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(NPR)   North Carolinians likely to have trouble, however, when the floodwater hits their hog farm waste lagoons   ( npr.org) divider line
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2018-09-11 07:49:00 PM  
Hog farmers won't be the only ones having problems with pigshiat. It's not just going to stay on their farm.
 
2018-09-11 07:53:18 PM  
The solution to enormous lakes of hog shiat in one place subject to flooding is to spray it everywhere to make sure it has a chance for the bacteria to evolve into something previously unknown and still pollute local rivers.

FTA: "There normally are strict limits this kind of spraying, but the state government has declared a state of emergency, allowing farmers to spray more manure on more fields.

Tarping and sealing and sandbagged around would seem to be a better idea.
 
2018-09-11 09:54:31 PM  
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2018-09-11 10:09:56 PM  
Don't forget the coal ash ponds.
 
2018-09-11 10:11:33 PM  
Hogwash?
 
2018-09-11 10:11:46 PM  

Walker: Don't forget the coal ash ponds.


Shiat ponds, coal waste ponds....it's like you guys are advocating for government regulation?  Well shut your whore mouths.  I will not sit here and suffer that kind of commie talk from pinko fools.
 
2018-09-11 10:12:33 PM  
They're pink?
 
2018-09-11 10:14:31 PM  
The shiat just flows down the rivers and into the Albemarle and Pamlico, polluting everything along the way. A lot of the farms were for export to China (wonder if that's changed now)
 
2018-09-11 10:14:45 PM  
When the oil hits the anus?
 
2018-09-11 10:14:58 PM  
They're all gonna die

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2018-09-11 10:14:59 PM  
Now not only the smell, but the taste of others peoples' money.
 
2018-09-11 10:15:51 PM  
Nah, it'll wash 'em out like the Augean stables
 
2018-09-11 10:16:25 PM  
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2018-09-11 10:16:27 PM  
I sense the oncoming press of a Smite Button.
 
2018-09-11 10:16:40 PM  

eurotrader: The solution to enormous lakes of hog shiat in one place subject to flooding is to spray it everywhere to make sure it has a chance for the bacteria to evolve into something previously unknown and still pollute local rivers.

FTA: "There normally are strict limits this kind of spraying, but the state government has declared a state of emergency, allowing farmers to spray more manure on more fields.

Tarping and sealing and sandbagged around would seem to be a better idea.


Processing and cleaning with proper disposal of the solids is a better idea. But that of course cost money.
 
2018-09-11 10:16:45 PM  
So it's going to be bad when the shiat hits the alluvial fan?
 
2018-09-11 10:18:48 PM  

TobaMonsta: The shiat just flows down the rivers and into the Albemarle and Pamlico, polluting everything along the way. A lot of the farms were for export to China (wonder if that's changed now)


Nope, still Smithfield, and thus Chinese owned.
 
2018-09-11 10:19:04 PM  
My dad works for an electric coop. During Irene they were just hauling away dumpster after dumpster of drowned pigs. It was horrifying. He said the smell was indescribable. He just couldn't believe they couldn't just let the gates open and let them run. They knew there was nothing they could do to save them. At least they could've had a chance.
 
2018-09-11 10:21:30 PM  
Right after hurricane Floyd, we were flying our plane over SE NC.
We were flying at around 5000', at night. I kept smelling something and didn't want to ask the other pilot if he'd let one loose.

Finally had enough after 20 minutes and said, "what's that smell?"

"Not me," he said.

Later we became aware that every manure pond in the eastern half of the state had overflowed. What we were smelling was hog shiat a mile up in the air.
 
2018-09-11 10:23:42 PM  
This is how people get Hogwarts.
 
2018-09-11 10:24:35 PM  
Still, bacon.
 
2018-09-11 10:24:46 PM  
For once I think I'd rather be up sh*t creek.

Upwind of it, at least.
 
2018-09-11 10:27:04 PM  
Ok, so they're "pumping them down."  Makes sense.

Where are they pumping it TO?
 
2018-09-11 10:28:23 PM  

WTFDYW: Hog farmers won't be the only ones having problems with pigshiat. It's not just going to stay on their farm.


