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(The Daily Beast)   Neighbors dispute account of Officer Shooty McLost. Knocking, a woman's voice saying, "Let me in. Let me in," then gunshots, then, "Oh my god, why did you do that?"   ( thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2018-09-11 04:13:57 PM  
Wow.  Kinda makes it murder, if that is true.  Dallas is gonna burn if she gets off.
 
2018-09-11 04:23:56 PM  
Murder, she wrote.
 
2018-09-11 04:37:02 PM  
Quick plea deal in 3....2....
 
2018-09-11 04:37:34 PM  
Chick needs to go to jail for murder.
 
2018-09-11 04:38:44 PM  

stir22: Wow.  Kinda makes it murder, if that is true.  Dallas is gonna burn if she gets off.


Does she sploosh kerosene?
 
2018-09-11 04:39:19 PM  
Huh...  Well, we all said there was more to this story.

At this point, it's time to put the pause button on the speculation and wait to see what the truth of the matter is.

Lover's spat?
 
2018-09-11 04:39:34 PM  
If that's true, then neither the original statement that she attempted to unlock the door then was startled by him opening it, or her second version where the door wasn't shut all the way and just opened when she tried to put her key in are even close to true.
 
2018-09-11 04:39:49 PM  
If she thought the apartment was hers and there was an intruder, why did she ask to get let in? Would she have either used her own key or called for back-up?

/Me thinks she just wanted to kill her neighbor.
 
2018-09-11 04:40:35 PM  

The Derp Stops Here: Chick needs to go to jail for murder.


Nah, let's just string her up from a light pole.
 
2018-09-11 04:40:58 PM  
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2018-09-11 04:42:30 PM  

durbnpoisn: Huh...  Well, we all said there was more to this story.

At this point, it's time to put the pause button on the speculation and wait to see what the truth of the matter is.

Lover's spat?


I lean this way.  Something between them and it didn't go the way to she wanted.
 
2018-09-11 04:42:41 PM  
Wait - are you implying that a police officer would actually stoop to lying to cover their own ass? That's not possible, is it?
 
2018-09-11 04:43:45 PM  

BooksontheBrain: /Me thinks she just wanted to kill her neighbor.


Guy isn't gonna clump around up there at all hours of the night anymore.

/This was always my take on this thing.
 
2018-09-11 04:43:57 PM  

BlueBox: durbnpoisn: Huh...  Well, we all said there was more to this story.

At this point, it's time to put the pause button on the speculation and wait to see what the truth of the matter is.

Lover's spat?

I lean this way.  Something between them and it didn't go the way to she wanted.


or she just is terrible at being a cop and human being?
 
2018-09-11 04:44:48 PM  
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What a shot Bothan may look like
 
2018-09-11 04:44:51 PM  

vudukungfu: Murder, she wrote.


Or 'Murder, she likes.'

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2018-09-11 04:44:52 PM  
But was the deceased soooo CREEPY?
 
2018-09-11 04:46:23 PM  

JudgeSmails: BlueBox: durbnpoisn: Huh...  Well, we all said there was more to this story.

At this point, it's time to put the pause button on the speculation and wait to see what the truth of the matter is.

Lover's spat?

I lean this way.  Something between them and it didn't go the way to she wanted.

or she just is terrible at being a cop and human being?


I'd need to see a better pic of her eyes..  but we know one of those already is true.  Combo in play
 
2018-09-11 04:47:30 PM  
And it gets worse: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime​/​2018/09/10/botham-jeans-killing-dallas​-officer-sparks-protest-police-headqua​rters

So:
- officer fires weapon on peaceful law-abiding citizen
- people come out to protest
- another officer fires weapon on peaceful law-abiding protestors

Thankfully a non-lethal weapon in the second case.
 
2018-09-11 04:48:00 PM  
She's lying.
 
2018-09-11 04:48:08 PM  

BlueBox: durbnpoisn: Huh...  Well, we all said there was more to this story.

