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2004-06-28 9:31:16 AM  
nice job, michael moore.
 
2004-06-28 9:31:37 AM  
the majority of americans seem to think that the handover in Iraq means the troops get to come home. what do you think is going to happen to Bush's numbers in three months when the troops are still there, with no sign of withdrawal?
 
2004-06-28 9:34:11 AM  
Wait, you mean they handed power over early, and it just so happened to be when 9F9/11 came out? Trying to steal some of MM's thunder?

Won't work. Not everyone is dumb enough to fall for it.
 
2004-06-28 9:35:00 AM  
attaturk2004

Why won't you ever post your hate-filled rhetoric on Fark like the rest? You always link to some drivel you've written somewhere else, as if your linking to news, but it's just typical leftist propaganda that you defacated on some blog - as if anybody really gave a damn.


Because (1) They are not posted as if they are news stories, they are clearly, as was this one, posted as not being news stories; (2) Because no one is forcing you or tricking you into going to the link (although for you the threshold may be abysmally low); (3) because Fark is an HTML nightmare; and (4) your mileage is allowed to vary as to what you find humorous.
 
2004-06-28 9:35:28 AM  
Bush couldn't pull out of Iraq early because pulling out is what got Clinton impeached.
 
2004-06-28 9:35:41 AM  
agamoto --
"the majority of americans seem to think that the handover in Iraq means the troops get to come home. what do you think is going to happen to Bush's numbers in three months when the troops are still there, with no sign of withdrawal?"


Sorry, not believing that one. I can't believe any population is that stupid except for the Euro Pussy Belt.
 
2004-06-28 9:35:45 AM  
Am I the only one that is completely amused by the fact that Fark had this posted several hours before msn.com had it posted in their "breaking news" section? And people ask me why I go to Fark for my news....Hah!
 
2004-06-28 9:36:08 AM  
"Congradulations President Bush. Condolences leftest vomit"

nice spelling, poindexter.
 
2004-06-28 9:36:15 AM  
You mean them Iraqis got control of Iraq again? I'm going to have to speak to Rummy to see about how we can liberate them.
 
2004-06-28 9:37:16 AM  
agamoto: the numbers will drop. Bush & Co. will have to pull out a new shiney object for the American sheeple, like pulling Osama out of a spider-hole, a.k.a. the "October Surprise"

What's the over/under on the October Surprise anyway? I got $5 that it is on or before 10/22/04
 
2004-06-28 9:37:24 AM  
itsfiveoclocksomewhere: I'd love to think that people aren't that dumb, but then I look at half the posts here.
 
2004-06-28 9:37:44 AM  
Shiat!
No wonder the people there don't know when to start throwing flowers.
 
2004-06-28 9:39:28 AM  
Well, the proof is in the pudding, as they say.

Wasn't there talk about declaring marial law and suspending elections? Or have they backed away from that?

NATO has agreed, in theory, to train Iraqi Police forces, but this was much less help than the administration had hoped for.

At this point, insurgent attacks have become well organized and far more brazen then we've seen in the past.

This isn't any kind of ending, this is only a beginning, and a shakey beginning to boot.

Let's keep it in perspective.
 
2004-06-28 9:41:28 AM  
"Congradulations President Bush. Condolences leftest vomit"

nice spelling, poindexter.


Doesn't matter if he misspelled neocongradullations and Condoleezza, the meat of the message is clear.
 
2004-06-28 9:41:28 AM  
2004-06-28 09:18:38 AM keylock71

Haven't read all the comments, so forgive me if this has been said, but this was a shrewd move on America's part to ensure no nasty little attacks at the big handover ceremony.

A step in the right direction, but we'll see what happens in the next few weeks.


A more realistic timetable would be the next two years. Nothing miraculous will happen negatively or positively over the next few weeks.
 
2004-06-28 9:42:03 AM  
I can't stand an ymore of this!!
 
2004-06-28 9:42:41 AM  
"Its really sick that you want Iraq to fail based on partisanship."

right. that's exactly what we want.

idiot.
 
2004-06-28 9:42:54 AM  
I too, do not understand why those whos party is dominiated by unionists and trial lawyers would be so pessimistic.

They've lost the house the senate and the white house, but why the long faces?
 
2004-06-28 9:42:56 AM  
I'm just a caveman, but what does the mobius strip symbol mean in this context?
 
2004-06-28 9:45:58 AM  
son of secret police --


Try reading the thread. That's exactly what y'all have said.
 
