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2018-08-14 02:33:50 PM  
Why not? Seems more humane than what they were using before.
 
2018-08-14 02:38:01 PM  
I mean, I don't support capital punishment, but if you're gonna, you might as well make it as painless as possible.
 
2018-08-14 02:45:21 PM  
Not a bad way to go. I'm surprised they haven't gone to helium or nitrogen anoxia though. That is cheap simple and effective. Hemlock society endorsed too!
 
2018-08-14 03:13:53 PM  
I'm hoping they bring back the electric chair so that I can finally unload all these "Welcome to Ohm-aha" t-shirts.
 
2018-08-14 03:22:34 PM  
Wish they would execute that paywall with fentanyl.
 
2018-08-14 03:23:19 PM  
Honestly, if we're going to execute people, that's really not a bad way to go. I guess what I'm saying is:

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2018-08-14 03:23:43 PM  
It's nice to know that Conrad Murray is still employed.
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2018-08-14 03:24:29 PM  
Really glad Pete Ricketts finally got to kill someone.  He sure spent a shiat ton of money to make it happen.
 
2018-08-14 03:25:59 PM  

Cagey B: I'm hoping they bring back the electric chair so that I can finally unload all these "Welcome to Ohm-aha" t-shirts.



Bring back the electric chair, shove an ear of corn up the convict's ass, turn on the juice, and voila!  Popcorn!
 
2018-08-14 03:26:36 PM  
Can't we just build a robot that shoots people in the head?

Or, even cheaper, just tape a stick of dynamite to the condemned's head
 
2018-08-14 03:27:15 PM  
And nothing of value was lost?

\except for maybe the fentanyl.
 
2018-08-14 03:27:32 PM  
As long as it isn't something unduly nasty, like draw and quartering, I'm not particularly concerned with the method. Hanging, firing squad, whatever. Just get it done dispassionately and get it over with.

My main concern is whether we should be doing it at all. In a perfect world I'm not philosophically opposed to the death penalty for some of the most serious crimes. But in our world I think our justice system is far too flawed to be trusted with that responsibility.
 
2018-08-14 03:27:48 PM  
I guess they decided a pillow over the face wasn't a viable option.
 
2018-08-14 03:28:12 PM  
I am OK with a person executing themselves with fentanyl.  All drugs should be legal, free, and ultra pure.  Just no rescue.  If a person wants to suppository a kilo of fentanyl in their keister, the state should say "OK dude, you do you, here is a kilo of the purest shiat around, have fun putting it up your butt".  If a person wants to get high on jenkem, the state should say "do you want vegan or carnivorous animal jenkem preparation?  And how much?"  If a person wants to get blasted into another dimension by soaking in a sensory deprovation tank filled with ultra pure liquid acid, the state should comply.

The one thing is that we should spend zero dollars trying to bring back any of those people.  If they get sent to a higher dimension and can't get out, too bad.  If they die of fentanyl constipation, too bad.  If they get some sort of septic poisoning from vegan jenkem, too bad.
 
2018-08-14 03:28:51 PM  

The_Sponge: Cagey B: I'm hoping they bring back the electric chair so that I can finally unload all these "Welcome to Ohm-aha" t-shirts.


Bring back the electric chair, shove an ear of corn up the convict's ass, turn on the juice, and voila!  Popcorn!


I'm sure there are folks who like chocolate nutty popcorn but I will have to pass.
 
2018-08-14 03:28:55 PM  
Contrabulous Flabtraption: Can't we just build a robot that shoots people in the head?


So how long have you worked at Cyberdyne?
 
2018-08-14 03:30:39 PM  
Yeah, I had a hard time believing that states were having trouble finding drugs for executions when all they had to do was get some opioids from Purdue Pharma.
 
2018-08-14 03:31:45 PM  
Prisoners have it so good these days. You get to lay on a padded table and just go to sleep. Back in my day they put you in a cage with crazed starving ferrets, and they ate you to death. And it took awhile, because they only used like 4 of them. You'd have to wait until they got full, and then took a nap for a while before they resumed eating you. And the guards made you stand the entire time. If you sat down, they would beat you with clubs through the bars. And dadgummit, that's how we liked it.
 
2018-08-14 03:33:12 PM  
A fentanyl death carried out by the State is the best kind of fentanyl death.

/that's actually true, since they'll be sure to knock you out proper before you get the lethal dose.
 
