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(WFAA Fort Worth)   Were you feeling bad about that black man who was killed in his apartment by an off-duty Dallas police officer? Well not to worry, cops found about half an ounce of marijuana in his apartment so, you know... you can stop now   ( wfaa.com) divider line
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2018-09-14 10:41:13 AM  
Called it yesterday (?). Or maybe the day before.

Now all the old white people can relax. They now have a "good" reason for a cop to shoot a black man inside his own home when he didn't do anything wrong.

I think the city will probably pay out millions in a wrongful death settlement and the cop will be told to go not be a cop somewhere else. This shiat isn't going to trial. (shrug)
 
2018-09-14 10:45:14 AM  
Most of the people I have favorited (in good old yellow #3) as "Cop bootlicker" or some variation are not showing up in these threads. Wonder why.
 
2018-09-14 10:45:33 AM  

Prevailing Wind: drayno76: Now I really feel bad for him, not only was he shot by a stupid drunk pig but he was almost out of weed too. 

That just hurts.

Half and ounce is "almost out"?

😳


Yes. A quarter is out out.
 
2018-09-14 10:45:41 AM  

born_yesterday: AugieDoggyDaddy: Okay, the Texas Rangers (assume they did the search) are looking for evidence that there might something that proves that shows that she knew Gene. That she didn't accidentally blunder into his home.   Like a pair of her panties under his pillow.  That's why they take the laptop and cellphone.  The weed?  In Texas it's an illegal substance.  So they took that too.  Imagine if they find a bong in her apartment with residue that matches his weed?  What do ya think that would prove?

That the evil black man was trying to frame her for drug use.


I'd funny you, but too many people would agree with that.
 
2018-09-14 10:47:19 AM  

MythDragon: phenn: xalres: Why the FARK are they searching his apartment?!

Crime scene. They have a legitimate reason to search for spent bullets, blood and any other evidence. No problem with that. What I have a problem with is releasing to the news media that they found barely enough weed for a dinner party and some outlets ran with it.

It's in no way relevant to the case.

Now, they need to search her home. As they should have done days and days ago.

So why did they seize his laptop? What reason did they have to take that?


I assume to see if there is any evidence that connects them personally. Email, chats, etc.
 
2018-09-14 10:47:22 AM  

rebelyell2006: AugieDoggyDaddy: Okay, the Texas Rangers (assume they did the search) are looking for evidence that there might something that proves that shows that she knew Gene. That she didn't accidentally blunder into his home.   Like a pair of her panties under his pillow.  That's why they take the laptop and cellphone.  The weed?  In Texas it's an illegal substance.  So they took that too.  Imagine if they find a bong in her apartment with residue that matches his weed?  What do ya think that would prove?

That she was his dealer?  Perhaps he owed her money.


They need to check the evidence locker.
 
2018-09-14 10:48:38 AM  
How can they arrest him if he's dead?
 
2018-09-14 10:49:43 AM  

tirob: conniemac: There are 5 marijuana dispensaries alone on Main Street in Springfield, Oregon, 8 in total in the city.

Eugene, Oregon has 20 marijuana dispensaries, but they're a bigger city than Springfield, plus Eugene is a university town.


That's too bad.  But I'm sure that the number could be reduced by some good drug education in the schools plus some outreach to abusers.


You are really painfully unfunny in this context.
Grow the f**k up.
 
2018-09-14 10:52:22 AM  

MythDragon: phenn: xalres: Why the FARK are they searching his apartment?!

Crime scene. They have a legitimate reason to search for spent bullets, blood and any other evidence. No problem with that. What I have a problem with is releasing to the news media that they found barely enough weed for a dinner party and some outlets ran with it.

It's in no way relevant to the case.

Now, they need to search her home. As they should have done days and days ago.

So why did they seize his laptop? What reason did they have to take that?


If it works like any reasonable laptop owned by auditors, it's got an encrypted bootloader.
 