There's already a ton of it in the state legislative building.
 
2018-09-11 10:28:39 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Ok, so they're "pumping them down."  Makes sense.

Where are they pumping it TO?


Up shiat creek.
 
2018-09-11 10:28:46 PM  

Daddakamabb: My dad works for an electric coop. During Irene they were just hauling away dumpster after dumpster of drowned pigs. It was horrifying. He said the smell was indescribable. He just couldn't believe they couldn't just let the gates open and let them run. They knew there was nothing they could do to save them. At least they could've had a chance.


Feral pigs? Not a good idea. Letting those hogs drown seems cold hearted, however the alternative would have a much worse outcome. Still not pretty.
 
2018-09-11 10:29:36 PM  

Walker: Don't forget the coal ash ponds.


Or the chemical pollution
 
2018-09-11 10:31:21 PM  

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2018-09-11 10:33:00 PM  

Dinodork: Daddakamabb: My dad works for an electric coop. During Irene they were just hauling away dumpster after dumpster of drowned pigs. It was horrifying. He said the smell was indescribable. He just couldn't believe they couldn't just let the gates open and let them run. They knew there was nothing they could do to save them. At least they could've had a chance.

Feral pigs? Not a good idea. Letting those hogs drown seems cold hearted, however the alternative would have a much worse outcome. Still not pretty.


Yep, we're still trying to clean up after the mess the conquistadors left.  Doesn't take long for pigs to go all lord of the flies.
 
2018-09-11 10:38:45 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: When the oil hits the anus?


Is it remarkable?
 
2018-09-11 10:40:55 PM  

Sugarbombs: Dinodork: Daddakamabb: My dad works for an electric coop. During Irene they were just hauling away dumpster after dumpster of drowned pigs. It was horrifying. He said the smell was indescribable. He just couldn't believe they couldn't just let the gates open and let them run. They knew there was nothing they could do to save them. At least they could've had a chance.

Feral pigs? Not a good idea. Letting those hogs drown seems cold hearted, however the alternative would have a much worse outcome. Still not pretty.

Yep, we're still trying to clean up after the mess the conquistadors left.  Doesn't take long for pigs to go all lord of the flies.


See that's the problem right there. Y'all should've never taught them how to read. They would've never found that conch shell and banded together if you hadn't.
 
2018-09-11 10:41:22 PM  

Dinodork: Daddakamabb: My dad works for an electric coop. During Irene they were just hauling away dumpster after dumpster of drowned pigs. It was horrifying. He said the smell was indescribable. He just couldn't believe they couldn't just let the gates open and let them run. They knew there was nothing they could do to save them. At least they could've had a chance.

Feral pigs? Not a good idea. Letting those hogs drown seems cold hearted, however the alternative would have a much worse outcome. Still not pretty.


Some people like being boar'd.
 
2018-09-11 10:44:27 PM  
Pig farms are bad, poultry farms are worse, though maybe their total volume of waste is less?
 
2018-09-11 10:46:27 PM  
You would think they would have to have some kind of sewage processing system like they do with human poo.
 
2018-09-11 10:48:53 PM  

Daddakamabb: NotThatGuyAgain: Ok, so they're "pumping them down."  Makes sense.

Where are they pumping it TO?

Up shiat creek.


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2018-09-11 10:49:30 PM  

Daddakamabb: My dad works for an electric coop. During Irene they were just hauling away dumpster after dumpster of drowned pigs. It was horrifying. He said the smell was indescribable. He just couldn't believe they couldn't just let the gates open and let them run. They knew there was nothing they could do to save them. At least they could've had a chance.


Probably for insurance & liability issues.  Federal crop Insurance prolly pays out for drowned hogs, & feral pigs & invasive species.  The feral hogs YOU let loose are a legal liability.
 
2018-09-11 10:50:19 PM  
it's kind of in God's hands

What does God need with a pool filled with manure ?
 
2018-09-11 10:51:34 PM  
But enough about their legislature ...

2nd time I've used that today, LOL
 
2018-09-11 10:57:04 PM  

UNC_Samurai: WTFDYW: Hog farmers won't be the only ones having problems with pigshiat. It's not just going to stay on their farm.