At this point, it's time to put the pause button on the speculation and wait to see what the truth of the matter is.

Lover's spat?

I lean this way.  Something between them and it didn't go the way to she wanted.


Makes a lot of sense.  It explains "Let me in"  and also explains how a cop could be so lacking in situation awareness that she didn't notice any of the clues that it wasn't her home.
 
2018-09-11 04:48:16 PM  
It's hard to invent the story whole cloth after killing the only witness when there are actually other witnesses.
 
2018-09-11 04:49:11 PM  
Don't stick your dick in crazy?
 
2018-09-11 04:49:16 PM  

Fear the Clam: BooksontheBrain: /Me thinks she just wanted to kill her neighbor.

Guy isn't gonna clump around up there at all hours of the night anymore.

/This was always my take on this thing.


I think she was on the floor above him. It could be that he complained about her clomping.
 
2018-09-11 04:50:22 PM  
Yeah, that manslaughter charge needs to be changed to 1st degree murder. Either they were involved with each other or she wanted them to be.
 
2018-09-11 04:50:26 PM  
She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.
 
2018-09-11 04:51:44 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [img.fark.net image 600x446]


A convicted felon who sold meth and a gun to an undercover cop then ran.  Not that it justifies him being shot but the dead guy was literally part of the drug and illegal gun problem in this country.  I can't conjure up much sympathy for him.

/Context
 
2018-09-11 04:54:00 PM  
she's trying to line up the "citizen failed to follow directions" excuse that actually works very well.  A surprising number of authoritarian bootlickers buy that reasoning for anything done by an officer.
 
2018-09-11 04:55:21 PM  

wearetheworld: She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.


The current talking point from the right is that she gave verbal commands as an officer and the victim did not obey, so he deserved to be shot. So there's kinda mixed signals on whether she was acting as a LEO or not, even though she was off duty.
 
2018-09-11 04:55:36 PM  

wearetheworld: She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.


No fantasizing required as it happens all the time
 
2018-09-11 04:55:59 PM  

durbnpoisn: Huh...  Well, we all said there was more to this story.
At this point, it's time to put the pause button on the speculation and wait to see what the truth of the matter is.
Lover's spat?


I'm guessing she was extremely drunk or high. Of course I'm sure that she wasn't tested or the results were conveniently "lost".
 
2018-09-11 04:57:07 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Not that it justifies him being shot but


There is no "but" here. We need to stop making victims of police murders have to prove their innocence.

The only way this isn't murder is if the penalty for petty drug dealing and arms sales is immediate arbitrary execution. It's not.
 
2018-09-11 04:57:08 PM  

wearetheworld: She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.


Go away, cringelord.
 
2018-09-11 04:57:20 PM  

cgraves67: wearetheworld: She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.

The current talking point from the right is that she gave verbal commands as an officer and the victim did not obey, so he deserved to be shot. So there's kinda mixed signals on whether she was acting as a LEO or not, even though she was off duty.


I wonder how this would be being spun if he had shot the Intruder in his home.
 
2018-09-11 04:57:48 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [img.fark.net image 600x446]

A convicted felon who sold meth and a gun to an undercover cop then ran.  Not that it justifies him being shot but the dead guy was literally part of the drug and illegal gun problem in this country.  I can't conjure up much sympathy for him.

/Context


User name checks out.
 
2018-09-11 04:57:51 PM  

stir22: Wow.  Kinda makes it murder, if that is true.  Dallas is gonna burn if she gets off.


Buy stock in fire Extinguishers, because blue lives MATTER.
 
2018-09-11 04:57:53 PM  

Troy McClure: she's trying to line up the "citizen failed to follow directions" excuse that actually works very well.


So she is simultaneously saying that
- it was too dark in there for me to see that it was not my own apartment
- there was plenty of light for him to see that I was a police officer in full uniform
 
2018-09-11 04:58:14 PM  
This is going to make for one awkward block party.
 