2018-09-14 10:53:46 AM  

This text is now purple: The Envoy: This text is now purple: dittybopper: Even odds they planted it.

I'd give higher odds if they hadn't arrested and charged Shooty McCagney yet.

I'm curious if they can tie the bag to him with something other than "location".

Any DNA of his on the bag? Absent that, as a juror, I don't buy it.

Why would that be relevant?  If I was a juror I'd ignore it.

Also: If his prints aren't on it, it's her weed.


Both good points.
 
2018-09-14 10:55:21 AM  

CivicMindedFive: Generation_D: Weaver95: fusillade762: Of course. Because anyone on possession of weed deserves to die.

Is what Fox and the rest of the echo chamber will imply endlessly.

I wonder if the cops realize just how popular cannabis has become in the past decade or so?  this is old skool pre internet level of victim blaming.  its the sort of thing i'd expect from a cliche Texas asshole racist state cop.  its practically a gotdamn writer trope.

They don't give a crap, hell, some cops probably smoke. What they care about is they have an excuse to frame someone whenever a cop effs up.

If weed were legal they'd just plant evidence of something else.

Why would they even plant it?  It in now way helps the cop legally.  I can't imagine even the most anti-MJ person saying "Damn she killed him but he had a joint so good".

I know this may be hard for some here, but imagine the police were 100% investigating this in good faith.  You would expect them to take exactly what they took out of his apartment to further the investigation.  Verify the police backpack is hers and is in a location where she would have dropped it during the shooting.  Take his PC to look for evidence of a relationship (as she would possibly be able to scrub that information on her PC).  Take the shell casings.  Take the medical kit as evidence that she tried to give medical assistance.  If the MJ is in plain sight, it's a non factor in the case, but they can't just leave something illegal so they have to confiscate it.


I'm thinking that they did have some sort of relationship. She claims the door was partially open, but the doors are self closing and locking. Also, she says that he was across the room when shot. Witnesses say that they heard someone pounding on the door and repeatedly saying "let me in!". He opens the door, they exchange words and she shoots him dead. His PC should hold all of the answers.

RIP Botham Jean and may the murderer rot in hell.
 
2018-09-14 10:55:58 AM  

trappedspirit: I would think it the cops planted it they would have used meth.


I wouldn't care unless they found body parts in a freezer. This guy was less of a danger to society than Ms. Rooty-Tooty-Point-n-Shooty.
 
2018-09-14 10:57:04 AM  

Tomahawk513: Colour_out_of_Space: No one is truly innocent. Having Police barge into your apartment and murder you, only to subsequently "find" evidence of minor crimes is a small price to pay for the Freedom we enjoy in the Greatest Country on earth.

My Freedum Boner is so hard right now, you could fly a tiny, tiny flag from it.

/so tiny.


You'd need tiny hands to get that tiny flag on the "pole".

I know a guy.
 
2018-09-14 10:58:05 AM  

whither_apophis: In other news the Ft. Worth PD's evidence locker is missing a half oz of weed


And a metal weed grinder.
 
2018-09-14 11:00:20 AM  
They were involved in some kind of relationship.
She's a farking nutcase that likely skirted the psych eval because the dept needed more women.
They had a spat and she killed him.
Now the dept will cover it all up to hide the fact that they have a murderer on the payroll.
 
2018-09-14 11:01:59 AM  
I'm guessing the 2 were in a relationship, copy lady was nuts and killed him. The vest and backpack they took could have been hers. Also phone and computer taken to verify their relationship over electronic communication.

Remember, neighbors said she was heard banging on the door yelling "let me in!" before the shooting.
 
2018-09-14 11:02:46 AM  

xalres: Why the FARK are they searching his apartment?!


Because it is the scene of a murder?
 
