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2018-08-10 03:59:55 PM  
I heard him say it should end on September 11.
 
2018-08-10 04:54:45 PM  
Only the best and brightest lawyers.
 
2018-08-10 04:56:50 PM  

foo monkey: I heard him say it should end on September 11.


Nein!
 
2018-08-10 05:15:52 PM  

foo monkey: I heard him say it should end on September 11.


He'll forget.
 
2018-08-10 05:31:01 PM  
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Yes, it's the Onion, but you had to double check, didn't you!
 
2018-08-10 05:31:10 PM  
Didn't ol' Rudy say he'd have this whole thing sorted out in a couple weeks back when he was first brought on?
 
2018-08-10 05:31:54 PM  
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2018-08-10 05:31:55 PM  
Does this guy do kids' parties?
 
2018-08-10 05:32:02 PM  
Would him testifying before a grand jury indicate that more charges are likely to be coming down?

Not too familiar with grand juries, but usually I hear about them in reference to issuing (or not issuing) indictments.
 
2018-08-10 05:34:17 PM  
Rudy, you can demand that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning, but it will. The Mueller investigation is outside of your control.
 
2018-08-10 05:34:24 PM  
No, no, dig UP stupid!

/The great gaslight continues
 
2018-08-10 05:35:53 PM  

dywed88: Would him testifying before a grand jury indicate that more charges are likely to be coming down?

Not too familiar with grand juries, but usually I hear about them in reference to issuing (or not issuing) indictments.


As I understand it, the grand jury convenes to decide to press charges against people.

So yeah, it's a pretty good indication that things are far from over.
 
2018-08-10 05:36:05 PM  
I think we're not even halfway through this investigation.
 
2018-08-10 05:37:25 PM  

Arachnophobe: Didn't ol' Rudy say he'd have this whole thing sorted out in a couple weeks back when he was first brought on?


Yeah, just imagine how bad it would be had he not sorted it.
 
2018-08-10 05:37:35 PM  

Weatherkiss: Rudy, you can demand that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning, but it will. The Mueller investigation is outside of your control.


Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.
 
2018-08-10 05:39:07 PM  
I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?
 
2018-08-10 05:40:42 PM  

palelizard: Weatherkiss: Rudy, you can demand that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning, but it will. The Mueller investigation is outside of your control.

Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.


Canute.

Exactly what I was thinking.
 
2018-08-10 05:41:23 PM  

palelizard: Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.


There was Xerxes who ordered the Hellespont (one of the Turkish straits) to be lashed in punishment for destroying his bridge. He sent men to punish the ocean.

Then there was Caligula who declared war on Poseidon and ordered his men to stab the ocean.

Then there was Kim Jong-Un who shot rockets into the ocean.

Giuliani is just as insane as them.
 
2018-08-10 05:42:38 PM  
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60 days before the election is exactly 9/7/2018. That said, it is a guideline not a rule, it seems immaterial if the target of the action is not on the ballot, the FBI reopening the case against Hillary rather than wait until after the election seemed to fly in the face of this rule*, oh and the whole idea isn't that an investigation must be closed, just that they shouldn't make any new announcements or new arrests in the 60 days leading up to election day.

* - And according to multiple reports the reason they broke the custom was Guiliani's friends in the New York Field Office threatening to reveal the existence of new evidence and portray the failure to investigate it before the election as a cover-up by FBI/DOJ/Obama/Clinton.
 
2018-08-10 05:43:08 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?


He's just saying shiat. Everything he can spray. When Mueller eventually does what he says, he'll claim victory even as the cuffs go on for obstruction.
 
2018-08-10 05:44:26 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?


He's putting pressure on Mueller's lungs by making him laugh really hard
 
2018-08-10 05:46:41 PM  

foo monkey: I heard him say it should end on September 11.


I don't want to smart or funny you right now because you are at 9 and 11.
 
2018-08-10 05:46:45 PM  
Rudy needs to realise he is just a sycophant lap dog for Trump and has no real authority other then wasting air
 
2018-08-10 05:46:53 PM  

FrancoFile: palelizard: Weatherkiss: Rudy, you can demand that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning, but it will. The Mueller investigation is outside of your control.

Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.

Canute.

Exactly what I was thinking.


Yeah, that guy. Thanks.
 
2018-08-10 05:47:34 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?


He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.
 
2018-08-10 05:47:37 PM  
Randy Credico? Really? Hmmmm
 
2018-08-10 05:48:14 PM  
Here's what I find fascinating about the GOP response to the Mueller investigation:

They think it should have a time table under which it ends.

They don't seem to realize that investigations end when the investigators stop finding evidence of criminal behavior.

It wouldn't surprise me all that much if the Mueller investigation ends up longer than Trump is President.
 
2018-08-10 05:49:01 PM  

Weatherkiss: palelizard: Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.

There was Xerxes who ordered the Hellespont (one of the Turkish straits) to be lashed in punishment for destroying his bridge. He sent men to punish the ocean.