2018-09-11 04:58:23 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [img.fark.net image 600x446]

A convicted felon who sold meth and a gun to an undercover cop then ran.  Not that it justifies him being shot but the dead guy was literally part of the drug and illegal gun problem in this country.  I can't conjure up much sympathy for him.

/Context


We don't shoot at people who are running away from us in this country.

Well, we're not supposed to.
 
2018-09-11 04:58:27 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [img.fark.net image 600x446]

A convicted felon who sold meth and a gun to an undercover cop then ran.  Not that it justifies him being shot but the dead guy was literally part of the drug and illegal gun problem in this country.  I can't conjure up much sympathy for him.

/Context


And you would be wrong. It should not matter that there are "bad guys" involved. We expect this, cops are supposed to be law enforcement officers. Cops are not supposed to be summery jury, judge and executioners. Unless a suspect is using lethal force against a LEO, there should be no right for an LEO to use lethal force. Afraid of getting your asked kicked a little in a scuffle with a bad guy? Maybe you should be an accountant instead of cop.
 
2018-09-11 04:58:32 PM  
She committed a burglary, in TX that's a felony. She committed a homicide during that felony, meaning felony murder.
 
2018-09-11 04:59:29 PM  

dj_bigbird: She committed a burglary, in TX that's a felony. She committed a homicide during that felony, meaning felony murder.


Don't they execute felony murderers in Texas?
 
2018-09-11 04:59:46 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: [img.fark.net image 600x446]

A convicted felon who sold meth and a gun to an undercover cop then ran.  Not that it justifies him being shot but the dead guy was literally part of the drug and illegal gun problem in this country.  I can't conjure up much sympathy for him.

/Context


Context? He was killed by a 73 year old civilian playing cop and pulled his pistol (supposedly) when he thought it was his taser.

There's your context.

Oh and the old white guy did no time. Funny.
 
2018-09-11 05:01:21 PM  

sunderland56: Troy McClure: she's trying to line up the "citizen failed to follow directions" excuse that actually works very well.

So she is simultaneously saying that
- it was too dark in there for me to see that it was not my own apartment
- there was plenty of light for him to see that I was a police officer in full uniform


She's also saying she fired her weapon at a target she had not identified.
 
2018-09-11 05:01:21 PM  

wearetheworld: She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.


Even the conservative National Review isn't buying that bullshiat.


https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/0​9​/amber-guyger-botham-jean-shooting-pol​ice-must-face-impartial-justice/
 
2018-09-11 05:01:24 PM  

wearetheworld: She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.


Why don't you get drunk at a bar, go shoot someone, and see if you're treated with the same kid gloves as her.  Go ahead and report back, we'll wait.

/won't ever report back

//unless he's a cop too, of course
 
2018-09-11 05:01:33 PM  
Shooty?
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2018-09-11 05:01:33 PM  

Mr.Insightful: NotThatGuyAgain: Not that it justifies him being shot but

There is no "but" here. We need to stop making victims of police murders have to prove their innocence.

The only way this isn't murder is if the penalty for petty drug dealing and arms sales is immediate arbitrary execution. It's not.


Do you not realize I was replying to a picture comment and not about TFA?

I personally wouldn't mind the death penalty for people who sell meth or illegal guns in any quantity.  Maybe not the first conviction but after that?  F*ck them.
 
2018-09-11 05:01:43 PM  
Sounds like they would have a pretty good case for 1st degree murder or at least 2nd degree
 
2018-09-11 05:01:50 PM  

AquaTatanka: cgraves67: wearetheworld: She wasn't a police officer at the time of the shooting.  She was just a drunk coming home from a bar.  Not sure why farkers fantasize about officers shooting civilians.

The current talking point from the right is that she gave verbal commands as an officer and the victim did not obey, so he deserved to be shot. So there's kinda mixed signals on whether she was acting as a LEO or not, even though she was off duty.

I wonder how this would be being spun if he had shot the Intruder in his home.


The NRA said that they would have had his back if he had a gun and shot an intruder. But we all remember Philandro Castile.
 
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