2018-08-14 03:33:18 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Or, even cheaper, just tape a stick of dynamite to the condemned's head


And make the kids from juvie hall perform the clean up.
 
2018-08-14 03:33:23 PM  
I have trouble seeing a down side here. Why were they so resistant to this beforehand?
 
2018-08-14 03:34:00 PM  
"...two pharmaceutical companies tried to block the execution in federal court, claiming their reputations would suffer if the killing proceeded."

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2018-08-14 03:35:12 PM  
It's so heart warming to see how much people care about finding a nicer way to execute the man who planned and carried out two murders/robberies including one cab driver who was just driving the cab as a side job to help support his ten kids/step kids.  Why aren't we nicer to murders like that?

Just a FYI, the correct winning argument against the death penalty is we might execute innocent people.  The "you guys are being mean to cold blooded murderers" isn't really hitting home.
 
2018-08-14 03:35:22 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Or, even cheaper, just tape a stick of dynamite to the condemned's head

And make the kids from juvie hall perform the clean up.


Do you want serial killers in 15 years or less? Because that's how you get serial killers in 15 years or less.
 
2018-08-14 03:35:49 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: I am OK with a person executing themselves with fentanyl.  All drugs should be legal, free, and ultra pure.  Just no rescue.  If a person wants to suppository a kilo of fentanyl in their keister, the state should say "OK dude, you do you, here is a kilo of the purest shiat around, have fun putting it up your butt".  If a person wants to get high on jenkem, the state should say "do you want vegan or carnivorous animal jenkem preparation?  And how much?"  If a person wants to get blasted into another dimension by soaking in a sensory deprovation tank filled with ultra pure liquid acid, the state should comply.

The one thing is that we should spend zero dollars trying to bring back any of those people.  If they get sent to a higher dimension and can't get out, too bad.  If they die of fentanyl constipation, too bad.  If they get some sort of septic poisoning from vegan jenkem, too bad.


The 'all drugs should be free' idea appealed to me too, until the recent opioid crisis, which was effectively exactly that. And yes, many of the problems come from when they can't get opioids free anymore, but there were a lot of pretty negative effects before that. Some drugs are too addictive, and the realities of the market always make over-selling the drugs too attractive, for me to hold onto full legalization of everything.
 
2018-08-14 03:36:17 PM  

MythDragon: Prisoners have it so good these days. You get to lay on a padded table and just go to sleep. Back in my day they put you in a cage with crazed starving ferrets, and they ate you to death. And it took awhile, because they only used like 4 of them. You'd have to wait until they got full, and then took a nap for a while before they resumed eating you. And the guards made you stand the entire time. If you sat down, they would beat you with clubs through the bars. And dadgummit, that's how we liked it.


You had 4 ferrets? Lucky! We only had three blind mice.
 
2018-08-14 03:36:17 PM  
They should be executed the same way they killed their victims.
 
2018-08-14 03:36:41 PM  
The_Sponge:

Cagey B: I'm hoping they bring back the electric chair so that I can finally unload all these "Welcome to Ohm-aha" t-shirts.

Bring back the electric chair, shove an ear of corn up the convict's ass, turn on the juice, and voila!  Popcorn! Poopcorn!


FTFY
 
2018-08-14 03:38:54 PM  

mongbiohazard: As long as it isn't something unduly nasty, like draw and quartering, I'm not particularly concerned with the method. Hanging, firing squad, whatever. Just get it done dispassionately and get it over with.

My main concern is whether we should be doing it at all. In a perfect world I'm not philosophically opposed to the death penalty for some of the most serious crimes. But in our world I think our justice system is far too flawed to be trusted with that responsibility.


I had a law school friend who was fairly right-wing and firmly in favor of capital punishment--until she had to do a research project on how the penalty is implemented in the U.S., and found indisputably that it is vastly disproportionately imposed on black people and poor people.  She was particularly shocked by the way black people get executed for killing white people, but not vice versa.
 
2018-08-14 03:40:24 PM  

lennavan: It's so heart warming to see how much people care about finding a nicer way to execute the man who planned and carried out two murders/robberies including one cab driver who was just driving the cab as a side job to help support his ten kids/step kids.  Why aren't we nicer to murders like that?

Just a FYI, the correct winning argument against the death penalty is we might execute innocent people.  The "you guys are being mean to cold blooded murderers" isn't really hitting home.


I don't base my opinion on the death penalty on what kind of person the defendant is.  I base it on what kind of person I am.
 