Then there was Caligula who declared war on Poseidon and ordered his men to stab the ocean.

Then there was Kim Jong-Un who shot rockets into the ocean.

Giuliani is just as insane as them.


Trump is. Giuliani may just be dumb. Of course, this could always be a Kauffman-esque piece of revenge for Sessions being AG. But that's a lot of credit when there's no evidence for it.
 
2018-08-10 05:49:18 PM  
I like all of this "Robert Meuller needs to end the investigation by "X" day.", followed immediately by excuses for why they are delaying having Trump sit down with Robert Farking Meuller. If your boy would just quit delaying, Bob would be able to do his farking job.
 
2018-08-10 05:49:59 PM  

ox45tallboy: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.


Similar to Trump thinking the crap that worked for him in business works when negotiating with other countries or crap that worked for him in civil lawsuits works in an investigation like this.

One trick dotard
 
2018-08-10 05:50:55 PM  

palelizard: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's just saying shiat. Everything he can spray. When Mueller eventually does what he says, he'll claim victory even as the cuffs go on for obstruction.


I know. LOL and (screaming internally)
 
2018-08-10 05:52:28 PM  

ox45tallboy: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.


LOL, Rudy really seems determined to shiat all over whatever is left of his "legacy" in both law and politics. He's yelling at clouds now. Can screaming at people on the street be far behind?
 
2018-08-10 05:52:31 PM  

ox45tallboy: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.


I'm imagining it now-"Oh shiat, the defense said we only have a week to wrap up our investigation and that guy has an actual law-talking degree! Let's do what he says so we don't look stupid!"
 
2018-08-10 05:52:32 PM  
Giuliani, a crazy moron, says crazy, moronic things.
News at 11.
 
2018-08-10 05:55:33 PM  

Neeek: Here's what I find fascinating about the GOP response to the Mueller investigation:

They think it should have a time table under which it ends.

They don't seem to realize that investigations end when the investigators stop finding evidence of criminal behavior.

It wouldn't surprise me all that much if the Mueller investigation ends up longer than Trump is President.


It doesn't help them that they keep creating things to investigate.
 
2018-08-10 05:55:49 PM  
Rudy is showing the same late stage syphilitic dementia trump has. I wonder who infected who?
 
2018-08-10 05:57:16 PM  
Rudy married his cousin. Anything that lisping chunderload says is predicated by incest. No wonder Trump hired him.
 
2018-08-10 05:57:25 PM  

ox45tallboy: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.


I'm more inclined to believe he's taking the crap that didn't work on him and trying it anyway because it'll work on someone else.  I thin he honestly believes there's no one as smart as Rudy 9iu11iani.
 
2018-08-10 05:57:32 PM  

palelizard: Weatherkiss: Rudy, you can demand that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning, but it will. The Mueller investigation is outside of your control.

Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.


More than a few rulers have legends about things like that.

Xerxes dropping shackles into the sea and whipping it after it destroyed his bridge and Caligula having his army collect seashells and declare victory over Oceanus (the god of the Ocean) when his troops refused to cross the English Channel.

The Cnut story is actually the opposite in that he was supposed to have went and commanded the tide not to flow to demonstrate that he was mortal and the elements did not obey him.

/all of these stories may be myths, but the rules involved are factual
 
2018-08-10 06:01:10 PM  
Credico, a comedian and radio show host,

I've never heard of this guy, but past experience tells me that if he's a conservative radio host and he gives Mueller the answer "comedian" to the question "What is your job?", then he'll be under arrest for perjury so fast it'll be funny.
 
2018-08-10 06:01:32 PM  
Roger Stone claimed Credico was his back channel to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange during the 2016 campaign.

Stolar said it's unclear exactly what Mueller's team wants to question Credico about.

"My speculation is that they probably want to talk to him about Roger Stone and Julian Assange," Stolar said.


Ya think?
 
2018-08-10 06:01:33 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: ox45tallboy: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.

LOL, Rudy really seems determined to shiat all over whatever is left of his "legacy" in both law and politics. He's yelling at clouds now. Can screaming at people on the street be far behind?


I think he caught syphilis from Spanky during the campaign and now it's eating his brain.
 
2018-08-10 06:02:48 PM  

Weatherkiss: palelizard: Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.

There was Xerxes who ordered the Hellespont (one of the Turkish straits) to be lashed in punishment for destroying his bridge. He sent men to punish the ocean.

Then there was Caligula who declared war on Poseidon and ordered his men to stab the ocean.

Then there was Kim Jong-Un who shot rockets into the ocean.

Giuliani is just as insane as them.


On Caligula, it would be Oceanus.

Poseidon was the Greek counterpart to the Roman Neptune as the god of the Mediterranean and bodies of fresh waters. The oceans, including the English Channel, would be Oceanus.

Part of the reason for the event was that Romans were much more afraid of the Titan Oceanus than the God Neptune, Neptune was dangerous but familar with known tributes to minimize the risk. Oceanus was a whole other ball game.
 