2004-06-28 9:46:06 AM  
"Its really sick that you want Iraq to fail based on partisanship."

right. that's exactly what we want.


Three cheers for honesty!
 
2004-06-28 9:46:28 AM  
Sorry, not believing that one. I can't believe any population is that stupid except for the Euro Pussy Belt

Oh yeah, the pussy euros, like the pussy English who sent troops to Iraq, and those hated pussy French who sent who sent troops to Afghanistan.

Nice solidarity, Ohm. Go stuff your face with some freedom fries.
 
2004-06-28 9:46:31 AM  
2004-06-28 09:41:28 AM SherKhan

Bwahaha!

All abord the express condoleeza!

/kundalini
 
2004-06-28 9:47:47 AM  
They got what they wanted. They got to blow 127.5 billion dollars (write it out sometime, it's a pretty big number) and sign on the check memo line "war on terror". The US only had to incurr 88 percent of the total cost of the war...not a bad price tag to get rid of such a powerful, world dominating force, such as Saddam and his 2 sons posed.
Just to get it straight:

1991 Persian Gulf War:
Remove Iraqi army from Kuait.
Estimated Cost: $45 billion for all allies involved
Total Cost:US ended up paying out 7.4 billion (which was 12 percent of total cost)

2003-2004 Iraq War(re:Terror):
Get rid of Saddam and his WMD's or something, regime change, free the camel humping sand nubians, democratic flower in the desert....repeat, spin, etc.
Estimated cost:
(September 15th 2002) White House economic advisor Lawrence Lindsay estimated the cost to be 1-2% of GNP, or about $100-$200 billion.
He was immediately fired for his wild assertions
(Jan,19,2003)Donny Rumsfeld-"Well, the Office of Management and Budget, has come up come up with a number that's something under $50 billion for the cost. How much of that would be the U.S. burden, and how much would be other countries, is an open question."

I was told Iraq's vast oil reserves would pay for it, but they must have run out of checks that day. But that's the price of war, not to mention all the people who have died, lost limbs or suffered mental and physical trauma.

SO who is going to step up and be the next "Urgent Threat"?
 
2004-06-28 9:48:28 AM  
sroth --
"Oh yeah, the pussy euros, like the pussy English who sent troops to Iraq, and those hated pussy French who sent who sent troops to Afghanistan. Nice solidarity, Ohm. Go stuff your face with some freedom fries."


Do you know what the Euro Pussy Belt is jackass? Pick up a map and walk along with me...

Spain, France, Germany.

Any questions?

Too bad, stfu anyway.
 
2004-06-28 9:48:48 AM  
Um, (shuffle feet), here is your country back. And never mind the craters, the left-over bomblets, the uranium that will screw up your children for decades from our bullets, and just forget about all the terrorists blowing you up. Oh yeah, and ignore the islamic psychos... because you are responsible for all this now.

See ya.

PS- a soldier whose livejournal I keep up with has lost 40 pounds in 4 months being in Iraq. Now that is weight loss, from a size 12 to a size 6, though not in the most pleasant of way
 
2004-06-28 9:49:25 AM  
* swallows his dosage of Prozac *

It's All Good Now!

Iraq can now have open and free elections, not decided by Supreme Courts, but by The People! Outstanding!

Along with that, they can have leaders without too many conflicts of interest. Conflicts of interest just look bad in positions of power and should be avoided.

Thank goodness there will be a country in the world which has the opportunity to be what America once was! We should send them The Statue of Liberty!
 
2004-06-28 9:50:00 AM  
Good.
 
2004-06-28 9:50:01 AM  
2004-06-28 09:48:28 AM Omega Ohm

You must be a toby keith fan?
 
2004-06-28 9:51:19 AM  
maffick --

Nope.
 
2004-06-28 9:51:26 AM  
re: from a size 12 to a size 6

but how is her rack?
 
2004-06-28 9:51:29 AM  
a little confused:

please answer - other than administrative power turning over from Paul Bremer to Iraq interim Prez, what does this mean?

And does handover of administrative power do much to a country that is under US martial law?

Not trying to troll, actually would like to get an unbiased answer
 
2004-06-28 9:52:37 AM  
FYI just because we handed over Iraq to its government does not mean we (our troops) are pulling out. We are not done, we will be there for quite some time assisting and helping to enforce the establishments of the new government. So if you think we are done, think again.
 