2018-09-14 11:06:59 AM  

ijason: stirfrybry: Any farkers out there in the legal field that can help us design a road map for replacing the police force with a more accountable system? Is there even a legal way for the people to change how they are governed or is that beyond our control? Where the hell do we start?

the design and implementation of a more accountable system is easy :

1. body-cams : if you're on duty, you're on cam, 100%
- video downloaded to a 3rd party server and controlled by a federal agency
- cam failure results in location ping and you're off the clock and required to report immediately to station for replacement
- 3 cam failures results in termination
2. any action involving use of a weapon (lethal or otherwise) gets immediately flagged
- body-cam footage gets packaged with officer reports and sent to a federal agency
- conflicting reports between partners or between reports and cam-footage results in federal investigation

3. mandatory drug testing : if you're a LEO you test monthly
- samples sent to a 3rd party lab controlled by a federal agency
- pop positive 2 times results in termination
4. partner patrolling, no more solo operations.

5. end officer immunity from civil / legal accountability

all my above suggestions would do is standardize a more thorough documentation of officer behavior (point 1-2), reduce two major players in officer misconduct, defusing the "lone wolf" mind-set of single officer patrolling, and preventing steroid/drug abuse (point 3-4), and bring LEOs up to the same level of personal accountability as we expect from medical professionals (point 5).

all 5 would be fought tooth and nail. the methods to add accountability are known. it's a question of why they are never implemented and who benefits from the status quo.


I would add... make their bond/insurance personally paid instead of govt paid. Bond/insurance up for yearly review.
 
2018-09-14 11:07:08 AM  

Weaver95: wow.  so whatever this woman actually did must have been incredibly BAD.  like she just ignored procedure, training, common sense and sanity levels of bad.  I haven't seen THIS blatant a case of victim blaming in a while.

jesus f*ck texas - the hell is WRONG with you!?


Short or long version?
 
2018-09-14 11:07:35 AM  

kcfarker: jjorsett: Paranoia is deep in this thread. I'm the first to acknowledge that the cops and DAs can't necessarily be trusted, but so far none of the known facts has tripped the alarm bells for me. The items seized are consistent with an investigation into what happened and what may have led up to it. Let's see where this goes. With the level of scrutiny this is getting, a cover-up, if one is contemplated, won't be easy.

So the fact that there is no search warrant for the murderous cop's apartment doesn't set off any alarms for you?

And the fact that the DallasPD justified (and a sleazy judge actually granted) a search warrant for the VICTIM'S apartment - only because he's dead which doesn't allow him to consent to the search - doesn't set off any alarms for you?

Sleep well.


You don't get a free warrant to search someone's abode just because they committed a crime.  You still must show some reasonable belief that evidence related to that crime is in said abode, and you have to identify what it is you are looking for.

As to the warrant/search of the victim's house, the outrage is about a big old nothingburger.  You need to catalogue a crime scene, and when it is in someone's residence, a warrant precludes anyone from saying it was an illegal search.  A proper cataloguing also prevents HER defense from trying to claim shenanigans later on.  It also limits the possibility of her creating any other kind of story to try to justify what she did.  IF they hadn't searched his place, and she tried to claim "he had guns" or "he was a dangerous drug dealer" it would be difficult for the prosecutor to refute that.  Her defense lawyer would simply say "we will never know, because the police didn't search the scene."

and before anyone rants about how I'm trying to defend the cops, based on what I've read so far, she deserves a nice long sentence for recklessly murdering the dude.  Even longer if they find out she knew more about what she was doing than she has claimed.
 
2018-09-14 11:10:18 AM  
Just going through the list I remember of unarmed black men that have been gunned down by the cops is a depressing activity. Hell, even some of the guys that were armed didn't deserve it. Cops just quick to bring any situation to an end with gunfire. It is disgusting in itself. Add to it the fact that almost every cop in these cases walks and it becomes something evil.
 
2018-09-14 11:10:22 AM  

stirfrybry: Any farkers out there in the legal field that can help us design a road map for replacing the police force with a more accountable system? Is there even a legal way for the people to change how they are governed or is that beyond our control? Where the hell do we start?