There's already a ton of it in the state legislative building.


That was the weirdest thing about going east to school in NC ~ hearing hog reports during the news and radio.

When I checked the tracking Monday asked my GF who knows the area, 'How many hog waste ponds are going to break due to Flo?' Now it's not humorous and it makes me pissed at the leeway they hold on the rest of the state.

First time I heard 'pork barrel' I assumed it pertained to NC politics. Apparently it still does.
 
2018-09-11 11:01:00 PM  
this has already happened almost 2 decades ago. With the fallout and bio hazard that followed; there were so many calls to change open pit hog farm runoffs, and ash ponds.

So I guess this means the legislature never got around to legislating all that??  Well at least they can console themselves w/ all that sweet sweet money. And not having to live through a horrific flood that is also a biological disaster that will kill them and their children. That sorta thing is for the poor voters to endure.....
 
2018-09-11 11:03:48 PM  

winedrinkingman: You would think they would have to have some kind of sewage processing system like they do with human poo.


They do.  They put it in lagoons and let bacteria turn everything pink.
 
2018-09-11 11:07:24 PM  

Daddakamabb: NotThatGuyAgain: Ok, so they're "pumping them down."  Makes sense.

Where are they pumping it TO?

Up shiat creek.


I could have actually read the whole article:

On her farm, they're spending part of the day pumping liquid waste out of their lagoons, spraying it as fertilizer on nearby fields, so there's more room for incoming rainfall.

So how much pigshiat gets absorbed/broken down in 3 days?  More than zero I suppose but it still sounds like it'll be a problem.  But I don't know shiat about pigshiat other than riding past pig farms on a motorcycle is a vile experience.
 
2018-09-11 11:07:57 PM  
I ask Vaughan if the ponds really could handle such a deluge.
"We don't really know," she says. "I mean, we try to pump down as much as we can, but after that, it's kind of in God's hands. We're kind of at the mercy of the storm."


Sure, now it's in God's hands but when you were building your containment system it was still in yours.
 
2018-09-11 11:10:26 PM  
Hey, better than having those commie liberals regulating where and how people store their pig sh*t, right?  Remember that as pink pig sh*t bacteria washes through your waterways, contaminating everything, killing wildlife, and costing taxpayers millions in cleanup: at least there's no job-killin' regulations.
 
2018-09-11 11:13:40 PM  
If Trump helps the state like he did Puerto Rico, they are screwed.
 
2018-09-11 11:18:02 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: If Trump helps the state like he did Puerto Rico, they are screwed.


The Carolinas are his base. They are going to get special treatment.
 
2018-09-11 11:27:31 PM  

cgraves67: Pointy Tail of Satan: If Trump helps the state like he did Puerto Rico, they are screwed.

The Carolinas are his base. They are going to get special treatment.


Are there any Trump properties in the Carolinas?
 
2018-09-11 11:31:18 PM  
So, the best Trump could do in Puerto Rico was show up and toss out some towels. Anyone think that he will even make an appearance in an area bathed in hog shiat?
 
2018-09-11 11:43:06 PM  

WTFDYW: Hog farmers won't be the only ones having problems with pigshiat. It's not just going to stay on their farm.


Their yards will soon smell like their politics
 
2018-09-11 11:44:51 PM  

baron von doodle: So, the best Trump could do in Puerto Rico was show up and toss out some towels. Anyone think that he will even make an appearance in an area bathed in hog shiat?


Puerto Rico wasn't seen as a viable voter pool, which is why the Trump administration and the GOP became alarmed when Puerto Ricans evacuated to the mainland - they can vote, after all, once they've moved here, and it apparently didn't occur to them that dragging their heels on helping Puerto Rico would translate into potentially losing Florida.

The Carolinas? Hell, yeah, he'll make an appearance - he'll make a huge show of helping out "the common farmer," even as he diverts funding to some of the largest agribusinesses on the goddamned planet and ignores the very folks to whom he's pandering. Lots of sound and fury, signifying nothing, but he'll make an appearance.
 
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