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(The State)   South Carolina governor orders mandatory evacuation rather than gamble even one life, but also amends state law to specify that inmates in coastal prisons are not legally alive   ( thestate.com) divider line
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2018-09-11 04:43:43 PM  
How else will Randall Flagg be able to reach out to them?
 
2018-09-11 04:52:31 PM  
You're locked up in a cell.....the water's risin', the guards have fled....

WHAT DO YOU DO?
 
2018-09-11 04:53:52 PM  
How very Pro-Life of him.
 
2018-09-11 04:54:22 PM  
Nice. This is also a state that pays their prison guards chicken scratch to the point that they're perpetually understaffed, and now a hurricane means lots of those employees will probably be busy evacuating their families instead of going to work because they aren't paid enough to care.

This will be a huge debacle where inmates will be either rioting or dying (or both).
 
2018-09-11 04:55:15 PM  
It's a prison. It's built like... a prison. They'll be fine. If not, the good lord will be there to judge em. See? I've thought this through.
 
2018-09-11 04:56:51 PM  
If even one inmate dies in this storm due to this law, the governor's life should be forfeit.  Sadly, this being South Carolina, I'm assuming he'll be praised for getting rid of a bunch of n... ear to water inmates.
 
2018-09-11 04:56:57 PM  

stir22: You're locked up in a cell.....the water's risin', the guards have fled....

WHAT DO YOU DO?


Drown
 
2018-09-11 04:57:22 PM  
Meh, according to Wikipedia Ridgeland is 56 feet above sea level so they don't have to worry about storm surge and honestly, if I lived there I'd rather weather the storm in the prison than a stick-built house.

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2018-09-11 04:57:24 PM  
McMaster commented that the darker the color, the more important it was for residents to evacuate.

Poor choice of words.
 
2018-09-11 04:57:38 PM  

anfrind: How very Pro-Life of him.


They've already been born. Why the fark would he care about a silly thing like that?
 
2018-09-11 04:57:54 PM  
"McMaster commented that the darker the color, the more important it was for residents to evacuate. "

McMaster hastened to clarify that he was referring to the color of the map, not the color of the residents.
 
2018-09-11 04:58:14 PM  

mrmopar5287: Nice. This is also a state that pays their prison guards chicken scratch to the point that they're perpetually understaffed, and now a hurricane means lots of those employees will probably be busy evacuating their families instead of going to work because they aren't paid enough to care.

This will be a huge debacle where inmates will be either rioting or dying (or both).


I agree this has the making of an epic cluster fark in the making.    I don't care the guards are not supposed to be able to opt out.   I strongly suspect as you do that many  aren't gonna show anyways and flee with their families.
 
2018-09-11 04:58:59 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Meh, according to Wikipedia Ridgeland is 56 feet above sea level so they don't have to worry about storm surge and honestly, if I lived there I'd rather weather the storm in the prison than a stick-built house.

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Add to that the prison isn't going to get more than tropical storm winds.  They'll be fine.

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2018-09-11 04:59:09 PM  
Republicans are cruel. Fact.
 
2018-09-11 04:59:20 PM  
I've learned over the past years that Catholics are/were pretty smart to place the cathedrals and churches and priories and stuff on high land.  City planners seem to follow their lead.
 
2018-09-11 04:59:54 PM  

Raoul Eaton: McMaster commented that the darker the color, the more important it was for residents to evacuate.

Poor choice of words.


Yeah. I had to reread that to make sure he was talking about maps.

stir22: You're locked up in a cell.....the water's risin', the guards have fled....

WHAT DO YOU DO?


They might find their Christian conscience and free the inmates rather than allow a life to be snuffed out, especially since nobody is paying them enough to put up with that shiat.
 
2018-09-11 05:00:30 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Meh, according to Wikipedia Ridgeland is 56 feet above sea level so they don't have to worry about storm surge and honestly, if I lived there I'd rather weather the storm in the prison than a stick-built house.