Your local cops are likely employed by either a police or sheriff's department. Police departments are usually a department of your municipal (city, town, etc.) government, and report to the mayor or similar. Sheriff's departments the office of a county level elected official, so report to him/her. In either case, the road map for a more accountable system is to farkING VOTE.
 
2018-09-14 11:12:09 AM  
I just know that if I were murdered by cops, my horrible housekeeping would be plastered all over the front page. "It took three weeks and a team of spelunkers to search Snarfangel's apartment. Officers say it's the first time in memory that a location was actually neater after an intense search than when they started. No illegal items have been found, but a plethora of trash, trinkets, tchotchkes, doodads, geegaws, knicknacks, and curiousities are still being cataloged."
 
2018-09-14 11:13:02 AM  
Since there's been an intruder in his house, (a whole crew of intruders really,) the scene's been tainted, and the weed shouldn't even have been mentioned. Since it was, it's plainly an attempt at character-assassination.
 
2018-09-14 11:13:08 AM  

dittybopper: Even odds they planted it.

I'd give higher odds if they hadn't arrested and charged Shooty McCagney yet.


I dunno.  The Texas Rangers are doing the investigation.  Chuck Norris was a Texas Ranger.  You sayin Chuck plants weed?
Also, tell me how half an oz could convince me that he deserved to be shot?  I don't see how it could exonerate her.  So why do it?
 
2018-09-14 11:14:39 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: dittybopper: Even odds they planted it.

I'd give higher odds if they hadn't arrested and charged Shooty McCagney yet.

I dunno.  The Texas Rangers are doing the investigation.  Chuck Norris was a Texas Ranger.  You sayin Chuck plants weed?


With Chuck Norris, weed plants itself.
 
2018-09-14 11:14:59 AM  
Why the flying fark were the police searching his apartment in the first place?  It's a crime scene, but that means the only things to be catalogued or noted are things relevant to the crime.  It's not license to go poking through cupboards and drawers.
 
2018-09-14 11:17:07 AM  

cefm: Why the flying fark were the police searching his apartment in the first place?  It's a crime scene, but that means the only things to be catalogued or noted are things relevant to the crime.  It's not license to go poking through cupboards and drawers.


You must not be familiar with the police.
 
2018-09-14 11:17:15 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: dittybopper: Even odds they planted it.

I'd give higher odds if they hadn't arrested and charged Shooty McCagney yet.

I dunno.  The Texas Rangers are doing the investigation.  Chuck Norris was a Texas Ranger.  You sayin Chuck plants weed?
Also, tell me how half an oz could convince me that he deserved to be shot?  I don't see how it could exonerate her.  So why do it?


No, it won't exonerate her. It could, however, defame him a bit to make his shooting appear not such a big deal. Muddies the waters.
 
2018-09-14 11:19:02 AM  

Number 216: Generation_D: tirob: conniemac: There are 5 marijuana dispensaries alone on Main Street in Springfield, Oregon, 8 in total in the city.

Eugene, Oregon has 20 marijuana dispensaries, but they're a bigger city than Springfield, plus Eugene is a university town.


That's too bad.  But I'm sure that the number could be reduced by some good drug education in the schools plus some outreach to abusers.

Weirdly enough, I had you already tagged with "anti-pot hysteria."

I've got him tagged as the Alex Jones of Pot Propaganda, which is just as accurate as your tag.

Also found a picture of tirob:

[img.fark.net image 500x288]


I don't tag people, but I mentally refer to him as cannabevets.
 
2018-09-14 11:19:43 AM  

thorpe: DiggityDynomite: I don't see any indication that investigators are looking at the pot as some type of justification for the killing, or trying to sully anyone's name after death.

That's the part of your post I disagree with, for the reasons I stated.