2018-08-10 06:03:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: ox45tallboy: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.

I'm more inclined to believe he's taking the crap that didn't work on him and trying it anyway because it'll work on someone else.  I thin he honestly believes there's no one as smart as Rudy 9iu11iani.


Okay, maybe it was Dunning-Kruger he caught from Spanky, not syphilis.
 
2018-08-10 06:03:47 PM  

palelizard: Weatherkiss: Rudy, you can demand that the sun doesn't rise tomorrow morning, but it will. The Mueller investigation is outside of your control.

Who was the mythical king who went down to the ocean and yelled at the tide? Giuliani's the version of that guy who thinks it will work.


Canute was showing his courtiers the limits of his power. Rudy is a squid shiatting out ink to distract and disguise.
 
2018-08-10 06:05:52 PM  

Ball Peen Hammer Laxative: Rudy married his cousin. Anything that lisping chunderload says is predicated by incest. No wonder Trump hired him.


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2018-08-10 06:10:17 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: ox45tallboy: Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?

He's been a prosecutor for almost his whole legal career, so he's taking the crap that worked on him when defense attorneys tried it and thinks it will work on Mueller.

I'm more inclined to believe he's taking the crap that didn't work on him and trying it anyway because it'll work on someone else.  I thin he honestly believes there's no one as smart as Rudy 9iu11iani.


Then again, maybe he thinks he's got something to offer the prosecutors in exchange for shutting down the investigation, like when he was investigating Trump and suddenly Trump pulled out all the stops to support him in his run for mayor.
 
2018-08-10 06:14:13 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: I've never actually looked this up, but I have to wonder why in the fark Rudy 9/11 thinks he should have any say whatsoever into how long Mueller's investigation takes or when it ends. Why the fark does he keep saying that? Does he think he's putting some sort of pressure on Mueller?


The primary reason why Rudy is pulling this shiat is because it's how you encumber someone by getting them into a cycle of constantly responding to them.

If Mueller says "No, this is not going to end on <date>.", Rudy goes out to hammer on why not or demands a different date. The second you respond to Rudy, he gets a foothold to try and push you around and every response you make to them is a potential forest of possible bullshiat.
 
2018-08-10 06:16:42 PM  
Why is anyone even listening to anything these clowns say? They have zero credibility. Zilch. Zip. It'd be just as productive listening to wind rustling through trees, or hearing penguins fart.
 
2018-08-10 06:18:45 PM  

NateAsbestos: dywed88: Would him testifying before a grand jury indicate that more charges are likely to be coming down?

Not too familiar with grand juries, but usually I hear about them in reference to issuing (or not issuing) indictments.

As I understand it, the grand jury convenes to decide to press charges against people.

So yeah, it's a pretty good indication that things are far from over.


A Grand Jury does several things. Usually the primary thing it does is issue indictments. They do this by answering two questions 1. Was a crime committed? 2.Could this person have done it? Not did the person do it, but is it reasonable to suspect this person, is there evidence pointing to this person?

When the D.A. asks the Grand Jury for an indictment, she only presents enough evidence to get the indictment. It's unlikely to be all of the evidence because it's a waste of everyone's time to present more evidence than is necessary for an indictment. Those cases usually move through the Grand Jury pretty quickly, even a complicated case will only take a few hours, because the D. A. is only presenting a small percentage of the evidence.

A Grand Jury can also conduct investigations and issue subpeonas in conjunction with the investigation. This is what makes Grand Jurys powerful and beloved by prosecutors.

This doesn't mean the members of the jury are out collecting clues. The D. A. leads the investigation and gives the Grand Jury names of people that he wants questioned.

So let's say a couple of prisoner's escaped from the cells at the courthouse and it seems likely that they had help from someone who works there. So the D. A. tells the Jurors that they're investigating the escape. He says "there were 5 prisoners in the cell, 2 escaped. We want to question the other 3, here are their names, please subpeona them."

Then he steps out of the room, the members of the Grand Jury deliberate and vote (usually just needs a simple majority) on whether or not to subpeona the three prisoners. In our scenario, the GJ issues the subpeonas.

So each of the prisoners is brought in to testify. The D. A. asks all of his questions, leading the witness through their testimony. When he's done, the members of the Jury can ask whatever they like. If the witness refuses to answer, he can be held in contempt.

And so on. If all goes as planned, the investigation leads to suspects and the D. A. asks the Grand Jury for indictments.

Indictments can be issued during an investigation and kept secret while the investigation continues.

tl;dr: the Grand Jury is still investigating, may have issued indictments that are not yet public, and will likely be issuing more indictments.

fun fact: when I was on a Grand Jury (in Maryland), we also had to inspect the state prison system. So a minimum number of us (I think it was three) had to visit each state prison and write a report with recommendations. Prisons don't give public tours, so it was something that not many people get to do. We had the warden and guard shift supervisors take us through the whole prison. We could request to go anywhere and could talk to/question prisoners at any time. We talked to the people who worked in each department and could ask them whatever questions we wanted.
 
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