That was my thought as well. The prison is probably the strongest building around. Not that this is good but it seems to be a lot more reasonable decision than initially indicated.
 
2018-09-11 05:00:32 PM  

stir22: You're locked up in a cell.....the water's risin', the guards have fled....

WHAT DO YOU DO?


Fark up your back trying to help the inmate?

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2018-09-11 05:00:35 PM  

Miniac78: stir22: You're locked up in a cell.....the water's risin', the guards have fled....

WHAT DO YOU DO?

Drown


I hate Choose Your Own Adventure books
 
2018-09-11 05:02:15 PM  

TheAlgebraist: "McMaster commented that the darker the color, the more important it was for residents to evacuate. "

McMaster hastened to clarify that he was referring to the color of the map, not the color of the residents.


McMaster further hastened to clarify that if he was referring to the color of the residents, he would think it would be important for the darker colors to evacuate away from the lighter colors, never to return.
 
2018-09-11 05:02:26 PM  
I prison riot during a hurricane would make a pretty good B movie.
 
2018-09-11 05:02:47 PM  
The map and article are misleading. Their own picture

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shows the prison by Ridgeville, well outside the evac zone.
 
2018-09-11 05:04:32 PM  

grimlock1972: I don't care the guards are not supposed to be able to opt out.


We have this problem/argument nationwide at my government job when there are weather and/or natural disaster issues. It's always management telling people "Show up to work or you're marked AWOL!" It's so hard to get it through their skulls that people physically cannot get to work because roads are closed and/or there is a huge storm preventing people from going anywhere. Blizzards with highway patrol and county sheriffs closing roadways? Bosses still want you to be at work. Hurricanes sweeping in to wipe everything out? Bosses still want you to be at work.
 
2018-09-11 05:05:07 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: NotThatGuyAgain: Meh, according to Wikipedia Ridgeland is 56 feet above sea level so they don't have to worry about storm surge and honestly, if I lived there I'd rather weather the storm in the prison than a stick-built house.

That was my thought as well. The prison is probably the strongest building around. Not that this is good but it seems to be a lot more reasonable decision than initially indicated.


Thick walls, small shatterproof windows, zero threat of storm surge - it's just about perfect.  Even if the place floods from rain it's not going to flood the 2nd floor.  When I went through 'canes in Florida (Wilma was a direct through-the-eye hit) I would have LOVED to have such a place to hunker down.
 
2018-09-11 05:05:26 PM  
What could possibly go wrong?

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2018-09-11 05:06:33 PM  
This will be the first ( and last ) time the Dems have the majority in SC.
 
2018-09-11 05:10:32 PM  
Guards will not have the choice to opt in or out

So much for free will.
 
2018-09-11 05:11:47 PM  
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2018-09-11 05:12:50 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Meh, according to Wikipedia Ridgeland is 56 feet above sea level so they don't have to worry about storm surge and honestly, if I lived there I'd rather weather the storm in the prison than a stick-built house.

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it's not the survival of the storm that is the issue, it is the aftermath

how long before that prison has electricity and fresh water and sanitation after the hurricane hits?
 
2018-09-11 05:17:08 PM  

aseras: The map and article are misleading. Their own picture

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shows the prison by Ridgeville, well outside the evac zone.


You know your map is showing Macdougal CI not Ridgeville CI, right?
 
2018-09-11 05:17:28 PM  
What about the women?

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2018-09-11 05:20:45 PM  
You know, they could at least take this oppurtunity to a least release all the prisoners in there for non-violent drug crimes (aka shouldn't be crimes). Then there will be fewer inmates to tax the prison resources. And knowing how fricking broken the American justice system is, that probably makes up like 50+% of them.
 
2018-09-11 05:21:14 PM  

HempHead: Guards will not have the choice to opt in


That's the part I don't understand. Picture some prison guards being single people who don't have a family to evacuate, or they have family that is being taken care of by other family members. They want to volunteer to stay in place of other co-workers who do need to take care of family and are told NOPE, CAN'T OPT-IN TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE OUT.
 
