, and other vital programs would be offloaded to the states, but the states would not be given the resources to run them. The federal government simply would not be there to help the unemployed who need job training, or struggling students who seek college educations. Washington would be unable to respond when a city cannot properly treat its sewage, or when the poor and uninsured overload emergency rooms as clinics close.

that's from an op-ed from 2012s presidential race but ryan has been consistent about what he wants for a long time.  how he gets elected is beyond me.


Because the people of that bustling metropolis of Janesville, WI (population 64,000; 92% of whom are white) want to sick it to those big-city libs and other "urban" types.

// 15% live in poverty
// median income in 2015 was $49k, 10% below the national average of $56k
 
2018-09-14 10:16:59 AM  

RaceDTruck: They haven't been able to do it after being in control of the whole shooting works for 2 years, why should I believe they are going to do it now?


They are just trying to get the republican base out to vote on the "we don't want healthcare or social security because Obama" issue. It's worked before.
 
2018-09-14 10:17:49 AM  
Take the money, take the healthcare, kill the environment and take the education. Leave the littles the scraps, wallowing in toxic sludge. Maybe then we will finally be able to elect someone that can do some good.

/probably not
 
2018-09-14 10:19:30 AM  
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2018-09-14 10:19:41 AM  

chaotoroboto: snowshovel: Everyone's favorite "political psychic", 538 has a "who will win the House" tracker. Over the last few weeks, the democratic chances of winning has dropped from 7 ( out of 10 ) to 5. That's something like a 20% drop over the course of 2 two weeks. If that keeps up, the blue wave will be turned into a #REDWAVE by November.

Uhh, it's gone from 7/10 to 5/6. Which is better than 7/10.

In other tracking, I've gone from 70% certainty that you're a satire account to 72%.


I actually leave snowshovel unfarkied so I can read his posts with no warning. It's often more amusing that way.
 
2018-09-14 10:20:26 AM  

Karac: The Affordable Care Act?  Why bother?

You've already killed the individual mandate, and Trump has axed the subsidies to health insurers.  So you've put the entire thing not even into a death spiral but a vertical dive at full afterburner.  Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.

Oh, nevermind.  I watched the video.  Subby was being too specific.  Ryan wasn't talking about just Obamacare.  He was also saying they need to cut entitlements and reform "retirement security" and medicare.

Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare.  It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.


Ryan is the hypocrite's hypocrite (surprised much?) - social programs enabled him to go to college and now he wants to "reform" them. Fark him with a rusty pole.
 
2018-09-14 10:21:56 AM  
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2018-09-14 10:23:49 AM  

LarryDan43: They plan on running on repealing Obamacare for the next 100 years.


The funny thing is, if republicans actually do repeal Obamacare and make abortion illegal, they lose those single issue voters who only care about those things. Abortion especially. They might say they want to get rid of it and be seen doing things to chip away at it, but if they are too successful they are just left with 2nd amendment as a vote getting wedge issue.
 
2018-09-14 10:26:10 AM  
He won't be there to see it, but his owners have told him what to say and so he's saying it. He is eyeing that sweet lobbying gig that is in no way a quid pro quo for the awful things he has done as speaker.
 
2018-09-14 10:29:53 AM  
Paul Ryan - Is that the anti-abortion guy that wants to cut maternity care from the ACA in the country that has the highest maternal death rate in the developed world?  Is that the turd we are talking about?
 
2018-09-14 10:32:54 AM  
In a couple of decades I'll be in the old folks home and the GOP will be holding a vote to kill it.
 
2018-09-14 10:33:19 AM  

Karac: He was also saying they need to cut entitlements and reform "retirement security" and medicare.


"entitlements" and "retirement security" is the next big thing that the rich class wants to remove after health insurance.  Goodbye Social Security.
 
2018-09-14 10:35:53 AM  

keldaria: Karac: Just about the only thing left to get rid of is the ban on using pre-existing conditions to refuse to insure people, and even most Republicans aren't stupid enough to go after that for no effect.

Hmm, lets test that theory,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/p​lum-line/wp/2018/09/05/republicans-kee​p-on-trying-to-strip-protections-for-p​re-existing-conditions/

FTA: "The suit claims that since in the tax bill last year Congress reduced the individual mandate's penalty for not carrying health insurance to $0, that means the mandate itself is no longer valid, and if the mandate isn't valid, that means the entire law should be struck down. (The Trump administration's position is that the insurance regulations, including the ban on denials for preexisting conditions, should be struck down, but provisions like the expansion of Medicaid could stay.)"

Look, I found 20 states with GOP attorney generals and an administration that is stupid enough to go after that.


Also, as an added bonus, they are saying the law is unconstitutional only because they removed its tax penalty... which honestly now that I think about it, doesn't that mean the law that removed the penalty is unconstitutional not the affordable care act? I mean I'm new to calvin ball but if you were to say, pass a law modifying social security so that it requires everyone paying into or receiving funds from social security to never participate in a religion (obviously unconstitutional), wouldn't it stand to reason that your shiatty law that modified social security was unconstitutional not the original law? So is it a reasonable defense to say, Yes absolutely removing the mandate penalty makes this all unconstitutional, so restore the mandate penalty asshats since that is what violates the constitutionality of this law.
 
2018-09-14 10:44:00 AM  

flondrix: Karac: Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare. It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.

I think cutting social security and medicare is the one thing that could actually turn the base against the GOP.
Unless by "cutting" you mean keeping it for the boomers while cutting it for anyone born later.


Millenials are about to overtake Boomers in number of registered voters. While the Boomers would be fine with that strategy you would upset Millenials more than they already are and electrify Gen X on top of that. It would ruin the GOP's electoral chances for decades.
 
2018-09-14 10:49:48 AM  

Cryoteck: flondrix: Karac: Ryan and the GOP have always had a hardon for killing social security and medicare. It's just something about bending granny over and giving her a good farking that gets them all hot and bothered.

I think cutting social security and medicare is the one thing that could actually turn the base against the GOP.
Unless by "cutting" you mean keeping it for the boomers while cutting it for anyone born later.

Millenials are about to overtake Boomers in number of registered voters. While the Boomers would be fine with that strategy you would upset Millenials more than they already are and electrify Gen X on top of that. It would ruin the GOP's electoral chances for decades.


How much of the GOP base is Millenials?  You can keep the young Klansmen and neo-Nazis with racism, while convincing them that social security and medicare are part of the "deep state" and weren't doing them any good anyway.  I mean, when's the last time a Millenial got a social security check?
 
2018-09-14 10:50:55 AM  
So Paul Ryan will be like Moses.  Leading his children to to the promised land but never getting there himself.

Yep, Moses.  Only with better hair.
 
2018-09-14 10:51:30 AM  
Even if they don't keep the House and Senate, they'll still try to kill it, even though it's already dead for practical purposes.
 
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