2004-06-28 9:52:58 AM  
Nothing miraculous will happen negatively or positively over the next few weeks.

Negative miracles? Aren't such negative acts of God simply called acts of God?

/seems I have found a semantic conundrum to chew on.
 
2004-06-28 9:54:07 AM  
please answer - other than administrative power turning over from Paul Bremer to Iraq interim Prez, what does this mean?

More angry lefties. More angry terrorists.

Not that they have any goals in common. No sir.
 
2004-06-28 9:55:39 AM  
No mafflick, Omega Ohm knows what the euro pussy belt is!

Walk along with him and be educated. Ignore the facts, like the thousands of French troops in Afghanistan (where terrorism actually existed before 9/11, before the invasion of Iraq). And the Germans and the Spanish, they're pussies too! Omega Ohm said so.

And if you don't agree with Ohm, then STFU. Such is the wisdom and the wit of Ohm, those who do not agree with him are dismissed. Hmmm, where have I seen that before?
 
2004-06-28 9:56:07 AM  
"the uranium that will screw up your children for decades from our bullets"
_____________________

??????? Anyone?
 
2004-06-28 9:56:14 AM  
Miccosukee
did you miss that he asked for "an unbiased answer"?
/just wondering
 
2004-06-28 9:56:23 AM  
Has anyone else noticed how Allawi looks just like all the other old white guys in power right now...
 
2004-06-28 9:56:53 AM  
SherKhan

When did you become a Gold Star FARKer?
 
2004-06-28 9:57:15 AM  
[image from stampsforthememories.com too old to be available]

And the icing on the cake would be the capture and excecution of Usama and Al-Zarqawi. The means of excecution would be: 1) strapped onto the front of a plane and then crashing the plane into the ground and 2) beheading, respectivley.

They'll pay one way or the other.
 
2004-06-28 9:57:19 AM  
2004-06-28 09:41:28 AM TheConvincingSavant

A more realistic timetable would be the next two years. Nothing miraculous will happen negatively or positively over the next few weeks.

Beg to differ. In the next few weeks we will see what kind of power the new government is going to weild. Will Iraqi security forces be able to effectively fight the insurgents, who will undoubtably use this flux time to increase their attacks? How are the people of Iraq going to react if they do indeed declare matial law and suspend any elections? Are the people going to support the new government or veiw it as a puppet of American occupation?

Granted, major changes will occur slowly over the next few years, but what happens in the immediate future is not something to be dismissed.
 
2004-06-28 9:57:59 AM  
I'm all for us finally giving over absolute control to the Iraqi people, which is something we were getting to anyway, but I have this feeling that this won't change or help the situation there. Things are still too unstable.

Can they pull this off and turn Iraq around? Maybe. No way to be sure.

I, for one, welcome the return of the Iraqi overlords. Let's hope they can get their collective shiat together and fix the nation.
 
2004-06-28 9:58:30 AM  
so, omega ohm, just wondering...if the UK decides to kick Blair out next election (which is entirely possible) and the new leader pulls brits out of Iraq, does that mean that they will be in the Euro Pussy Belt too?
 
2004-06-28 9:59:23 AM  
Even George Bush has announced that Germany is part of the euro pussy belt (pops)

Go figure
 
2004-06-28 9:59:32 AM  
Nobody wants Iraq to fail.

Those opposed to the war want our troops home safely from a war that was waged on false pretenses.

How is that un-American?

I would like a serious reply to this bu a resident neo-con please.
 
2004-06-28 10:01:14 AM  
I don't know, it just showed up this weekend. I didn't sign up for it and have sent a message to the powers that be. It would be against my principles to avail myself of its benefits so I haven't even peeked at what life's like for you TotalFarkers. But the temptation is there, oh yes...

/take a deep breath. A principled liberal is not a conundrum but a redundancy.
 
2004-06-28 10:02:16 AM  
itsfiveoclocksomewhere
This war may or may not be waged on false pretenses, however, how is helping the people of Iraq a negative thing?
 
2004-06-28 10:02:52 AM  
barjockey

The sentence:

"the uranium that will screw up your children for decades from our bullets"

is kinda f/cked up, but I think the point is that DU is nasty shiat (pops)
 
2004-06-28 10:03:30 AM  
barjockey

"the uranium that will screw up your children for decades from our bullets"
_____________________

??????? Anyone?


possible reference to speculation depleted uranium shells causing "gulf war syndrome" in US soldiers after the first incursion?

/may be wrong
 
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