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2018-08-20 11:07:17 PM  
Why should Trudeau be sorry? It was a pretty obvious set-up.

And shame on Andrew Scheer for taking the side of some white-power witch whose only real goal was making Trudeau look bad and getting herself and her hate group on TV.
 
2018-08-21 12:31:38 AM  
Is this about Canada sending their smoke down to my state (WA)?
 
2018-08-21 12:32:07 AM  
Seems Trump has followers in Canada. Sorry aboot that.
 
2018-08-21 12:32:32 AM  
the woman shouted questions in French at Trudeau, asking him when the federal government would repay Quebec for costs it has incurred as a result of an influx of "illegal immigrants" coming over the Canada-U.S. border.

I gotta say she might have a point. Americans suck.
 
2018-08-21 12:38:58 AM  
Instead of a wall, I can see Canada constructing waterfalls. Extensions of Niagra. The American rapists tumbling in barrels to the maple forest.
 
2018-08-21 12:44:51 AM  
This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.
 
2018-08-21 12:50:08 AM  

fusillade762: the woman shouted questions in French at Trudeau, asking him when the federal government would repay Quebec for costs it has incurred as a result of an influx of "illegal immigrants" coming over the Canada-U.S. border.

I gotta say she might have a point. Americans suck.


But also: stop calling it French if they're speaking Quebecois. ALLONS.
 
2018-08-21 12:52:04 AM  
"By sweeping away legitimate questions on his failed border policy with vile personal insults, it is Trudeau himself who is guilty of polarizing the debate. No one has done more to divide Canadians than he has."

Just like Obama was the most racist president ever.
 
2018-08-21 12:54:30 AM  
I support Trudeau, I don't support the RCMP that grabbed and held the lady.

I don't like separatist or racism but I dislike police brutality more.

Unless she was attacking the PM "hands off" dude, free speech no matter how stupid. The PM will call her out.
 
2018-08-21 12:55:59 AM  

Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.


And what if it was worded better? What would you to do to help them pass admirably? These are people coming to you for assistance, after all.
 
2018-08-21 01:00:04 AM  

Alcaste: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

And what if it was worded better? What would you to do to help them pass admirably? These are people coming to you for assistance, after all.


I think there's some context missing. These places charge extremely high tuition to these students, and have a vested interested in them remaining in the system.

A friend of mine taught one semester at a similar place. He was pressured from administration to pass his failing students.

It's an open secret here among university/college instructors. My bigger shock was to hear it explicitly from admin during an interview.
 
2018-08-21 01:03:16 AM  

Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.


If you "teach economics" and don't see that large-scale immigration, especially when it comes to asylum programs, is good for Canada economically, I really hope you didn't get that job.

Immigration will help save the service economy, promote entrepreneurism, help expand our Universities, deepen our Professional-level human resource pool and increase our tax base.
 
2018-08-21 01:03:53 AM  
Ugh, it's just as dumb as down here. Are their illegals Americans? Or rather, under qualified Americans?

I think between my degrees and family connections I could migrate to Canada legitimately, but I have a big sunlight deficit in Dallas in February. And that's despite my genetic background coming from Scotland, Nova Scotia, and Poland. My goal is to spend winter far south of the equator.
 
2018-08-21 01:04:45 AM  

Msol: Alcaste: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

And what if it was worded better? What would you to do to help them pass admirably? These are people coming to you for assistance, after all.

I think there's some context missing. These places charge extremely high tuition to these students, and have a vested interested in them remaining in the system.

A friend of mine taught one semester at a similar place. He was pressured from administration to pass his failing students.

It's an open secret here among university/college instructors. My bigger shock was to hear it explicitly from admin during an interview.


To be fair, the system has a vested interest in passing everyone so that they feel less agitated towards their student loans. And passing 'them' would put a lot less pressure on administration.
 
2018-08-21 01:07:08 AM  

Msol: Alcaste: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

And what if it was worded better? What would you to do to help them pass admirably? These are people coming to you for assistance, after all.

I think there's some context missing. These places charge extremely high tuition to these students, and have a vested interested in them remaining in the system.

A friend of mine taught one semester at a similar place. He was pressured from administration to pass his failing students.

It's an open secret here among university/college instructors. My bigger shock was to hear it explicitly from admin during an interview.


Additional context: Canada loves taking advantage of foreigners/immigrants in a number of ways. we used to flat out have indentured servitude/slavery under the name "Temporary Foreign Worker Program". It was axed because, you know, it was literally slavery.