2018-08-14 03:41:24 PM  

Raoul Eaton: mongbiohazard: As long as it isn't something unduly nasty, like draw and quartering, I'm not particularly concerned with the method. Hanging, firing squad, whatever. Just get it done dispassionately and get it over with.

My main concern is whether we should be doing it at all. In a perfect world I'm not philosophically opposed to the death penalty for some of the most serious crimes. But in our world I think our justice system is far too flawed to be trusted with that responsibility.

I had a law school friend who was fairly right-wing and firmly in favor of capital punishment--until she had to do a research project on how the penalty is implemented in the U.S., and found indisputably that it is vastly disproportionately imposed on black people and poor people.  She was particularly shocked by the way black people get executed for killing white people, but not vice versa.


Education. It will open your eyes.

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2018-08-14 03:42:50 PM  
was this the crazy-eyed guy featured on Vice recently?

dude was in prison but still seemed on some kinda upper
 
2018-08-14 03:46:14 PM  
That's embarrassing.  Getting killed by Nebraska.
 
2018-08-14 03:46:55 PM  

Raoul Eaton: mongbiohazard: As long as it isn't something unduly nasty, like draw and quartering, I'm not particularly concerned with the method. Hanging, firing squad, whatever. Just get it done dispassionately and get it over with.

My main concern is whether we should be doing it at all. In a perfect world I'm not philosophically opposed to the death penalty for some of the most serious crimes. But in our world I think our justice system is far too flawed to be trusted with that responsibility.

I had a law school friend who was fairly right-wing and firmly in favor of capital punishment--until she had to do a research project on how the penalty is implemented in the U.S., and found indisputably that it is vastly disproportionately imposed on black people and poor people.  She was particularly shocked by the way black people get executed for killing white people, but not vice versa.


I am pretty against the death penalty; largely due to the inaccuracy of our legal system.

Advocate: "Hey, we ran the DNA on the murder weapon that put Inmate XYZ on death row twenty years ago...turns out, he wasn't the murderer."
DA: "well, he was still found guilty in a court of law"
*flips the switch*
Gov: "We have never applied the death penalty to an innocent man"

that and I kind of like the idea of the victims being the only ones allowed to execute; not the state.
 
2018-08-14 03:47:24 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: I am OK with a person executing themselves with fentanyl.  All drugs should be legal, free, and ultra pure.  Just no rescue.  If a person wants to suppository a kilo of fentanyl in their keister, the state should say "OK dude, you do you, here is a kilo of the purest shiat around, have fun putting it up your butt".  If a person wants to get high on jenkem, the state should say "do you want vegan or carnivorous animal jenkem preparation?  And how much?"  If a person wants to get blasted into another dimension by soaking in a sensory deprovation tank filled with ultra pure liquid acid, the state should comply.

The one thing is that we should spend zero dollars trying to bring back any of those people.  If they get sent to a higher dimension and can't get out, too bad.  If they die of fentanyl constipation, too bad.  If they get some sort of septic poisoning from vegan jenkem, too bad.


And who is gonna pay for all these drugs? The taxpayers? I'm not paying for an entire kilo of butt fentanyl. You can't reuse all that now. It's got butt all over it. Most of it just goes to waste. You don't need a kilo when a couple of micrograms up the ass will take care of you just the same. You have to be smart about these things.
 
2018-08-14 03:49:07 PM  
A bullet or even a rope work effectively and reliably. Push a button or pull a Iever and the person is dead. I don't understand the handwringing or complexity over using drugs
 
2018-08-14 03:49:08 PM  

crispy pizza: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Or, even cheaper, just tape a stick of dynamite to the condemned's head

And make the kids from juvie hall perform the clean up.

Do you want serial killers in 15 years or less? Because that's how you get serial killers in 15 years or less.


No?

/yes, yes I do...
 
2018-08-14 03:51:47 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Or, even cheaper, just tape a stick of dynamite to the condemned's head


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2018-08-14 03:52:45 PM  
Soooo.....they were out of HDPE bags?
 
2018-08-14 03:53:01 PM  

Private_Citizen: Raoul Eaton: mongbiohazard: As long as it isn't something unduly nasty, like draw and quartering, I'm not particularly concerned with the method. Hanging, firing squad, whatever. Just get it done dispassionately and get it over with.

My main concern is whether we should be doing it at all. In a perfect world I'm not philosophically opposed to the death penalty for some of the most serious crimes. But in our world I think our justice system is far too flawed to be trusted with that responsibility.