Are we even in agreement that the investigation is ongoing? I understand it's frustrating for people who feel entitled to skip the investigation and have their assumptions validated. Yes the media obtained a list of items removed while investigating the homicide scene. I agree that the media will select which information to direct your attention to in order to fit their agenda (I see FoxNews decided it necessary to highlight that particular tidbit, predictably).

I didn't say the media click-outrage profit machine didn't have an agenda; I said I didn't see indication the investigators are assigning any significance to the pot yet or in what way. Because they haven't. The investigation is ongoing. We don't even know who's weed it is or how it's relevant to the case. Where have you heard how the pot is relevant to the investigation yet? Seems to be only a lot of speculation & assumptions at this point that is making shallow people emotional.
 
2018-09-14 11:19:45 AM  

Munden: She and her family scrubbed their Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts before anyone even heard of her murder, but she forgot her Pinterest account.

Take a wild guess what that was filled with?

[images1.dallasobserver.com image 628x817]

Cop culture is a sickness.  The whole thin blue line mentality is a pernicious poison.


Totally. This one also includes an unintentional bit of clarity into their thinking:
images1.dallasobserver.comView Full Size

The thin blue line runs through the center of "darkness" which "represents the evil in this world." But the line also "stands between good and evil."
So, which one of those dark blocks is supposed to be the good one? Or is this actually revealing that they see everyone who isn't a cop as evil, citizen and criminal alike?
 
2018-09-14 11:21:22 AM  

warrenn: chucknasty:
I find that story hard to believe (there are numbers on apartments). it is the apartment above hers and as someone with a loud upstairs neighbor who stomps around I predict what actually happened was that she went home tired and grouchy and heard stomping and went up to be biatchy about it and because she is above the law when he told to fark off she shot him.

That does seem more plausible based on what we've heard.  From the pictures, the locks on the door appear to be the Saflok InSync RD.  If so, they have an audit trail and should show whether or not she tried to use her fob in his door.  It would also show if she went to her apartment first.


Wow, you know a lot about door locks. (Snarky comment goes here)
You make me wonder if they took the locks too.
 
2018-09-14 11:21:32 AM  

Munden: She and her family scrubbed their Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts before anyone even heard of her murder, but she forgot her Pinterest account.

Take a wild guess what that was filled with?

[images1.dallasobserver.com image 628x817]

Cop culture is a sickness.  The whole thin blue line mentality is a pernicious poison.


images1.dallasobserver.comView Full Size


Guess he should have thanked her after she barged into his apartment.
 
2018-09-14 11:24:34 AM  

Theaetetus: Munden: She and her family scrubbed their Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts before anyone even heard of her murder, but she forgot her Pinterest account.

Take a wild guess what that was filled with?

[images1.dallasobserver.com image 628x817]

Cop culture is a sickness.  The whole thin blue line mentality is a pernicious poison.

Totally. This one also includes an unintentional bit of clarity into their thinking:
[images1.dallasobserver.com image 556x853]
The thin blue line runs through the center of "darkness" which "represents the evil in this world." But the line also "stands between good and evil."
So, which one of those dark blocks is supposed to be the good one? Or is this actually revealing that they see everyone who isn't a cop as evil, citizen and criminal alike?


img.fark.netView Full Size


Here you go! Now it's obvious which side is good.
 
2018-09-14 11:30:13 AM  

Zafler: Number 216: Generation_D: tirob: conniemac: There are 5 marijuana dispensaries alone on Main Street in Springfield, Oregon, 8 in total in the city.

Eugene, Oregon has 20 marijuana dispensaries, but they're a bigger city than Springfield, plus Eugene is a university town.


That's too bad.  But I'm sure that the number could be reduced by some good drug education in the schools plus some outreach to abusers.

Weirdly enough, I had you already tagged with "anti-pot hysteria."

I've got him tagged as the Alex Jones of Pot Propaganda, which is just as accurate as your tag.