Also, the "irregular migrants" in Quebec were all fleeing from the US. Haitians had a special arrangement to stay in the US, but all of a sudden that was gone. So they came north. Other groups came before. Others will come later as Trump clusterfarks his way through the immigration system. It becomes complicated because "where to send them if/when we kick them out" is actually kind of a complicated question. And Christ, the US is running internment camps for babies. You can't throw anyone back to the US at this point.
 
2018-08-21 01:07:34 AM  

anustart: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

If you "teach economics" and don't see that large-scale immigration, especially when it comes to asylum programs, is good for Canada economically, I really hope you didn't get that job.

Immigration will help save the service economy, promote entrepreneurism, help expand our Universities, deepen our Professional-level human resource pool and increase our tax base.


Do you support the Temporary Foreign Worker program?
 
2018-08-21 01:08:36 AM  

Johnny_Canuck: I support Trudeau, I don't support the RCMP that grabbed and held the lady.

I don't like separatist or racism but I dislike police brutality more.

Unless she was attacking the PM "hands off" dude, free speech no matter how stupid. The PM will call her out.


What that might look like:
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2018-08-21 01:09:49 AM  

Msol: anustart: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

If you "teach economics" and don't see that large-scale immigration, especially when it comes to asylum programs, is good for Canada economically, I really hope you didn't get that job.

Immigration will help save the service economy, promote entrepreneurism, help expand our Universities, deepen our Professional-level human resource pool and increase our tax base.

Do you support the Temporary Foreign Worker program?


Oh that thing that was abolished, mentioned in the comment above yours
 
2018-08-21 01:12:37 AM  

Msol: anustart: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

If you "teach economics" and don't see that large-scale immigration, especially when it comes to asylum programs, is good for Canada economically, I really hope you didn't get that job.

Immigration will help save the service economy, promote entrepreneurism, help expand our Universities, deepen our Professional-level human resource pool and increase our tax base.

Do you support the Temporary Foreign Worker program?


To the extent that I wouldike to see it improved by granting PR status to people who successfully complete a 1 year TFW visa, yes.

I hire people on work permits all the time, particularly refugees. We don't do LMOs in my current company, because we haven't needed to, but I've done them in the past in fairly large numbers and sent recruiting teams to Jamaica and Poland.
 
2018-08-21 01:13:45 AM  

anustart: Msol: anustart: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

If you "teach economics" and don't see that large-scale immigration, especially when it comes to asylum programs, is good for Canada economically, I really hope you didn't get that job.

Immigration will help save the service economy, promote entrepreneurism, help expand our Universities, deepen our Professional-level human resource pool and increase our tax base.

Do you support the Temporary Foreign Worker program?

To the extent that I wouldike to see it improved by granting PR status to people who successfully complete a 1 year TFW visa, yes.

I hire people on work permits all the time, particularly refugees. We don't do LMOs in my current company, because we haven't needed to, but I've done them in the past in fairly large numbers and sent recruiting teams to Jamaica and Poland.


To clarify, I'm glad it was killed but would support it if it was done right.
 
2018-08-21 01:16:34 AM  

Alcaste: Msol: anustart: Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.

If you "teach economics" and don't see that large-scale immigration, especially when it comes to asylum programs, is good for Canada economically, I really hope you didn't get that job.

Immigration will help save the service economy, promote entrepreneurism, help expand our Universities, deepen our Professional-level human resource pool and increase our tax base.

Do you support the Temporary Foreign Worker program?

Oh that thing that was abolished, mentioned in the comment above yours


... but it wasn't.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-s​o​cial-development/services/foreign-work​ers.html

So many of my students come here with zero support from the schools that recruit them. I had one crying in my office about 2 weeks ago about how much she regrets coming here.

Apparently UBC does it right, but that's about it. It's a cash grab by most of the schools. 30 of my 35 students arrived within a week of the start of the summer semester. One even arrived 2 weeks in, it's been an insane year.
 
2018-08-21 01:19:21 AM  

Msol: ... but it wasn't.

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-so​cial-development/services/foreign-work​ers.html

So many of my students come here with zero support from the schools that recruit them. I had one crying in my office about 2 weeks ago about how much she regrets coming here.

Apparently UBC does it right, but that's about it. It's a cash grab by most of the schools. 30 of my 35 students arrived within a week of the start of the summer semester. One even arrived 2 weeks in, it's been an insane year.


That sucks. Do your best to help all of them. The system is awaful, especially with a PC government trying to screw things over in Ontario.
 