I had a law school friend who was fairly right-wing and firmly in favor of capital punishment--until she had to do a research project on how the penalty is implemented in the U.S., and found indisputably that it is vastly disproportionately imposed on black people and poor people.  She was particularly shocked by the way black people get executed for killing white people, but not vice versa.

Education. It will open your eyes.

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Always?  Because here is a reality:

Seattle is a VERY BLUE city in a blue state, and the city has turned into a shiat hole.....rampant drug use and an exploding homeless population.  Thanks to their policies, we have homeless people coming in from out of state.
 
2018-08-14 03:53:12 PM  
Oh, great. Free fentanyl from the state. You know where this is gonna go, don't you?
 
2018-08-14 03:53:38 PM  

baronbloodbath: The_Sponge:

Cagey B: I'm hoping they bring back the electric chair so that I can finally unload all these "Welcome to Ohm-aha" t-shirts.

Bring back the electric chair, shove an ear of corn up the convict's ass, turn on the juice, and voila!  Popcorn! Poopcorn!

FTFY



*Applause*
 
2018-08-14 03:55:00 PM  
Why did he get the death penalty?  Did he tell that joke about how the "N" on Nebraska's football helmets stands for "Knowledge"?
 
2018-08-14 03:55:43 PM  

The_Sponge: Cagey B: I'm hoping they bring back the electric chair so that I can finally unload all these "Welcome to Ohm-aha" t-shirts.


Bring back the electric chair, shove an ear of corn up the convict's ass, turn on the juice, and voila!  Popcorn!


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2018-08-14 03:57:49 PM  
Let me get this strait. Pharmaceutical companies that encouraged doctors to over-prescribe opiods causing the opiod epidemic which kills thousands of people have a problem with their drugs being used to execute murderers.
 
2018-08-14 03:59:45 PM  

Teaser: It's nice to know that Conrad Murray is still employed.
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Pretty sure his method was Propofol - or as Mikey called it "Milk"

Fentanyl was Prince's undoing  (and Tom Petty)
 
2018-08-14 04:04:39 PM  

jimmyjackfunk: chocolate nutty popcorn


Is the name of my Morris Day and the Time cover band
 
2018-08-14 04:05:51 PM  
Two weeks back, I was in the ER, and there was an older family in there, yelling, the nurse says they were all whacked out on Ketamine, they get that a lot. I know Fentanyl is worse, I just don't even think of getting messed up/killed like that.
 
2018-08-14 04:06:30 PM  

The_Sponge: Private_Citizen: Raoul Eaton: mongbiohazard: As long as it isn't something unduly nasty, like draw and quartering, I'm not particularly concerned with the method. Hanging, firing squad, whatever. Just get it done dispassionately and get it over with.

My main concern is whether we should be doing it at all. In a perfect world I'm not philosophically opposed to the death penalty for some of the most serious crimes. But in our world I think our justice system is far too flawed to be trusted with that responsibility.

I had a law school friend who was fairly right-wing and firmly in favor of capital punishment--until she had to do a research project on how the penalty is implemented in the U.S., and found indisputably that it is vastly disproportionately imposed on black people and poor people.  She was particularly shocked by the way black people get executed for killing white people, but not vice versa.

Education. It will open your eyes.

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Always?  Because here is a reality:

Seattle is a VERY BLUE city in a blue state, and the city has turned into a shiat hole.....rampant drug use and an exploding homeless population.  Thanks to their policies, we have homeless people coming in from out of state.


Please go take your threadjacking somewhere else.
I mean, I get the point that Seattle is such a shiathole that tens of thousands of people have moved here for good jobs in the past few years, but . . . what exactly is your point?  If you want to live someplace more right wing, knock yourself out.
 
2018-08-14 04:07:25 PM  

Subtonic: I have trouble seeing a down side here. Why were they so resistant to this beforehand?


Because the method of execution was completely untested, they could not be certain that it would be effective and not cruel and unusual punishment, because the state resorted to lying in order to obtain the drugs used in the new protocol, because Scott R. Frakes the Director of the Department of Corrections and the Governor had conspired to violate US drug laws in order to obtain the drugs needed for the previous protocol and had wasted $54k in tax dollars on a black marketer when the DEA and FDA seized and destroyed the shipment and because the Governor and the Nebraska GOP eliminated all good government transparency laws dealing with the subject in order to satisfy their execution hard-ons, for starters.
 
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