Also found a picture of tirob:

[img.fark.net image 500x288]

I don't tag people, but I mentally refer to him as cannabevets.


There is another farker that I have come to refer to as weed bevets.  I'm surprised he hasn't shown up yet.
 
2018-09-14 11:31:27 AM  

Prevailing Wind: drayno76: Now I really feel bad for him, not only was he shot by a stupid drunk pig but he was almost out of weed too. 

That just hurts.

Half and ounce is "almost out"?

😳


I was thinking, Damn, I need to get to know this dude.
 
2018-09-14 11:32:50 AM  
Remember:  If you're not cops, you're little people.
 
2018-09-14 11:33:18 AM  

Cataholic: a nice long sentence for recklessly murdering the dude


Recklessly would be if she fired her weapon into the darkness, not actually intending to shoot anyone, but with a strong likelihood that someone would likely get hit. Specifically, in Texas:
(a)A person acts intentionally, or with intent, with respect to the nature of his conduct or to a result of his conduct when it is his conscious objective or desire to engage in the conduct or cause the result...
(c)A person acts recklessly, or is reckless, with respect to circumstances surrounding his conduct or the result of his conduct when he is aware of but consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the circumstances exist or the result will occur. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that its disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that an ordinary person would exercise under all the circumstances as viewed from the actor's standpoint.

According to her, she intentionally shot him. She's claiming self defense, not that she didn't know anyone was there and just likes firing guns in dark apartments.
 
2018-09-14 11:34:03 AM  

Snarfangel: Theaetetus: Munden: She and her family scrubbed their Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts before anyone even heard of her murder, but she forgot her Pinterest account.

Take a wild guess what that was filled with?

[images1.dallasobserver.com image 628x817]

Cop culture is a sickness.  The whole thin blue line mentality is a pernicious poison.

Totally. This one also includes an unintentional bit of clarity into their thinking:
[images1.dallasobserver.com image 556x853]
The thin blue line runs through the center of "darkness" which "represents the evil in this world." But the line also "stands between good and evil."
So, which one of those dark blocks is supposed to be the good one? Or is this actually revealing that they see everyone who isn't a cop as evil, citizen and criminal alike?

[img.fark.net image 556x853]

Here you go! Now it's obvious which side is good.


That's racist.
 
2018-09-14 11:35:44 AM  

It's pronounced pacKAGE: Zafler: Number 216: Generation_D: tirob: conniemac: There are 5 marijuana dispensaries alone on Main Street in Springfield, Oregon, 8 in total in the city.

Eugene, Oregon has 20 marijuana dispensaries, but they're a bigger city than Springfield, plus Eugene is a university town.


That's too bad.  But I'm sure that the number could be reduced by some good drug education in the schools plus some outreach to abusers.

Weirdly enough, I had you already tagged with "anti-pot hysteria."

I've got him tagged as the Alex Jones of Pot Propaganda, which is just as accurate as your tag.

Also found a picture of tirob:

[img.fark.net image 500x288]

I don't tag people, but I mentally refer to him as cannabevets.

There is another farker that I have come to refer to as weed bevets.  I'm surprised he hasn't shown up yet.


Dave's not here, man.
 
2018-09-14 11:38:51 AM  

advex101: Remember:  If you're not cops, you're little people.


img.fark.netView Full Size

Sometimes both.
 
2018-09-14 11:39:47 AM  

warrenn: chucknasty:
I find that story hard to believe (there are numbers on apartments). it is the apartment above hers and as someone with a loud upstairs neighbor who stomps around I predict what actually happened was that she went home tired and grouchy and heard stomping and went up to be biatchy about it and because she is above the law when he told to fark off she shot him.