2018-08-21 01:20:35 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Johnny_Canuck: I support Trudeau, I don't support the RCMP that grabbed and held the lady.

I don't like separatist or racism but I dislike police brutality more.

Unless she was attacking the PM "hands off" dude, free speech no matter how stupid. The PM will call her out.

What that might look like:
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Ha ha right party, wrong PM.
 
2018-08-21 01:22:12 AM  

Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.


I'm a liberal but.........


*scratches off on bingo card*


/idiot
 
2018-08-21 01:23:18 AM  
I'm on the union exec at my main school (which is much better than the ones I draw my examples from) and so far our NDP government has been extremely quiet about all of this.

Our membership is complaining of significant workload issues related to this, and it's giving rise to populism in the halls.

Anyways, I'm coming across like a conservative in this thread, so I'll bow out. Apologies for the threadjacking.
 
2018-08-21 01:25:02 AM  

Msol: I'm on the union exec at my main school (which is much better than the ones I draw my examples from) and so far our NDP government has been extremely quiet about all of this.

Our membership is complaining of significant workload issues related to this, and it's giving rise to populism in the halls.

Anyways, I'm coming across like a conservative in this thread, so I'll bow out. Apologies for the threadjacking.


do you know how many "concern trolls" and rabblerousers love to use that whole "i'm a liberal but...(insert conservative gibberish here)"  ?
 
2018-08-21 01:29:01 AM  

meatofmystery: Msol: I'm on the union exec at my main school (which is much better than the ones I draw my examples from) and so far our NDP government has been extremely quiet about all of this.

Our membership is complaining of significant workload issues related to this, and it's giving rise to populism in the halls.

Anyways, I'm coming across like a conservative in this thread, so I'll bow out. Apologies for the threadjacking.

do you know how many "concern trolls" and rabblerousers love to use that whole "i'm a liberal but...(insert conservative gibberish here)"  ?


I do, which is why I need to bow out. I was part of Gordie Hogg's campaign team last year and we won our by-election by 5% over the Cons. They'd held that seat for 40 years until we took it from them. I just disagree with them on immigration, that's all.
 
2018-08-21 01:30:33 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Johnny_Canuck: I support Trudeau, I don't support the RCMP that grabbed and held the lady.

I don't like separatist or racism but I dislike police brutality more.

Unless she was attacking the PM "hands off" dude, free speech no matter how stupid. The PM will call her out.

What that might look like:
[img.fark.net image 479x368]


The old Shawinigan Handshake
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2018-08-21 01:38:01 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Johnny_Canuck: I support Trudeau, I don't support the RCMP that grabbed and held the lady.

I don't like separatist or racism but I dislike police brutality more.

Unless she was attacking the PM "hands off" dude, free speech no matter how stupid. The PM will call her out.

What that might look like:
[img.fark.net image 479x368]


And from the vault 3we have this gem.
https://youtu.be/c5Eb_yc-tkk
/youtube won't let me embedd it.
//sorry a-boot that
 
2018-08-21 01:43:50 AM  

Johnny_Canuck: I support Trudeau, I don't support the RCMP that grabbed and held the lady.

I don't like separatist or racism but I dislike police brutality more.

Unless she was attacking the PM "hands off" dude, free speech no matter how stupid. The PM will call her out.


If the province is being unduly burdened because more immigrants cross through there, allowed by national policy it's a legitimate question to be asked . He's a chicken shiat for taking a monetary problem and accusing her of racism.

Intellectual dishonesty - it's not just for the American left any more
 
2018-08-21 01:45:05 AM  
"asking him when the federal government would repay Quebec for costs it has incurred as a result of an influx of "illegal immigrants" coming over the Canada-U.S. border."

That's racism.? That's Intolerance?
Pretty weak, but what else would I expect from a Drama Teacher.

Liberals use the racism card any chance they get to shut down anyone they disagree with or make them uncomfortable.
Asking when the Federal Government will repay the costs when it's not the Provinces responsibility to deal with immigration is not racist. So unless she said something actually racist I'd rather our Prime Selfie STFU and GBTW.

These people can not claim asylum from the US, they have no grounds.

You're life is not in imminent danger in the US. (technically) or persecuted (also technically).  Once you escape the country your fleeing you have to claim asylum in the first safe country you enter. (America in this example)
If America says too damn bad GTFO you can't just say Fark it I'll just go further North till someone let's me stay and claim Asylum from.
It's not hard getting into Canada if you just follow the rules and don't Jump the line in front of all the others who are doing things they way it should be done.
 