2018-09-11 05:21:36 PM  

johnsoninca: How else will Randall Flagg be able to reach out to them?


Having literally just finished the Stand (for the whatevereth time) today, I really appreciate this reference.
 
2018-09-11 05:22:13 PM  
One would hope that a prison would be built to withstand extreme winds.
 
2018-09-11 05:22:14 PM  
I RTFA twice and can't see the wharrgarbl that subby claimed.
 
2018-09-11 05:23:16 PM  
they got extra room?
 
2018-09-11 05:24:36 PM  

mrmopar5287: HempHead: Guards will not have the choice to opt in

That's the part I don't understand. Picture some prison guards being single people who don't have a family to evacuate, or they have family that is being taken care of by other family members. They want to volunteer to stay in place of other co-workers who do need to take care of family and are told NOPE, CAN'T OPT-IN TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE OUT.


I suspect HR has already ranked the guards and out those they are willing to let die will be on duty during the hurricane.
 
2018-09-11 05:25:22 PM  
NotThatGuyAgain: (facts)
NotThatGuyAgain: (more facts)

SHhh...you'll just confuse the Outrageously Outraged Farkers (facts)tm .
 
2018-09-11 05:27:17 PM  

Jed_c: This will be the first ( and last ) time the Dems have the majority in SC.


So trump has finally received control of the presidential weather machine??!
 
2018-09-11 05:27:49 PM  

Carousel Beast: I RTFA twice and can't see the wharrgarbl that subby claimed.


welcomeToFark.jpg??
 
2018-09-11 05:30:05 PM  

stir22: You're locked up in a cell.....the water's risin', the guards have fled....

WHAT DO YOU DO?


Just for the record, I did not smart this.
 
2018-09-11 05:31:25 PM  

BeowulfSmith: johnsoninca: How else will Randall Flagg be able to reach out to them?

Having literally just finished the Stand (for the whatevereth time) today, I really appreciate this reference.


Same here.  Finished "Doctor Sleep" last weekend.  King freaking nailed it with that one.
 
2018-09-11 05:34:19 PM  

stir22: You're locked up in a cell.....the water's risin', the guards have fled....

WHAT DO YOU DO?


Oooh, it's the start of the next Elder Scrolls game!
 
2018-09-11 05:34:21 PM  
What Is A Hurricane Like In Prison... ( prison story )
Youtube Hrn3YwWUsZM
 
2018-09-11 05:35:23 PM  
McMaster commented that the darker the color, the more important it was for residents to evacuate.

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2018-09-11 05:37:42 PM  

solokumba: I prison riot during a hurricane would make a pretty good B movie.


Sharknado 7 writers seen typing furiously.  Calls to Tara Reid have not been returned.
 
2018-09-11 05:41:24 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Thick walls, small shatterproof windows, zero threat of storm surge - it's just about perfect.


No electricity, no running water, no working sanitation, no food.  Yeah, perfect.

Why, it might take the prison staff or FEMA 3-4 weeks to respond.  What could go wrong?
 
2018-09-11 05:43:03 PM  

Tater1337: NotThatGuyAgain: Meh, according to Wikipedia Ridgeland is 56 feet above sea level so they don't have to worry about storm surge and honestly, if I lived there I'd rather weather the storm in the prison than a stick-built house.

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it's not the survival of the storm that is the issue, it is the aftermath

how long before that prison has electricity and fresh water and sanitation after the hurricane hits?


Not very long at all because they'll likely be far from the center of the storm.  I went though the eye of Wilma and there was a lot of destruction.  5 miles from the eye wall, not anywhere near as much.

Besides, I'd put down some money that they have generators.  And water since they have a water tower.  In other news, I think the first picture I posted might be the wrong prison.

But still, they will be fine.

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2018-09-11 05:45:49 PM  

indy_kid: Calls to Tara Reid have not been returned.


Yours too?
 
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