That does seem more plausible based on what we've heard.  From the pictures, the locks on the door appear to be the Saflok InSync RD.  If so, they have an audit trail and should show whether or not she tried to use her fob in his door.  It would also show if she went to her apartment first.


the neighbors' reports also support this theory.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/botham-j​e​an-shooting-dallas-police-officer-ambe​r-guyger-family-attorney-disputes-acco​unt/

it should likely be first degree murder or at least second, the fact that she is charged with manslaughter is a travesty and shows a complete conflict of interest between the DA and the police (which is probably inherent based on job role but you could at least farking acknowledge that and move these trials to a different district or state to pretend impartiality if you were honest and wanted to present the least pretense the law mattered, instead we get this watered-down police bullshiat, she killed the guy, she lied about why, she will get off because Texas is full of racist rednecks who will be on the jury.
 
2018-09-14 11:41:43 AM  

chucknasty: a complete conflict of interest between the DA and the police (which is probably inherent based on job role but you could at least farking acknowledge that and move these trials to a different district or state to pretend impartiality if you were honest and wanted to present the least pretense the law mattered


Or appoint a public defender as special prosecutor in cases involving cops as defendants. They've got lots of criminal trial experience, and no conflict of interest.
 
2018-09-14 11:42:20 AM  

Theaetetus: Or is this actually revealing that they see everyone who isn't a cop as evil, citizen and criminal alike?


I took a criminology class in my undergrad and that was one of the warnings from the professor: the police have started looking at anyone who isn't a cop as a criminal, regardless of their actual criminality.

That was twenty years ago.
 
2018-09-14 11:42:46 AM  

chucknasty: it should likely be first degree murder or at least second, the fact that she is charged with manslaughter is a travesty


It's been mentioned in other threads on this subject that manslaughter will be a slam dunk. Murder charges could be tougher to convict on in this case.
 
2018-09-14 11:44:07 AM  
According to an article I've read, Guyger had just worked a 15-hour shift.

Honest question: why is anyone carrying a firearm after 15 hours of being awake, especially if they work a high-stress, sometimes dangerous job like being a police officer? I mean, I know there are details we might not have yet, but the basic details seem to be that she parked her car on the wrong floor, went to the apartment she thought was hers, somehow gained entry, thought there was a burglar in the apartment, and used her service weapon to shoot the supposed intruder, which turned out to be Botham Jean. If she's coming home after eight or 12 hours, does she park on the wrong floor?
 
2018-09-14 11:45:38 AM  

durbnpoisn: You can't be serious. You are saying that there is an investigation and that is just one thing they found, and that is what the media decided to report.

That is a load of crap. The police RELEASED that to the media as something relevant to the case, in an obvious attempt at character assassination of the victim.


From TFA: "Two bullet casings, a police backpack and vest and 10.4 grams of marijuana were seized from Botham Jean's apartment, where he was fatally shot by a Dallas police officer last week, according to a search warrant affidavit returned this week... WFAA obtained the returned search warrant Thursday and has reached out to authorities to learn more about the seized items. "

You were saying?
 
2018-09-14 11:46:15 AM  

Theaetetus: chucknasty: a complete conflict of interest between the DA and the police (which is probably inherent based on job role but you could at least farking acknowledge that and move these trials to a different district or state to pretend impartiality if you were honest and wanted to present the least pretense the law mattered

Or appoint a public defender as special prosecutor in cases involving cops as defendants. They've got lots of criminal trial experience, and no conflict of interest.


I'd prefer criminal defense attorneys on a temp gig, rather than the already underfunded and overworked public defender office.
 
2018-09-14 11:46:54 AM  

conniemac: There are 5 marijuana dispensaries alone on Main Street in Springfield, Oregon, 8 in total in the city.

Eugene, Oregon has 20 marijuana dispensaries, but they're a bigger city than Springfield, plus Eugene is a university town.


As for the search warrant garbage and finding a small amount of pot, I willing to bet it was planted in the murder victim's apartment during the search.


If that's the case the family can do a post-mortem and find that he smoked no pot and then NAIL THE PD TO THE WALL.
 
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