2018-08-21 01:55:29 AM  

Msol: I'm on the union exec at my main school (which is much better than the ones I draw my examples from) and so far our NDP government has been extremely quiet about all of this.

Our membership is complaining of significant workload issues related to this, and it's giving rise to populism in the halls.

Anyways, I'm coming across like a conservative in this thread, so I'll bow out. Apologies for the threadjacking.


If you're a liberal, and there's no 'but...' then you're going to stand up against this.
 
2018-08-21 01:56:30 AM  

Kefka1911: Prime Selfie STFU and GBTW.


Save the anger for the people doing the damage.
 
2018-08-21 01:59:36 AM  
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/obscure?
 
2018-08-21 01:59:43 AM  
Liberal 101: Someone disagrees with you, shriek 'racist' at them.
 
2018-08-21 02:01:19 AM  

Alcaste: Msol: I'm on the union exec at my main school (which is much better than the ones I draw my examples from) and so far our NDP government has been extremely quiet about all of this.

Our membership is complaining of significant workload issues related to this, and it's giving rise to populism in the halls.

Anyways, I'm coming across like a conservative in this thread, so I'll bow out. Apologies for the threadjacking.

If you're a liberal, and there's no 'but...' then you're going to stand up against this.


It's actually why I got involved in the first place. Hell, my wife is a refugee - that's actually the one Fed Liberal immigration stance I've been 100% supportive of.

My #1 issue is housing affordability, so you can imagine how these two issues conflict.
 
2018-08-21 02:02:17 AM  

Msol: This will be *the* issue in 2019. I'm a Liberal supporter and even I'm getting fed up.

I interviewed at one of these two-bit transfer colleges a few weeks back for some extra work (living in the Vancouver area is expensive) and the administrator flat out stated that a number of their students don't intend to transfer to UBC or SFU, and simply are here for the two years necessary to get a Work Visa. To do this they need to maintain a D average at this college.

I teach economics, so a number of students underestimate the difficulty. And I quote:

"Many of our students aim for a D but don't quite get there, and they wind up failing the course. What would you do to help them get that D?"

This was asked of me in a very cheery tone. I was blown away.


Wow, that blows me away too-

Did the interviewer let on as to which part of the US most of these 'students' were immigrating from?    Were they mostly from the Northeast and the West Coast, or were they from all over?  Were any of them prominent actors/actresses or politicians who have vowed to move to Canada but faced roadblocks in immigrating to?

AFAYK, I'm a liberal leaning guy too, but the article was about illegal immigration into Canada...is that something that we are all just supposed to embrace these days, or what?
 
2018-08-21 02:17:48 AM  

MikeyFuccon: Why should Trudeau be sorry? It was a pretty obvious set-up.

And shame on Andrew Scheer for taking the side of some white-power witch whose only real goal was making Trudeau look bad and getting herself and her hate group on TV.


Cops grabbing an old woman for embarrassing a politician.

Yeah, that's a good look.

Canada run out of comedians to fine for tasteless jokes or something?
 
2018-08-21 02:18:51 AM  
Quebecers are born hand first, palm open and pointed upwards.
 
2018-08-21 02:38:40 AM  

Kefka1911: Liberals use the racism card any chance they get to shut down anyone they disagree with or make them uncomfortable.


You sound racist.

/NTTAWWT
//Err...
 
2018-08-21 02:42:37 AM  

NoahBuddy: Kefka1911: Liberals use the racism card any chance they get to shut down anyone they disagree with or make them uncomfortable.

You sound racist.

/NTTAWWT
//Err...


LOL...  yup a total racist who sponsored a Syrian Refugee who lives here in Muskoka on my property.

Seriously people.

The woman said NOTHING WRONG and liberals do scream RACIST NAZI as soon as their uncomfortable or losing an argument.
 
2018-08-21 02:52:57 AM  
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Git 'er.

Also, maybe call her "hysterical" for exercising her speech rights, such as they are in Canada:

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Because nothing says "you're legally obligated to be a woke citizen," quite like an old-timey sexist insult from a beer-gutted piece of shiat with a badge, manhandling an old woman.
 
2018-08-21 02:56:57 AM  

Kefka1911: Asking when the Federal Government will repay the costs when it's not the Provinces responsibility to deal with immigration


Quebec runs its own immigration program. The federal immigration program doesn't charge the provinces for services rendered bringing some very up-market & qualified immigrants who contribute to provincial economies. When you deal with flotsam theres always some jetsam to go with it. Quebec doesn't want to deal with anything they consider a federal problem or responsibility. It is ever thus.
 
2018-08-21 03:08:26 AM  

Farxist Marxist: Kefka1911: Asking when the Federal Government will repay the costs when it's not the Provinces responsibility to deal with immigration

Quebec runs its own immigration program. The federal immigration program doesn't charge the provinces for services rendered bringing some very up-market & qualified immigrants who contribute to provincial economies. When you deal with flotsam theres always some jetsam to go with it. Quebec doesn't want to deal with anything they consider a federal problem or responsibility. It is ever thus.


Interesting.

The Federal Government is supposed to be the only governing body able to mandate immigration.

Here is the eligibility requirements.

Eligibility:

A claim is not eligible if an individual

1. has already been granted refugee protection in Canada or another country;

2. has previously been refused refugee protection in Canada;

3. has come to Canada from/through a designated safe third country in which a claim for protection was sought;

4. has committed a crime against peace, war crime or crime against humanity, a serious non-political crime outside the country of refuge, or acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

All the individuals Quebec is talking about broke rule #3. From the federal Governments own Immigration Board.
 
2018-08-21 03:10:06 AM  
Ah the Nectarine - the shadily funded legitimate news arm of the super shady Ontario/Canada Proud Ballingal group.  You know, the guys with all the dark money who backed Doug Ford. They just HAPPEN to have the story, just HAPPEN to be amping up the rhetoric.

Jesus, fark the whole thing screams "set up."
 
2018-08-21 03:21:43 AM  

Kefka1911: The Federal Government is supposed to be the only governing body able to mandate immigration.


I was with the Department now called Global Affairs Canada for twenty years, spent almost all of that abroad. I wasn't an immigration officer, but issued many visas on their behalf. Quebec basically vets its own immigrants and tells C&I who to issue visas to. Most of their intake is from La Francaphonie, for obvious reasons. One of the incongruous issues is that once Quebec takes an immigrant, there's nothing stopping them from heading west to, well, just about anywhere they want. And vice-versa for regular immigrants who decide to set-up in Montreal, although that doesn't happen quite so often. For someone who speaks French and has a good story, obtaining entry to Quebec is regarded as a somewhat less rigorous method to get to Canada.
 
2018-08-21 03:33:52 AM  

Kefka1911: All the individuals Quebec is talking about broke rule #3. From the federal Governments own Immigration Board.


Yes, and it's the same issue the rest of the provinces are dealing with also. They enter at some of the "Sleepy Hollow" border crossing because if they arrive at the major ports/points of entry they can be turned back. At a small, mostly unserviced points of entry they claim refugee status and must be processed as such. You probably read all this in the media.

It will be interesting when refugee appeal boards start ruling in favor of some of these claimants based on the potential to be deported from the US back to their original country and justifiable fear of retribution, harm etc. It will change policy I'm sure - to what is unclear,
 
2018-08-21 03:38:23 AM  

towatchoverme: Ah the Nectarine - the shadily funded legitimate news arm of the super shady Ontario/Canada Proud Ballingal group.  You know, the guys with all the dark money who backed Doug Ford. They just HAPPEN to have the story, just HAPPEN to be amping up the rhetoric.

Jesus, fark the whole thing screams "set up."


So...those were crisis actors is what you're saying.

/or maybe you can tell because of the pixels. Seen some in your time?
 
2018-08-21 03:48:31 AM  

Farxist Marxist: Kefka1911:  It will change policy I'm sure - to what is unclear, and I meant to finish with

it may require changes to the UN Convention on Refugees, which is a tall order given just about every country with high numbers of "Convention Refugees" probably rue the day they ratified the convention. It's also very fair to say Canada has only a minor refugee issue. Lebanon has (I believe) several million to contend with. Life isn't very fair sometimes, and we have to keep in mind that life has dealt genuine refugees a particularly bad hand.
 
2018-08-21 04:37:20 AM  

Kefka1911: NoahBuddy: Kefka1911: Liberals use the racism card any chance they get to shut down anyone they disagree with or make them uncomfortable.

You sound racist.

/NTTAWWT
//Err...

LOL...  yup a total racist who sponsored a Syrian Refugee who lives here in Muskoka on my property.

Seriously people.

The woman said NOTHING WRONG and liberals do scream RACIST NAZI as soon as their uncomfortable or losing an argument.


I'm sorry.

You sound a RACIST NAZI.

Is that better?

/I sponsored 42,640 Libyan refugees and built a separate toilet in my house for each one
//On the Internet
///Not that I don't believe you're story
 
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